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The Daily Stormer is afraid of witches, and wants to bring back the Burning Times

This is literally what the Daily Stormer wants

By David Futrelle

The neo-Nazi internet tabloid The Daily Stormer is now declaring war on witches, and wants to bring back “the burning times.”

In a recent post on the site, contributor “Roy Batty” — presumably not the actual replicant from Blade Runner — reports the alarming (to him) news that the “Number of Witches [is] Drastically on the Rise.”  As evidence for this claim, he cites a recent piece from a sometimes-fact-challenged far-right site called CNSNews.com asserting that

the number of witches (and Wiccans) has dramatically increased since the 1990s, to the degree that there may be at least 1.5 million witches in the United States, which is higher than the 1.4 million mainline Presbyterians.

As it turns out, this is an exaggerated misrepresentation of a questionable calculation based on a mistaken reading of a survey from Pew Research. CNSNews.com got the 1.5 million figure from The Christian Post, which got it from an article on Quartz, which claimed

the Pew Research Center … found [in a 2014 survey] that 0.4% of Americans, or around 1 to 1.5 million people, identify as Wicca or Pagan.

So basically a source claiming at most 1.5 million Wiccans and Pagans got turned into a claim that there are at least 1.5 million.

On top of that, Quartz got it wrong: the actual Pew study claims only 0.3% of Americans identify as Wiccan or Pagan. (The 0.4% is for all New Age believers.) If you do the math using the current US population figures you get a little less than a million following some form of Wicca or Paganism, fewer still if you only include adults.  (Also, according to that same survey, there are roughly 4.5 million Americans who identify themselves as mainline Presbyterians; 1.4 million is the number the Presbyterian Church (USA) says are “active members.”)

But, whatever, there are a lot of witches out there, the number is apparently growing, and the Daily Stormer’s Roy Batty is feeling scared.

“I never really believed in all this bullshit,” he writes.

But recently… idk.

It’s hard to look at all this shit that’s happening in the world and explain it through economics. It’s hard to explain it even through the political lens.

He then tells a rather hard-to-believe story he claims to have heard from an unnamed “girl” who used to spend her summers in a tiny, rustic village, complete with a strange old woman who lived in an old house on the outskirts of town — and who once, the girl insisted, brought down a lightning bolt from the sky after scratching some weird symbols in the dirt outside the girl’s home while “muttering dark-sounding things” under her breath.

Now Batty isn’t quite convinced that witchcraft is real. But he doesn’t like the idea of strange women going around scaring people by scratching occult symbols in the dirt and muttering and whatnot.

All I know is that I don’t want to have to deal with that kind of shit in my life. And because my ancestors did such a good job dealing with it back then I never even thought about it as a real possibility.

But it is. 

Think about it, you might end up with a freak as a neighbor in your little condo who likes to leave dark-looking squiggles on your door or dead reptiles under your welcome mat or something.

I guarantee you that it will freak you and the neighbors out because it is so antisocial and because it is just weird in a way that we’re not used to.

But alas, Batty continues, you can’t just punch the witches until they stop.

Witching is passive-aggressive. You can’t beat her up, otherwise you go to jail. You can’t admit to anyone that she’s spooking you and your kids out because the fedoras will mob you and chew you out.

Batty proposes a rather old-school “solution” to this old-school problem: bring back the so-called burning times.

He praises his Western European ancestors for doing

a very good job ridding Europe of its witches. People don’t realize how lucky they are to live in a witch-free society. Seriously. It’s like sanitation and roads and all the other things we take for granted in White civilization.

Now that witches are growing in number again, he suggests, what we in the west really need is “for an Inquisition to come back and purge the witches from our lands.”

In other words, literal witch trials — and the genocide of a religious minority.

Now, it might be tempting to see Batty’s post as little more than typical Daily Stormer trolling — especially given his casual, often flippant tone and his utter lack of interest in doing any actual research on the subject beyond quoting an incorrect number from a questionable site and relating a bullshit story he says he once heard.

But if you look at the comments under Batty’s post you won’t find a lot of jokes there. Yes, you’ll see a comment from someone called Willy declaring that “witches are insane cat ladies from hell who will steal you rhubarb plants.”

But most of the commenters seem to take this all very seriously — and to support Batty’s murderous “solution.”

One commenter declares:

The Book of Exodus states, “Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.” This one line from the Bible is proof enough for me to believe that witches exist and should not be suffered to live.

Another adds:

k*kes are promoting witchcraft and other forms of Satanism/demon worship on normie television for kids/teenagers.

