By David Futrelle
Huh. I was poking around on the Incels.is forum today, looking to see what’s up in Incel-land, when I ran across this:
… Jordan Peterson? Is that you?
NOTE TO LITERAL-MINDED READERS: I AM JOKING; THIS IS A JOKE. THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT SUPERSAIYANGYMCEL IS JORDAN PETERSON.
This is really just an excuse for me to make a joke about his literally all-meat diet (meat, salt and water only) and to post the video below, in which he reveals that the diet has done wonders for his mood. (It’s the second video; Twitter embeds things weirdly. But the first video is good, too.)
Jordan Peterson on his all-beef diet https://t.co/f6aXULymFR #GQ30 pic.twitter.com/FFM5mTu7Dx
— British GQ (@BritishGQ) October 30, 2018
I have no medical advice to give to either Mr. SuperSaiyanGymcel or Mr. Peterson, not being a medical doctor myself, but I will say that two things that have improved my life immeasurably are ANTIDEPRESSANTS and METAMUCIL.
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Let me guess: Peterson fans ranting about “context”?
OMFG, on her twitter someone is comparing Lobsterman to 1970s Germaine Greer.
Germaine Greer? OMG, Peterson didn’t pose naked for Screw magazine, did he?
Incidentally, Germaine Greer is a bit of a transphobe, AFAICR, so maybe that comparison isn’t as surprising as it seems at first sight.
Admittedly my knowledge of her is rather limited. As I recall she’s a huge TERF/FART now, but was rather near the forefront of the fight for LGB rights in the 70s.
I think he’s trying to recreate Michael Rooker’s performance in Henry: Portrait Of A Serial Killer.
@weirwoodtreehugger: even cat food wouldn’t help. Cats make their own vitamin C, it’s one of the things that allows them to be obligate carnivores. Humans can’t make vitamin C, which is why we need to eat things like fruits and vegetables. Meat (even organ meat) doesn’t have enough vitamin C to keep us from getting scurvy.
@Alan Robertshaw
? Brilliant! You win the Internet today!
Honestly, it would be such poetic justice to see this happen. Can you imagine the man-trum that would ensue? All those decades of them dining out on their discovery (sic), of having their repellent opinions on race and gender taken seriously, to have it rubbed in their faces like that! There would be generous slices of schadenfreude pie served that day and no mistake!
@Moggie, @Jesalin: Clit-o-centric Lesbian Goddess: My knowledge of Germaine Greer is pretty limited too, mostly to The Female Eunuch which I read years ago and thought there were some good ideas in, mostly where she argued against treating childbirth and child-rearing like it was some kind of bloody disease and arguing for more sensible arrangements. This has particular resonance here in Ireland for any number of reasons: historical influence of the Catholic Church restricting access to family planning and proper maternity services to the still-scandalous cost of childcare even today. But I tried re-reading The Female Eunuch recently and it’s terrible. You can see why intersectionality became a thing in later waves. The whole book is suffused with white privilege; basically, “women, people of colour and LGBT people have all been oppressed; I’m a woman, therefore, I get to use the n-word and the f-word and ALL THE WORDS. SO THERE.” And the transphobia was pretty much there from the get-go… ☹️
@Castrating Harpy:
My understanding is that just about all mammals make their own vitamin C, the exceptions being:
– many (but not all) primates, including humans
– guinea pigs/cavies, and some of their closest relatives
– many bats
My understanding is also that genetic analysis shows that the ability to produce vitamin C was the default, and each of those three groups lost the ability at completely different and unrelated points in their evolutionary history.
And yeah, no carnivores in the list.
Without Franklin there would not have been determination of the DNA double helix structure, and Watson and Crick haven’t necessarily done themselves any favours, but let’s take a look at that Nobel Prize. It was awarded in 1962. Franklin died in 1958. Nobels are not awarded posthumously.
Unlike incels, I am able to experience empathy, so I feel sorry for this idiot. Especially since I am currently taking ONE SINGLE hydrocodone per day for pain from my cyst* until I get a hysterectomy in a few weeks. I can manage with Advil during the day, but at night when I switch sides in my sleep it will usually hurt enough to wake me up, then I can’t go back to sleep. One pill about an hour before bed takes care of that; the downside being I’ve had to triple my fiber intake and keep Dulcolax handy in case that isn’t enough. I don’t know how people do heroin, or even just take a lot of pills, without dying from impacted bowels.
