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Redditor: There’s a plot to eliminate the white race, which I know about because my girlfriend left me for a black guy

Each night I ask the stars up above, why must I be a racist in love?

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By David Futrelle

It’s not hard to see the sexual insecurities lurking not-so-far beneath the far-right obsession with the ludicrous notion of “white genocide” — the idea that whites in western countries are in danger of being “replaced” by black and brown people through immigration, interracial marriages and “outbreeding.”

It’s why racist right wingers are so obsessed with interracial “cuckold porn” and The Gateway Pundit can’t stop talking about the “virile” young men in the migrant caravan. It’s why so many racists lose it when they see happy, attractive interracial couples in commercials for Cheerios and Hanes sweatshirts.

But these insecurities are rarely so baldly expressed as in a recent post I found in the Conspiracy subreddit, in which a young man rails about the supposed “campaign to eliminate the white race” that he apparently discovered … after his girlfriend left him for a black guy.

“White genocide is real,” explains pepe_lepen.

[T]here is an active campaign to eliminate the white race. This is done mainly via politics and media. They shove pornography down our throats, especially black on white cuckold pornography to normalize interracial sex. They have men who look like women to distract us from reproducing with women. Even in commercials they try to normalize interracial breeding.

After this, er, media critique, he lets this slip:

This stuff actually happens my ex girlfriend left me last year because she was suddenly “interested in black guys”.

Dude. DUDE.

Your girlfriend didn’t leave you because she saw a cute mixed-race couple in a cereal ad. Or because she watches too much cuckold porn. I’m guessing she just got sick of your racist ass.

But, alas, pepe doesn’t elaborate on his romantic misfortune, and instead returns to ranting.

Everything white people do are demonized, to make us less of a person. We are branded racists and bigots, and are voices are left unheard.

Gosh, why would anyone brand you a bigot?

In intellectual circles our speech is chilled, remember James Damore from Google? The fact is, any attempt at white genocide is futile because white people are the creators (and keepers) of civilization. We will not be replaced.

Dude, you were replaced.

Also, dude, you’re just a teensy bit of a hypocrite.

Going through pepe’s comment history on Reddit, I discovered that 1) he’s not a troll but someone who posts shit like this all the time and 2) his anger at interracial porn only seems to involve porn in which black men have sex with white women.

Indeed, some eight months before posting his racist tirade to the Conspiracy subreddit he posted a porn clip from ghettogaggers.com to the AbusePorn2 subreddit featuring a black woman engaged in rough and sometimes humiliating sex with two sadistic white men.

Pepe gave his post the title “Ebony Throats Matter.” Because of course he did.

Some white people should be replaced. Not because they’re white, but because they’re just really shitty people.

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Dormousing_it
Dormousing_it
6 years ago

@Troubelle:

The last two lines of your poem…so true! Only the grossly overprivileged could come to this guy’s conclusion.

@Professor Fate:

RE: Hapsburg’s Jaw. I know someone who suffers from it. When he was in his late 20s, he had surgery to correct it. It was a long and painful recovery. I guess it’s a relatively rare malady in the US, because he was asked if he minded interns being present during some of his exams. His was a teaching case.

Rabid Rabbit
Rabid Rabbit
6 years ago

@Moon_Custafer

Nasty Nazis II – Trouble in the Fatherland:

“O no, Goering has stolen my girl! Again!”

Oh God. You just made me realize that somewhere out there, there undoubtedly exists “Hitler cuckolding Goebbels” fanfic.

Gijoel
Gijoel
6 years ago

And Pete Shelly has died. Damn it. 🙁

Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
6 years ago

@Rabid Rabbit:

Oh God. You just made me realize that somewhere out there, there undoubtedly exists “Hitler cuckolding Goebbels” fanfic.

There’ll be fanfic with Goebbels cuckolding Eva Braun. And a comic book. Maybe even an animated short film.

Welcome to the Internet.