There is a supernatural world out there. Demons are real, if you doubt this, be happy you have never seen or experienced ‘meeting’ one. If you do encounter any demons, call out to Jesus Christ for assistance. Verbally. He will help you.

Listen to Gregorian chants if you’re being accompanied or stalked.

 And look, I know this sounds crazy if you aren’t used to this supernatural mumbo jumbo, I get that. Trust me though. I wouldn’t say this kind of shit for no reason.

Still another says that while he thinks witches today are just “larping … they should still be killed.”

It would be easy to dismiss this comment itself as a sort of internet LARPing, were it not for the fact that Nazis in the US have already started killing people.

We live in fucked-up times.

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Jules
Jules
6 years ago

People don’t realize how lucky they are to live in a witch-free society

Ahahahahahagaha!

If he wasn’t serious, this’d be a real hoot!

Bina
Bina
6 years ago

the fedoras will mob you and chew you out.

“Help, help, Humphrey Bogart’s hat is after me!!! And it’s criticizing me for being an intolerant DORK, too!”

It’s hard to look at all this shit that’s happening in the world and explain it through economics. It’s hard to explain it even through the political lens.

It’s only hard because you’re fucking IGNORANT, Roy…or whatever the hell your real name is. If you actually knew anything about politics OR economics, you wouldn’t find it terribly difficult at all.

People don’t realize how lucky they are to live in a witch-free society. Seriously. It’s like sanitation and roads and all the other things we take for granted in White civilization.

I wouldn’t call that lucky, Roy, ya feckin’ eejit. The bubonic plague took hold because your ignorant, superstitious ancestors thought it was a good idea to kill cats that lowered the population of plague-bearing rodents, and also wise women who knew how to cure diseases with herbal potions, for fucksakes.

And if those superstitious bozos had actually given a shit about roads and sanitation INSTEAD of witch-burnings, European society wouldn’t have suffered any Dark Ages. Instead, they had poor roads and next to NO sanitation, and they burned women and cats at the stake, and they had plagues out the wazoo. See how that works?

Oh, who’m I kidding…turning this guy into a turd, if I even had the power to do it, would be redundant. He’s already a walking, talking piece of shit.

my ancestors did such a good job dealing with it back then I never even thought about it as a real possibility.

They can’t have done THAT good a job, because despite having been burnt at the stake in previous lives, I’m still here. And I’m gonna keep coming back for as long as it takes to rid the world of fascist scum like you, too.

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
6 years ago

@Myriad

I wonder what these guys would do if they realized that there a Christian witches in the Pagan and Witch communities as well.

Whoa. This is new news to me. I had a look around the web and was able to confirm the existence of Christian witches. Thanks for this info.

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
6 years ago

@Karalora

I hope the bastard remembers it and I hope he thinks about it every time he reads the Beatitudes.

Ha, ha! Which, as we all know, would be — never.

Ooglyboggles
Ooglyboggles
6 years ago

Fear of witches? Huh? Did he just seen the Blair Witch Project for the first time?

CriticalDragon1177 (@CriticalDragon1)

David Futrelle,

Burning witches is one of the few horrible things I never thought to associate with Nazis, and now thanks to Roy Batty, that won’t be the case anymore. Thank you Roy, now I know that you little hate mongers don’t just want us to go back to the early 20th century, or even the 19th century, you want us to back to 15th century.

CriticalDragon1177 (@CriticalDragon1)

Bekabot,

You wrote,

Roy, geeky boys did not fare well at the hands of the Inquisition either. So, better be careful what you wish for. Don’t you think?

True, he probably wouldn’t share what the inquisition would consider the “right” type of Christianity either, so there’s that as well.

Talonknife
Talonknife
6 years ago

I actually wish flashy witchcraft like drawing sigils in the ground to produce lightning bolts were a real thing. Then I could actually be my D&D character IRL (although hopefully without the “unwillingly bound to an archdevil and desperately trying to figure out how to get out of it” part.) Why does the Nazis’ idea of what the world is like always sound way cooler than how things actually are?

Violet the Vile, Moonbat Screech Junky
Violet the Vile, Moonbat Screech Junky
6 years ago

@Weatherwax

The dreams are the one thing I really miss about SSRIs. They were awesome.

Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
6 years ago

Witching is passive-aggressive. You can’t beat her up, otherwise you go to jail.

…Is this whole rant just a long-winded setup for a pun about domestic violence?

