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Skeezy PUA-cum-conspiracy-theorist Roosh V claims the synagogue shooting was a false flag arranged by the Dems, the FBI, the ADL and a local JCC

Roosh V: Just asking questions. Really stupid questions.

By David Futrelle

Roosh V, everyone’s favorite rapey pickup artist and wannabe alt-rightist, has morphed into a full-fledged conspiracy theorist, pushing a bizarre false flag explanation for yesterday’s synagogue shooting — seeming to suggest that it was some sort of joint Democratic Party/FBI/Anti-Defamation League project designed to sway the elections and shut down the Nazi-friendly Twitter clone Gab, and which deliberately targeted elderly Jews because they didn’t have much life left ahead of them anyway.

At least that’s what he seems to be suggesting in a series of recent tweets.

Roosh reacted to the initial news of the mass killing by insinuating that there was something suspicious about it.

https://twitter.com/rooshv/status/1056212770885111808

Roosh, who’s been honing his anti-Semitism skills for some time, seemed upset that Jews were upset by the killings.

https://twitter.com/rooshv/status/1056217334120177664

https://twitter.com/rooshv/status/1056267011582500865

He quickly began positing that there was some sort of nefarious plot behind the shooting and the mail bombings of last week designed to benefit the “Democrat party.”

https://twitter.com/rooshv/status/1056327928873734144

Apparently the FBI and the Pittsburgh police were somehow involved in the alleged plot, alongside the Democrats and, apparently, the ADL. Roosh reported breathlessly that the FBI conducted an active shooter drill in January at the very Jewish Community Center that was attacked yesterday!

https://twitter.com/rooshv/status/1056561979169607682

There are a couple small problems with this theory. One is that preparing in case something horrible happens is not the same as planning to do that horrible thing, no matter how many conspiracy theorists insist otherwise. My grade schools and high school had plenty of fire drills when I was a kid, but the fire department didn’t sneak back later to set any of the school buildings on fire.

The other small problem with the theory is that the Jewish Community Center that was involved in the drill was not attacked, and is actually located half a mile away from the Tree of Life synagogue, which was attacked.

But in Roosh’s mind even this is suspicious — as is the fact that the alleged shooter’s Gab account was created in January, the very same month as the drill!

https://twitter.com/rooshv/status/1056565385460416513

Even by conspiracy theory standards, the alleged connections here are pretty weak.

Roosh then went on to note that “[o]ne month ago, the Senate received a bill to combat “anti-Semitism”. I have a feeling this bill will be easily passed!”

But the crowning touch, the cherry sitting atop this conspiracy sundae, is the fact that the victims of the shooter were all elderly.

 Roosh ‏ Verified account @rooshv Follow Follow @rooshv More The average victim age: 74. The shooter exclaimed "All Jews must die", but apparently not ones who have a full life ahead of them.

So, to sum up: Roosh evidently believes that The Democrats, in conjunction with the FBI, the Pittsburgh police, the Squirrel Hill JCC, the ADL, and possibly others, decided at least nine months ago to get an extremely deep cover operative (disguised as a rabid Nazi) to murder a number of carefully picked elderly Jews (who didn’t have much longer to live anyway) in order to 1) help the Dems win the midterms, 2) shut down Gab and 3) pass a bill condemning anti-Semitism.

Well, you have to admire his ingenuity, I guess.

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Bonelady
Bonelady
2 years ago

Despicable. Roosh is definitely part of the “basket of deplorables” which Hillary described.

heebee
heebee
2 years ago

Roosh is a scam artist, fooling and taking advantage out of lonely undateable men, to buy his useless so called books. Not only that, he is against women voting and womens rights in general, puts sex on a pedestal.

No is healthy for men who are struggling at all. Absolute garbage.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Sorry Roosh, you’re still not white enough for the Nazis. Quit trying to suck up to them.

Gijoel
Gijoel
2 years ago

Well, you have to admire his ingenuity, I guess.

No, no I don’t. This is a standard response of abuser who are caught abusing others. Cast the victims as perpetrators and the abusers as victims of a vast conspiracy.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Hugs and sympathy for Brazilian Mammotheers.

I keep waiting for the global political situation to hit bottom and it just keeps on not happening.

