By David Futrelle
The alt-rightification of the Men Going Their Own Way movement continues apace, with Reddit MGTOWs echoing racist alt-right talking points to argue, as many MGTOWs long have, that women should never have been given the right to vote.
In the MGTOW subreddit today, the regulars are discussing a meme that could have come straight from /pol/ or The Daily Stormer:
The meme echoes a longstanding alt-right complaint: that “Western” — that is, white — women have allowed themselves to become so “degenerate” that they will vote for immigrant-friendly politicians who will allow their countries to be flooded with brown and black-skinned immigrants and refugees, who will ultimately destroy the white race by intermarrying with, and having more babies than, the mostly-white populations who dominate these countries now.
The “Great Replacement,” in other words, is a slightly more euphemistic way of saying “white genocide,” which even some Nazis have realized sounds a tad ridiculous to everyone who isn’t quite so virulently racist as they are. You may recall the torch-bearing Nazis of Charlottesville chanting “you will not replace us,” sometimes switching out the “you” for “Jews.”
Many alt-right men are utterly obsessed with what they see as the traitorous role that they think white women will play (and are already playing) in their doomsday “white genocide” — er, sorry, “Great Replacement” — scenarios.
It’s not hard to see the psychosexual fears underlying this particular obsession. The Daily Stormer’s head boy Andrew Anglin regularly accuses white Western women of wanting to import “an endless supply of Black and Arab men to satisfy their depraved sexual desires,” as I noted in a recent post. Essentially, he thinks that white western women are turning white western men into “cucks” on a societal level.
Reddit’s MGTOWs don’t expose their sexual anxieties quite so nakedly. Instead of accusing western women of wanting to fuck the immigrants they welcome in, MGTOWs instead like to “warn” women that the “invaders” will rape them.
“Giving the right to vote to women was the single worst catastrophe in history,” writes a MGTOW Redditor calling himself Fantoche_Dreemurr.
Look at Sweden, the “world’s first feminist government” … aggressively ignoring the floods of feral rapists they brought in because no woman in power will ever admit she is wrong somewhere.
A commenter called cleats4u doesn’t warn so much as threaten:
You can look at Europe, see what is happening. And the American female voter will vote it in anyway. … Sorry sister, your ass is getting raped and boiled in oil. I’m growing a beard and getting a copy of the Koran.
Meanwhile, others in the subreddit go full Nazi, arguing that the alleged “Great Replacement” is being carefully orchestrated behind the scenes by, you guessed it, the Jews.
According to someone called G-Man96, “the Zionists keep pushing this on the Goyim. And the women fall for it everytime.”
Someone called wasthereadogwithyou blames white leaders of betraying their race:
It is largely a jewish effort, but they could not do it without the cooperation of white leadership/governments. The situation is now not necessarily one race vs. another race, but the ultra-rich vs. everyone else.
When another commenter insinuates that the ultra-rich are all Jewish anyway, wasthereadogwithyou replies that he thinks “white leadership is equally culpable in my eyes,” adding ominously: “Always kill a traitor first.”
Meanwhile, a commenter called asustime, who says he’s Asian, lambastes western “whyte society” for
falling for the jewmasters directive to treat the low IQ populations elevated above the asians. … in the west, the low IQ dumbsheeps are glorified while the true sustainers of civiliaztion as it currently operates on are shat on and given shit. pat your selfs on the backs dumb whytes. for falling to the jewish tricksters.
While comments like these, and others in the discussion, look a lot like the sorts of discussions you might have found in any of Reddit’s now-banned white supremacist/alt-right subreddits, or on a site like The Daily Stormer today, there are others in the thread challenging the explicit racism and antisemitism — though admittedly they’re getting downvoted, and called “cucks.”
Still, they’re not the only MGTOWs who are suspicious of the alt-right. Earlier this year I wrote about a strange little meme war going on between certain segments of the MGTOW movement and the alt-right. The alt-rightists were accusing MGTOWs of being tools of evil Jewish white-genociders who want to throw a wrench in white-baby production by avoiding marriage and women in general. The MGTOWs, meanwhile, accused the alt-rightists of being secret feminist “gynocrats” trying to bring men “back to the plantation” by pressuring them to marry white women and start pumping out babies.
While there are some on both sides of this, er, debate who will never see eye to eye, it’s striking how willing and even eager many MGTOWs are to accept frankly racist and antisemitic arguments these days.
It’s not clear to me how much this is the result of conscious recruitment efforts on the part of alt-rightists, or simply the result of the natural evolution of the already plenty hateful and reactionary MGTOW movement. But it’s clear that the ongoing convergence of the manosphere and the alt-right is showing no sign of stopping.
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