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By David Futrelle
Over on the noxious incel forum Truecels.org, one of the resident creepers has a new idea that is actually one of the oldest ideas ever thought of by a human male: exploiting the most vulnerable teenage girls he can find for sex.
He hopes to find these girls on Reddit’s Runaway subreddit, a forum designed to provide resources and support for runaway youths.
“I … have been thinking about finding girls on /r/Runaway who come from abusive households and wish to start a new life somewhere else,” writes FakecelsOUT, a regular commenter on Truecels.org.
I can relate to them because I, too, want to escape my present situation. The biggest difference is that I have over $50,000 in my emergency/runaway fund that I could use to provide both of us with a better life.
What an altruist!
These girls may be more receptive of me — and more forgiving of my terrifying face — because of their desperate circumstances. Over time, they could pair bond with me in a way that normal roasties are incapable of doing because they’ve taken so many cocks during their prime years.
Yes, I’m sure these girls will truly “pair bond” with a creepy asshole trying to exploit their vulnerability. Truly the basis for a loving, long-term relationship.
The feminists and cucks would probably believe that I am “taking advantage” of them, when in reality, I am saving them while also saving myself. It’s a mutually-beneficial arrangement, which angers the feminists because they don’t want to see any truecel being happy.
Yeah, that’s not why feminists, “cucks” and decent people generally would object to this plan. But, no, you shouldn’t be having sex with anyone.
They only want to see us alone, miserable, dejected, bitter, sexually unfulfilled, and completely devoid of love/intimacy. They are spiteful people who don’t even want prostitution to be legal in the U.S. because that would give people like us a sexual outlet.
If FakecelsOUT is just interested in sex, you might wonder, why wouldn’t he hire a prostitute? Because that’s not really what he wants. He wants a young girl so desperate she has no other options but him, and he wants to control her life utterly with the money he’s saved up for this purpose.
“You could offer food, shelter, and water to girls on the street,” one of the site mods helpfully adds,
and the first few times would be altruistically but then once she becomes dependent on you then you state that you can’t be so charitable without compensation.
Yeah, that’s pretty much the plan in a nutshell, dude.
Others on the forum warn the budding altruist-with-stings-attached that these “runaway punk rock girls” tend to be a lot more street-smart than he might expect. But he’s determined not to let the girls he’s exploiting exploit him back.
“Our arrangement would be conditional on me getting my sexual/romantic needs met in exchange for her getting a chance to get back on her feet,” FakecelsOUT explains in a followup comment,
Even if she ditched me as soon as she became established in a new locale, I would at least have good memories to fall back on — unlike my current 36 year-old self who only knows of rejection and IODs [Indicators of Disinterest] from women since hitting puberty 25 fucking years ago!
In another comment, he adds:
The money that I would spend in this type of arrangement would be significantly less than having to pay for an engagement ring, wedding, expenses during marriage, and divorce settlement if I went the “traditional” route like a sucker. … I’m just looking to get my dick wet for once in my pathetic life, and have no problem TEMPORARILY using money as leverage because that’s the only leverage I have as a legitimate 1/10 truecel whose monstrous face repeatedly scares foids away!
Happily. FakecelsOUT isn’t going to be able to put this particular “experiment” into action — as someone has already gone to the Runaway subreddit to warn them about him.
Hopefully, FakecelsOUT won’t figure out some other way to target desperate young girls. Unfortunately, of course, many others have: homeless girls and young women are routinely preyed upon by predatory “altruists” like him.
And, I should add, by other manosphere types. Indeed, all the way back in 2011 I wrote about a truly depraved post on slimy loser Matt Forney’s old blog In Mala Fide advising horny but frugal men to turn to “freshly homeless young girls” as a cheap alternative to prostitutes.
NOTE: If you would like to genuinely help runaways and keep them out of the hands of scumbags like these, or if you’re in a desperate situation yourself, please contact the National Runaway Safeline, which offers 24-hour phone and online chat as well as numerous other resources. Volunteer opportunities are available. (This is an American organization; feel free to suggest resources in other countries in the comments.)
While it’s true that it clearly wasn’t Rodger’s looks that kept him from romance, I also don’t really agree that it was his “character” either. There are tons of awful people who get laid all the time.
