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Ruin your weekend with this grotesque “field report” from a MGTOW who had sex

Our thoughts exactly

By David Futrelle

So-called “Men Going Their Own Way” are so bad at the whole “going their own way” part of their little woman-hating credo that they sometimes have sex with women.

As you might imagine, this often does not go very well for either person involved. Consider this “field report” posted to the MGTOW subreddit recently by one sex-having Redditor, which may just put you off food and/or sex forever.

Had sex yesterday,” declared the MGTOW man who calls himself nowig.

Was a most disgusting, vile act.

i don’t know why i do this anymore. i really don’t.

None of us know why you do this. Aren’t you supposed to be going your own damn way?

the whole experience was traumatizing and disgusting. she was 26, around 5’2″ and petite.

That poor woman had no idea what she was in for.

making out on a park bench, i was careful to nibble around her mouth. there was something off-putting about her saliva maybe. a slight metallic aftertaste. this is true for the vast majority of girls though: i don’t like the taste.

I’m sure you taste utterly delicious yourself. Astringent, with a delicate aftertaste of bitterness and an entire life wasted.

getting back to her place, fumbling around in the dark to get her clothes off. disappointment at those 5-10 lb of concealed pudge.

How dare she be slightly less skinny than you expected!

she was totally put together in clothes, but had a falling-apart body with a thicker lower half and droopy sad tits

Dude, you are a droopy sad tit.

and this is a girl who works out and is in top 20% of americans her age.

She probably spent most of her next workout session wailing on a punching bag with fists and feet, imagining that it was your sorry ass.

touching her amorphous “spinner” bod, fingering her slimepit. i was so sadly deflated.

No one who uses the phrase “fingering her slimepit” has ever had good sex with anyone.

i felt an obligation to go down on her to prep her for the actual sex. so i did, and it was as awful as i imagined.

Yeah, I can’t imagine it was much of a treat for her either.

there was some acidic/fruity smell emanating, and i essentially used my lower lip to smush against her relatively clean clit, so as to avoid having my tongue come into contact with the main portion of her gaping moist hole.

I can’t imagine her “hole” was either gaping or moist at this point. It was probably trying to sew itself shut.

my dick was floppy and unenthused the whole time despite my having taken a cialis.

Dude, no amount of Cialis is going to fix what ails you, as your problems appear to stem from a giant deposit of toxic sludge in your brain. And where are you getting Cialis from, anyway? Do you go to Donald Trump’s old doctor?

i immediately went into nervous hyper-focus mode as i tried to get the condom on, stroke my dick into readiness, and finger and prep her while angling my semi-flaccid dick for the final insertion. trying not to be awkward while sweating from the prospect of failure.

Here’s me right now:

Onward:

once it was in, i was able to pump for a good long while, but didn’t want to change positions so as not to jeopardize my erection.

i came into the condom and immediately rushed out to clean up. i noticed a thick layer of white slime had accumulated past the condom and on the upper portion of my shaft.

Dude, you are a thick layer of white slime.

i felt chills and literally shivered with horror as i rinsed off in the shower.

You and me both, dude.

i now have some inkling of why i hate dating so much, and why my standards for women and romance and abstract ideals are so high. it’s because the actual act of sex is so appalling, anything less than perfection in the other areas would fail to compensate

Dude, think for a moment about all the times you’ve had sex. (It shouldn’t take too long.) What do all of these experiences have in common?

That’s right: YOU. It’s not that “the actual act of sex is appalling.” Most people seem to enjoy it. It’s that the actual act of sex WITH YOU is so appalling that you should never, ever do it ever again, both for your sake and for the sake of every woman in the world, so that they don’t have to even imagine what it would be like to have sex with you.

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ribblefizz
ribblefizz
2 years ago

So basically this guy’s just so far in the closet that he hasn’t yet recognized that women don’t turn him on?

Homophobia has a lot to answer for, man.

Meteor
2 years ago

Just NO, just really no.

Sarah
Sarah
2 years ago

Uff dah. This fellow is either deeply in the closet, which is sad in its own right, or he is some kind of body-fluid-a-phobe, which is likely due to some kind of traumatic experience. Nobody gets this way as a matter of course.

