By David Futrelle
While most Americans were enjoying Thanksgiving, a small army of brave cyberwarriors were launching a guerrilla assault on … women selling nude pics of themselves online, reporting them to the IRS en masse for supposed tax evasion. (Or at least threatening to.)
These angry dudes — and they pretty much all seem to be dudes — don’t have any evidence that the targets of this so-called #ThotAudit aren’t paying taxes on unreported earnings. They mostly just want to take these “thots” — the term, short for “that hoe over there,” is now a popular synonym for “slut” — down a peg or two.
https://twitter.com/prowowdruid/status/1066437585877258240
https://twitter.com/TylerGange/status/1066480079658721281
You might not think that Reddit’s so-called Red Pill dudes would have much sympathy for this campaign, which is still evidently going strong.
After all, most Red Pillers tend to think of themselves as some variety of libertarian, way of “big government” and the taxes that fund it. And aren’t the supposed “victims” of these evil nude-selling women — that is, the guys who actually shell out money for exclusive pics and videos — a bunch of pathetic, porn-addicted beta cucks anyway? Red Pillers are supposedly up to their necks in Hot Babes. Isn’t getting mad at Instagram nude-pic-sellers an awfully incelly thing to do?
Well, as it turns out, Red Pill dudes seem as excited about exacting revenge against these women as any sex-deprived beta. In a recent thread on the #ThotAudit in the Red Pill subreddit, a bunch of the regulars lashed out at the alleged thot menace.
“The society of thots must be torn down,” wrote someone called Good-Boi.
Modern western woman embrace being whores but we should shame whores and put them down where every thy thot appears.
For someone called IVIaskerade, the #ThotAudit campaign was “Black Knighting at its finest.”
More than a few were happy to set aside their dislike of “snitching” to support what they saw as a good cause. AutisticusMaximus got more than 100 upvotes for a comment noting that
Although I was always against snitching for the sake of snitching, in order to get in good terms with the boss/teacher, whatever; I have nothing against this, I pay taxes, they should too, fuck off.
And I understand the non-monetary satisfaction in reporting here, the same hot women who never gave them the time of day in life and degraded them for their hobbies (video games, computers, etc.) are now disingenuously adopting those same hobbies because they can use their sexuality to monetize them.
But it was a Red Pill mod called bsutansalt who set forth the Red Pill Case for Thot Auditing in its full glory. Which is to say, not very much,
“Once upon a time,” he began,
there was a “pussy in every pot” as I like to call it for betas and chads alike. Civilization had checks and balances that ensured average dudes would land a woman to have some kids with to ensure he’d have skin in the game to slave and build society for.
It’s perhaps appropriate that he started off his rant with “once upon a time,” because so far this is little more than a familiar Red Pill fairy tale.
However, since the advent of women’s lib and the pill, women are now free to fuck and suck every chad they cross paths with and it’s causing a rift between the sexual haves and have nots that we’re just starting to see the ramifications of.
The idea that average woman is having endless wild orgies with a succession of chads while denying “betas” their fair share of sex is utter bullshit, no matter how often manosphere types insist on repeating it.
[I]t’s entirely understandable thirsty jaded dudes would blow the whistle on these thots who are taking advantage of their thirst. … [T]here’s also an financial incentive to blow the whistle on them: any taxes the IRS collects because of the dime you dropped, your’e liable to get a 30% cut.
No one is going to get a 30% cut for telling the IRS that they’re pretty sure SexyGirl99 is evading her taxes because, er, she thinks she’s all that? You have to give the IRS specific proof.
On the other end of the spectrum are the worst case examples are guys cracking under the pressure (and depression it causes) and shooting up yoga classes and theaters and whatnot.
It wouldn’t be a manosphere rant without some “warning” that if women don’t have sex with dudes they don’t want to have sex with these dudes will just up and murder them.
The more common consequence has been guys waking up, taking the red pill, and enjoying the decline primarily in one of two ways:
- Simply dropping out and going Galt (aka MGTOW) and
- Taking on the mantle of self-improvement to make themselves into chads so they can graduate into being one of the “haves”
Most of us here probably fall into category 2.
Or at least they want the other dudes reading their comments to think that they do.