The reality is very simple: Rodger didn’t have sex because he didn’t make a reasonable effort to have sex. I’ve read his manifesto twice, and what strikes me is the complete absence of humiliating stories of rejection, or really any interaction with women at all that don’t involve him spraying them with a Super Soaker. He gets drunk and wanders into random house parties, where he seems less interested in picking up women than in picking fights with men. He buys expensive clothing and walks around town fulminating about – what, exactly? That female strangers aren’t throwing themselves at him? That the world doesn’t present him with a girlfriend? What exactly does he want to happen? It’s unclear to me, and I suspect to him as well. About the most he ever did was make a dating profile, and based on his manifesto he doesn’t seem to have been a particularly active user.
For all it sounds ridiculous, I do get it. If you’re socially awkward or anxious or even just a late bloomer when it comes to women and romance, it’s sometimes hard to know where to begin. But at a certain point you have to recognize that that’s fundamentally your problem, and that you aren’t being “locked out” by anyone – you just haven’t figured out how to open the door.
WHAT?!
Okay, I know there are some feminists who are against prostitution because they think it’s purely exploitation of women, but most people I’ve seen, myself included, this it should be legal so it can be taxed and regulated, and the prostitutes can have guaranteed rights and unionize. I have, however, seen your fellow incels reject prostitution as a solution, on the ground that prostitutes are all “roasties.” Personally, I think the actual reason they don’t go to prostitutes is because, after having sex, they wouldn’t feel any less like the pitiful losers they are, and would finally have to accept that being virgins wasn’t what was making them social rejects.
Apparently serial groper Al Franken has decided he’s suffered enough. Joy.
So… Just having a generally ugly face is enough to make literally every woman on the planet unwilling to date someone? No, that kind of sentiment is definitely not misogynistic or assuming that all women are some kind of hivemind.
Also, damn, you’d better tell all of those guys with generally ugly faces who have partners that they’re living a lie. How about you start with this guy, who was born with a facial deformity but somehow, impossibly, found a woman willing to marry and have a kid with him?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3058890/Father-born-severe-facial-deformity-branded-cruel-wife-decide-baby-daughter-condition-insists-ll-tell-s-beautiful-day.html
@Aaron: I think that’s one reason lots of people actually said that they found PUA stuff helpful for meeting women. My impression is that there are men like Rogers, who simply don’t talk to women or interact with them at all. Then they read some PUA book or whatever, and however horrible the advice, it gets them to actually interact with women, even multiple women each time they go out, and obviously that makes the odds of them finding dates/sex better compared to just standing silently in a corner.
Heebee explicitly says he doesn´t blame women, and that he thinks it´s the same for men and women, and a host of commenters still insist that he does and even that he think only men are “real people”, which he has not indicated in any way.
While I don´t think it is correct that anyone is so ugly they have no chance to get laid or even form happy long term relationship, surely there are people who for a combination of being unattractive, socially akward and insecure have a very difficult time romantically, without necesarly either not trying or being horrible people.
I never said that there arent any ugly men living with partners. Im just saying that some guys are destined to miss out and its better they accept it, make peace with it and concentrate on other aspects of life
Some men and women are just too damn ugly to get laid. Or at least their odds are million to 1. Its better they make peace with it (rather than getting turned down again and again and again) and move on. If every incel took a leaf out of my book and gave up on dating without being a whiny little shit about it, the world would be so much better.
The only way incels would be able to live a happy life is to become like me. Dating is too far away and impossible for them.They are too far gone and they cant tolerate any form of rejection
Dvärghundspossen
Anyone who finds roosh’s material “helpful” is a scumbag. Sorry. Even if it works (doubt it fucking does) its morally corrupt, taking advantage out of insecure women, manipulation, lying, using women for sex.
Name me one of roosh’s followers who is a decent partner? exactly
Hold on, let me see if I can provide a parable of this argument:
“Yes, this box is completely fireproof. It will never be able to be set on fire. It needs to accept this.”
“What makes that box fireproof, specifically?”
“Well, you see, this box is brown, and that makes it fireproof.”
“But there’s a brown box that is on fire just over there.”
“WELL I DIDN’T MEAN THAT LITERALLY EVERY BROWN BOX WAS FIREPROOF”
Yeah, totally sound logic there. If you say that a quality without question produces a certain result, then this should be applicable for all things possessing of that quality, should it not?
There is a difference between- “Some people have qualities which make it difficult for them to find a partner, and it is possible they may never find one. A valid choice for people in this situation would be for the person to decide to give up on dating and focus on other aspects of their life that they may find fulfilling. The emphasis on the importance of romantic relationships and the idea that everyone should be partnered up with someone else is a harmful idea perpetuated by our society, and we should move away from it.”
