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Terrible Copypasta Thursday: “The THICC meme is a jew psyop created to normalize obesity, indolence and racemixing”

Sir Mixalot: Puppet of the Jews?

By David Futrelle

When you hear someone talking about a woman’s winsome thickness, you may find yourself flashing back — at least if you’re an old like me — to Sir Mixalot’s Baby Got Back. But there are some people out there who evidently start thinking about The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. 

Consider the following terrible copypasta, which seems to have originated on 4Chan’s /pol/ back in 2017,  alleging that the current popular obsession with big butts and other appealingly oversized body parts is the result of some sinister secret scheme masterminded by, well, you take a wild guess.

The T H I C C meme is a jew psyop created to normalize and celebrate obesity, indolence and racemixing. This is done in order to reprogram our basic sexual urges, so that what we find sexually attractive subconsciously promotes a lifestyle of passive over-consumption, waste and materialism. Who profits from your sedentary existence? Big pharma and multinational conglomerates intent on turning you into docile, drug dependent, welfare supported consumers. Furthermore, the typical T H I C C body type is far more prevalent in non-whites. Therefore, this manufactured trend surreptitiously goads the white man toward sullying his genetic lineage. I wonder who could be behind this? Don't fall for their tricks!

Damn, I guess I already have!

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Sophist
Sophist
2 years ago

Rubens was a race-traitor!!!!

Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
2 years ago

/sarcasm

@ Sophist:

Rubens… that sounds (((jewish)))!! Oh, Peter Paul Rubens? well, maybe not….

@ Kivutar:

That’s Neolithic, which is Science-Speak for “pre-christian”, which is “History-Speak” for (((jewish)))!!!

….

These people are actually pretty sharp, speaking of course, of the igno-right trolls…. There is a lucrative market for new “sinister conspiracies” about the Jews, and the trolls are making bank by serving that market!!

Actually, that’s only sarcasm in the strictest sense, as I’m guessing a BUNCH of the people involved in igno-right internet infomercialling are really doing it to make a buck. They likely are bigots, and likely have some pretty rancid beliefs… but I’d think most of them are too lazy to put fantasy to keyboard if there’s no $$$ to be had.

Jordan “Surf.n.Turf” Peterson, I’m calling YOU out. And Fartiste, and Stephen Moly-noxious, and Chris Can’t-well (is he in jail?)…

Moon Custafer
Moon Custafer
2 years ago

Can I just complain about how I spent years wondering why the Venus of Willendorf’s head looks like a golf-ball until I finally saw a photograph from an angle that makes it easier to tell she’s looking down and her hair is braided (or very evenly wavy/curly, or possibly she’s wearing a crocheted tuque, idk)?

TheKND
TheKND
2 years ago

You know, I disagree with that monster says and I’m not attracted to women’s bodies, so I shouldn’t care… but I really want those 5 dumb letters to GO AWAY!
Seriously, I’ve seen every single body type on the planet being called “THICC!”. Like… is this the state of the world? Have we forgotten words like “voluptious” or “buxom” or other nice words that can’t also be interpreted as a woman being slow in the head?
Yes, that actually pisses me off…

kupo
kupo
2 years ago

@TheKND
That’s too bad that you get irrationally angry at language evolving. Imma still use thicc though. 😘

Dormousing_it
Dormousing_it
2 years ago

‘Thicc’ body types are more common among non-whites? Really? Citation needed.

Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
2 years ago

@TheKND – THICC is shorter than the other two words you offered, and so works better when you have a limited amount of characters.

It’s also AAVE. Here’s a link to ‘know your meme‘.

Ooglyboggles
Ooglyboggles
2 years ago

So Thicc Thighs Don’t Save Lives???

Valkyrine
Valkyrine
2 years ago

@Rhuu
Well, Buxom is the same length as Thicc, at least letter-wise. If you count syllables though, Thicc is shorter. :/

Moose
Moose
2 years ago

I always love the whole crap about “normalizing” “celebrating” or “encouraging” obesity.

It’s all just another excuse to treat people like garbage and feel powerful over them.

Gods forbid anyone be allowed to like themselves. It’s hard to approve of others who have the audacity to feel happy when you’re a miserable self-hating jerk who doesn’t think anyone else should be happy.

