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Is it opposite day? I found a MGTOW who thinks sexbots will be bad for men

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By David Futrelle

Members of the He-Man Woman Haters club known as Men Going Their Own Way — like many of their manosphere pals — love to fantasize about what they see as the imminent arrival of realistic, affordable sexbots so sophisticated they can barely be distinguished from real-life sexy human ladies.

MGTOWs are obsessed with the robot sex ladies not just because they want to fuck them, but also because they think that the easy availability of robot sex will destroy the so-called Sexual Market Value of real-life women, making them so desperate for men that they’ll put up with almost anything. Some MGTOWs have convinced themselves that sexbots will ultimately make women obsolete (at least if scientists also develop artificial wombs that could handle that whole babymaking thing).

But not all MGTOWs dream of electric ladies. Over on the MGTOW.com forums, I recently discovered one lady-hater — a fellow calling himself Thorndyke — who thinks sexbots will make things worse for men.

“I am gonna go on a lunatic bend here,” he writes,

and suggest sex robots are actually going to be the problem than the solution.

In short run they might serve some purpose to provide sexual satisfaction to sexually frustrated men. However, similar to porn they will (in the long run) cause a man to ‘miss the real thing’ …

Porn doesn’t kill male desire for a woman in flesh but it fires it up – the neurons do not know where the stimulation is coming from. …

in order to truly escape the matrix a man has to conquer his sexual desire. Without such he is subject to gynocentric pull. He might resist but the pull will always try to enslave him.

Naturally, the other MGTOWs are not impressed with his argument.

Someone called Secret Agent MGTOW declares that he doesn’t miss sex with a real women, that

smelly worn out thing thats had 50 ft of c~~~ already run thru her. Certainly dont miss the attitude and the hypergamy and an overinflated smv she will try to manipulate me with.

In his mind, sexbots really

are the solution. No stds . They are customizeable. The vaginas can be replaced and washed and only you use them, no other guy does. They wil never lie. They will never cheat or plot to take at least half your s~~~. No kids. No oopsie pregnancy.

They are the solution.

But Thorndyke is undaunted, and continues on, throwing porn under the bus alongside the hypothetical future sexbots.

Regarding conquering sex drive – I wholeheartedly believe that man’s testosterone is being displaced from achievements to chasing sex. From sexualized marketing to porn to women dressing in more and more revealing clothes – sex is designed now to generate lust.

Moreover, I am fervent opponent of any self-ware man stimulating his dick to pixels on a screen. I do not have scientific evidence to back up my statement but substituting porn instead of real women is harmful for mental health in the long run. Unfortunately, the woman can f~~~ your life up more than porn will – so lesser of two evils. But evil nonetheless.

My conspiracy side states porn is made abundant for same reasons as sugar, social media, and politics are. It appeals to the lowest common denominator and prevents men from unplugging.

So it’s all a big plot, huh?

Thing is, whether MGTOWs are fapping to porn, having sex with robot ladies, or using some zen magic to erase their sex drive entirely, I’m pretty sure most women will be happy so long as these guys are doing something that enables them to keep their still-unkept promise of going their own way — far, far away.

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Jeff Fecke
2 years ago

Someone saw the Space Pope’s propaganda film.

PeeVee the Tired
PeeVee the Tired
2 years ago

Nothing will ever satisfy their desire to make everything a woman’s fault. Nothing.

PeeVee the Tired
PeeVee the Tired
2 years ago

Test

PeeVee the Tired
PeeVee the Tired
2 years ago

All right, I’m going back to Twitter. My comment won’t post.

Shadowplay
2 years ago

@PeeVee

Fire works.

PeeVee the Tired
PeeVee the Tired
2 years ago

Shadowplay,

But then they’ll claim martyrdom. And nobody needs that self-aggrandizing bullshit to show up in an AVfM sidebar. 🙄

ThatGuyWithA3DS
ThatGuyWithA3DS
2 years ago

I actually stumbled across this in a rather unfortunate Imgur thread, but it stuck with me: what’s to stop the mass adoption of sex bots by women too? Incels seem to think bots will collapse women’s status, but seem to ignore that sexbots for women could be a thing. Wonder what they’d have to say about that?

Shadowplay
2 years ago

@PeeVee

They already do that. Constantly.

Bunch of whiners.

Susan
Susan
2 years ago

@ThatGuy

I think that they don’t think women have sexual desires. We just use sex to manipulate men; we don’t want sex in and of itself in their minds. So it would not occur to them that we might like a clean, compliant sexbot who never gets tired and who doesn’t smell like farts.

Also, even though we are somehow taking their jobs while being simultaneously lazy and worthless, we only want men so that we can steal their resources. We wouldn’t have resources of our own to spend on a man substitute.

kupo
kupo
2 years ago

@ThatGuyWithA3DS
I mean, we tend to go for dildos. Cheaper and without all the dead weight.