And
“There are some men who are just literally undateable. No woman will ever let them get laid. All women have a universal standard which they require men to reach, which cannot be easily defined despite it being common to literally every woman on earth. The ugly men just have to accept this.”
I never said “let them”
Its up to the man to earn a womans attraction, and further on love and effection
If you dont meet the standards and you keep getting rejected its tough shit
Move on and swallow it
I did it, and the incels should too
So, too ugly to date isn’t a thing after all?
What you’re perhaps missing is that in the past year or two, we’ve had several commenters who make the exact same posts. It is highly likely they have all been socks of the same person. In this person’s early incarnations, there was a lot more explicit incel apologism that didn’t go over well. It’s become more subtle over time. “Some men are too ugly to date” is still incel rhetoric. Throwing in a “yeah, it’s the same for women too” doesn’t change that.
I know that he’s being mild enough now that if you haven’t been interacting with him all this time, it seems like we’re being mean for no reason, but there’s a reason he’s getting the side eye.
Every guy can increase their chances of dating (which incels make no effort to do) but theres a possibility that a man or a woman could do everything possible to date (self improvement ect) and still fall short.
Therefore we need to push forward the option of being happy whithout romance, which our society doesnt do enough IMO
But this isn’t because they’re just too ugly. Asserting that all women will find certain men too unattractive to date is false and reductive and we WILL NOT stop pushing back on that. It’s not treating women as human beings with agency and individual tastes.
Here we go, a-fucking-gain!!!
Its the incel show, starring our resident incel sock. Every new incarnation seems to learn a little bit, but still cant grasp what the other commenters have been saying for YEARS now. Uuuuuuuuggghhh.
If anyone got the impression that I defend PUA:s or that I defend Roosh in particular who really seems to be the worst of the worst then no, I did not mean that. But I hope most of you got that? I was just elaborating a little bit on Aaron’s post, nothing more.
I didn’t get the impression that you would be defending Roosh.
It is funny though. PUA followers always do seem to admit that they have to hit on a ton of women to get a response. Hitting on 500 women is going to get you a better chance than hitting on 0 women. But they never to stop to think that engaging with women like we’re actual human beings is going to improve the odds from the one in several hundred that PUA gets men.
When I’ve had casual sex, it’s always been after a night of interesting conversation with a guy. I’ve never gone home with a guy who’s come up to me in a bar and started negging me or using kino. Those are the kind of guys I get the hell away from and then mock. My female friends who have had casual sex are the same way.
@Dvärghundspossen
I understood your point and did not think you were saying anything positive about PUAs.
WWTH, on heebee:
It’s almost like the feminist theory about constantly repeated microaggressions being annoying as hell. Maybe we should call it microtrolling?
PUA is awful. Id rather die alone and never get laid than use Roosh’s “methods” to have casual sex
I might be ugly and undateable, but incel? Nah, I understand how the world works. You get what you deserve. I dont deserve a woman until I attract one. And if I never attract one, its tough fucking shite. And it aint anyones fault either, we all have different fates, we have to master it thats all:)
But this isn’t because they’re just too ugly. Asserting that all women will find certain men too unattractive to date is false and reductive and we WILL NOT stop pushing back on that. It’s not treating women as human beings with agency and individual tastes.
Sorry Kupo, disagree. Its not a hit or a slant on women, it just means the guy is fucking butt ugly and its tough fucking shit. Not the womens fault either. Its natural selection, deal with it
Again, what specifically constitutes too ugly to date? What actual facial features make a too ugly to date face?
Droopy eyes, small height. awful chin, long nose, dark face
No pity needed though, thats fucking life. SWALLOW it and move on
With all due respect, your comments don’t indicate to me that you’re moving on at all. You’re obsessively ruminating on what you see as your physical flaws. And that’s understandable: most of us fixate on our perceived shortcomings to one degree or another. But to the extent that you can’t change them, you need to figure out how to work around them. Endlessly bemoaning the situation is at best a waste of time, and at worst leads down the path of the embittered incel.
hapnadsmannen
Heebee has repeatedly declared that all women everywhere share one belief: that he is not worth doinking. Given that he has not spoken to all women on the subject of his doinkability, his certainty that we all share the same opinion on that subject is at odds with the fact that we are all unique individuals with interior lives, each capable of making different choices and judgments.
Now, that doesn’t necessarily mean that he does not understand that women are complicated, fully human actors with the capacity to think independently. Maybe he can read minds. That would be cool. I think the former is more likely, though.
@Viscaria
If he can read minds, can he tell me what I find attractive? I don’t even know! It’s so unpredictable and variable.