& before someone comes in with the “but obesity is unhealthy!” try to remember that the BS about “normalizing” “celebrating” or “encouraging” has also been used against gay people, too. Amongst others.

dashapants
dashapants
2 years ago

Mhm, mhm, so then… millennia of evolutionary pressures, which the OP undoubtedly contends have conditioned human beings to prefer slender physique, shall be undone in just a few decades by some crafty jews?

Bina
2 years ago

I want to see the prime specimen of humanity who posted this. And all his medical stats, too. If he gets to police women’s bodies, women should get to police his.

Also, fun fact: Sir Mix-A-Lot’s video contains no actual big butts or thick anything.

Or Judaism, come to that.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
2 years ago

Big Pharma and Big Butt secretly control Washington.

Hippodameia
Hippodameia
2 years ago

[comment removed by request –DF]

Bina
2 years ago

@Buttercup:

Big Pharma and Big Butt secretly control Washington.

I suspect you’re right. Donnie IS a big ass, and rumor has it he snorts crushed Adderall. His sniffy performance at the election debates made me suspect coke, but there’s no reason why it can’t be both…

Snowberry
Snowberry
2 years ago

@Hippodameia: Nina Paley, whose “dancing goddess” Gifs you linked to, is a rabid transphobe. For example, one of her comics (http://mimiandeunice.com) includes a character named “Jendra Identity” who is a talking penis with lipstick and a wig who spouts straw trans arguments and threatens women with a spiked rainbow bat. I can’t tell if it’s TERFism or Cult of True Womanhood nonsense, but it’s pretty bad.

…Just a bit of a warning.

kupo
kupo
2 years ago

Hmmm, I have a big butt and I’m in the other Washington…you may be onto something…

Podkayne Lives
Podkayne Lives
2 years ago

I like the dancing goddesses, but the sheela-na-gig at the bottom is, um, terrifying.

@Snowberry, dang. Now I feel weird about liking the dancing goddesses.

Cat Mara
Cat Mara
2 years ago

@Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie:

…Chris Can’t-well (is he in jail?)…

You can catch up with many of your favorite (sic) alt-right personalities (sic) as the wheels of justice grind them fine over on Emily Gorcenski’s First Vigil project

Pie
Pie
2 years ago

@Moon Custafer

Can I just complain about how I spent years wondering why the Venus of Willendorf’s head looks like a golf-ball until I finally saw a photograph from an angle that makes it easier to tell she’s looking down and her hair is braided (or very evenly wavy/curly, or possibly she’s wearing a crocheted tuque, idk)?

I always assumed it was hair, not a hat, but I thought I’d go check.

Turns out that the figurine is, to use a technical term, fucking old. Like, over 20000 years old. She predates the domestication of sheep by at least 10000 years, and it is possible that her maker didn’t even have access to flax, so I think that rules out any sort of fabric hat. Knitting and crocheting are apparently less than 1000 years old, too.

So, yeah. There’s a lot of history that hadn’t happened when that was carved.

Edit: another venus figure, probably more recent by a few thousand years, has braids.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_of_Brassempouy#/media/File:Venus_of_Brassempouy.jpg

Pie
Pie
2 years ago

Huh. Not only did the image not embed, but the link didn’t even appear.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6b/Venus_of_Brassempouy.jpg

Some people think it might represent a patterned hood, but I’m not one of those.

Gaebolga
Gaebolga
2 years ago

Moose wrote:

I always love the whole crap about “normalizing” “celebrating” or “encouraging” obesity.

I know, right? They seem blissfully unaware that a number of cultures around the world consider larger folks to be more attractive than skinnier ones.

Why, it’s almost like such preferences are driven by society rather than biology….

Redsilkphoenix: Jetpack Vixen, Intergalactic Meanie
Redsilkphoenix: Jetpack Vixen, Intergalactic Meanie
2 years ago

Interesting tidbit I read once about the Venus of Willendorf and figures like her from that time frame. (Forgot where I first found the link; it could have been from someone here. If so, sorry about loosing it. 🙁 ) The article was about whether the artist(s) were more likely to be male or female, and made the point that the physical exaggerations of the Venus actually make sense if you look at it as the artist looking down on her own very pregnant body and using that as her model.