Alex
Alex
2 years ago

I mean, dude might be asexual or sex-repulsed if he finds sexual activity so … repulsive. Like, every bit of physicality here seems to be horrific for him. And if he could recognise that he’s the one with the problem, that he’s the one horrified by sex, that the issue isn’t women having bodily fluids and orifices and normal human anatomy, he’d probably be a way happier person. There’s nothing wrong with being asexual or sex-repulsed. The problem is when you project that onto other humans as if they’re the problem for being not what you want (when the problem is, in fact, that you don’t want anyone). Dude is classically projecting here, and sadly, if he looked inwards and really thought about what he experienced, he’d likely be less inclined to lash out at the women who don’t meet his literally impossible standards.

casta
casta
2 years ago

Makes one wonder how many of these MGTOW dudes really need to re-evaluate their sexual orientation.

jon
jon
2 years ago

I have to disagree with the above comments saying he’s in the closet.

There’s no reason to believe such a hateful turd could love anyone. He’s clearly so far outside of empathy and kindness and reality about bodies that there’s no way he could be satisfied with anything other than his own hand or hands while he thinks about some sort of sanitized beauty that only exists in a sad imagination.

He’s not going to be satisfied with any body. He’s not going to be satisfied with any sex act. He’s just a self-centered asshole.

Susan
Susan
2 years ago

Curious to know what kind if comments this received from other MGTOWs. No, wait. I definitely do NOT want to know what kinds of comments this received. I think I can pretty much guess…

Prith kDar
Prith kDar
2 years ago

Wait, did he just leave her in bed while he ran off to take a shower?

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

So basically this guy’s just so far in the closet that he hasn’t yet recognized that women don’t turn him on?

This fellow is either deeply in the closet,

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Anyway. This guy reminds me of Christopher in Oregon. I wonder what happened to him? Anyone else remember him?
https://wehuntedthemammoth.com/?s=christopher%20in%20oregon

And off topic, but the new hbomberguy video on woke advertising has a mammoth hunting reference! I wonder if he reads this site.

joekster (bearded beta)
joekster (bearded beta)
2 years ago

Can we not blame LGBTQIA+ folk for misogynistic assholery? I think they’ve enough to deal with.

kthanks.

Victorious Parasol
2 years ago

Closet, schmoset. We’ve seen plenty of MGTOWs who heterosexually hate women.

Dude. Sex isn’t a requirement. You can just go your own way and not schtup anybody.

Susan
Susan
2 years ago

David, that sounds about right…

Jane Done
Jane Done
2 years ago

@Re: closet

Just no. Really. Please stop trying to associate every disgusting, toxic, teflon-meltingly acidic person with minorities. LGBT people have enough on their plate without having every repulsive person thrown into the category by default.

Re: OP

You, Mr Migstogyny, are an utterly incompetent, tantrum-throwing, coddled infant.

i don’t like the taste

It’s the human mouth, not a can of soda. Human skin, and especially internal skin, is not supposed to taste like processed sugar, or like artificial medical grade synthetic plastic. Your mouth is no better, probably worse.

Side note: every time I see a guy spit, trying to “look cool”, I really want to just say to him “I feel bad for your girlfriend if even you can’t stand how awful your saliva tastes”.

disappointment at [actual real human body]

falling-apart body with a thicker lower half and droopy sad tits

this is a girl who works out

You are literally a western otaku at this point. So utterly delusional you actually think women actually should look like a cartoon. Boobs are not supposed to be perfect, glossy, gravity-defying spheres.

I’ve already covered it before but almost everyone has “pudge” when they aren’t posing for the perfect selfie. Even schwarzenegger has stomach folds when he reaches for his toes. This is real life, not an anime, not a cartoon, not extreme porn.

Even when world-class athletes pose for pictures, body shape still doesn’t portray physical ability.

i felt an obligation to go down on her to prep her for the actual sex

Penis-in-vagina is not the end-all be-all until-the-end-of-all-time of sex. What you’re doing right there is “actual sex”. But then that would be admitting that the universe doesn’t revolve around your penis, which is bad, and wrong.

i noticed a thick layer of white slime had accumulated past the condom

You’re literally describing a white fluid covering the condom that contains YOUR WHITE SLIMY FLUIDS.

HOW IS IT EVEN PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE TO BE THIS BRAINDEAD?!

If nature really does abhor a vacuum, nowig’s skull should not be able to exist.

Boob Tyrant Queen
Boob Tyrant Queen
2 years ago

I feel like he’s actually describing a body horror movie

I sent the quotes to some friends both male and female and lo and behold they thought the same.

