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By David Futrelle
Over on the noxious incel forum Truecels.org, one of the resident creepers has a new idea that is actually one of the oldest ideas ever thought of by a human male: exploiting the most vulnerable teenage girls he can find for sex.
He hopes to find these girls on Reddit’s Runaway subreddit, a forum designed to provide resources and support for runaway youths.
“I … have been thinking about finding girls on /r/Runaway who come from abusive households and wish to start a new life somewhere else,” writes FakecelsOUT, a regular commenter on Truecels.org.
I can relate to them because I, too, want to escape my present situation. The biggest difference is that I have over $50,000 in my emergency/runaway fund that I could use to provide both of us with a better life.
What an altruist!
These girls may be more receptive of me — and more forgiving of my terrifying face — because of their desperate circumstances. Over time, they could pair bond with me in a way that normal roasties are incapable of doing because they’ve taken so many cocks during their prime years.
Yes, I’m sure these girls will truly “pair bond” with a creepy asshole trying to exploit their vulnerability. Truly the basis for a loving, long-term relationship.
The feminists and cucks would probably believe that I am “taking advantage” of them, when in reality, I am saving them while also saving myself. It’s a mutually-beneficial arrangement, which angers the feminists because they don’t want to see any truecel being happy.
Yeah, that’s not why feminists, “cucks” and decent people generally would object to this plan. But, no, you shouldn’t be having sex with anyone.
They only want to see us alone, miserable, dejected, bitter, sexually unfulfilled, and completely devoid of love/intimacy. They are spiteful people who don’t even want prostitution to be legal in the U.S. because that would give people like us a sexual outlet.
If FakecelsOUT is just interested in sex, you might wonder, why wouldn’t he hire a prostitute? Because that’s not really what he wants. He wants a young girl so desperate she has no other options but him, and he wants to control her life utterly with the money he’s saved up for this purpose.
“You could offer food, shelter, and water to girls on the street,” one of the site mods helpfully adds,
and the first few times would be altruistically but then once she becomes dependent on you then you state that you can’t be so charitable without compensation.
Yeah, that’s pretty much the plan in a nutshell, dude.
Others on the forum warn the budding altruist-with-stings-attached that these “runaway punk rock girls” tend to be a lot more street-smart than he might expect. But he’s determined not to let the girls he’s exploiting exploit him back.
“Our arrangement would be conditional on me getting my sexual/romantic needs met in exchange for her getting a chance to get back on her feet,” FakecelsOUT explains in a followup comment,
Even if she ditched me as soon as she became established in a new locale, I would at least have good memories to fall back on — unlike my current 36 year-old self who only knows of rejection and IODs [Indicators of Disinterest] from women since hitting puberty 25 fucking years ago!
In another comment, he adds:
The money that I would spend in this type of arrangement would be significantly less than having to pay for an engagement ring, wedding, expenses during marriage, and divorce settlement if I went the “traditional” route like a sucker. … I’m just looking to get my dick wet for once in my pathetic life, and have no problem TEMPORARILY using money as leverage because that’s the only leverage I have as a legitimate 1/10 truecel whose monstrous face repeatedly scares foids away!
Happily. FakecelsOUT isn’t going to be able to put this particular “experiment” into action — as someone has already gone to the Runaway subreddit to warn them about him.
Hopefully, FakecelsOUT won’t figure out some other way to target desperate young girls. Unfortunately, of course, many others have: homeless girls and young women are routinely preyed upon by predatory “altruists” like him.
And, I should add, by other manosphere types. Indeed, all the way back in 2011 I wrote about a truly depraved post on slimy loser Matt Forney’s old blog In Mala Fide advising horny but frugal men to turn to “freshly homeless young girls” as a cheap alternative to prostitutes.
NOTE: If you would like to genuinely help runaways and keep them out of the hands of scumbags like these, or if you’re in a desperate situation yourself, please contact the National Runaway Safeline, which offers 24-hour phone and online chat as well as numerous other resources. Volunteer opportunities are available. (This is an American organization; feel free to suggest resources in other countries in the comments.)
What mating dance will attract human women?
