Categories
alpha males bad math bad science body shaming boner rage chad thundercock incels men who should not ever be with women ever misogyny penises

Where all the dicks are below average: Incels break new ground in penis math

Does he have Biggus Dickus Energy?

By David Futrelle

The incel community is the only place I know of where having a small dick gives you bragging rights. Amongst the so-called involuntary celibate, dudes can gain a certain backwards prestige by presenting themselves as the most hopeless of the bunch, the kind of guy that’s the least likely to ever score with a human female.

And what is more unattractive to a woman, these guys figure, than a guy with a tiny dick? (Don’t bother answering, ladies; these guys aren’t interested in data that doesn’t come from their own asses.)

But the incel community’s weird fetishization of smaller-than-average dicks creates problems for incels with dicks average or even slightly above average-sized. If your dick is just a regular dick, after all, that removes one big excuse for why the ladies don’t want to have anything to do with you.

The solution? Pretend that normal-sized dicks (that is, dicks in the vicinity of 5.17 inches in length, according to SCIENCE) are small dicks … compared to the huge dicks that incels are convinced most ladies see in the flesh on an almost daily basis.

Call it Incel Penis Math. Here’s an explanation, from one of the most prolific posters on the Incels.is forums:

A 7 inch penis is small to women because they only fuck chad/tyrone Thread startermylifeistrash Start dateSunday at 3:49 AM mylifeistrash mylifeistrash Overlord - Sunday at 3:49 AM#1 statistically, only 5% or less of men have a real 7 inch penis. And statistically, most women will never experience a penis under 7' inches because they only fuck top tier men. So yeah, a penis that is still statistically a "big dick" is still tiny to women.

Er, dudes, you know that unless he’s got a full-grown Robert Plant in his pants, women can’t actually tell how big a dude’s dick is before his pants come off? And only a tiny percentage of men have dicks seven inches or longer — it’s closer to 2 percent than to the 5 percent Mr. Mylifeistrash claims.

And guess what? It doesn’t even matter. The overwhelming majority of women who have sex with men are happy with their partners’ penis size, though statistically speaking roughly half of these men have penises that are smaller than average. Trans men who don’t get bottom surgery — and that’s most of them — literally have no penises at all, yet they have sex.

There haven’t been any studies on this that I know of, but I feel fairly confident that most (straight and bi) women would much rather have sex with a guy with a tiny dick (or no dick) than with the sort of guy who goes around getting mad because he thinks women only have sex with “Chads” and “Tyrones” (gotta love that incel racism) with dicks bigger than Biggus Dickus.

We Hunted the Mammoth is independent and ad-free, and relies entirely on readers like you for its survival. If you appreciate our work, please send a few bucks our way! Thanks!

58 Comments
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments
Pie
Pie
6 years ago

@Jo

Firstly, inches? That’s some American thing isn’t it? For the sake of readers in counties with sane measurements, can you give lengths in metric as well please?

1.778*10^-1m. You’re welcome!

Fun fact, according to Andrew Anglin, this means that Angela Merkel lays her hands on at least 1km of cock a year. Imagine that!

Since we now learn that Chad has a huge penis. I’m wondering about tall, handsome, charming men who have average sized penises. Do they not become Chads? Do they hide away in shame?

Probably they don’t exist. Like women who don’t spend every waking moment riding Chads; just lies made up by the gynocracy to try and trick incels.

@Dvärghundspossen

But yeah, as I’ve said before, the vagina is stretchy but it’s no Tardis. There is such a thing as bigger than is practical.

Lots of lateral stretch, much, much less longitudinal stretch.

Wetherby
Wetherby
6 years ago

I actually read a little anonymous story in the Guardian a while ago by a guy with a huge dick (they have those little anonymous sex and relationship stories regularly). He wrote that so many guys have this idea that having a huge dick is great and is gonna fill you with confidence, but he had mostly felt really awkward and anxious about his when younger.