In conclusion, I fully endorse #thotaudit if only for the checks and balances it represents to women’s sexuality.
In other words, his wall of text was basically just a more verbose version of “lmao, these thots are just getting what’s coming to them!”
But not everyone in the Red Pill subreddit was quite this enthusiastic about the #ThotAudit campaign.
“my general disapproval of sluts is at war with my hatred of taxes,” wrote someone called russian_n*gger.
“I can’t endorse snitching,” added chadmarco. “I’d rather men just not throw money at bitches in the first place.”
But it was legendary Red Pill commenter GayLubeOil who offered the most, well, creative argument against the snitching campaign.
“There’s nothing “Alpha” about this,” he declared.
What we’re seeing is the Incel Slave Class adopting the value system of the Thot Master class in a traditional Hegalian Master Slave Dialectic. In this case specifically it’s PayPal deplatforming.
Another example of this Untermensh mentality is Paul Elam and MGTOW adopting the feminist victimhood narrative for their needs.
Being a slave in a Master Slave Dialectic automatically makes you beta.
One point to GayLubeOil for working a gratuitous Paul Elam dis into a discussion of the #ThotAudit hashtag. Two points for the reference to Hegel. One point off for spelling his name wrong.
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These guys. I’d say “fuck ’em”, but that’s what they want. That’s why they’re sliding into everybody’s private messages, demanding nudes, sex, and who knows what all else. They created this market, and now they’re complaining that they have to pay for it.
And if they got “a pussy in every pot”, as they claim existed in their mythical Golden Age of No Feminism, they’d be kvetching that it’s not good enough for them.
I hope the IRS shoots all of them down in the most ignominious way.
Wait, is that 30% thing real?
So if you face a big tax bill, you just need to team up with someone with a small liability, get them not to pay, arrange to grass them up, and then pay their bill from your 30% discount.
It’s a win-win.
I’m not sure our media laws allow for the IRS to buy up a block of airtime during which they broadcast a long line of miggies presenting themselves, one by one, to the auditor, who jumps up and down and laughs like a donkey at each of them in turn.
The Jezebel headline sums it up nicely: Trolls Impotently Warn They’re Reporting Sex Workers to the IRS—and Sex Workers Mostly Ignore Them
Wait. Are there penalties for a false report? Its like they’re convinced that none of those sex workers are paying taxes
Also interesting how incels committing murder and serious crimes are just “cracked under pressure” according to red pillers while women choosing not to fuck them are the worst thing to happen to civilization and must be punished with removing rights and forced marriage you can’t leave from. ( they fantasize about that alot dont they.. yikes. They literally want slavery )
I actually got into a long argument with some angry little fellow over this recently. Seems like there are only two types of people supporting this “thotaudit”, the ones who really hate women, and the ones who only hate women a little but want to pretend we live in a fantasy world where nobody is sexist unless they are announcing it with a megaphone. This guy was the latter. So despite being started by some woman hater named David Wu and then being promoted by the even bigger woman hater Roosh and all the incels screeching about “whores” and the fact that it is literally called “THOTaudit”, there’s absolutely no reason to believe this whole campaign is motivated by sexism. These people just REALLY care about others paying their taxes, but not major corporations like google and amazon that dodge billions, no, only webcam models, and only the female ones, many of whom already pay taxes. Yep, nothing suspicious about that whatsoever!
I am 100% certain people who say there is no sexism involved here are lying to themselves. It’s all about plausible deniability these days, sexism and racism don’t exist when it would be inconvenient for them, so if 100% of a group of people don’t officially register with the “no wimenz aloud” club, there’s no “proof” that they are sexist…and therefore it’s somehow more logical to believe something ridiculous with even less proof! Like that they are just imaginary unicorn people who genuinely care about cam models cheating the government out of 20s of dollars a month. Cause that makes much more sense than the outlandish and inconceivable claim that sexism exists on the internet.
@Alan:
I think the ‘30% cut’ means ‘cut of what the IRS gets paid by the person who was reported’, not ‘cut of what the reporter is paying’. So what you described wouldn’t work, as you’d only get 30% of what they had to pay, and couldn’t pay them from that.
Granted, like any ‘turn in your neighbour’ scheme, there would be all sorts of avenues for abuse. Just forcing someone else to go through an audit is bad enough.