Alex
Alex
2 years ago

There is so much of this flying around. Trump accused Jews of perpetuating antisemitic attacks against ourselves in March last year, and every one of his red hat brigade takes it as gospel. I’ve seen so many hot takes on Twitter about how this is a ploy for “rich Jews to get more money” or that this was a deep cover Mossad hit to get sympathy for Israel.

Anything to avoid admitting that this is home-grown, right-wing white supremacy. Anything. Because everything that happens to Jews has to be our fault.

Dear friends of mine live in Squirrel Hill. Husband and I are mourning with them and talking about driving up to sit shiva with members of their congregation. And yet this garbage is being spewed while families are planning funerals. It’s horrific.

Virginia Howard
Virginia Howard
2 years ago

I love you Mr. Futrelle, but I won’t share this anywhere. This man should experience social death.

Bina
2 years ago

How the hell does this fucklehead even have a tweeter, never mind that blue checkmark?

And how the FUCK does his shit get likes?

And why the hell has Brazil gone fascist — AGAIN? Didn’t they learn that lesson the first time???

What is WRONG with people???

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
2 years ago

Alex, my deepest sympathies to you and your friends. I hope you continue to draw strength from each other in the days ahead.

Roosh needs to stop trying to get attention.

Katamount
Katamount
2 years ago

For once, just once, I’d like to see one of these wankers get some tangible consequences for dealing in this nonsense.

Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
2 years ago

Five-year-old on a backyard sleepover make up more believable shit. Seriously, the people who believe these conspiracy fantasies aren’t REALLY that gullible.. they just want something to excuse their bigotry

Chris Oakley
Chris Oakley
2 years ago

On a happier note(unless you’re a Dodgers fan), the Red Sox have just won the 2018 World Series.

Heirloomroses
Heirloomroses
2 years ago

On the “they didn’t have long to live,” list Roosh gives, it has two people in their 50’s. Does Roosh assume that after fifty your life isn’t worth living anymore or that this is the 1700s and life expectancy is 55?

KindaSortaHarmless
KindaSortaHarmless
2 years ago

@Chris Oakley

As a Giants fan, I suppose that’s one bright spot in an otherwise terrible week.

Sheila Crosby
2 years ago

@Heirloomroses I think Roosh considers anybody not himself to be expendable. Weirwoodtreehugger’s ight though, the Nazi’s will never accept him as one of their own. He’ll do some damage tying though.

rugbyyogi
rugbyyogi
2 years ago

The closer I get to 54 the more I think that’s not so old. At 54, I will still have children at home.

…and yes, @WWTH – absolutely, he will never be white enough for the pals he wants to make.

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
2 years ago

Roosh V, everyone’s favorite rapey pickup artist

I’m — I’m not sure I have a favorite rapey pickup artist.

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
2 years ago

Event occurs.

Everyone’s favorite rapey pickup artist* has an opinion about this event.

(Closes eyes tightly)

It’s bound to be mean-spirited, idiotic clickbait.

(Opens eyes and reads about this opinion in WHTM.)

Qu’elle surprise! It’s mean-spirited, idiotic clickbait.

* You can read about my unwillingness to immediately agree with this assertion in the preceding comment.

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
2 years ago

@David F.
What the heck, Roosh can be my favorite rapey pickup artist who has poor hygiene and has written a series of books on how to rape the women of various countries.

Kevin
Kevin
2 years ago

At 55 and living with a neurological embuggerance I still find life worth living. Roosh there are only a few people I’d like to see banished to a remote island to try out the Seagull Diet, but you are one of that select band

Marshmallow Stacey Maximal (formerly bluecat)
Marshmallow Stacey Maximal (formerly bluecat)
2 years ago

I was online for all of five minutes on Sunday before I saw social media posts blaming the Pittsburgh Synagogue massacre on…

… UK Labour party leader, Jeremy Corbyn!

From jokes about how he’d be celebrating (“with vodka” – for the Russian connection, presumably, even though he’s teetotal), to asking where he was on Saturday morning (in my area, as it happens: speaking at a conference, visiting the children’s centres that the government is about to defund, and speaking at a protest about closing fire brigade stations across the county), to asking why he “has not condemned the shooting” – which, of course, he has, to quite serious claims that the Pittsburgh murderer is “a leftist inspired by Corbyn”.

