By David Futrelle
It’s been a few days since I last checked in on the Incels. Last time they were talking about how utterly unfair it is for women to be disgusted by their farts — when everyone knows that women just love it when Chads fart.
What are they talking about today on the Incels.is forum? All sorts of lovely things, mostly related to how much they hate women — and how utterly unfair it is that the women they hate won’t have sex with them. Also that thing above from a dude who gets horny looking at his computer mouse. And some other topics that are somehow even more horrible than that.
Here, in no particular order, are 14 of the top headlines I found on the site today. (I’m not linking to any of the topics directly; you’ll have to Google them.)
GOSH I DON’T KNOW, DUDE, WHY ON EARTH COULD THAT BE
To answer a few questions you might have after reading these headlines:
No-Toothbrush Guy maintains that brushing your teeth isn’t necessary if you eat properly.
Ass-eating Dude says he’s serious, and claims he’ll upload a video of it in a little over a year if he hasn’t lost his virginity by then. The prospect of having to do this will help motivate him to approach women, he claims. “I have been practicing and doing stretches everyday,” he writes, “so I should be able to reach in about 2 months and from there I’ll just practice actively eating my own ass.”
The “JB” Guy is talking about “jailbait” — specifically girls aged 10-15. Last I checked, every single incel responding to his post agreed with him that underage girls are the most attractive and that all men are secretly into them.
Revenge Dude lays out a plan, which I dearly hope will never be put into practice, in which he would 1) pose as a so-called Chad on Tinder, 2) get all of a woman’s info ,including her phone number, 3) make a fake escort profile using this information and finally, 4) send this profile to her friends and family members.
As I’ve said before, the tragedy here isn’t that these guys aren’t getting laid; it’s the possibility that some of them someday will. Most of these guys probably shouldn’t even be allowed to be in the same room with a woman, and should definitely not be left alone within several hundreds yards of girls under the age of 16.
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@nparker
Deny what’s in front of you all you’d like.
@nparker
She said,
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How is any of that defensible? I like her generally and am beyond tired of the media continuing to go after her relentlessly but we need to acknowledge when she fucks up.
Edit:
@Rabid Rabbit
Priscilla Poopsalot is correct, its the “autistic screeching” meme.
@GenJones
It’s all good, thanks for understanding :).
Edit didn’t work, so apologies for the double post.
@Rabid Rabbit
Priscilla Poopalot is correct; it’s the “autistic screeching” meme.
@GenJones
Its all good. Thanks for understanding. ?
I don’t see what is “indefensible” in those out of context statements. I don’t fully agree with them, but they seem like a reasonable point of view. Her foreign policy views and views on immigration were always a little more right wing than I liked.
Mostly though, I’m just sick of it. I don’t care what she said. She’s a private citizen who used to be a politician. She’s the past. Why do we need to spend days discussing this?
I am just sick to death of journalists, pundits, and supposed liberals or progressives who jump on every little thing she says or does, claiming that it proves she is EVIL! And so they start their irrational over the top attacks, their snide little remarks making light of the decades long smear campaign against her… and their attacks are so obviously unfair that I end up defending her, even though I’ve never really liked her that much. It’s like Groundhog Day, but with the 2016 election never ending.
Why? She’s not our leader. We’re not voting for her. Paul Ryan doesn’t doesn’t say anything about the things that Trump says, he just claims he hasn’t read/heard it. So why do we random people on the internet have to condemn her for some out of context remarks that maybe aren’t great? Again, she’s not a Government official, or a party official, nor will she ever be one again. She’s not running anything, nor running for anything.
Can’t we just accept that that’s her opinion, and politely disagree with it?
I went and looked it up, it seems the “autistic screeching” meme was technically unrelated. It’s apparently based off youtube compilations of the sound frogs make when they feel threatened —-> As the Pepe frog is a symbol of 4chan and the alt-right, it was associated with the “Angry Pepe” meme —>was appropriated as shorthand for their excessive resentfulness and being easily provoked when the joke is at their expense—> Profit???
Not that it really matters, if the two memes have become conflated due to admittedly striking similarities, the meta-connotations have been attached and therefore it becomes the same. I probably should consider avoiding internet lingo and memes altogether at this point, I’m not dedicated enough to keep up, and too much floating in the mainstream these days seems to trace back to crypto-fascism somehow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt4zvJNXbdI
How I long for simpler times.
Apologies for parts of my last post. Rereading it, it seems a bit harsh. Not trying to accuse people on this site of most of what I said. I spend possibly too much time on twitter.
Here’s the thing, though: Clinton delivered the remarks at a panel of former PMs/candidates. She got on a stage with Tony Blair (!) and said these things – basically, that the best way to fight fascism is to enact its policy agenda in a gentler form. Classic Clintonain triangulation. Which is not only bad governance, but is also terrible politics – too much of the populace has been radicalized for that to work anymore. After all, why vote for fascist-lite when you can vote for the real thing?
Just because she was the victim of a decades-long misogynist smear campaign doesn’t make her perfect, and remarks delivered at a forum for world leaders are absolutely fair game for criticism.
Whoa, my mouse does totally remind me of a clitoris now.
Thanks, incels!
This whole Clinton/migrant dustup reminds me of the issue when David Suzuki said “Canada’s full” and a whole bunch of racists were like “See? Even your precious David Suzuki doesn’t want immigrants!” when his point was more about how much the average Canadian consumes and how much waste is generated. Suzuki is an environmentalist, which sometimes gets in the way of his humanism.
http://rabble.ca/blogs/bloggers/hussan/2013/07/open-letter-to-david-suzuki-canadas-immigration-policy-disgusting-not-
Just because we admire him doesn’t mean we agree with him here.
The Clinton blunder is also due to her unwavering commitment to economic liberalism in my opinion.
You know, people in Europa are mad at immigrant, but because they are becoming poorer each year. Better wealth repartition would probably be a good solution to that problem, but that’s anathema to economic liberalism. Hence, a lot of political man propose litteraly any other solution, including fascism lite, because the most important thing in their opinion is to leave the wealthy continue to hog as many ressources as they can.
You say this as if it’s different from the reason USians are angry at immigrants. It’s not. They blame it on “economic anxiety.” Hillary believes more strongly in individual economic choices than I’d like, but for a US politician she’s pretty far from economic liberalism. That’s not saying much, considering USian left is really right of center, but still she was never pushing an anti-immigrant policy here on economical grounds, so I don’t think it’s correct that she’s doing it in this instance for that reason.
@kupo : I agree that it’s the exact same reason as in the US, sorry for the confusion.
I do still think the reason of that blunder is mostly that economic orthodoxy is too important to her to question. With maybe an hint of “eh, maybe I can take back some of the deplorable that way”
(for that matter, in current day France, only the litteral communist parties are not deeply economically liberal. And maybe a fringe socialist splinter.)
@ Sbel
Clinton isn’t acting like a private citizen. Private citizens don’t have that kind of influence and aren’t given her platform. She’s a very public and very political figure. I’d be very okay with everyone ignoring her statements, but that’s not what’s going to happen. It’s important to call her out for aiding fascists.