Thought that was an interesting take on why the figures were as fat as they were. YMMV, and all that.

Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
2 years ago

@Pie: despite the pale material used to carve this, I suspect what we are looking at is meant to be a black woman with cornrow hair like:

http://www.askmamaz.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Black-Girls-Braided-Cornrows-Hairstyles.jpg

This is especially likely when one notes that there may not have been any non-black people 20,000 years ago, at least outside of the Far East. The people in the British Isles were dark-skinned at least until 9000 years ago, which makes it likely that the people in Austria also were.

Katamount
Katamount
2 years ago

You can kinda tell that the person who initially wrote this (and those that repost it) is the kind of person that has a desperate need to pull disparate threads into a cohesive theatrical worldview, probably to feel in control, if not for egotistical reasons.

The misogyny (and racism) is bad enough, but the snag of it all is… there is almost a cogent critique of capitalism in there. Multinational pharmaceuticals are hideous entities. Purdue Pharmaceuticals is patient zero for the opioid epidemic. Social media and YouTube bombard you with ads to get you to consume and stay hooked to your phone or your computer. But these assclowns take this and twist it into their own prejudices against other races or genders or sexual orientations.

The weight-related concern-trolling is also really obnoxious.

doomcup
doomcup
2 years ago

@snowberry

Aw no, I’m super disappointed to find Nina Paley is a TERF. Her film Sita Sings the Blues is one of my favorites, and I’d admired her for her stance on copyright abolition.

What a shitty era we live in. What is it about this current time that seems to make people so terrible?

Cat Mara
Cat Mara
2 years ago

@Redsilkphoenix: Jetpack Vixen, Intergalactic Meanie:

The article was about whether the artist(s) were more likely to be male or female, and made the point that the physical exaggerations of the Venus actually make sense if you look at it as the artist looking down on her own very pregnant body and using that as her model.

MIND. BLOWN. 😮

Moon_custafer
Moon_custafer
2 years ago

@TheKND, Kupo, Rhuu:

I know language is constantly evolving, but it does frustrate me a bit that between the ever-increasing rapidity of the euphemism cycle, and the constantly-shifting standards for the “ideal” woman’s body type, I’m never sure how an adjective like “curvy” is going to be interpreted by the hearer/reader; I’ve seen it applied to every body type from Kate Winslet’s to Beth Ditto’s.

(The masculine version seems to be straight people discovering the term “bear” and applying it to, say, Tom Hardy.)

kupo
kupo
2 years ago

@Moon_custafer
Why do you need to comment on a woman’s body type?

Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
2 years ago

@ Kupo

@TheKND
That’s too bad that you get irrationally angry at language evolving. Imma still use thicc though.

I’m so old, I remember when all the “apps” had “plications” 🙂 🙂

kupo
kupo
2 years ago

@Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
We had to drop the plications. Take too long to compile and just a pain to debug.

Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
2 years ago

Regarding the paleolithic venus figurines, there’s a side-bar of thought today which regards these as… (yup, you guessed it) paleolithic porn. I haven’t researched this much because I found it to be kinda wacky, and my reading time is limited.

Here’s April Nowell interviewed in New Scientist (courtesy of Slate)

https://slate.com/technology/2012/11/prehistoric-pornographic-art-venus-statues-and-other-cave-art-werent-paleolithic-pin-ups.html

I’m of the school that holds the cultures that carved these were “goddess centered”, and the figurines are tributes to that end.

Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
2 years ago

@ Kupo:

Debug?!?!? I thought y’all stopped doing that, went to “change the documentation and call the bug a ‘feature’ “

kupo
kupo
2 years ago

@Weird Eddy
That’s just for tge hard bugs. If it’s a typographical error we just file a minimum of 3 tickets, have at least 8 planning meetings about it, and eventually close it as “will not fix.”

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
2 years ago

@kupo

Do we work for the same company?

Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
2 years ago

@snowberry – I’m also really disappointed to find that out about Nina Paley. Fuckin’ TERFs.