Two partners of mine have described sex with someone with an eye-wateringly colossal schlong, and neither of them made it sound especially appetising. Not least because the owners of the appendages in question were all too self-conscious and apologetic about how big they were.

And I’ve seen a porn film in which the owner of the kind of equipment that incels believe to be normal had to use his hand as a kind of spacer, presumably to prevent it from going all the way in and potentially hurting his partner. It looked more like some kind of lambing operation on a farm than anything even vaguely erotic.

I forget where I read this, but there was a recent study where women were asked to examine a series of dildos and pick the one that they considered to be the most optimal size – and the one most favoured (I seem to recall by a fair margin) was six and a half inches long and five inches round. In other words, only very slightly larger than average – and that was considered ideal, so presumably most average guys would have done just fine as well.

Seraph4377
6 years ago

@Jo

The average erect penis is 13.12 cm long. These jokers think that a penis that’s 17.78 inches will be too small for most women.

I remember reading an amusing fanfic story that apparently confused cm for inches. Instead of giving the hero a penis that was merely in the 99th percentile (21 cm – 8.27 inches), the writer gave him a penis that would have stabbed the heroine in the heart (21 inches – 53.34 cm).

Seraph4377
6 years ago

Dammit, missed the edit window. 17.78 cm.

Cat Mara
6 years ago

Regarding the choice of image David picked to illustrate this post, apparently the Ancient Greeks (yeah, I know, the character is supposed to be a Roman aristocrat but they were big-time Greek culture groupies) considered large penises not desirable but hilarious. Indeed, their plays usually had a few comic interludes where actors wearing giant gag penises would chase each other around, presumably to the accompaniment of the Ancient Greek equivalent of the Benny Hill “Yakety Sax” music. You had to be there, I suppose.

(The thing the discerning Ancient Greek looked for in a willy, it seems, was a long foreskin. This was the aesthetic ideal for them– well, for the dudes, at least, because most of their attitudes towards women were pretty regressive. A naked penis was not obscene but an exposed glans was. It’s one of the reasons why the Greeks, never exactly well-disposed towards “barbarians” generally, particularly had it in for cultures like the Egyptians and the Phoenicians who practiced circumcision)

Robert
Robert
6 years ago

I remember reading a book of life advice written in the 1970s. What the author said about penis size: “it’s become a tiresome obsession”.

Forty plus years later, it still is.

Personal note: what really puzzles me is the fascination with *flaccid* size. Why would you care how fast a car looks when it’s parked?

Full Metal Ox
Full Metal Ox
6 years ago

I realize that this may ruin some folks’…um, young adulthood, but 70’s-80’s porn star Long Dong Silver (of Clarence Thomas hearings infamy) was wearing an extender; is nothing sacred?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Dong_Silver

Also, I’ll just leave these here for interested parties:

http://www.inches-to-cm.com/

http://www.cm-to-inches.com/

Wetherby
Wetherby
6 years ago

Personal note: what really puzzles me is the fascination with *flaccid* size. Why would you care how fast a car looks when it’s parked?

Quite aside from anything else, flaccid penises generally give very little indication of what they look like when erect. Some end up broadly the same length but harder and pointing at a different angle, while others increase dramatically in size. Michelangelo’s David is considered to have a penis that’s proportionally quite small, but when ready for action he might well rival Ron Jeremy – there’s no way of knowing.

Daddy longarms
Daddy longarms
6 years ago

So i have no literature to back this up, but show of hands, i dare you to change my mind:

any man out there who’s proud of his large penis is going to be the worst sex of anyone’s life.

If you have a large dick, you have to be really careful with it if you want anyone with a uterus to have a good time.

But i guess anyone who spends a lot of time using other people’s genitals will be pretty bad in bed.

Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
6 years ago

bad day

I’ll leave this

Rabid Rabbit
Rabid Rabbit
6 years ago

@Wetherby

Of course, you have to remember that the Michelangelo David is petrified* (as is clear if you see his expression straight on rather than from below), so his penile disproportion is partly due to his genitals having shrunk in fear.

*Pun intended, and I refuse to apologize.

Ariblester
6 years ago

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile:

These guys don’t even try.

They don’t try working out, they don’t try learning to make small talk, they don’t try improving their diet, they don’t try braces, they don’t try a new haircut, they don’t try changing their socks every day, they don’t try a Meet-Up group.

Looksmaxing is cope tho, when your insufficient canthal tilt or wrist radius automatically nulls your SMV.

(This Is What Incels Actually Believe™)

Also, they don’t ask for advice.

They don’t ask their sisters what women like, they don’t ask their mothers or their aunts or their next-door neighbors.

Consequently, they learn nothing.

And take pointers from the gynocracy? What would they possibly know? They’re holders of the almighty Pussy Pass, they don’t understand what it’s like to be male and involuntarily celibate.

(This Is What Incels Actually Believe™)

And if they continue on this path, they will be lonely forever. I’m pretty sure that life as a 50-year-old incel is even worse than life as a 19-year-old incel. There are no more self-deprecating, hateful jokes left to tell. Nothing’s funny anymore.

Nuh-uh, there’s always the LifeFuel of seeing your fellow strugglers going full ER.

(This Is What Incels Actually Believe™)

When you’re vicious, life’s a drag.

That’s why the Black Pill exists. Also rope.

(This Is What Incels Actually Believe™)

On a more serious note, wasn’t there a discussion a while ago where some commenter pointed out that “improve your physical appearance and get out more” is only a viable strategy when you’re financially secure and in a good headspace, and thus have sufficient free time and motivation to devote to personal grooming and socializing?

Jo
Jo
6 years ago

Also, I’ll just leave these here for interested parties:

http://www.inches-to-cm.com/

And there we have it. Always the minority’s job to work around the majority, always an imposition to ask the majority to make accommodations.

Lukas Xavier
Lukas Xavier
6 years ago

@Ariblester
If they have time to posts incel screeds online, they probably have time to do a load of laundry as well. As for exercise, you don’t need hours in an expensive gym. I started doing ten minutes of simple floor exercises in the morning and I’ve dropped two sizes around the waist as a result.

Sure, there are people who literally can’t do such things for financial/medical/whatever reasons, but I think that for the average incel it’s more a case of them feeling that they shouldn’t have to.

Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
6 years ago

@Lukas Xavier:

I started doing ten minutes of simple floor exercises in the morning and I’ve dropped two sizes around the waist as a result.

How does one do these? With what instructions?

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Jo,

Full Metal Ox also left a centimeters to inches converter which you conveniently ignored. Nobody is trying to make you stop using centimeters.

Aren’t you the same person who got mad that there was a Thanksgiving open thread?

You seem to be really trying hard to be offended here.

Katamount
Katamount
6 years ago

This kind of thinking really does go hand-in-hand with the lack of sex education and ignorance of the actual mechanics involved. It’s the same thing that makes guys think “tight” is the optimal state of the vagina (it isn’t). Or that somehow hitting the cervix feels good (I don’t possess one, but from everything I’ve been told, it’s extremely painful).

And with porn being so widespread and its impact largely unexamined, it’s like there’s a vested market interest in these myths persisting. Which is a scary thought.

Lukas Xavier
Lukas Xavier
6 years ago

@Surplus to Requirements

Nothing too complicated. It’s really just situps, pushups, squats; things like that. I have some basic hand weights for training arms and shoulders, but that’s not required.

I think the important bit is to have a routine that you can do every day without too much trouble or accidentally hurting yourself. Done is better than perfect. You can always add more when you’ve gotten the hang of it.

Obviously, this isn’t going to turn you into an underwear model overnight, but over the course of a year, it makes a difference.

cornychips
cornychips
6 years ago

STORY TIME!

