By David Futrelle
I suppose I should begin my telling you what the dogpill is, in case you don’t already know. And I should probably apologize in advance, because things are about to get really, really gross.
So. “The dogpill” is the notion — popular amongst incels and, to a lesser extent, among MGTOWs — that women are generally such depraved creatures that a significant portion of them would prefer to have sex with actual dogs rather than with all those nice young fellows they’ve put in their respective friend zones. It goes without saying that incels, ranking lower than even nice guys in every woman’s ranking of possible sex partners, can never hope to compete with even the mangiest of curs.
And no, the dogpill isn’t just a trolly joke amongst incels. While they certainly do joke about it, it’s pretty clear that a lot of them really do spend time feeling sorry for themselves because they’ve convinced themselves a significant portion of the female population is regularly fucking dogs. (Incels have similar theories about women and horses.)
Some incels also devote a great deal of attention to trying to figure out just how exactly these mysterious females determine when they’ll fuck men and when they’ll turn instead to their beasts.
For one commenter on the Incels.is forums, it all comes down to Chad Availability. But women, he adds, also distinguish between sexy Chad dogs and much less appealing tiny dogs.
For another Incels.is commenter called Uglyman, it all comes down to analyzing the ultimate purpose of sex.
“When a woman fucks a man,” he uglymansplains,
she gets turned on by him because subconsciously she wants him to imprengate her. She might have protected sex but the reproductive instinct is still there no matter how many contraceptives she takes. A woman wanting to have sex with man=she wants his genes, she wants to risk pregnancy.
I … don’t think that’s exactly true, my man, but continue.
Femoids will never have sex with incels because incels are not worthy of passing down their genes. In other words, they won’t fuck you because they don’t want your children. Being attractive as a man is all about being daddy material whether she realizes it or not.
I’m pretty sure a much bigger reason women won’t fuck you is that they can tell you’re the kind of dude who goes around calling women “femoids,” but whatever, he’s about to get to the dog part.
Now, dogs, cats, other women, objects, they will not get a woman pregnant. She fucks these things for the pleasure of it, it’s basically kinky masturbation. Heterosexual sex for a woman=reproduction, sex with anything else=masturbation.
So dogs are just big furry vibrators that can lick their own balls?
Comparing yourself to dogs and objects is redundant because you are judged on completely different stardards comapred to these things. It’s like apples and oranges. You are not competing with dogs, you are competing with other men and you are losing because your genes aren’t worth being passed on.
I don’t know from genes, but, again, I’m pretty sure the real reason women aren’t fucking you because your heads are filled to overflowing with this toxic mixture of misogyny and self-hatred.
I mean, come on, dudes, get the fuck over this shit. There’s more to life than sitting around feeling sorry for yourself and getting jealous of the imaginary sex lives of dogs.
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So, it’s easier for these guys to believe women would rather get shagged by a dog than to take a good look at themselves and their misogyny.
Good god-a-mighty.
As for the “Heterosexual sex for a woman=reproduction” bullfeathers, no. Sometimes sex is about pair-bonding, making your partner happy, working off tension, celebrating … basically as many reasons as there are hetero women, I suspect.
Some things get nothing more than this from me:
*SIGH*?
That’s all I got for this one.
they’re good dogs Brent
These guys… have they ever actually spoken to a woman? If nothing else, presumably they have mothers, unless they were raised by wolves. Wolves who refused to have sex with them…
sigh I wish I could still feel sorry for those guys. I know having low self-esteem can be a bitch and many of them probably had fuck-up lives. Hell, I was dangerously close to fall into their mindset once in my life, but… at this point, it’s like Event Horizon of hatred, self-pity and misogyny.
If I could time-travel, I would definitely go back to 10 minutes ago, when I didn’t know what the “dogpill” was. I wish I could unread this.
Actually, “The Imaginary Sex Lives of Dogs” would make a good gimmick band name.
As for the rest of this:
https://giphy.com/gifs/archer-nope-b4pPnoO1QDd1C
To repeat what I said from the last thread: Endgame. What do these guys envision? I’d ask them but I’m afraid they’d actually tell me.
They note the thing that is true. Which is that women would rather spend time with their pets than date a creepy misogynist. Then they just have to project their own hangups onto the situation. They’re obsessed with, so they assume that sex must be the reason that dogs are a more appealing companion than them.
There. My attempt to explain this extremely fucked up trend.
I WOULD rather fuck a dog than an incel – in a situation where I was forced to choose at gunpoint. Otherwise I happily choose neither, because I would rather go without sex entirely if that’s the only two options.
I’m so glad these guys are taking themselves out of the gene pool.
I can only imagine what sort of stuff turns up in these… creatures’ porn searches. The ASPCA should maybe look into this.
You know how you could always find the creepiest, most sexist shithead in your high school? You look for the guys who were spreading the rumor about that one girl fucking her dog/ having her dog lick peanut butter off of her.
There was always one young woman who would be targeted with this story, usually overweight, usually unpopular. And the guys spreading that tale? Those guys were always the same ones always ready with a “get me a sammich” or a ‘joke’ about “two black eyes”.
These losers have just clung to that high school rumor and spread it to encompass all women.
Please stop projecting your fetishes onto women incels k thx bye
NOPE. Speaking as one who’s never wanted that, consciously or otherwise, from man OR dog, I say that off is the direction in which I wish this guy to fuck.
And he can take all his fuckheaded kin with him, too.
Brain bleach:
:blep:
I apologise in advance if this is a little heavy handed, but this is not quite so much a response to you in particular as it is to society.
Anyways…
I just gotta ask one question.
What THE FUCK happened to integrity?
Isn’t that supposed to be the manliest of man feels? Aren’t all the greatest cowboys and strongmen supposed to be stoic, unassailable, heroes of strong character?