Rabid Rabbit
Rabid Rabbit
6 years ago

@Surplus:

True enough. I was just thinking of the “It’s barely outside of reality, since it’s clearly what Mrs. Goebbels wanted” factor, which is clearly true.

That being said, does it count as cuckolding if it’s the woman who’s being kicked out of bed? I don’t know the rules of these things, let alone the Nazi rules.

Jo
Jo
6 years ago

Yeah, porn sites are like any other websites, they use analytics to try to figure out what users enjoy and promote that to encourage engagement and return visits. So if he’s seeing lots of cuckold porn, that’s most likely because he’s sought it out and spent time watching it in the past.

Everything white people do are [sic] demonized, to make us less of a person.

Yoga classes? Glamping? NASCAR? Microbreweries? Farmers’ markets?

All demonised.

Rei Malebario
Rei Malebario
6 years ago

Find somebody who identifies as a member of “The White Race” and you’ll have found a white racist.

Quentin Long
6 years ago

sez rei malebario: “Find somebody who identifies as a member of ‘The White Race’ and you’ll have found a white racist.”

Mmmm… maybe not so much identifying as, as going waaay the fuck out of their way to make sure everybody and their dog knows for certain that they’re a member of The! White!! Race!!! ? I mean, identify as White—I just don’t make a snowflaky fuss over it, is all.

cubist
6 years ago

sez rei malebario: “Find somebody who identifies as a member of ‘The White Race’ and you’ll have found a white racist.”

Mmmm… maybe not so much identifying as, as going waaay the fuck out of their way to make sure everybody and their dog knows for certain that they’re a member of The! White!! Race!!! ? I mean, identify as White—I just don’t make a snowflaky fuss over it, is all.

cubist
6 years ago

Bleah. That last sentence should start out “I identify as White”. Bloody typoes…

Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
6 years ago

Telltale signs include using the specific pompous phrase “The White Race” or generally making whiteness a major part of your identity. It makes some sense for members of ethnic minorities to identify strongly with their ethnicity (or even just their racial outlook), for the majority not so much.

Kiwiwriter
Kiwiwriter
6 years ago

There was one racist jerk on the now-closed SPLC forum who arrogantly denied that white slaveowners bopped their female help. He said that doing so must have been a “disgusting experience.”

He attributed the army of blacks with white looks to “Ellis Islander types” doing the nasty with black women.

We asked him to prove this fascinating theory. His response was his usual line: Joe Stalin had tried to kidnap captured German civilians in 1945, and mate them with apes, to create a race of super “monkey-men” to fight Stalin’s wars.

We ridiculed that, too.

Moon_custafer
Moon_custafer
6 years ago

@Rabid Rabbit:

Well, rumour has it that German film-star Gustav Fröhlich (best-known today for playing one of the leads in Metropolis) once punched Goering in the face after finding out his fiancée and fellow-performer had cheated on him with the propaganda minister.

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weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Non-racist white Americans can be into their specific ethnicities. Irish-Americans are really Irish folk music and St. Patrick’s day, there are tons of Norwegian and Swedish flags flown alongside American flags in Minnesota front yards, things like that. Being into your whiteness, however, is always the reddest of reddest flags.

Kiwiwriter
Kiwiwriter
6 years ago

Look at the examples of Strom Thurmond and Bull Connor.

Racists by day, miscegenationists by night.

Strom fathered a kid by his black housekeeper. I guess she was real good at vacuuming his shillelagh.

Bull Connor got his nickname when he was Birmingham’s Commissioner of Public Safety, and not for toughness. He slammed through a city ordinance that banned the use of hotels by interracial couples. Within a week after this ordinance went on the books, both the cops and the city’s newspaper of record got tipped off that some white bigshot was bopping a black girl at the hotel.

Cops raided the establishment, joined by the newspaper’s photographers, and found a white bigshot in bed with a black woman all right…Connor himself. He managed to avoid prosecution.

