“You Know It’s Over When Your Mouse Reminds You of a Clitoris” and 14 other top headlines from Incels.is

Talonknife – most American Jews are of Ashkenazi descent. Whether they’re white or not depends on who you ask and where.

For about fifteen hundred years in Europe, they weren’t considered to be either white or European. Since the successful establishment of Israel, some ME anti-Zionists have insisted that they’re both.

A good friend from college once told me of how disorienting it was when her family moved to California and suddenly became white. It’s an article of faith among some Americans that Jews are fundamentally and ineluctably non-white, regardless of physical appearance or religious practice.

The clitoris is like a mouse scroller? I thought it’s more like a lawnmower priming button. You press it slowly three times, then pull the tampon cord while spreading the labia apart with your other hand.

@Talonknife: in addition to the above examples, there is a small community of Chinese Jews (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_China).

There miiiiiiiiight – hear me out – just miiiiiiight be a connection between never brushing your teeth/washing your balls, and women not wanting to sit next to you on the bus.

It’s funny, incels are always complaining about how irrational women are. Yet they get even angrier when women behave in rational, predictable ways, such as avoiding unpleasant odors. Or not wanting to associate with people who hate them and want to enslave or kill them. It really baffles them. I guess it destroys the fantasy that women are inanimate, servile objects and men can smell and behave however they want with no consequences.

As for Guy Who Never Brushes His Teeth, he may be young and cavity free now thanks to lucky mouth chemistry, but he’s setting himself up for serious health problems down the road. It’s not just about cavities. Tartar builds up over time and harbors nasty bacteria under the gumline. Those bacteria can easily get into the bloodstream and increase the risk of coronary artery disease, dementia, and diabetes. Body chemistry changes as people age and different flora move in. The mouth starts to decompensate. Maybe in your 20s you can get away with neglecting dental health, but not in your 40s and 50s. Habits are hard to change the older you get.

Not that I really care if the OP ends up losing his teeth to periodontal disease, but it’s actively harmful when these guys insist that standard health recommendations are bullshit because they ignore them and the sky hasn’t fallen yet, ha ha ha.

Weird how these guys take full credit for building civilization and STEM, then turn around and reject all its trappings. Women have too much freedom, toothpaste is a lie, vaccines cause autism, all-meat diets are superior, the adult world is boring and meaningless once you leave high school. Also weird how their femoid-free caveman utopia doesn’t seem to bring them much contentment.

@Buttercup Q. Skullpants

Weird how these guys take full credit for building civilization and STEM, then turn around and reject all its trappings.

You noticed that too, huh? Kind of “We built everything! But everything sucks!”

What gets me about these people is that you never get for a second an instance of what actually brings these people joy and comfort. It’s just all anger all the time. I suffer from depression myself, but even in my darkest moments, I had something to keep myself anchored. Music. Games. Art.

And it’s not just the incels. You look at every alt-right social media account (at least the ones that aren’t obviously bots) and it’s wall-to-wall memes and cruelty. By the same token, I never got the sense that Gamergaters actually enjoyed playing video games; it was more a lifestyle obligation than any kind of cathartic release.

Just to point out something that again was said on that fantastic Chapo interview with Natalie Wynn was that as much as anybody that falls under the social justice rubric have a reputation of being humourless moralizers who can’t take jokes… it’s the antis that actually come off as far more self-serious and thin-skinned. Being a furry online, I had to develop good humour about my persona pretty quickly. Those who go against society’s grain even more publicly I’m sure have adapted that too. The people with unusual hair styles or modes of dress are well aware of how they appear to others.

The antis are all too eager to make “jokes” at the expense of others, typically those on the margins of society, but when was the last time you ever saw an anti make a self-effacing joke? Every photo I’ve ever seen of Jordan Peterson, every single one I’ve seen run in a newspaper, he’s always dour or scowling. He never smiles, laughs, seems to take any joy in life. And they call feminists humourless?

It’s part of what drew me to a lot of feminist content creators: they really do feel more like people and less like contrived brands meant to conceal insecurities and shield from self-doubt. A SocJus content creator will go for a walk in the park, make a joke about a bad clothing choice, be goofy on Twitter or Facebook, post about their pets, stuff humans do.

Stay human, everybody! And Happy Evolved-Dinosaur Consuming Day!

@Katamount:

What gets me about these people is that you never get for a second an instance of what actually brings these people joy and comfort.

That was one of the things people noticed when the whole Sad Puppies/Rabid Puppies thing was going on in SF fandom over the Hugo awards. People were showing up places like File770 screaming about how conservative authors were being deliberately overlooked. But when asked about what authors they liked or what books they’d read and enjoyed recently (most of the usual crowd on File770 are pretty voracious readers) the usual response was deflection or completely ignoring the question.

There were a few exceptions (at least one of those exceptions is still a fairly active regular there) but it definitely seemed to be the general rule.

The epitome of the humorless reactionary is Trump not allowing a comedian at the White House correspondents dinner because he can’t take a joke at his expense.

Katamount, very good point. Online edgelords take pride in having killed their humanity like the nerve in a root canal; unfortunately, they often spoil the effect by becoming shit-flinging apes the moment something actually offends them. Because, to paraphrase George Carlin, other people’s stuff is shit but their shit is stuff.

TBH the pillow cuddling headline makes me sad. Sex isn’t a “need”, but imo, some type of human connection is necessary for mental health & well-being, & for most people that includes physical affection.

It saddens me that for most men, the only acceptable access to physical affection is in romantic relationships. So if they’re not in a relationship, men are never touched.

That doesn’t excuse incels. But some of them at least claim to want affection & connection with ordinary women, not state-provided child brides. I hope they get out. & if they can learn to be decent people, I will personally hug every person who manages to break free of the incel cult 😛

@Ooglyboggles

Until I see a complete transcript, I’m assuming it’s a smear.

This is like when she repeatedly said no, she’s not going to run in 2020, and their takeaway was that she said she wishes she was president so she must be running and so we need dozens more articles about how she shouldn’t run.

Clinton’s comments on immigration are real. They’re all over Twitter today.

From the article Oogly cited:

“I think Europe needs to get a handle on migration because that is what lit the flame,” Clinton said, speaking as part of a series of interviews with senior centrist political figures about the rise of populists, particularly on the right, in Europe and the Americas.

“I admire the very generous and compassionate approaches that were taken particularly by leaders like Angela Merkel, but I think it is fair to say Europe has done its part, and must send a very clear message – ‘we are not going to be able to continue provide refuge and support’ – because if we don’t deal with the migration issue it will continue to roil the body politic.”

From the interview

Clinton articulated a position that she felt Democrats should adopt on immigration in the US, where there are an estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants, as Trump exploits fear of migrants to inflame his political base.

Democrats, she said, must never stoop to treating migrants cruelly. “You deport the bad actors, you deport the criminals, you deport people who have some other kind of threat to our national security. People who have been here for a long time, you have a cut-off point and after that point, they have to learn English, they have to pay taxes, they have to follow the law, they have to wait in line, and you have a process.

“For people who then keep coming, you turn them back, unless they qualify for asylum, which has been in our law for hundreds of years.”

It sucks, but there’s no smearing involved, or over-reaction. She said it, and she expanded on it.

@nparker

I don’t necessarily see a lot wrong with what she said in those quotes. There aren’t many bigger advocates for immigration and asylum than Clinton. She, of course, has repeatedly advocated an increase.

If you can’t find fault of her appeasing the far right by throwing immigrants to the wayside I don’t know what to tell you mate.