Like only Miggys (Moggys?) can truly make a one night stand (hopefully the poor girl can do at better ) sound like the scene in a movie before an alien abomination eats someone’s face

Jane Done
Jane Done
2 years ago

@WWTH: I noticed that!! I really wonder now too.

jp
jp
2 years ago

Oh, David, the stuff you read so we don’t have to!

I mean, I’m laughing right now, but this is not really very funny at all.

Emily
Emily
2 years ago

I love how he is blaming what is so clearly a gigantic personal problem on the poor woman he was with, and her “5-10 lb of concealed pudge”.

kupo
kupo
2 years ago

Thanks to everyone who responded to the closet comments already. But there was another one that bothered me.

I mean, dude might be asexual or sex-repulsed if he finds sexual activity so … repulsive

The dude is a misogynist. He finds women repulsive because he hates us. Ace people are good folk, let’s not throw them under the bus.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
2 years ago

This sounds like a chapter from “The Road”. A joyless man trudging endlessly through a bleak, ashen sexscape, with no idea what he’s looking for. It’s such a desolate place, there aren’t even any capital letters.

Had she turned him down, of course, he’d be writing an equally angry screed about her fruity smell and extra 5-10 pounds. Who does she think she is, rejecting him when she’s full of bacteria and metabolic processes?

There really is no point in interacting with these men. The end result is the same no matter what.

Valentin - Emigrantski Ragamuffin
Valentin - Emigrantski Ragamuffin
2 years ago

As someone who is in the ace spectrum and queer (bi) I think these comments are not something I expected in a progressive space at all. It makes me feel a bit unwelcome. People who act violently and hatefully are not in any closet, that is a harmful stereotype which is throwing your queer allies under a bus.

Lainy
Lainy
2 years ago

If you don’t like sex buddy then don’t have it. There I solve your problem for you. If you like the feeling of an orgasm you can do that yourself. No need to bring someone else into your bullshit.

there was something off-putting about her saliva maybe. a slight metallic aftertaste

And my Fiancé taste like a mint mixed with an ash tray when I kiss him. Tasting bad when you kiss someone isn’t a gendered thing.

I really can’t stand these guys.

Lainy
Lainy
2 years ago

@Valentin

I’m very sorry for all of that. Please know that you are welcome here and those types of comments will be called out.

Jane Done
Jane Done
2 years ago

Ditto to kupo, being ace is NOT caused by repulsion. Nor is actual sex repulsion or sex disorders in general the cause of misogyny. None of these things are the same as each other.

Lainy
Lainy
2 years ago

Ditto to kupo, being ace is NOT caused by repulsion. Nor is actual sex repulsion or sex disorders in general the cause of misogyny. None of these things are the same as each other.

And if anything sex repulsion or sex disorders can be caused from Misogyny. I know I didn’t want to be touched or even looked at in a sexual way after my assault. Their misogyny isn’t a symptom of some sort of disorder. Their bullshit causes disorders and problems to other people.

Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
2 years ago

I’ve seen a lot of Mammoth posts I couldn’t quite finish, but this one I couldn’t even start. I just know it would make me vomit.

Bakunin
Bakunin
2 years ago

@Eddie
I read it. You aren’t missing anything.

@Valentin
You are appreciated here.

Speculation about orientation or desire is gross and pointless.

TheKND
TheKND
2 years ago

I don’t particularly enjoy sex myself (I’m a dem bordering to asexual) but even when I had it, I wouldn’t describe it with that much bile. Then again, I actually love my partner and share their happiness, so I’m not all alone and miserable in my own disgust.

Jim
Jim
2 years ago

The body-shaming language did seem like a tipoff that maybe misogyny was the guy’s real problem.

“Well DUH”, right?

First-time commentator here. I’ve been learning quite a bit from you folks by browsing several threads. I appreciated that part.

Then I tumble onto a story about Lobster Boy and a rape-positive victim-blamer showed up and it effed me up…

Not Edward
Not Edward
2 years ago

His is a consumer rights complaint: his basic issue is that his experience on purchasing Sex With A Woman™ did not match the product specifications as advertised on whatever porn sites he’s into.
The sad part is that all the things he is complaining about are all the things that reminded him that here was a separate person from himself, with a body different from his and with her own unique smell and taste and feel*. I say this is sad because it is exactly experiencing and exploring this otherness which is the reason why actual sex is (or should be) infinitely better than the jerking off to internet porn he obviously prefers.

*Noticing that the woman also had her own thoughts and emotions too would have been advanced level giving a sh*t about other people which he obviously isn’t ready for yet.

