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Angry dudes prove “toxic masculinity” isn’t a thing by screeching about a Gillette ad and calling other men soy boys, cucks, and f***ots

Gillette ad from 1905. Has the razor company now alienated its manbaby customer base?

By David Futrelle

Gillette’s new ad challenging toxic masculinity has got a lot of people talking. Unfortunately, most of them seem to be angry dudes attacking Gillette for challenging them to be “The Best Men Can Be,” and using the ad as an excuse to call other men “soy boys,” cucks, sissies, pansies and f***ots.

The ad, which took on an assortment of related issues ranging from bullying to sexual harassment, has gotten 5.6 million views on YouTube since it was released Sunday. It’s also gotten more than 400,000 “dislikes,” nearly four times the number of likes.

If you haven’t seen it yet, here it is. I have mixed feelings about giant corporations trying to position themselves as progressive entities, but the ad itself is pretty good, as these things go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koPmuEyP3a0

So what are the online, er, critics saying? I spent a while reading through some of the reactions on Twitter, where the video was also posted, and, well, let’s just say that, just as comments on any article about feminism prove the need for feminism, Tweets about videos challenging toxic masculinity prove the need for videos challenging toxic masculinity.

Let’s start with Jeffrey here, who conveys some of the flavor of the response with this weird attack on Ana Kasparian of The Young Turks, who appears briefly in the video as an example of a journalist talking about the #MeeToo movement.

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#GetWokeGoBroke #fuckgillette #gillette  Dear Gillette, the thought of this hag shaving it's twat with your razor has unfortunately put me off buying them ever again.    Hope you can sustain your business selling to soy boys and hairy dykes.   Good luck buttercup!

But most of the attacks weren’t misogynist attacks on women; they were, rather, misogynistic attacks on the allegedly insufficient masculinity of the Gillette executives behind the ad, and on those the ad was designed to appeal to.

Did I say men? I meant “soy boys.” Or at least that’s what the commenters meant.

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You idiots. I will never use anything you sell ever !!! You need some marketing directors with some balls instead of the soy boy snowflakes that thought up this bullshit advertisement . Good bye and good riddance!!
are you a Soy-Boy-non- gender-binding-beta-male ?

Do you constantly lean to the left like some kind of mindless robot?

Do you have zero self-discipline/commonsense and believe everything the MSM tells you ?

?...you do;
 “than soft-cock Gillette Shavers are for you
I'd like to know when BAD Boys real men stopped getting all the beautiful women.  It hasn't stopped.  No woman wants a wet noodle soy boy.  So @Gillette stop your virtue signaling real women like real men.

Apparently, all the excess testosterone in these manly men’s systems has rendered them incapable of original thought. These aren’t the most creative of people.

Still, some eschewed the “soy boy” insult in favor of assorted old-school insinuations of inadequate manhood.

The best THEY want us to be are mewling beta males.  Shaming the man-apes into submission is the narrative. #FuckGillette
I won't buy any Gillette products henceforth.  These preposterous attacks on masculinity are not going to work.  America doesn't deserve a nation of feminized sissy boys!
Men are not limp wristed girls, ok some are, but a real man is just that, a man. We wont give up our masculinity for gillette or anyone else. Go ahead and be a pansy if you want to. I will not.
What in God’s name is wrong with you people? You want men to be sissies, or mommy’s boys or something? Get over the PC crap and sell MENS products! When I run out of Turbo blades, I’m done with your brand! CEO must be a mamas boy now, huh??

Others mixed-and-matched old and new school insults with gleeful abandon.

Remember cucks, hairy femonists prefer that you shave your balls before surrendering them.
Gillette is the only razor with a patented soy based comfort coating so betas can shave their pits to please their girlfriends who refuse to.
Gillette ad brought to you by pansies, swishes, and soy boys.
Any real Man in his right mind would NEVER join a Emasculated Beta Org that is for Sissy Beta Soyboy

Others descended into straight-up homophobic attacks:

Do I have to shave my balls too, faggots?
Lick my ass u fucking cucks maybe u faggots can switch from razors to dildos fucking queers jam ur razors up ur assholes

Others went with everyone’s favorite transphobic slur.

Gillette The Best A Tranny Can Get

Such an inventive play on Gillette’s famous slogan “The Best a Man Can Get.”

And it’s not like anyone else thought of that joke. Oh, wait.