Can you see how the words you are choosing are this time making women into animals, who respond to some sort of attraction display?
How many women do you and your friends actively interact with, i wonder? And when you are interacting with women are you (or were you) putting in all the friendship tokens until you could get sex out?
I don’t want to put the ‘incel’ label on someone, because it is a group that people self identify with. However, you might ponder why so many people figure you are one, if you were only wearing different socks.
MRAL? Is that you? Anyway, I think the small height thing has been thoroughly debunked. Lots of movie/TV stars are short. My longest relationship was with a short guy. My college friend married and kids with a guy who is only 5’2″
What is an awful chin? Pointy? Cause I’ve got one of those and I’m no virgin.
Long nose? I know more than one woman who actively prefers men with big noses.
Dark face? What does that mean? Not white? Because Idris Elba was just named People’s sexiest man alive and the reaction most people had was resounding agreement.
This is why I asked the question. Because I knew any feature that you deemed too ugly to date could be debunked.
Yep. The pathetic loser is back again because if he just says the same thing while using a different name we’ll all agree with him this time.
Fuck off, you stupid little shit.
I’d been on the fence as to whether this totally-not-a-misogynist incel was yet another MRAL persona or not. But the droopy eye and small height thing could not be more of a dead giveaway.
@hapnadsmannen
Yeah, so? I can explicitly say I’m not being racist, but if I keep saying racist shit no one is going to believe me about not being racist. Same goes for sexism
He only does that after he gets called out on acting like men are the only people who experience dating difficulties. Before that:
PEOPLE won’t be able to attract a WOMAN. Not a partner, but a woman. I mean, yeah, there’s women out there who want a woman as a partner too, but that statement is pretty clearly meant to suggest that “people”=men.
Yeah. I’ll email David.
I don’t think Heebee is a troll. It’s fair enough to point out some of the unexamined implications in his comments, but the thinking that he’s displaying in this thread – while self-defeating – is very common. A lot of people struggle with self-doubt and feelings of inadequacy.
(I mean, if someone despairs of ever getting, say, a good job, are they “dehumanizing” job interviewers? Are they assuming that employers make up a “hive mind”? Maybe in a sense – there is often an paradoxical element of self-loathing solipsism in this kind of thinking – but the root cause is nonetheless a feeling of personal inadequacy.)
Yep, I believe certain people ARE JUST NOT CUT OUT TO DO certain things.
Some people cant get high paid jobs- just not qualified enough
Some PEOPLE (all genders/sex) cant get a partner- one of the reasons is that they arent attractive enough (but theres other reasons too- especially in incels case)
Some PEOPLE are always gonna be fucking useless at chess- dont have the brain power
Thats fucking life, goodness me how is this so fucking hard to understand?
We all have strengths and weaknesses. Theres things we CAN do, things we CANT do. Things we Do have and things we will never have
The second sentence does not follow from the first. And this is, in a nutshell, the problem with your whole attitude as displayed here.
Dating may be one of your weaknesses, but this does not mean that you “CAN’T” do it – it will just be harder for you. It also doesn’t imply that you should give up altogether, and it certainly doesn’t imply that endlessly venting about the situation is a good use of your time.
If you throw rocks at me because of your feelings of inadequacy, I’m going to like that exactly as much as if you did it because you didn’t like my outfit.
Putting heebee on moderation because I’m pretty sure he’s a returning troll, possibly MRAL.
Its not just a weakness, its an impossibility. It means I should not waste any time attempting it, which I dont anymore
Nimjaed because I forgot to click a button. But he’s on moderation now.
But again, if you’re going to characterize heebee’s thinking as sexist, you need to reckon with the fact that almost all of us sometimes think that way, albeit to a greater or lesser extent and perhaps in different contexts.
Again, there is an element of twisted self-absorption here, an inability to see others as individuals with their own idiosyncratic views and preferences. (In fact, this is precisely why despair is considered a sin in Christian theology – the despairing sinner presumes to speak for God in assuming that they can’t be redeemed.) But I’m reluctant to single out heebee for something that I see all the damn time in all sorts of people, especially when he already obviously suffers from low self-esteem.