Lukas Xavier
Lukas Xavier
2 years ago

I think the problem here is really rather simple: He’s trying to fuck a lady he’s not actually attracted to. I’m not sure why he’d expect that to turn out well.

I mean, they’re kissing and it doesn’t rev his engine. Well, why are you proceeding, then? Why are you going home with a woman you don’t like? Why are you fucking someone who doesn’t turn you on?
Why would you expect that to be anything other than awkward and uncomfortable?

Basically, he’s making bad decisions and they’re predictably leading him to feel bad. The answer is to make different decisions.

(A)utonomous Escapist
(A)utonomous Escapist
2 years ago

While this is purely personal, I cannot for the life of me imagine being this turned off by sex, unless you’re just not into it with the person in question. I also wonder why he went through with it, if it was so terribly gross. If you’re really that much of an assertive male with a solidly grounded centre, couldn’t you just have, y’know, not had sex if you weren’t into it.

I’d actually love to know his partners perspective. Must have been a hoot…

And let’s not speculate on him being confused about anything other than basic humanity towards women.

Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
2 years ago

If you’re really that much of an assertive male with a solidly grounded centre, couldn’t you just have, y’know, not had sex if you weren’t into it.

Because turning down free sex with a real live woman would mean he was a soyboy beta cuck, of course.

Sadly, the social norms among men reinforce that men are supposed to be “ready to go” at all times, with pretty much anything that moves, is feminine, and has a hole, and if a man doesn’t then at best he’s a sissy beta, and at worst … gay or something.

So, we can chalk up this awkward and uncomfortable encounter (for both parties, no doubt) to toxic masculinity. Which the Redditor would rant and rail doesn’t exist if he read this, no doubt. 🙁

(A)utonomous Escapist
(A)utonomous Escapist
2 years ago

@Surplus: I know and agree, I guess I was being rhetorical or something.

Not Edward
Not Edward
2 years ago

@ Lucas @ Escapist
I think he doesn’t really get the concept of being “into” or desiring another person at all. He wasn’t interested in sex with the woman concerned as such – what he wanted was to “do sex”, and the woman was a tiresomely necessary piece of equipment he had to acquire to enable him to do so – equipment which he has decided must have been defective because the experience turned out not to be as he expected.

Bluecat
Bluecat
2 years ago

Person unable to have fun with their own genitals and who is not giving any fun to another person’s genitals, should probably leave the genitals alone for a while.

Person unable to like another person appears also unable to like themselves. – but to love complaining and projecting their failure onto other people.

Probably needs to deal with the latter before attempting to overcome the former.

Valkyrine
Valkyrine
2 years ago

Sounds like he’s caught in the crossroads of toxic masculinity, telling him that as a man he must have sex and want sex as much as possible or he’s a loser and not a real man; and purity culture, telling him that sex is something dirty and unclean (and so is the woman he’s having sex with, if she isn’t his wife (and maybe even then)).

Jarnsaxa
Jarnsaxa
2 years ago

Good grief. If you don’t wanna have sex, DON’T.

Hetneo
Hetneo
2 years ago

Hi everyone. First time commenter here, who recently discovered this blog and just today started paying attention to comments, so pardon me if I’m breaking some etiquette.

That being said, you are all utterly wrong about this guy. His post is not about him being asexual or grossed out by bodily fluids, or in closet. It’s about him being a “sex god”.

I’ll try to keep things simple because English is not my native language. If I sound condescending it’s because I’m trying to avoid digression and overly long sentences.

There are certain fetishes among straight man related to female orgasm, but actually centered around make sexual proves. For this situation relevant are fetishisation of natural vaginal secretion, a.k.a. grool or girl drool. In short, story goes that if you are the best of the best of the best fuckers you will be able to make a girls’ VJ drool profusely. Just to make it clear grool is several orders of magnitude above being wet, and often called female ejaculation among such sexually frustrated and insecure males. Insecure about their sexual proves, that is.

The central image of his fairy tale is of his member when he pulls out. He, the author, wishes to paint himself as the ultimate fucker, sex god who can make random girl grool even when he’s not even trying to satisfy her. But not just that, oh no. He paints self as so much gone his own way that he is unaware of the fact that he is physical embodiment of sexual god. He’s so nonchalant about the fact that he brought random chick to the top of the tops, to the highest levels of orgasmic hights.

TL/DR: That is just a fake story from a guy who is insecure of own ability to satisfy a woman, with which he wants to invite images of him being best fucker there is, in minds of equally insecure men.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
2 years ago

Disgust at opposite-sex genitals =\= attraction to same-sex genitals.