I’m so excited I finally get to tell this story!

A woman friend of mine started online dating a man. After much conversation he told her that he had a hard time long-term dating due to his enormous 13 inch shlong. They had devised a plan that she would purchase a large dildo and practice stretching techniques to prep herself when they finally met up.

After a couple of real life dates they decide to have sex and when he drops his pants, HIS PENIS IS AVERAGE SIZED! She was shocked and taken aback. She wasn’t angry bc he wasn’t huge, but bc he lied. He accused her of being a size queen. When she confronted him about his bullshit he replied, “well, that how I see myself.” W.T.F.

She tried to make it work but couldn’t get past his lie, his defensiveness, nor his inability to even admit the whole thing was weird.

They broke up in a messy way, him gaslighting her and then giving her a parting gift. It was a self-help book on how to accept people for who they are because “she needed real help.” Piece of shit entitled dude.

That was ten years ago and that story is burned into my mind at the fantasy-type reality some of these dudes live in.

Jo
Jo
6 years ago

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Full Metal Ox also left a centimeters to inches converter which you conveniently ignored.

Conveniently? How exactly does that affect my reply? Hint: It’s irrelevant, that’s why I left it out.

Nobody is trying to make you stop using centimeters.

Straw man. I did not at any point suggest anyone was. I originally wrote (as part of a longer convent that addressed several issues) a light-hearted request that a blog with an international audience should not use only the measurements of one country.

Aren’t you the same person who got mad that there was a Thanksgiving open thread?

You seem to be really trying hard to be offended here.

So you’re dragging up some gentle teasing I made of Celebrate Conquering Native Americans Day in another thread and I’m the thin skinned one?

If my request had been ignored, I’d have shrugged and moved on. Happens all the time, no biggie. But I’m going to push back against a passive aggressive ‘it’s your job to adapt to the majority’ because that should never go unchallenged.

Ariblester
6 years ago

Lukas Xavier
December 20, 2018 at 8:15 am

@Ariblester
If they have time to posts incel screeds online, they probably have time to do a load of laundry as well. As for exercise, you don’t need hours in an expensive gym. I started doing ten minutes of simple floor exercises in the morning and I’ve dropped two sizes around the waist as a result.

Sure, there are people who literally can’t do such things for financial/medical/whatever reasons, but I think that for the average incel it’s more a case of them feeling that they shouldn’t have to.

Fair points, though I wasn’t referring to incels specifically with my “on a more serious note” paragraph; I just remembered that the resulting discussion (which involved non-incels in the comments section of this site) got pretty heated.

But yes, the main problem with incels is the massive sense of aggrieved entitlement that they carry around that leads them to reject even the merest hint that they are responsible for their own unhappiness.

Jo
Jo
6 years ago

@cornychips

Love that story. I shouldn’t be surprised at what some people are capable of, but somehow I am…

I’m trying to figure out how he could think that was going to end well. Maybe he only had one previous partner and she had no experience with penises and her reaction had convinced him he was huuuuge. Or perhaps he was testing your friend’s susceptibility to gaslighting? But there are plenty of ways to gaslight someone so why choose an approach that risks ruining your first sexual encounter with a new partner?

cornychips
cornychips
6 years ago

@Jo

I even asked her if she did the deed with him after his “grand unveiling”. She said ‘yes’ and then shrugged. Clearly it was a night to remember. /s

I do wonder at his motivation as well. The story she told me involved lots of gaslighting . So yeah, grooming behavior for an abusive relationship? But the “you need to buy the huuuugest dildo you can buy to practice on” seems weirdly fetishy. And yeah, what the fuck did he think was gonna happen??!!! So many questions!!!

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Uh, yeah. An American blog is going to use American terminology, a British blog is going to use British terminology etc. What’s the big deal?

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Ok. I made a reply three hours ago, it went to a 503 error and showed up just now when I refreshed the page. Sorry for the randomness.