And the resulting sight of him naked led to him becoming named “Bull.” It was a comment on the size of his testicles…

Katamount
Katamount
6 years ago

*sigh* Yeah, this is where white male sexual anxieties cross the line from amusing to disturbing.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: volumes can be written analyzing the love/hate relationship men have with cuckholdry. Former performer Aurora Snow has written several articles on the topic for the Daily Beast over a number of years, going back to at least 2015:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/why-porns-interracial-label-is-racist

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-real-reason-female-porn-stars-dont-shoot-with-black-guys

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-rise-of-racist-porn

It’s just one of the trends in porn that needs to end.

Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
6 years ago

WWTH:

Non-racist white Americans can be into their specific ethnicities. Irish-Americans are really Irish folk music and St. Patrick’s day, there are tons of Norwegian and Swedish flags flown alongside American flags in Minnesota front yards, things like that. Being into your whiteness, however, is always the reddest of reddest flags.

This is actually something I’m curious about, how people from various backgrounds construct their own ethnicity and their place in the world.

For example, it seems to me that oftentimes, English-speaking white people in the US have no ethnic identity other than “white” or “American”, and that people often stretch to identify ethnically with some distant immigrant (or native) ancestors who spoke languages other than English. Some certainly identify as English-American or Anglo-Saxon, but that doesn’t seem to be very popular overall. I could go on to speculate about the reasons for this, but anyway…

This all seems to feed into the idea that “white people have no culture”, and also that being white or European (in a racial sense) is a valid ethnic identity if you got nothing else, and again that “non-hyphenated” Americans are somehow better “assimilated” in America because they have no distracting ethnicity.

Katamount
Katamount
6 years ago

@Lumipuna

Some certainly identify as English-American or Anglo-Saxon, but that doesn’t seem to be very popular overall. I could go on to speculate about the reasons for this, but anyway…

A part of it certainly comes from the rejection of everything English following the Revolution. Just thinking on it from the perspective of a guy born and raised in the seat of English-speaking Canada, a lot of what “culture” meant was loyalty to the Crown. You were nothing if you weren’t Anglican. If you were Catholic, Methodist or Presbyterian, you were suspect in the upper eschelons of Upper Canada. No way you could be part of the Family Compact. The Lower Canadian Chateau Clique was the same thing, only you had to be a French-speaking Catholic.

And that’s literally what culture was in Ontario until WWII. Orange Order Anglicanism that was fervently pro-British and hostile to Francophone influence. It’s only after the war ended that the Orange Order declined, we got our first Jewish mayor of Toronto and the diversity that the city is known for really picked up. Without the religion, what’s left? Rampant consumerism, apparently. Brand identification. Tim Hortons. Maple Leafs. I mean, I’ve considered what “Canadian culture” is from a pluralistic perspective, but it’s not as simple as just a single faith, a single language and a single set of customs.

Just this week, I had my yearly MRI and part as part of the questionnaire, I was ask to volunteer my self-identification of race, gender, sexuality etc. for study purposes. I was torn between “English-European” and “English-Canadian/American.” Ultimately, I checked “English-Canadian/American” because I don’t have the ties to England, Scotland or Germany despite being descended from all three.

That’s not to say that Canadians can’t come up up with local tradition. The Maritime provinces, Newfoundland especially, each have some fantastic cultural traditions. Strikes me that the provinces with the cultural malaise are the ones that not only bought into corporate capitalism hard, namely Ontario and Alberta, but also defined themselves by antagonism towards another group. Quebec also seems to be having an identity crisis right now related to the same language/religion disparity.

TL;DR — When so much of your culture is rooted in religion and you reject the religion, what else you got to work with?

Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
6 years ago

Katamount – If I understand correctly, you’re saying that in Canada it’s common for English-speaking people to identify as ethnically English (due to different history from US), but you also feel it genuinely lacks substance? Or that it lacks localized Canadian substance?