No, if anything, the last two years have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that “these guys” are the most infantile of people who lack a single shred of character. They’ve been throwing a hissy fit of rage, not because they got spanked for doing bad things, but merely at the suggestion that they should not be above discipline. Because, despite #metoo, despite #blacklivesmatter, despite lgbtq and especially trans activism, cishet white male bigots are still protected from consequences. The powerful (and often just the average everyday joe) still get away with discrimination, they still get away with rape, they still get away with murder, and minorities are still struggling to attain basic human rights. And cishet white men are still upset about getting their feefees hurt.
“These guys” have never faced discipline in their entire lives, have never been hurt in a real way, the kind of hurt that people who are trampled on by all of society feel every day. They’re screaming louder than anyone else because they’re spoiled brats, and trying to feel sorry for them only makes things worse. We should have never even tried in the first place.
I think I need to go lie down now. No, not with a dog. I actually have a cat pressed against one of my shins.
Even if much of this is trolling or pissing into the wind, it’s still disgusting and disturbing.
@Dormousing_it:
I think I’ll grab my own kitty and do likewise. And just to disappoint these creepy, CREEPY mofos, it will be kept strictly platonic, as is in fact normal for women with cats.
Pagan Reader, the brain bleach is much appreciated.
Being raised by wolves would’ve brought them out way ahead of where they ended up. Hell, being raised by Audio-Animatronic wolves at a Disney park would be at least one step up.
Talk about projection. The average incel is much more likely to be engaging in sex with non humans than the average woman, not just much, but MUCH and then some.
I provide no evidence for this, as they do not for their ridiculous claims.
I swear these guys are just posting their fantasies as truth.
I have a son. He’s two and a half. After reading one of these spectacular pieces, I always watch him sleeping, or playing with little plastic toys, or watching PG Masks, and think to myself, “My God, how do I protect you from turning into a dirtbag like this? You seem fine now. What do I need to do in order to make sure you never think most women are having sex with dogs in order to avoid you?”
(Also, now I kind of want/not want to read incel reviews of the kids shows and books my children like. I’m sure that Pete the Cat, with his optimistic attitude about small problems, would drive them crazy.)
I certainly don’t want to have sex with an incel, who is by definition a horrible, not to mention unsexy, human. Nor do I want to have sex with a dog — that would be abuse of an animal and completely unsexy to me, not to mention dangerous. When diseases jump the animal-human barrier they can be devastating to the human. So no to either.
On the other hand, I’ve adopted several animals. I’m the kitty mom of two beautiful, smart, intrepid furry children, one of whom is too young to know he’s adopted. I’m waiting for the right time to tell him.
In summation: Sex with incels — no! Sex with animals — no! Adoption of animals — yes!
@Jane Done
Ha, ha! Nah, these guys can’t even be bothered to pretend
they have integrity.
Which reminds me that an abusive ex-boyfriend of mine claimed to have a “code” that governed his behavior. He didn’t specify what that code was. My thought: It must be a secret code, the kind that requires a decoder ring.
I was pretty thrilled to find that my boyfriend — who became my boyfriend a few months after I kicked that abusive ex-boyfriend to the curb — has a conscience! He doesn’t need to be told how to be a decent human being!
I have 4 sons. The youngest is nearly 7, the oldest is 17. It’s hard to tell with the younger ones, but we’ve clearly done something right with the eldest and seem to have done something right with the 2nd eldest as well (he’s 13 and has severe ADHD + anger issues which he has worked so *hard* to improve in the last few years, but he also keeps his thoughts very private, so it’s not always easy to read him). My 17 year old is absolutely baffled by these guys – their thinking is totally alien to him.
It helps they have a father who is mostly not a misogynistic jerk – he occasionally has his moments, but I think it’s nearly impossible for anyone growing up in our toxic society to not have occasional things they screw up or don’t really get.
We have regular (age appropriate) discussions about consent. They know they can come to us and ask anything they want without fear (the 13 year old prefers to ask his older brother at this point, but the 17 year old regularly comes to me with some of the weirdest questions).
They know my husband & I are partners and the only reason dad doesn’t do more around the house is because he physically can’t (he’s seriously disabled & refuses to admit it, so he still does more than he really should).
Honestly, I’m trying to think of specific things we’ve done and I can’t come up with anything else.
@Von Ragnar
I can understand wanting to have compassion for everyone, but those who have none for others don’t deserve any themselves. Society already has a problem with leaping to defend any straight white guy in a scenario where anyone else wouldn’t get nearly as much sympathy, and incels are no different, there will be plenty of people who want to excuse them because apparently the greatest travesty in life is when men aren’t sufficiently privileged. I don’t wanna accuse you of that mindset, but these cretinous parasites don’t even deserve you wanting to feel sorry for them.
Take it from me, I know exactly how they feel, and that is why I can never feel sorry for them, nor will I ever want to. As a 29 year old male who has never had a girlfriend, my life is nothing more than an endless cycle of thinking I can’t possibly feel any more worthless, and then somehow feeling even more worthless. I can guarantee you I have it a lot worse than most of these kids (some are as young as 16!) and that has only made me sympathize with them less, not more. Because knowing exactly what they are going through has only given me a deeper understanding of exactly how unacceptable their beliefs and actions are. It’s really not hard to accept some responsibility for your failures, or to accept that you aren’t entitled to sex, or to not treat any half baked theory you pulled out of your ass as an undeniable fact.
The bottom line is, incels are lazy, immature, entitled, hateful children, and we shouldn’t WANT to feel sorry for them in spite of all that, just because they have some problems. We ALL have problems, many of which are much worse than theirs, but we don’t use that as an excuse to be repulsive bitter scumbags. Where are our medals for being decent human beings?