Ooglyboggles
Ooglyboggles
2 years ago

@kupo
Major Content Warning:
Oh and they have so many pretty colors and some even have semen pumps so you can have cum play like creampies without worrying about getting pregnant. Or even egg laying if you’re into that really raunchy monster stuff. Or even just normal things like a double ended dildo if you want to go two for one on yourself or just want to go at it with a partner.

Tovius
2 years ago

“I do not have scientific evidence to back up my statement” pretty much sums up the entire manosphere.

F is for 'Fro'
F is for 'Fro'
2 years ago

Hypothetically, with technology that’s able to accurately (and safely) recreate the subtleties of intercourse, you’d think these would cost an astronomical sum of money.

…I hope MGTOWs have deep pockets, or else they’ll have to share– which I think goes against their ideology, haha.

TreePerson
TreePerson
2 years ago

@Ooglyboggles
(Continuing warnings for weird fantasy sex stuff.)
That right there is going to be the true appeal of sex-bots,
forget generic blond bombshell bots imagine aliens and fantasy beings or even a custom made tentacle monster as a partner,
why settle for realistic when you can have almost anything you could imagine?

Bina
2 years ago

Migtoes, level with me: Is getting over your ridiculous misogyny really THAT hard for you all?

I mean, all your problems in life (at least the sexual ones) would be solved if you actually LIKED women, you know.

And if you were not so damn egocentric as to think that you actually gain anything from another person’s suffering, too.

Jane Done
Jane Done
2 years ago

porn is made abundant for same reasons as sugar, social media, and politics

Hold the phone

Politics?!

Is this guy literally saying that not hiding the actions of the government and powerful agencies from everyone who is affected by those actions is a bad thing?

Uh….cool. Go move to North Korea. You’ll love it.

@TreePerson: don’t people already do that, just with costumes? I thought the main appeal of sex bots would be not having to worry about having friends or consent.

Talonknife
Talonknife
2 years ago

@TreePerson

You mean I can finally fuck an elf? Oh, frapjous day!

Cindy
Cindy
2 years ago

@Shadowplay

That’s your solution to everything!

SpukiKitty
SpukiKitty
2 years ago

OOH! I’m a horny gal!

Gimmie a cute, prettyboy sexbot! Heck; It could look like a young 1960’s Pink Floyd Syd Barrett or a younger David Tennant’s ‘Campbell Bain’ or Benicio Del Toro’s very early Bond villain role (All the physical hotness of Dario the Henchman but none of the murderous rapey stuff)….

….THE SKY’S THE LIMIT!

TWO CAN PLAY AT THIS GAME!

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
2 years ago

@TreePerson : a lot of kinks aren’t possible with costumes. Like you cannot get a costum to make you twice your actual size or more, and the tentacle costume is rather hard to enter.

Of course, we could use that famed Women’s Make-up, TM, who is straight up metamorphosis magic. But where would be the fun ?

Ooglyboggles
Ooglyboggles
2 years ago

GIVE ME MONSTER GIRL BOTS YOU COWARDS. CAT GIRL MAID BOTS

LAMIAS WITH SUPER CUDDLE STRENGTH

YUUKI ONNAS WITH ADJUSTABLE COLDNESS FOR THEIR THIGHS

Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.

Vucodlak
Vucodlak
2 years ago

RE: sexbots

Deathclaw. Those adorable horns, those cute little blood-red eyes, the sweet way they run towards you with their arms stretched wide, like they want to give you the biggest hug EVAR. Oh, how I long to be caressed (gently, but not too gently) by those armor-shredding claws!

I want a full-size deathclaw sexbot. Or a dragon. A dragon would be cool, too, provided we’re talking about the six-limbed variety. I’m not into wyverns. That would just be weird.

Pie
Pie
2 years ago

I saw a twitter post a week or two back about a guy who was perceptive enough to realise that intelligent, self-aware sexbots might be a bad thing for men like him, and honest (or oblivious) enough to admit that what he found most threatening and unpleasant about women was their sentience.

I had assumed that this post was going to be on the same subject. I don’t think I’ll drive into the archives of the manosphere to find and and link it, though.

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
2 years ago

The vaginas can be replaced and washed.

But you won’t wash them, will you? Snort.

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
2 years ago

@Pie

I saw a twitter post a week or two back about a guy who was perceptive enough to realise that intelligent, self-aware sexbots might be a bad thing for men like him, and honest (or oblivious) enough to admit that what he found most threatening and unpleasant about women was their sentience.

Kind of like the way my brothers all laughed at me, at whatever I said or did, just because it was so . . . girly. The female body, the dresses, the long hair, the dolls, the preoccupation with others’ feelings, and later the high-pitched voice and the teen girl magazines: ridiculous, every bit of it!