Aaron,
When the owner of the blog and several of the long time commenters all agree that someone is most likely a returning troll, maybe give up defending them?
And? All of us were raised in a sexist society, so of course almost all of us will display some amount of sexism at some point. He’s being sexust. That others are also sometimes sexist doesn’t negate that.
We’re not singling him out. We call it out every time it comes up. And it comes up often. Stick around and you’ll see.
I don’t give a shit about his “low self-esteem.” It’s on him to fix that, not on me or anyone else here. I don’t come here to offer dating advice to lovelorn men and his expectation that I’ll do so is sexist.
So… because a shitty behaviour is common, we should just let it slide? Won’t that just guarantee that the behaviour continues to be common?
Or is it the argument that if something is super prevalent, it can’t be all that bad?
Since heebee is moderated, I guess we should wind the conversation down. I do want to note to heebee that if he wants to talk via other channels, I’m willing to do so.
One quick point:
To clarify: All I was trying to say is that heebee’s sexism is just a particular manifestation of a negative self-absorption that is very common in people who struggle with feelings of inferiority. (As the thinking often goes: I find myself inadequate, therefore everyone else will find me inadequate.) And I don’t think attacking depressed or insecure people for what is after all a rather abstract implication of their thinking is appropriate or helpful. We may simply have to agree to disagree on this point.
@aaron
This guy come here with a new sock every few months. First it was “not all incels” then it was “women dont like me” and now its “im too ugly”. With his previous socks the threads would get de railed in the heebee show. He would whine and complain and many of the female commenters would get tricked into whiping his lil tears and butt. There was a lot of manipulation for emotional labor and we got sick of it. So now when he pops back up, he is easy to recognize.
His comments seem harmless enough, until it just goes on and on and on about his “ugly self”.
Edit: im not trying to dogpile you. This guy has a history that many of us recognize and wanna nip in the bud.
Aaron,
I would also suggest you Google “we hunted the mammoth men’s rights activist lieutenant”
This troll showed up in 2011. He turned every thread into a drama about himself. His chief complaints being that he has a lazy eye, is short, women don’t like him therefore he’s oppressed, as are men in general. He eventually got banned. He then came back again and again and again. Dude can’t quit this blog. He has a few tells, and Heebee has displayed some of them.
Even if Heebee is not MRAL, he is almost certainly a sock, because like I said (and you failed to acknowledge) there has been several commenters who make pretty much the exact same post over the past two years.
I find it pretty suspicious that as “Mark” the seagull eating troll started to phase out his socks, this new incel troll, I think the first name being “Afroway” came on the scene. The trolling is very tailored to what is the current hot topic. In 2011, MRAL was an MRA. In 2016 he was a right wing Republican. Now, he’s an incel.
Sexism isn’t abstract to the people who experience it, and misogyny isn’t a symptom of depression.
Aaron you’re absolutely right about that, it is a symptom of depression and a very nasty one at that.
But also that’s not what’s going on. Definitely not what’s going on.
That guy ? That guy is the guy who a few years ago came here presenting himself as a “fascist-feminist” and defending the point that those aren’t mutually exclusive. Before that, he’d argued that rights are “just a social construct” and that circumcision is the same as child sexual abuse.
So yeah, nah. It’s just misogyny.
If you are so sure it is a troll, OK, there is little point in debating him even if has moderated his (apparent) opinions.
I don´t think a hypothetical man who says the same thing sincerely is a misogynist, and I don´t think a woman who says the vice-versa is man-hating, just because by a logical chain of reason you could say the implication is you are generalizing and stereotyping about the other sex, but like Aaron said you just feel that way and it is not logical, just like the things depressed people say about their life are sometimes not logical. I don´t think a “no woman could ever love me” guy is necessarily dangerous to women or that he would be especially likely to treat women badly in say his workplace or to vote for sexist policies and so on.
Doubtless when these guys discover how expensive it is to keep a mistress of any age, and need money, they will expect the girls to go out and earn money out on the streets, by “partying” with strange men.
But they’re not pimps. Oh, no. Just sickening people.