By David Futrelle
If you’re wondering whether Godwin’s Law still has a role to play in a world that’s once again filled with actual Nazis, the answer is yes, because how else are we going to deal with the so-called involuntary celibates on the Incels.is forums who are currently comparing their lack of a sex life to the literal Holocaust, and concluding that what they’re dealing with is somehow worse.
A week ago, one regular Incels.is commenter called lifeisbullshit95 dropped this alleged truth bomb on his incel colleagues:
![[It's Over] Social media and dating apps have killed more men than both world war combined](https://i1.wp.com/www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Captureyg9hu08ji-.png?fit=600%2C384)
His message was somehow even more inflammatory than his headline, an all-caps wall-of-text rant, sans line breaks and even punctuation, declaring that all but the handsomest of men are suffering a “NEW HOLOCAUST” because of Facebook and Tinder.
“THIS IS THE NEW HOLOCAUST,” he began.
HITLER TARGETED THE JEWS TINDER AND SOCIAL MEDIA HAVE TARGETED SUB8 MEN WE’RE DYING A PAINFUL SEXLESS LIFE FULL OF SUFFERING AND DEPRESSION
Huh. Quick survey: Raise your hand if you’re a SUB8 MAN and you’ve had sex. Hell, raise your hand if you’re SUB8 and still alive, despite all the Holocausting from Tinder and Facebook.
Oh, but apparently you don’t have to be physically dead to count as a dude killed by social media.
HOW MANY LIFE TINDER,INSTAGRAM,FACEBOOK ECC HAVE CLAIMED YET? LIVING A SEXLESS LIFE ISN’T LIVING
Raise your hand if you’re not having sex at the moment but are somehow still living a life worth living.
ESPECIALLY AS MAN THEY DEFINITELY CLAIM MY LIFE AND THE SADDEST THING IS THAT NOBODY IS DOING ANYTHING WE’RE LEFT GETTING MURDERED
I can’t help but think of poor, rollerskating Terry on Reno 911.
Of course, Reno 911 was a comedy, and lifeisbullshit95, who has posted more than 700 decidedly non-humorous comments to Incels.is forums, isn’t kidding.
Like many incels lifeisbullshit95 is convinced that social media makes women too stuck up to even consider having sex with any but the most Chadly of men. This, as it turns out, is a widespread belief in the Manosphere, promoted by everyone from MRA douchebag Paul Elam to PUA douchebags like Roosh V to the denizens of MGTOWforums,,com. As these misogynistic men see it, women on dating sites and social media get so much flattery from thirsty men that they come to see themselves as better than the “looksmatched” men they should be dating. (Incels don’t really seem to understand how many of the “flattering” messages that women get online are literal dick pics or otherwise creepy as fuck.)
NOBODY FIGHT SOCIAL MEDIA AND THE DATING APPS THAT HAS GIVEN SO MUCH POWER TO WOMEN EVEN TALKING ABOUT THIS TOPIC IS TABOO
And so somehow we’re back in 1930s Germany, but this time women are Hitler.
HITLER CAME TO POWER BECAUSE THE GERMANS WERE AN- GRY AND WANTED A REVOLUTION WOMEN CAME TO POWER BECAUSE THEY FELT ANGRY ABOUT NOT HAVING EQUAL RIGHTS AND WANTED A REVOLUTION IT’S ALL SO SIMILAR
And now these Hitler-women are using dating apps to sex genocide all but the top 20% of men.
BOTH HITLER AND THE DATING APPS HAD AS A GOAL TO WEED OUT FROM EXISTANCE THE INFERIOR MEN
You may wonder how exactly not getting matches on Tinder is similar to being murdered in a death camp. Lifeisbullshit95 has this, er, answer:
WHAT’S THE DIFFERENCE? DYING IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER IS STILL DYING WE’RE THE VICTIMS OF THE NEW HOLOCAUST MY FRIENDS.
Okey dokey then.
You may wonder if any of the other incels stopped for a moment and told lifeisbullshit95 that he was completely full of shit. The answer, of course, is no.
“my face is rotting each day and female hypergamy is only getting potentialized with dating apps,” wrote someone calling himself JeffGoldblumInTheFly, and perhaps taking his handle a little too seriously, “its fucking over.”
“Dating apps and social media not only killed men but it make us suffer,” declared someone called Cuyen.
JeffGoldblum and Cuyen have, together, posted more than 20,000 messages on Incels.is, so I’m pretty sure they’re not drive-by trolls.
And even if JeffGoldblumInTheFly is joking about his face rotting away like, well, Jeff Goldblum’s face in “The Fly,” incels do believe that as each day passes they become ever less likely to ever validate their lives by having sex with a woman. More importantly, his comment here serves to offer its own sort of validation — of lifeisbullshit95’s hyperbolic, hateful rhetoric blaming women for essentially every problem in men’s lives.
