By David Futrelle
So. Some of the dudes on MGTOW.com were having a discussion of “dating health risks” a while back, and naturally the talk turned quickly to semen.
Because of course it did. Men (Ostensibly) Going Their Own Way are nearly as obsessed with semen as their incel brothers in misogyny are — specifically with the Chad semen that they’re convinced lingers on for months in the assorted orifices of women who have sex with men other than them, i.e., the vast majority of women.
“Even if a chick doesn’t have any STDs,” wrote a regular MGTOW.com commenter called Sky-O.
There is no way to test to find out how many loads she swallowed before you get a chance to kiss her.
Seriously.
No way to know how much semen was in her mouth before you kiss her.
You might wonder why that’s something a Man (Ostensibly) Going His Own Way would care about, since he’s (Ostensibly) Going Hus Own Way and all that, but most MGTOWs seem to think that it’s fine to have sex with the women they’re (Ostensibly) Going Their Own Way from so long as they treat these women with the appropriate level of disdain.
So that’s part of the reason for this fixation. The other is that most MGTOWs really do seem to believe that semen leaves behind some of hidden residue on and in women that essentially never goes away. So if you kiss a woman who isn’t a virgin, you are essentially kissing every dick that has ever been there before you.
And these dudes just can’t stop thinking about this. Literally.
“Usually my first thought when talking with any potential partner is ‘whose cum residue is on her teeth?’” a commenter called xeonon confessed, “Immediate turn off. Can’t kiss them, forget licking them … .”
Your first thought? Seriously?
Whose “cum residue” is on her TEETH?
Dude. DUDE. DUUUUUUDE. Dude.
So I guess we can add teeth to the long list of body parts that MGTOWs really don’t seem to understand.
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Z&T, it doesn’t matter what kind of onions you use. All onions are evil and disgusting, and when I’m Supreme Chief Dictator Emperor Potentate of Earth they’ll be banned.
@ tim g,
Counterpoint: Onions are good for the blood. Source: My grandma 🙂
These gentlemen are psychiatrically ill and should seek help–before they hurt somebody.
@Z&T: Onions kick righteous arse!
@Valentin: I feel you, about the the saliva and germ stuff. I had a fear of germs, many years ago. I worked as a checkout clerk at a supermarket. I had to touch people’s hands, handle money, etc. I used to douse my hands with window cleaner after touching people’s hands. Naturally, this dried out my skin, and probably made the skin on my hands more vulnerable to infection.
For awhile, I also had a fear of contracting mad cow disease. Even though, it’s extremely rare in the US. I didn’t eat red meat for nearly 2 weeks. Then, my love of cheeseburgers (so American, I know) won out.
I’m now on a low dose of an SSRI. I think it helps.
@dormousing_it
I was trying to get some kind of diagnosis for depersonalisation symptoms but I’m really struggling, because our health care system is not so good and they are under pressure so they only chose the most serious cases to refer to the psychological team, and also because I am at sea it is hard to get appointments and feedback. I was seeing a therapist about other issues, privately, which costs approx $60 for one hour, but he can’t diagnose or give any medicines, but he written a referral letter for me, which the doctor ignored. So I am not sure what to do. I don’t feel like I need any medicine but I really feel like I would like some diagnosis for the depersonalisation and for some other things, it will give me some kind of clear look on the situation. But I’m stuck really. I think maybe to go for a private consultation abroad when I get home, but I am not sure how to do that.
Edit: touching hands I can agree! shaking hands makes me feel so gross.
can we not?
OT: Happy New Year to everyone! I wish the best for everyone this year. ?
Happy New Year from California!
@Z&T I love onions (and leeks and garlic and chives) but I’m not a fan of onion rings. Question: if the onions are choped, why do they have to be rings?
Even further off topic, happy 2019 everyone. I’m hoping Time Magazine’s Person of the Yearwill be Robert Mueller.
Happy New Year, Mammotheers!
All the best to you for 2019, Mammotheers – may it consign Trump and Brexit to the dustbin of history, confound all AGW denialists, MRAs and white supremacists and right-wing extremists everywhere, and bring us all closer to a world where people get the food, shelter, education and healthcare – esp. reproductive (abortion rights in Ireland, yay!) – that they need. Hey, a person can hope! 🙂
Happy New Year, everyone!
Down here, in the non-existent continent country with made-up animals, we are 22 hours into 2019 and nothing horrendous has happened yet. Except the weather, which is reeeaalllllyyy hot.
opposablethumbs has the wishlist covered up there, I think, so I’ll just add that I hope everybody has a good year, with health, safety, and happiness at maximum levels.
When I was a kid in the fourth grade, we had a dentist come in to talk to us about oral hygiene. She said that if you use your fingernail and scrape the front of your tooth, you can get some of the plaque off, and this is what brushing is supposed to also do.
To this day, I still do that on occasion.
I wonder if some of their misogyny is actually a sort of homophobia taken to a bizarre extreme.
At any rate, taking their basic premise further:
• Actually, a woman is initially created from an egg cell and a sperm cell. If you touch any woman in any way at all, you’re essentially touching her daddy’s jizz!
• Actually, that’s how every human being is made – if you touch any human being at all, you’re essentially touching their daddy’s jizz!
• Actually, that’s how you came into being too, so your tongue in your mouth is essentially your own daddy’s jizz that you’re sucking on all the time!!!
(I started all the bulleted sentences with “Actually” to make them more MGTOW-readable.)
I don’t think so. I think it is toxic masculinity and the idea that a man owns a woman. And a woman should be totally his and not another man’s. If she was with another man and has this so called “residue” these monsters feel lile they cant totally own her and that is insulting to their masculinity and sense of entitlement. they are told and they totally believe that they should own a woman, who is exclusive to them. It is quite simply the typical belief that women are objects. They are not afraid of the “residue” because it came from the other man, but because it is on “their woman”.
Edit – this is why it is nothing to do with mental illness or a phobia of dirt or germs. It is just simple toxic masculinity and entitlement ?
I almost never admit this, but i feel the same way about saliva and the thing that makes a nose runny. My stomach is churning just thinking about it. I sometimes have real trouble brushing my teeth because of it. The second i become aware of the process i want to set my head on fire.
Also, yeah no, mras are not misogynistic piles of turds because of mental illness or psychiatric issues or anything like that. They are just people being terrible.
I fell down the dark r/mgtow rabbit hole and one post asking whether this guy should donate to a sperm bank came up. All answers were obviously ‘No’ because women, especially single women, shouldn’t ever be allowed ever to have children without men, ever. Because single moms are evil tools of destruction but also it removes them completely from the picture.. And they don’t like that. They want women to need them while also being content in never needing women ever.
I thought they would rather have it be that women who do want children wouldn’t bother these men with it going down the sperm bank route but guess not. Mgtow do not advocate for men to ever be with women, including having kids. But women who do want kids should be punished anyway..? One poster went on to describe how women and their bodies are essentially useless while their sperm is everything and creates life. And women are stupid for believing that they create and carry life.
I got the impression that mgtow would prefer to have women as a whole not want kids, families and all that while being forced into it by them in some sick power fantasy so they can always have the final say.
Seriously, how does David handle all this without needing two 6 month vacations.. It’s so depressing reading these guys’ opinions about half of the species