Bye-bye Jill-ette "the best a cuck can get"
The best a total faggot can get.
Gillette: The Best A Bitch Boy Can Get. #TheBestMenCanBe
Gillette. The best a soy boy can get!
the best a pansy can get

Yes, I’ll have the combo, please.

Gillette, the best a soy boy, beta male, NPC, cuck, can get.

On second thought, I’ll have one with everything.


But perhaps the strangest contribution to this whole debate that I ran across while, er, researching this piece by bumbling around on Twitter came from our old friend Stefan Molyneux, the culty Canadian “philosopher” and YouTube blabber, who had this observation about the ad:

Not one Jewish dude in the Gillette anti-male film about the #metoo movement?

Seems kinda anti-Semitic to me.

Stefan is suggesting, in a sly if not-quite-plausibly deniable way, that the ad is somehow going easy on Jewish men and exempting them from the “toxic masculinity” accusations, almost as if there were some big Jewish conspiracy on Madison Avenue to go along with the one in Hollywood.

How do I know this is what he’s getting at? Molyneux is an increasingly open anti-Semite who pretends to oppose anti-Semitism; he regularly tweets regurgitated anti-Semtiic talking points and, in a tweet the other day he explicitly denied that he has any Jewish blood in him. Which is evidently a big concern in the circles he hangs out in these days.

My question, of course, is how he can tell that none of the guys in the ad are Jewish. I mean, there are a LOT of boys and men in the ad, and it kind of seems statistically likely that at least a couple of them are Jewish. But evidently Stefan’s Jewdar is better than mine.

Turns out Stefan wasn’t the only one thinking about Jews. So were these guys, and they weren’t quite so subtle as Stefan in their tweets.

It’s only the white men portrayed as the evil ones. Minorities were the white nights. @Gillette should review actual rape statistics and see they’re disproportionally committed by people of color, and the vast over representation of sexual harassment & rape by Hollywood Jews.
and the director of the ad is Kim Gehrig. Woman? Check. Jew? Check. Every. Fucking. Time.

(I’m not quite sure how this fellow decided she was Jewish; I found no indications as to her religion online. “Gehring” is a German name but as far as I can tell not one specifically associated with Jews. Not that anti-Semites are big on accuracy.)

So I guess the problem isn’t just that a lot of men are poisoned by toxic masculinity. I guess a lot of them are also Nazis, who turn every discussion into an opportunity to talk shit about Jews.

I mean, we knew that already. But how convenient to be reminded of both facts so colorfully in this little collection of tweets.

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opposablethumbs
opposablethumbs
5 years ago

@Victorious Parasol and @Crip Dyke, those are brilliant! Absolutely ??? (also I don’t think I’ve ever seen Barrett’s Privateers referenced outside of talk about Due South or more directly about Rogers himself, so extra yay and wow to that 🙂 ).

Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
5 years ago

omgggg sea shanties omggggg

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
5 years ago

And I wrote that without caffeine!

Cyborgette
Cyborgette
5 years ago

@Shadowplay

I mean he started off coherent if sleazy, but then just… leaped off into the demon-infested depths of entitled male rage.

So hatefulness, much bigot, wow.

*shudder*

Fishy Goat
Fishy Goat
5 years ago

*puts on eye patch and shivers me timbers* 😀

And it’s not even Sept 19! Arrrrrrrrrr!!

Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
5 years ago

To the tune of ‘Donkey Riding’ –

Way hey and a way we go tro-oll slayin’, tro-oll slayin’,
way hey and away we go slayin’ all the tro-olls.

Was you ever readin’ ‘bout the things the manosphere tries to spout, leavin’ us all with no doubt about slayin’ all the troo-olls.

Was you ever readin’ a post, when you realised – “It’s a ghost!” MRAL has come ’round to boast, but we’ll slay all the tro-olls.

Was you ever spendin’ moments, when you notice some necro’d comments, I guess they hoped to escape our involvement, but we’ll slay all the tro-olls.

Did you ever have a day, when someone reveals they’re an MRA? The regulars all shout ‘hurray!’ Time to slay the tro-olls.

Way hey and a way we go tro-oll slayin’, tro-oll slayin’,
way hey and away we go slayin’ all the tro-olls.

Way hey and a way we go tro-oll slayin’, tro-oll slayin’,
way hey and away we go slayin’ all the tro-olls.