*Good news, the oncologist is fairly certain it’s a dermoid cyst, which are rarely malignant. I’m turning 44 a few days before the surgery, so while he’s got me cut open he wants to just yank out all my lady parts to prevent future possible tumors/cancers. Me: “I’m not using any of that equipment, go crazy.”
Also, count me in with the people who think Peterson and his daughter are just straight up fucking lying about their bullshit diet.
Didn’t Peterson also say he hadn’t slept for three months, or something impossibly absurd like that? Why does anyone believe anything he says?
(Oh I know, because he says treating women and LGBT people like shit is fine and normal and healthy, so everything he says is gold – or Patreon dollars)
re: female scientists for banknotes
I’d be tempted to suggest Mary Somerville, the person for whom the word scientist was invented (because she couldn’t be described as a man of science) but sadly she’s barely known now.
@reggie, the neighbour’s cat: Great suggestion. Mary Somerville, along with Caroline Herschel, was one of the populisers of getting women into science and mathematics in the Late Regency/ Early Victorian period. In fact, according to one biography of Ada Lovelace I read, it may well have been Somerville’s championing of women in science that gave Ada’s mother to have her tutored in mathematics to begin with (anything to suppress those dreadful poet-cooties she might have inherited from her Dad, right?)
(The same biography points out that at the start of the Victorian period when women like Somerville were at the height of their advocacy, their message was quite well received, albeit in a patronising “maybe teaching them science will help rein in all those frightful emotions, what?” way; but by the end of the 19th century it had flipped completely to “nope, too dangerous, their fragile lady-brains will simply overheat from all the SCIENCE!” Methinks some Victorian-era MRA types saw the competition and didn’t like it)
@ reggie
Ooh, I didn’t know that, thank you. Which is embarrassing because I went to Somerville College, and walked past her portrait on the way to breakfast for a large proportion of three years.
Huh, I did not know about Sommerfield, thanks for that.
However, she would be a bad choice for the English notes, as she’s already on the Scottish 10 pound note.
Sarah_kay_gee: My sympathies on the cyst. We have someone at work who has been having issues with a cyst lately, which is to say that she had 35 mls. of fluid taken out of the damn thing.
I used to have a problem where once in a while, probably related to too much sitting/too little walking/anxiety (high school), everything would just stop moving and start cramping to hell and gone. Only thing that relieved the pain was lying absolutely flat on my back with no constriction around the waist and maybe a hot water bottle. Since becoming a regular coffee drinker I have had this issue much less. So I have a certain amount of sympathy for the dudes quoted above, and I could give them some pointers, but I am not sure they would accept my advice gracefully.
@Mish
Aww, you’re welcome, Mish!
Around twenty years ago, I had a lower back problem that was bad enough to require daily opioids. I became keenly aware of the benefits of adequate hydration and fiber intake. Fortunately, the opioids are no longer needed, but I’ve kept up with the fluids and fiber.
Katamount, thanks for the Balaclava excerpt! Everything I’ve read about warfare in the XIXth century makes being killed in action sound like the least of a soldier’s worries.
I just heard that Peterson is touring the world, currently speaking here in Finland and next in Sweden. The very rational types are paying a lot of cash to see him repeat himself on stage, without playing Youtube ads first.
@Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape): Now I want a “Jordan Peterson: The Lobster Dad[1] Tour” faux heavy metal band T-Shirt, complete with tour dates and EXTREME METAL LETTERING ?
[1] Thanks, ContraPoints
I’m nomming Mary Anning. The palaeontologist who took time out from discovering everything from ichthyosaurs and plesiosaurs to the very concept of extinction to stand up and say the 1830s equivalent of “Fuck you and your patriarchy, STEMbros.” Yes.
Ugh that’s a sickening diet. I was just reading an article about doctors shaking their heads at all these ridiculous fad diets based on things like going back to caveman days and ideas that are just not scientifically sound. I assume that’s what he’s doing with his all-beef diet, although cavemen did not eat only beef, since they did not domesticate cows, so I dunno. An important part of the hunterer-gatherer lifestyle of our ancestors was the gathering part, which includes fresh fruits and nuts, and of course the meat would be varied, with fish included. There is no evidence that early man ate nothing but red meat, and even if there was, just because it’s something our ancestors did does not make it inherently more healthy. Our ancestors died young and did a lot of stupid shit.
@JessicaRed
That was actually related to this whole diet nonsense! Someone put pepper on his steak, and it afflicted him with an “existential dread” that he claimed kept him from sleeping for a month or whatever it was.