Wait until these MGTOW-owners-of-super-duper-hi-tech-sex-dolls-that-at-best-can-only-mimic-sentience discover that what they fear most — actual female sentience — is the thing that turns out to be what they value most.

I don’t want to be around for the tears. Or the anger.

Dvärghundspossen
Dvärghundspossen
2 years ago

You know, I have concrete evidence that it actually is opposite day!

I got a friend request on Facebook from some dude I didn’t know and with whom I had no friends in common, so I deleted. Then I got a message from him where he asked if he please could be my Facebook friend, because he saw me in a talkshow and he thought I was great and he’s kind of a fan! So I was like ok, flattering, you can be my friend.

Then I look at his feed and turns out he’s a big fan of Jordan Peterson!

Jordan Peterson and I have a fan in common. Opposite day indeed.

Kevin
Kevin
2 years ago

Never mind sexbots. I want Kryten to do my housework.

Pie
Pie
2 years ago
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
2 years ago

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This terrible Middle Eastern woman, who lives in London and has third-degree burns on her face, was introduced to a special makeup that camouflages her scars. Now, instead of working in a stockroom at stores, she works as a translator for law firms. She also says she now can blend into crowds. (The nerve!) She’s thinking about dating. And becoming a translator at the UN. (The possibility of success at relationships and a career? It couldn’t get any worse for the poor, poor manospherians, who believe that a woman’s only role is to hold herself in suspended animation until she can please a man — and then return to suspended animation.)

Not a word in this article about the number of Chads she’s ensnared. Misandry!

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/christmas/0/camouflage-make-up-gave-back-confidence/

Kevin
Kevin
2 years ago

@ Pie

Then there’s the episode where Lister unwittingly puts on a pair of underpants that are really a disguised emohawk. Rimmer walks in on Kryten straddling Lister, struggling to remove the creature, and (being Rimmer) totally misreads the situation.

‘…I can’t say I’m completely shocked…’

Moon Custafer
Moon Custafer
2 years ago

@ Jane Done:

My guess is that he added politics to the list because he figures elections are a farce to give the proles (except he might say “sheeple”) the illusion of choice but really all the candidates work for the same Big Conspiracy anyway…

Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
2 years ago
AM
AM
2 years ago

Something came to mind when reading this. For one, some of them see sexbots as the “answer” meaning they can have an off the shelf sex partner, basically. The thing is though that over time, as the technology improves, there’s probably going to be legal protections put in place for robots. After all, sentience is sentience, be it human, animal, or robot. And I’m vaguely remembering an article where the bots on the market already are starting to be built with some means of needing consent to operate. I don’t remember how that worked, but long story short, their holy grail is probably not going to work out how they want.

I’m not personally against sex bots myself. It wouldn’t be anything I could afford any time soon, that’s for sure, haha. They’re going to probably bring up some sticky (no pun intended) ethical and legal issues, though. Especially depending on how good the AI gets over time. But they can potentially be viable companions for people who have issues forming relationships, or maybe be used in sex therapy perhaps? It will be interesting to see how things go.

moregeekthan
moregeekthan
2 years ago

@Vucodlak

I’m not into wyverns. That would just be weird.

Stop kink-shaming me.

drst
drst
2 years ago

As I’ve said before, sexbots are going to be a huge disaster for these men who are already struggling to get any attention from women. Since women have far more to risk in a sexual encounter than men, robots would be far preferable for women who can afford them.

A robot will never finish first. A robot will keep going as long as you need it to. A robot will (presumably) not make a wet spot. A robot will never try to force anything. A robot will never guilt trip you into doing something you aren’t really into. A robot will never hurt you. A robot will never be in the mood when you aren’t. A robot will never give you and STI, or get you pregnant, or demand that you make it a sandwich.

I don’t see a down side for women here, but men who do all that shit should be scared.

Katamount
Katamount
2 years ago

It’s amazing how to be a MGTOW requires going out of one’s way to deliberately deny all introspection. Like instead of just admitting a deep-seated hatred of women that most of the manosphere universally acknowledge and form their communities, MGTOWs have to pretend they’ve come to a more fulfilling life without women when it’s obvious they’re the same inflating pustule of resentment they’ve always been. They just can’t be honest about it because they have some grift to sell (at least the smart ones do).

“Yeah I’m totally a more successful, confident, happier man now that I’ve gone my own way. Now let’s talk about those dumb %@#$%es who make me pay child support on that kid whose name I can’t remember.”

Otrame
Otrame
2 years ago

If all you want from sex is an orgasm, you don’t need fucking robots. You have your hand, or a vibrator if you want to go “high tech”. Or sex toys that have been around since the caves.