(for reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FO4R5SmSrw)

NOT COMPLETELY HAPPY but here’s another shanty.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

Oh hey to you, you mansplaining babies
Oh hey to you, you blokes what mansplain
For we’re so used to Jordan’s fan base’s
Spouting the same crap, again and again

(To the tune of that one in Jaws. Where they’re comparing scars)

Cat Mara
Cat Mara
5 years ago

@Rhuu: ??

What have I begun?!

Cat Mara
Cat Mara
5 years ago

@Alan Robertshaw: Nice one! ?

@Crip Dyke may yet prove right and we’ll get a songbook together ?

Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
5 years ago

invol’vment, dammit! Like, if you take out that ‘e’ and sort of make it shorter, it flows way better. lolollll oh well.

Cat Mara – You knew what you started. YOU KNEW.

Jenora Feuer
Jenora Feuer
5 years ago

@Rhuu:
Ahhh, Great Big Sea. Saw them live in Nathan Phillips Square one year, and have several albums.

@Alan:
Now you’ve reminded me of a very old Mad Magazine bit where they spoofed Jaws as a musical, and had the people running the tourist part of town dismissing the shark claims by singing (to the tune of ‘Camelot’:)

Tommyrot! I say Tommyrot!
No, I don’t believe that things could happen quite that way…

Gah, my own song-spoofing talents are a somewhat rusty these days. Back in University I did write a song based on a discussion about moderated news groups called ‘A Mod’rator’s Lot is Not a Happy One.’ (To the tune of ‘A Policeman’s Lot …’) It started something like…

When a troll is out pursuing his enjoyment,
As he verbally assaults another dupe,
He makes necessity of the employment
Of someone to come and try control the group.

Tovius
Tovius
5 years ago

@Alan Robertshaw
This the one?

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

@ tovius

That’s the one! Now I keep expecting to hear the beep beep of a transponder…

@ Jenora

My favourite Jaws reference is Father Dougal’s protestations regarding Jaws 2 in that game of charades.

“It’s a completely different film. It’s a different shark!”

Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
5 years ago

For Ambrose…

(credits due to another mammotheer who suggested this either earlier in this thread, or in a previous thread…)

with humble apologies to the Blues Brothers…

“Troll Man”

Comin’ to ya on on your favorite thread
Gonna misinterpret everything ya said
May seem like I’m really obtuse
But I’m fulla shit as a Christmas goose

I’m a troll man
I’m a troll man
I’m a troll man
I’m a troll man

What you say I never understand
I give insults and I make demands
I got no time to listen to you
But you better see MY point of view

I’m a troll man
I’m a troll… person
Make me leave!!
I’m a troll man
I’m a troll man

Listen
I’m just tryin’ t’ make you see the truth
It’s YOU makin’ ME act all uncouth
Y’know I went to the VERY BEST college
Whatev’ th’ topic, I’m the Book of Knowledge

I’m a troll man 4X

This discussion turns on MY command
Cause I’m WAY UP on my grandstand
What th’ Fuck? I’M being ban….

I… was… a troll man
I’m a troll man 4X

Crip Dyke
5 years ago

well, hell, if we’re branching out into celtic folk (a closely related genre, I’ll grant) we’re going to **have** to do something with Rambling Rover.

Oh, there’re sober men and plenty,
And drunkards barely twenty,
There are men of over ninety
That have never yet kissed a girl.
But give me a ramblin’ rover,
Frae Orkney down to Dover.
We will roam the country over
And together we’ll face the world.
There’s many that feign enjoyment
From merciless employment,
Their ambition was this deployment
From the minute they left the school.

Hrmm….

Oh, there’re hopeless thoughts and plenty,
Frae Poo-ahs barely twenty,
An’ from incels over ninety
That have never yet kissed a girl.
But give me a fem’nist’ author,
Pass’d from mother down to daughter,
We’ll read, we’ll talk, we’ll prosper
And together we’ll change the world.
There’s many that find enjoyment
From merciless employment,
Of mockery almost buoyant
Of the internet’s sexist tools.
They trash what sexists ponder
then write truth, wisdom and wonder,
With elan than makes us fonder
And much happier as a rule.

Oh, we’ve marched through every nation
with every gender, every station
often finding new vocation
of a raucous feminist kind
We’ve been labeled most notorious
while we win our vict’ries glorious
making speeches Senatorious
that kick a sexist behind.