This seems like standard right-wing disgust sensitivity. Biological disgust translates into moral disgust (same phenomenon at work w/ describing immigrants as vermin, parasites, dirty, criminals, etc.), and that’s the root problem here. I’m too afraid to click on the link, but I’d bet dollars to doughnuts the comments are full of MGTOWs speculating on STDs, how many dicks she’s had, etc.

moregeekthan
moregeekthan
2 years ago

The whole thing reads like some odd version of the old “doctor, my arm hurts when I do this” joke. If there were somehow whole groups of men banded together in Men Whose Arms Hurt When They Do That (MWAHWTDT) groups. Because they preferred to complain about how unfair the universe is that their arms hurt when they do that, rather than just proceding to the punchline.

Bakunin
Bakunin
2 years ago

@Buttercup
At great personal risk, I took that bullet. Surprise, you aren’t wrong, on either guess. Shocker.

You all know what actually is a shocker? Couple of the comments went on the same “vagina gross, must be gay” garbage, AND THERE’S PUSHBACK FROM MGTOWS. Even MRAs know that trope is shitty.

Phaos
Phaos
2 years ago

So I’m making an active effort to get a little less pudgy recently, in part because I didn’t totally like how I looked in a dress and in part as a side effect of generally improving some of my health choices. Once you’re getting to that “5-10 pounds of extra pudge” he’s talking about, it’s a LOT of sacrifices you have to make to see that go away. I would not personally expect anyone to cut back on enjoyable things to the level I have (don’t worry sugared soda’s hole in my life has been filled with fabulosity).

Walter
Walter
2 years ago

This is a very sad story. The guy is a jerk, but I can’t help but feel sorry for him. His reaction to sex and the female body seems like the reaction of a person with some unaddressed emotional issues. I also feel really bad for his partner. She must have noticed his reaction and I am sure that didn’t feel good at all.

I hope he gets counseling and the woman he was with finds someone who appreciates her.

eibhear
eibhear
2 years ago

(de-lurking)

Hmm, reminds me of John Ruskin.

Nowherepants
Nowherepants
2 years ago

@ribblefizz: Uhhhhh, No. Just because a man doesn’t like sex does not imply that he’s gay. This guy sounds to me like he’s asexual. Society puts a lot of pressure on men to prove themselves by having sex with women. AS IF it’s not okay just to be single and celibate. Futrelle sounds offended that this guy did both enjoy his sexual experience and expressed his strong opinion that sex is disgusting.

Nequam
Nequam
2 years ago

@Bakunin: I imagine MRAs are actually just fine with that trope– until it’s used on them.

Viscaria
Viscaria
2 years ago

@nowherepants

Uhhhhh, No. Just because a man doesn’t like sex does not imply that he’s gay. This guy sounds to me like he’s asexual.

Maybe we don’t need to speculate about this person’s orientation at all. Like, what is happening in this comment section right now.

Nowherepants
Nowherepants
2 years ago

@Viscaria: Fair enough. However, he gives me the impression that sex is unappealing to his senses and he is disgusted by it. I have never thought of asexuality as an orientation but I suppose it could be.

I wonder if he is autistic. People with autism have sensory issues and sex is a masssive stumulation of the senses.

Would Dave have blogged about this if the genders were reversed? That’s the big question. And all the bros were shaming him for not enjoying sex with a woman. He was not obligate to go down on her. Makes me wonder if she pressured him into it.

Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
2 years ago

@nowherepants: ummmmmm? UMMMM?

A) yes, asexuality is an orientation. You’ve learned something today.

B) DO NOT GUESS IF SOMEONE IS AUTISTIC????!!!???!!?!?

*Resets the counter on how many days it has been since i had to say: “misogyny is not a mental illness, a sexual orientation, or anything else.”*

Like, what the actual fuck, friend?

Would Dave have blogged about this if the genders were reversed? That’s the big question. And all the bros were shaming him for not enjoying sex with a woman. He was not obligate to go down on her. Makes me wonder if she pressured him into it.

What even is this? No, David probably wouldn’t have blogged about a reverse situation. You know why? There isn’t a self identified recognisable group of “women going their own way”.

OP was not obliged to do *any* of this, and yet he did. Almost like there was a script that he felt he hd to follow, or be thought of as less of a man or something.

What would make you think she ‘pressured’ him into it????

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