Catalpa
Catalpa
6 years ago

Think about it, you might end up with a freak as a neighbor in your little condo who likes to leave dark-looking squiggles on your door or dead reptiles under your welcome mat or something.

If the alternative to this is to have a neighbor who’s a fucking Nazi, I’ll take the witch any day of the week.

Though I might try to talk her into using animal-cruelty-free spell components next time.

Gemma
6 years ago

Oh dear. The people persecuted as ‘witches’ in the early modern period weren’t Wiccans or pagans, nor were they forebears of the same. They were people with little power who fell foul of their neighbours. Some might have attempted practical magic for gain (‘maleficium’), but they weren’t non-Christians.

Moggie
Moggie
6 years ago

Yer actual Nazi Nazis were heavily into the occult, I believe, though probably only if Aryan dudes were in control of it.

Why are these fantasists getting excited about the witch menace, while totally overlooking the greater problem of evil clowns?

Diptych
Diptych
6 years ago

Also, I want to know what “shit that’s happening in the world” that OP thinks can only be explained by an occult conspiracy. I mean, when we’re talking about worrying world events, I’m concerned by the rise of far-right movements, but he presumably thinks that’s great news, so…?

Palle
Palle
6 years ago

Witchcraft and Satanism are now apparently “normie” things

These guys need to decide whether they want to be insolent internet trolls or elite master racists fighting degeneration

Violet the Vile, Moonbat Screech Junky
Violet the Vile, Moonbat Screech Junky
6 years ago

I think the fact that Mr Batty (thanks for insulting one of my favourite films by association, shit head) and his ilk are still walking around and are not suffering from Very Personal Ailments/finding themselves suddenly toads/coming out in the morning to find all four wheels have spontaneously fallen off the car is conclusive proof witches are not a threat.

If I had the ability, I would be hexin’ my little dark heart out right now

Moggie
Moggie
6 years ago

Well, there’s bad shit like wars, income inequality, spiralling debt, extreme weather events, the opioid epidemic, police brutality, and antibiotic resistance. Surely this must all be the fault of gothy women, somehow?

Mike Smith
Mike Smith
6 years ago

@weatherwax

Yes ‘mainline’ used to describe a Protestant sect is a well known term. It’s basically a way to separate the moderate-to-liberal sects from the more orthodox/conservative Evangelical (fundamentalist and Charismatic) ones, through given that the term is strictly about historical development there are exceptions on either side. Presbyterian is one of the 7 big sects in the mainline. Anglican (Episcopal) is the other big name in the group.

See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainline_Protestant

Anyway the daily stormer post reads like a internet trolling (but still dangerous) version of Malleus Maleficarum

Myriad
Myriad
6 years ago

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile said:

Whoa. This is new news to me. I had a look around the web and was able to confirm the existence of Christian witches. Thanks for this info.

Indeed they do. They usually stick with our community, and they don’t tend to advertise. ?

You are very welcome.

Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
6 years ago

apologies if this has been posted…

Ivanka trump Used Private E-mail For Government Binnis!!

Lock Her Up!!!

Amtep
Amtep
6 years ago

I guess we should have known… Trump has been ranting about being a victim of “witch hunts”, and with them it’s always, always projection.

Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
6 years ago

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buttery males….

Think about it, you might end up with a freak as a neighbor in your little condo who likes to leave dark-looking squiggles on your door or dead reptiles under your welcome mat or something.

… or one who likes to paint swastikas on my walls…? … maybe a freak as a neighbor who’ll shoot my child in my driveway for not being american-looking enough…?

Valkyrine
Valkyrine
6 years ago

I’m just picturing this guy going to see Crimes of Grindelwald and thinking it was some sort of disguised way of spreading a message of “WITCHES BE COMING FOR US” instead of a story about the rise of fascism.

Katamount
Katamount
6 years ago

@Mike Smith

Presbyterian is one of the 7 big sects in the mainline. Anglican (Episcopal) is the other big name in the group.

True, but it’s not big in the US, clearly. I mean, asking for an American Anglican is like asking about Americans who are still loyal to the British Crown in the United States. It’s just oxymoronic. So no wonder they had to pluck Presbyterianism (big in Scotland) out of their asses to fearmonger about the prevalence of Wicca. If they compared it to the tens of millions of Southern Baptists or United Methodists (or the dreaded Roman Church), that would quickly give the game away.

Besides, clearly the rise in Wicca can be traced to the works of Jim Balent:

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Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
6 years ago

Anyway the daily stormer post reads like a internet trolling (but still dangerous) version of Malleus Maleficarum

Nobody expects the channish inquisition.