“There is more to sex than an orgasm!” Yes. Yes, there is. But I never see any indication from MGTOWs that they know or care what that might be. They don’t really see a sex partner as anything but a robot already.

Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
2 years ago

Moreover, I am fervent opponent of any self-ware man stimulating his dick to pixels on a screen.

I figure self-ware parties are those famous “Tupperware parties but for sex toys”.

I do not have scientific evidence to back up my statement but

Indeed.

Moon_custafer
Moon_custafer
2 years ago

@ Otrame:

I always think the problem with sexbots (of the “more than just an orgasm” type) is that they would have to have an extremely sophisticated AI – to the point where it would raise questions about sentience and consent issues. Though I’d like an SF story in which the characters include former sexbots who’ve freed themselves, and also a sexbot who can personally enjoys sex, but complains that anyone they’re attracted to is usually too worried about ethics to take them up on the offer, even if it appears to be made freely.

Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
2 years ago

A robot will never finish first. A robot will keep going as long as you need it to. A robot will (presumably) not make a wet spot. A robot will never try to force anything. A robot will never guilt trip you into doing something you aren’t really into. A robot will never hurt you. A robot will never be in the mood when you aren’t. A robot will never give you and STI, or get you pregnant, or demand that you make it a sandwich.

… stolen, in its entirety….

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Kevin
Kevin
2 years ago

Sex is far more satisfying with a partner who has visibly enjoyed the experience – even where that simply causes them to fall about laughing.

Pen
Pen
2 years ago

Well anyway, since we’re having this err… ‘conversation’ why doesn’t it ever occur to these poor guys that the futuristic, er, ‘sexual marketplace’ is likely to be flooded with ‘realistic sex robots’ of every shape under the sun, relieving sex-starved women of any conceivable need to saddle themselves with MGTOWs?

Moggie
Moggie
2 years ago

From the shortlist for the annual Literary Review Bad Sex Award:

“Empty my tanks,” I’d begged breathlessly, as once more she began drawing me deep inside her pleasure cave. Her vaginal ratchet moved in concertina-like waves, slowly chugging my organ as a boa constrictor swallows its prey. Soon I was locked in, balls deep, ready to be ground down by the enamelled pepper mill within her.

If you want a sexbot, insist on the model with an enamelled pepper mill.

Katamount
Katamount
2 years ago

…yeah, written my fair share of sex scenes and I can certainly sympathize with trying to find other methods of describing it (I find that focusing on other aspects beyond the genitalia work wonders)… but I never thought to myself “Oh yeah, know what’d be a huge turn-on? A dead animal being swallowed whole!

“Enamelled paper mill”… what kind of sex has that guy had?

ETA: Forgive me, “guys.” Plural. Both Majors, so I’m assuming they’re military. It all makes sense.

Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
2 years ago

@ Moggie, Katamount:

… yeah… ugh. The quote reminds me of one of those 60’s-70’s pulp bus station porno novels… with descriptive terms like “… turgid man-meat” and “… quivering c**t-flesh.”

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/03/politics/bruce-springsteen-donald-trump-2020/index.html

No, this one’s a live animal (at least I’m assuming it’s live — if not we have a whole ‘nuther dimension of porn, here). Kinda like the scenes in the Anaconda series of movies. Ice Cube’s gotta look at those and wonder “What the HELL was I thinking???” Constrictors, however, rarely swallow prey whole…. Live prey can claw and bite the sensitive internal… uhhh… “enamel”… of the snake’s “pepper mill”… ???

re: ladies ‘n’ sexbots, I’m reminded of Sidse Babett Knudsen’s scene in Westworld with the sexbot… (I may have the wrong character, I’m awful at memory-ing….)

Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
2 years ago

re: ladies ‘n’ sexbots, I’m reminded of Sidse Babett Knudsen’s sex scene in Westworld with the robot… (I may have the wrong character, I’m awful at memory-ing….)

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Moon_custafer
Moon_custafer
2 years ago

I. Um. Er. OK, so…. tabling the question of just which part of the woman was being compared to a pepper-mill…. Why an *enameled* pepper-mill, in particular?

dashapants
dashapants
2 years ago

I was going to comment, but anytime anyone mentions sexy robots, I immediately flash back to Zettai Kareshi, and when I come back to my senses, hours have passed.

Chris Oakley
2 years ago

“I am gonna go on a lunatic bend here,” he writes,

Doesn’t pretty much everything MGTOWs say do that sooner or later?

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
2 years ago

@Otrame:

They don’t really see a sex partner as anything but a robot already.

Not even that – they literally see women as nothing but holes.

Some enterprising person needs to sell them holes.

@Moggie:

That’s an amazing transformation from a cave to a ratchet to a boa constrictor to an enamelled pepper mill, all in the space of a few inches.

Must be the lying makeup.