So, I agree, ‘wait, is that a real thing?’
And, apparently it is, sort of:
https://www.irs.gov/compliance/whistleblower-informant-award
There are some legal rules required for the status, though, and yes, proof is required. Also:
So 30% isn’t in the cards, as someone would have to be a reasonably big name to be raking in over $200k per year and have more than $2m outstanding. And if it doesn’t meet those levels, then the IRS can just toss the thing out and you can’t even complain afterward.
This whole setup is presumably really designed for people working inside corporations to be able to report their employers cheating on taxes.
Of course, the IRS doesn’t really want its time wasted, and things like ‘lying to a federal officer’ and ‘filing a false report’ can be treated as crimes on their own…
“Thot” is the way one of my friends spells the word “thought”, for simplicity’s sake, and I’ve a feeling he wouldn’t be too pleased with this usage. Maybe amused in a rolled-eyes sort of way.
Oooo-kay. Sometimes I forget the dehumanization aspect. If you really thought of women as objects, like food, then I guess you’d be mad about them getting (even earning) men’s money. It’d be like giving a roast chicken a salary, except the chicken is also evil and plots how to squeeze as much cash out of you as possible.
Contrast with the old days, when men were men and women were compliant zombie chickens.
(I am not, in fact, a zombie chicken and need sleep :D)
Wait. Isn’t there a penalty for false reports to the IRS? Like, all of these incels are just convinced that sex workers (none of the male sex workers are being brought up) are all not paying taxes. Couldnt those reporting face trouble? Sorry if thats a dumb question.
Also, disgustingly interesting of how red pillers describe an incel committing atrocities like mass murder “cracked under the pressure” but women freely choosing not to have sex with them is the worst thing to happen to civilization and it must be punished immediately. How dare women be people and not incubators
Horrid of they to fantasize about forcing women to have no rights, to marry them and they can’t escape. Its as if they want slavery back. All because they dont have sex.
@tohka
You make some excellent points.
But I’m gonna have to take issue with the above statement.
I have absolutely no doubt that they want slavery back.
For others, of course. Not for them!
OT: Christine Blasey Ford
The guy whose life she ruined is now on the Supreme Court. Meanwhile, Christine Blasey Ford is “hopeful” that her life, and the lives of her family, will soon return to normal.
https://www.gofundme.com/help-christine-blasey-ford
#ThotAudit is complete bullshit. They’re all talk. You can’t just sic the IRS on somebody because you don’t like them.
In order to file a whistleblower claim, you have to provide the following:
1) a specific monetary amount that is owed to the IRS
2) information to support the narrative, such as ledgers, receipts, contracts, emails, bank account information
3) a description of when and how the whistleblower became aware of the information that forms the basis of the claim
4) a complete description of the whistleblower’s relationship to the subject of the claim (family member, employee, bookkeeper, customer, lawyer). “Random internet hater” doesn’t cut it.
5) the whistleblower’s original signature on the declaration under penalty of perjury, which carries a fine of $1000 or prison sentence of 1 year.
…Have fun storming the castle, boys.
P.S. You’d think people who spend so much time whining about false accusations wouldn’t be so quick to indulge in them themselves.
Report, report, report, but no duty
To one’s community
A last resort of all the most desperate
Easy for all to see
Clawing down, there’ll be no crown
For them or their ilk to wear
When will we see them there?
There in the middle of all the action
Fightin’ for the rights they claim
Can’t be convinced to make a transaction
Just to enter the game
Only thing that’s neat, they’re off the street
Leave that to those who dedicate
To the vision of a nation never great
Nine out of ten a gaggle of white men
Over on the other line
Nobody told ’em, “time to get crackin’!”
Because they figure they’ll be fine
‘Course they get pissed at those that raise a fist
Against the fascist entropy
Because the color’s all they see
And in the interim, they’re stuck in the turnstile
While the rest breeze by
Can’t find the thing that makes their lives worthwhile
What’s stoppin’ them? They can’t say bye!
Throwin’ pebbles from their holes, hack up smoke from their coals
And nobody asks what it means
Just asks those hit not to make scenes
Upon that they do lean
And I’ll just say: that’s beans.