Thanks for letting me know, I’ll change the category of ‘Sita Sings the Blues’ in my head to ‘an impressive accomplishment, done by a shitty person.’ :/

Moon Custafer
Moon Custafer
2 years ago

@Kupo:

I don’t (and I don’t comment); but if I’m reading a description, I like to to have some idea of what the person giving the description actually means by their word choice.

kupo
kupo
2 years ago

Maybe, Victorious Parasol!

Also you would be surprised how often a bug is actually a feature! I’ve had many conversations that went like this:

Dev: “are you sure you want it this way? It feels broken.”
PM/PO/UX: “yes. Our customers use this in a very specific way and while you can feasibly make it do the broken feeling thing, our customers won’t. Our customers *want* it this way.”
Dev: “…alright”

2 months later

Support: “customers are saying it’s broken.”
Dev: “wait, they’re using it like that? PM said they never would!”
Support: “I just did a database query and 80% of customers use it this way.”
Dev: 🤦🏻‍♀️

kupo
kupo
2 years ago

@Moon Custafer
Ok, so what do you want, exactly? You want language to stop evolving because you feel out of the loop when you encounter a new usage?

Personally if I don’t immediately understand a new term or construction I just observe how it’s used. That’s the most natural way to learn. Sometimes I’ll google it, but often that just leads to urban dictionary which seems to be mostly joke entries anymore.

Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
2 years ago

‘an impressive accomplishment, done by a shitty person.’

I fear I’ve a LOT of art in my collection that would fit there.

One of my favorite tunes is “Prodigal Daughter” by Michelle Shocked… now, I don’t know her personally, and I know only a bit about her catalog of work,so I’m not saying she’s necessarily a “terrible person”… but now everytime that song comes down the playlist, I hear that rant….

I get some solace from what Anita Sarkeesian said, (paraphrasing — my memory is fucked) “It’s possible to be critical of media we love, and it’s ok to love media we’re critical of….”

re: language evolution. When my son was 10-12, I was VERY critical of his grammar and diction. He spent about two months collecting information, evidence and examples of language and pronunciation evolution in an attempt to school me. I learned… and what I learned is that even if the culture is changing and I feel “left behind”, it’s a normal progression of the culture and I need to accept it.

Kiwiwriter
Kiwiwriter
2 years ago

That was a Bingo card of junior fascist/incel/conspiracy theory jargon.

Moon Custafer
Moon Custafer
2 years ago

@ Kupo, Weird (and tired of trump lints) Eddie:

OK, I’m not explaining myself well, so I’ll stop digging.

Hippodameia
Hippodameia
2 years ago

Snowberry, I’m so sorry. I wouldn’t have posted the link if I’d known – and thank you for letting me know.

Citerior Motive
Citerior Motive
2 years ago

It won’t be crochet, which was invented relatively late, but it might be nålebinding or sprang, two much older textile technologies.

Hippodameia
Hippodameia
2 years ago

I asked David to delete my comment, which he kindly did. Thank you, David! Everyone, I apologize for linking to a fucking TERF.

Dalillama
Dalillama
2 years ago

Some people think it might represent a patterned hood, .

Some people are deeply committed to erasing black people.

Snowberry
Snowberry
2 years ago

@Hippodamiea: I aim to displease. 😕 If that’s the current policy, then might want to delete my link as well, since I linked to another site by the same TERF so people wouldn’t have to take my word for it.

I wasn’t suggesting that people shouldn’t enjoy that particular piece of artistic ingenuity for what it was, just warning people who weren’t aware of that about the risks of further exploring her work.

@doomcup: I don’t think it’s any worse, only that in the past it rarely mattered. Hardly anyone knew about the awful stuff done/believed by creators/performers, or if they did know it was mainstream, or if it wasn’t mainstream then it was rude to imply it was anything more than a harmless eccentricity.

tim gueguen
2 years ago

I’m not very hip, so when I see the term thicc I think of videos like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ly4Z281daQ

Poor doggo.

Hippodameia
Hippodameia
2 years ago

No, it’s not policy – I just felt really uncomfortable leaving an uncritical link to her work up.

You weren’t criticizing the art or the people who liked it. I’m seriously disappointed in the artist but I’d rather know than not know.