So… If you’re bent wi’ arthiritis,
an’ your bowels have got Colitis,
an’ you’ve gallopin’ bollockitis
and you’re thinkin’ it’s time you died,
Well, if you took the streets for actions,
Committing all infractions,
Fostering loving interactions
Now you can rest on the moving tide…

Hm. Maybe a polish later, but that seems to be working.

Dalillama
5 years ago

@Alan
That’s not the one, actually. This is: (sorry about the quality, most people sing the British version, it’s hard to find a video of the Yankee one that Quint sings.

Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
5 years ago

@ Desperate Ambrose:

Define “toxic masculinity” and substantiate its existence.

ok

“Toxic Masculinity is a term that far leftists use to try to manipulate real men into feeling shameful for being themselves and feeling like normal men do.
[UrbanDictionary]”

so… why the “F” did I pick THAT definition?!?!?!?!? Because, based on your comment stream, I believe you’ll accept it. Interestingly, though it’s obviously meant to MOCK the idea that traditional masculinity (as practiced in patriarchal societies) has real toxic content and that content causes real harm… the UrbanDictionary quote fails miserably at its intended effect, and leaves the reader… wondering.

How? The UrbanDictionary quote and, I contend, the overwhelming majority of patriarchal arguments against the existence of toxic content in patriarchal masculinity does not present an argument AGAINST the existence of toxic masculinity.

Consider the two points of argumentation:

1) “toxic masculinity” shames men for “being themselves”. If “themself” (I love the gender-neutral here) is a bully, yeah… but if “themself” is anti-bully, then no. If “themself” is a spouse abuser, yeah… but if “themself” is a man who treats their spouse with respect and equanimity, then no. Shall I go on?

2) “toxic masculinity” shames men for “feeling like normal men do”. The people who argue that masculinity has toxic content also argue that this toxic content is enculturated into males from an early age, with the intention of the toxic content becoming the norm. I understand that this is not what UrbanDictionary meant when they argued that toxic masculinity shames men for “feeling like normal men do”. So, back to Point Number 1. Does the “normal-feeling man” bully? If so, then those “normal feelings” are toxic. If not, then toxic masculinity does not shame that “normal-feeling man”.

Also, as an aside (if you’ve read this far, then I’d accept that you really do want a dialog), if you want to know who the “regulars” are here, google “[nym of commenter]” AND “wehuntedthemammoth”.

count the hits

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

@ Dalillama

Cheers!

Now I’m you-tubing that band.

Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
5 years ago

@ V.P.:

What do you do with a drunken MGTOW

before we go to the studio, could you consider;

What do you do with a bigoted MGTOW??

thanx., not that I care if the miggy is sotted, but the sotted-itude is (to me, anyway) beside the point

If we go back a few years and collect all the songs the Mammoth Huntin’ Tune-Slayers have written, we have WAY enough for a CD…

And (if we could find ’em) a BUNCH of really fine names for a band!!

just sayin’….

Dalillama
5 years ago

They’re decent, not one of my favourites tbh, just the first performance that version I found. There’s actually yet a third version, involving ranting and roaring like true Newfoundlanders, but I can’t be arsed finding a copy right now.

TheKND
TheKND
5 years ago

“bigoted MGTOW”

Oh, a hendiadyoin, cute

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
5 years ago

@Weird Eddie

Fair ‘nough. I don’t think “bigoted” scans well, though. Hm.

I present the following options!

“What do you do with a braying MGTOW”

“What do you do with a whiny MGTOW”

“What do you do with a blust’ring MGTOW”

We can pick a different adjective for each repetition of the chorus!

Rabid Rabbit
Rabid Rabbit
5 years ago

And, of course, for the very end:

What do you do with a flouncing MGTOW
What do you do with a flouncing MGTOW
What do you do with a flouncing MGTOW
When he fucks off from here?

Point and laugh and drink his tears
Pass the popcorn over here
Hope he won’t come back for years
When he fucks off from here.

A. Noyd
A. Noyd
5 years ago

Very late to the thread, but…wow.

All these words because one excitable twerp cannot imagine how willful ignorance and misuse of a term is not the fault of the people who understand it and use it correctly.

Crip Dyke
5 years ago

There once was a Desperate Ambrose
Whose brains made no mark on his prose
He screamed “I can’t type!
I’m distracted by tripe!”
As we witnessed his words de-compose.