I’ve made good money doing naughty things on the internet, and I always paid my taxes. I’m sure the people they’re bothering have nothing to worry about.
I’m sure it’ll help though, to have these women whom these bros perceive as getting something for nothing (rather than just providing a wanted service according to the free market principle of supply and demand – a principle first coined by an Islamic scholar in the middle ages considered the father of economics, FYI) to start paying their taxes to fund the so-called “welfare queens” whom they also perceive as getting something for nothing.
Then they can get back to “focusing on self-improvement and becoming Chads”, a thing that is TOTALLY actually happening. XD
Oops I didnt notice my first original post went through successfully. Apologizes! I thought it didnt and went to post again! Sorry sorry new here
@Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
No not for them! I notice their feelings because whenever they bring up “solutions” to their issues (women not choosing them) it always involves restricting human rights. Its creepy and horrid and dehumanizing. So much so that even some TRP subscribers aren’t on board. Yikes
@Buttercup Q. Skullpants
This this this!
Wait, is this related to the recent troll campaign to get women ASMR entertainers kicked off PayPal for selling “sexual content”?
Also, I can’t imagine what you could report about some random camgirl other than: “Everyone knows sex workers operate in the grey economy, even when they’re legal, so here’s one camgirl in case you’d like to audit her…”
Checks and balances on sexuality, eh? If I recall correctly, in Ye Goode Olde Dayese, women were kept in check by dying in childbirth, and in exchange men would get slaughtered in pointless wars so there wouldn’t be any surplus. Or maybe it was the other way around.
Either way, it sounds pretty fucking idyllic, as I’m sure you’ll agree. The world is a waaaaay worse place now.
An online friend of mine does cam work and she got involved in this. The only problem with this is that she’s not a resident of the USA in any way, shape or form. So, basically, these guys are seemingly just picking online sex workers at random and don’t even care to check if they are reporting Americans to the American IRS. I…I’m actually kinda conflicted now, between laughter and tears. Guess I’ll solve this conflict by laughing until I cry… 😀
@Bina
It’s not about sex. They slide into our messages and demand nudes, and it’s not because they want nudes; nudes are easy to find, you don’t need to ask random girls for them. It’s to put us in our place. To remind us that they can just waltz in to our private, personal social media lives and demand sex.
It’s all about keeping women on the back foot. Constantly apologising. Constantly playing to the unspoken paradigm that men are “the standard” “the majority” “the norm” and women are “the deviation” “the minority” and we need to explain ourselves and our behaviour.
I’ve posted this quote before, but I think it’s time for it again.
In this case Toni Morrison is writing about racism; but her point is both universal and profoundly important. It can equally well be applied to sexism, homophobia, transphobia…..The more time you spend feeling like you have to prove you have the right to be considered a person, the less time you spend being one. You end up constantly chasing the “good enough”. We will never, ever, EVER be good enough for these guys to spontaneously say “OK, we accept it, we’re all equals”.
The only reason we feel like we have to prove anything at all about women is because these idiots say we do.
@ jenora
Aww. It seems there’s just no break for the common, er, criminal.
(I’m now reminded of the Cheech and Chong Sister Mary Elephant sketch, where the cop is doing a drugs awareness thing with the schoolkids.
“Hey, do you have still have that scheme where if you snitch on a dealer you get money?”
“That is correct”
“Well I wanna grass on Billy man. He sold me some weed last week; wouldn’t get a fly high”)
Alan:
The only thing that can defeat someone hell bent on seeking legal loopholes and exploitation opportunities is another lawyer…
Hey, I thought you guys might find this interesting…and terrible.
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/outintheopen/crossing-divides-1.4538834/i-did-have-the-blinders-on-former-feminist-on-what-changed-her-mind-1.4538923.
I hope the link works!
All during the Obama administration , conservatives made baseless claims that they were targeted by the IRS for political reasons. As usual, it’s projection. Anything conservatives claim the “left” is doing is What they’re either doing or planning on doing themselves. They simply can’t imagine that anyone else is principled.
Very relevant (and not the least bit surprising): https://twitter.com/DammieItsCammie/status/1067091312363614209
@tohka and Buttercup:
Yeah, the manosphere (and conservatives in general maybe) definitely engage in a lot of projection.