Social media and dating apps don’t kill, but depression does, and sites like Incels.is add to the problem by steering young, desperate men away from real help and into a hateful, self-destructive fantasy world. That’s the real danger here.
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Wouldn’t dating apps also make men “super duper picky” following that same logic? Afterall, they now have a way to get into contact with way more “Stacy” then their ancestor who were stuck in villages and town, pinning after the same 20 or so young, unmarried women. Plus, with the rise of fashion magasine and porn, the idea that women need to look ridiculously pretty to be considered attractive should gain strength. The only positive thing about incels in general is that they are about as stupid as they are hateful. If they were smarter, they would be an even greater menace.
(hand shoots up)
Yeah, I haven’t done it in YEARS. Still living, and still think life is worthwhile. Wouldn’t mine having someone to do it with, but yeah, I’m picky. And not ashamed of it. Incel who thinks I’m Hitler can fuck right off with that.
NO IT FUCKING IS NOT.
Hitler actually LIKED seeing women repressed, in both their sexuality and in terms of men to choose from. Why do you think he was so squicked out by the thought of German women doing it with black guys and Jews?
Also, Hitler was NOT about equal rights. For ANYONE.
I can’t believe anyone still has to point this out in 20-fucking-19.
Wow how pathetic of them.
Dude, you’re what 23-24 years old? Get some fucking perspective and quit reading incel bullshit.
Ugh…rereading my post, and noting a typo: Wouldn’t MIND, not MINE. Sorry ’bout that.
It isn’t? Shit, I must be doing something other than living, then. Existing as some eldritch and unknowable entity beyond the realms of human comprehension, maybe? I could dig that.
@Catalpa
Oh noes I’m an elder god! *cries in fthagn
Aren’t alot of online dating profiles just bots anyway lol. Social media is toxic, yes, alot fo developers from snap chat to instagram have said how these sites are designed to be addicting like gambling. The instagram perfect life is seriously harmful along with the completely unrealistic body expectations and FOMO continues to rise from it (something I struggle with alot) – – there are so many problems when it comes to SM. But incels can’t blame anything but themselves for their actions. They’re the same guys who cheer for killing women yet wants women to like them.
Sometimes I read this nonsense to Mr. Skylala and this time his response was “Is there anything below 0, because that’s what I am, or they’ll have to readjust the scale if they’re including me?” So I guess that’s him raising his hand that he’s Sub 8 and had sex? He’s most assuredly still alive, although his pancreas tried to remedy that about 9 years ago. And we have DNA evidence he not only had sex he *gasp* procreated. Dude makes cute kids but objectively is no where near Chadly levels of attractiveness. He’s funny, though, and we’re now saying the same things at the same time more & more often. I guess being married 22 years has that effect.
So you’re dead, writing from beyond the grave.
Check around and see if classes in punctuation and capitalization are offered in the afterlife. Sign up.
@Skylalalalalalala
Sometimes I read this nonsense to Mr. Boyfriend, and he says, “What a bunch of losers!”
You know what’s worse than being killed to death? Being killed to suffering!!
Gotta be the first time I’ve ever genuinely been amused by these delusional, violent zealots.
In other news, the hyper-reactionary, openly anti-lgbt and racist PPC candidate here was just curbstomped in the polls, ending (effectively) last, with the “disgusting[sic]” “terrorist[sic]” Jagmeet Singh winning with a huge 13% lead in a 4-candidate election.
Now that’s more like it, Canada.
@Kat
Umm, not to be all “Well, actually,” but I’d argue that the list of victims of the Holocaust goes well beyond those who died. Primo Levi did not write from beyond the grave.
Sorry, I know it’s a joke, and given my blacker-than-black sense of humor I shouldn’t mind, but for some reason that one got to me.
More importantly, though, going back to David’s post: Umm, in that picture from Reno 911, is the person in the middle wearing anything other than the shirt? Because I honestly can’t tell.
@Rabid Rabbit
I’m relying on the context of what this incel is saying. “They definitely claim my life” and “We’re left getting murdered” indicate to me that if these victims are not yet dead, they are certainly near death. And this incel is not envisioning a miraculous recovery.
(yes, this is on topic… read to the end…)
In the old days, telegram code books existed to save travelling salesmen & corporations money. Instead if sending “arrived at Port” you would send “BIINC”, instead of “left the city for the home office” “NARVO”, etc.
The “New Yorker” checked one of those code books and discovered it has weird entries such as “a great battle is now raging here”, “transpiring pilgrims to Mecca at the prevailing price per head”, etc.
The “New Yorker” also wondered who would “rise Phoenix-like from their own ashes” to send “the most fantastic of code words”, AXEHO: “met with a fatal accident”.