As for there being different check boxes for “English-European” and “English-Canadian”, I must assume the former is indeed meant for people with recent personal ties to England.

Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
6 years ago

(I’ll have to take a break until early tomorrow)

Kiwiwriter
Kiwiwriter
6 years ago

A vast chunk of Canada’s population from 1783 onwards were the Loyalists — and descendants thereof — who fled what had just become the United States. Americans know them as “Tories.”

Needless to say, they were very serious about loyalty to the Crown, so they identified as English for generations.

Interestingly, the Governor General of Canada and the Lieutenant Governors of the Provinces, who are the Crown’s representative in Canada and those provinces, no longer bear the honorific of “His/Her Excellency,” but “His/Her Honor.”

One of the more interesting duties of His Honor the Lieutenant Governor of Ontario, came in 1992 and again in 1993, when he presented greetings at the Toronto Blue Jays’ World Series victory parade on behalf of Her Majesty the Queen, Elizabeth II, congratulating the Blue Jays on winning the Series.

Another glorious moment in the splendid history of the British Empire! Beating the Yanks at their own game!

Moon_custafer
Moon_custafer
6 years ago

I’ve seen a number of articles arguing that European immigrants who were viewed as white felt pressured to give up their culture in favour of a generic American whiteness, and that this led to the “white people have no culture” concept, but I think this may be an oversimplification — German immigrants seem to have kept their traditions for several generations until WWI and WWII led them to erase them, except for traditions that had *become* the dominant “white American” culture (hot dogs, xmas trees, etc) and everyone had forgotten their countries of origin: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Americans#The_apparent_disappearance_of_German_American_identity

(apologies if this is a bit garbled, I’m still trying to parse it myself)

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

For example, it seems to me that oftentimes, English-speaking white people in the US have no ethnic identity other than “white” or “American”

This hasn’t been my experience. Most of us are very aware of our ethnic backgrounds, even though they tend to be a mix of a lot of different things. Some people are more into their heritage than others, but most have family traditions and/or recipes connected to at least some of it. For example, on my mom’s side of the family we’ve taken to drinking aquavit on Christmas.

If anything, I think Americans of any race (at least those whose families have been here multiple generations) are constantly seeking out and affirming their roots. My mom was always a bit of a Francophile, but didn’t know why because she didn’t think she was French. Then she began to research our ancestry and discovered that we have ancestors that were minor aristocrats in France who eventually left for England to serve under Richard I. She was so excited about this.

Jenora Feuer
Jenora Feuer
6 years ago

@Katamount:
Well, in Quebec, of course, you had the Quiet Revolution in the 1960s/70s that undercut a lot of the previous Catholic control of the government, and set up a lot of the sovereignty movement which then also mostly fell apart (due mostly to Quebec getting 90% of what they wanted anyway without separation). We’re two generations on from that now, so it’s not surprising there’s been some drift.

Me, my usual joke is that I’m ‘part English, part Irish, part Scottish, and part German; I argue with myself a lot’. Most of my family traditions are just family traditions and not firmly based on any nationality other than Canadian.

That said, I also grew up in B.C., which never had the same sort of Orange Order control, probably because we weren’t next to Quebec to stoke the resentment. So I never really saw any of that growing up. And as I’ve said before, B.C. politics is just… odd, and has been since the beginning. In a number of ways, there’s more cultural similarity between B.C. and Washington state than there is between B.C. and Ontario. (And that includes the more religious conservative factions in parts of it.)

Katamount
Katamount
6 years ago

@Lumipuna

I’d say it lacks both. At least where I am in Toronto. At least Toronto has embraced pluralistic diversity (or so it claims) and is moving away from being defined as the seat of English-speaking power.

I just think about so many of the online white supremacists decrying how Moose-Lambs are going to “erase their culture” when so many of them are secular and therefore reject the the biggest parts of the culture they think they’re defending.