Well, now we know! It just means he didn’t get a date!
I love how groups that overlap with antisemites, if not being antisemitic themselves, at once want to compare all of their suffering to the Holocaust and eclipse it, and deny the Holocaust ever happened so that Jews are just whining about our made-up genocide by which all genocides and horrors must be compared, somehow. They’ve convinced themselves that it’s a mythical unicorn of suffering and unless their horses match that unicorn, they can’t get sympathy.
But we’re funding porn and empowering women and doing other dastardly stuff with our Jew Gold JUST TO MAKE SURE INCELS DON’T GET LAID. *insert maniacal laugh here*
Ugh. I feel squicky having just typed that, personally. Time for a shower.
Consistently isn’t their strong point. Something they come to this *private blog* and complain about “censorship” b/c they don’t like the comment policy.
It’s not censorship if *you* want to post on *someone else’s* blog and thus have to follow their policy. If the blog owner wanted to allow only posts in Esperanto, they may.
P.S.
If we Jews a control the world, where’s my piece of the action?
I’d always got the impression that prolonged use of dating apps made a woman feel that any man that doesn’t introduce himself with crude sexual propositions or veiled threats is worth considering, and if they also have basic grammar skills they are a gem and you should consider proposing.
Which way is this conspiracy supposed to be working?
Also, I live in Germany. Just going to museums here is soul-raking, there are little gold cobblestones everywhere Berlin to mark the homes that people never went back to from those camps, and while I know the self-pity is ridiculous I can’t find it amusing at all.
I didn’t do Tinder, but I did do OKCupid. There did come moments where you felt like a kid in the candy shop and I’d flip through men and be all “Next!”. So whenever that happened, I’d slow down and remind myself that all these guys – even the ones with toxic personalities were all human – with real feelings. There would also come moments when I felt very much at the other end of it and realised I was being held onto as a 2nd or 3rd best option, etc etc. or people were chatting with me for their own purposes which weren’t about getting to know me for a potential date or potential relationship. I’d take a break then.
The sheer volume of people and the catalogue style is a bit dehumanising, but it’s also very efficient – esp when you live in a big city like I do. I’d go through phases of relatively intensive dating and then I’d go through phases where I wasn’t doing that.
When I met my partner he was in the first month or so of dating again and was in an intense phase. I was in a ‘break’ phase so I wasn’t seeing anyone else, but his messages intrigued me enough that I met up with him and also he was probably the first guy I chatted with where I thought – oh if this doesn’t work out as a dating situation, I think I’d like to pursue a friendship with him. He was seeing a bunch of people and even though we had a great first date and set a date for the next night which was shamazing – he saw someone else the following night (though he did offer to cancel).
I could have been all upset about that, but he didn’t owe me anything but decency really at that point. Even though we probably both felt that this ‘thing’ had some legs, it was a bit too soon to block off other options. I didn’t have any other options, but that’s because I wasn’t in active dating phase really. I did tell him that I hoped his date that night would be ‘entertainingly bad, but failing that, just not very good’. Anyway, we’re still together and it’s by far the best relationship I’ve ever had.
Mogwitch:
This is not a million miles from the truth! 🙂 But I have slightly higher standards. My man has excellent grammar and is a good writer in general. Oh – and the way he can spell… yum. I didn’t propose to him, but I did accept.
This level of pathetic false victimhood is vile, squalid and putrid. I have less than no sympathy, negative sympathy.
@Jane Done
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Less cis men in the world?! Oh nooooooo…
In my mind, he sounds like he’s shouting eveything he’s written there.
OT
Are we breeding depraved billionaires? Economic inequality, sex trafficking and Trump’s America
Donald Trump, Jeffrey Epstein and Robert Kraft: Wealth inequality is turning super-rich into comic-book villains
Amanda Marcotte
February 25, 2019
https://www.salon.com/2019/02/25/are-we-breeding-depraved-billionaires-economic-inequality-sex-trafficking-and-trumps-america/
I’ve very little experience with dating apps. Being aro, it wasn’t a huge priority. But about 5 years ago, I created an OK Cupid account on a whim the night before I went out of town for a couple of days. Since it was a spontaneous decision and I’m not a selfie taker, I didn’t have a decent picture ready to go. So I used one of my eye as a placeholder until I had time to get an alright picture. I had zero expectation of getting messaged, but I did anyway. I even had a couple of decent conversations. Until a bunch of dudes complained about my lack of photo and my account got taken down within two days.
tl;dr these dudes can fuck off if they think they’re only one put out by a focus on looks in dating apps. A bunch of men were so angry that I was either depriving them of wank fodder or disguising my status as an uggo or fatty that rather than just not messaging me, they got my account shut down. In two days.