The truly depressing thing about all this is that there are people who, on hearing about a massacre, a disaster, another outbreak of human suffering and terribleness, their first thought isn’t “Oh, how awful!” or “Oh no!”, not even “What do we know about this and what do we need to learn about this?”

Instead, it’s “What lie can I make about this which will most hurt the people I disagree with?”

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
2 years ago

@ Marshmallow Stacey Maximal

I don’t even think some of them have the decency to realize it’s a lie. Some of them seem to have the first thought of “How can I blame this on [group I hate]?”

Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
2 years ago
weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

I just saw someone on Twitter call Trump a Zionist. Looks like I was right. Trump is becoming not fascist enough for these people. I’m very worried.

Marshmallow Stacey Maximal (formerly bluecat)
Marshmallow Stacey Maximal (formerly bluecat)
2 years ago

@ Victorious Parasol

Yes, I think these people have realised that, if they don’t care at all about veracity, it frees them to make up the most fantastic lies.

The example of the Trumpster shows not that there are no consequences, but that the consequences can be great!

Violet the Vile, Moonbat Screech Junky
Violet the Vile, Moonbat Screech Junky
2 years ago

Roosh, you are a totally irrelevant has-been and you smell of desperation. No-one’s interested.

Go fall down a hole.

Bina
2 years ago

@Marshmallow Stacey:

The truly depressing thing about all this is that there are people who, on hearing about a massacre, a disaster, another outbreak of human suffering and terribleness, their first thought isn’t “Oh, how awful!” or “Oh no!”, not even “What do we know about this and what do we need to learn about this?”

Instead, it’s “What lie can I make about this which will most hurt the people I disagree with?”

You’re not kidding. The shit I saw last night on Facebook about Brazil’s latest fling with fascist fuckery wasn’t just an insult to intelligence, it was a veritable paean to hardcore stupidity. And that was on a CBC news article, no less…

Also, re: Corbyn and his imaginary Russian connection: Do the Hardcore Stoopids even realize that Russia isn’t communist anymore? And that the current Russian Communist party is against Putin?

(The above questions should be read as rhetorical.)

Zemyla
Zemyla
2 years ago

David, I love you, but please don’t use the word “cum” to describe anything about Roosh, or any other PUA.

Heirloomroses
Heirloomroses
2 years ago

@Marshmallow Stacey Maximal (formerly bluecat)
So a British citizen living on the other side of the Atlantic created a plan to murder Jewish people in the US because…who knows?

Weatherwax
Weatherwax
2 years ago

I can not engage with the content of this post. Instead, there’s a thought that keeps occurring to me that I want to share.

It’s this:

If all right wing terrorism is actually “false flag”, what are the right wingers doing with all their guns? Is there some stockpile of ploughshares hidden in a wood in the Apalachians I’m not aware of?

(And is there a word more accurate than sarcasm for my tone? I’m thinking along the lines of “despairing hysteria”…)

Sarah
Sarah
2 years ago

Sigh… Roosh, it doesn’t matter how anti-Semitic you try to be. The Nazis are never going to let you into their club. You’re always going to be a “greasy muzzie” to them.

Sometimes I almost pity his sad attempts to get into the worst “cool kids” inner circle ever, then I remember that he’s an irredeemable piece of human garbage, and instead I laugh at how pathetic he is.

Jesalin: Clit-o-centric Lesbian Goddess
Jesalin: Clit-o-centric Lesbian Goddess
2 years ago

https://slate.com/culture/2018/10/tim-heidecker-trump-songs-ballad-incel-man-hias-fundraiser.html

OMFG, it’s disturbing that people are misrepresenting and trying to defend incels in the comments.

Carolyn
Carolyn
2 years ago

Delurking for a trivial point but…

Didn’t Roosh’s logo/twitter profile pic not have facial features before? Did he just add those to make him look like that NPC meme? Isn’t that kind of a self-own?

Kevin
Kevin
2 years ago

@ Carolyn His twitter logo looks like creepy hamster.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
2 years ago

Considering that the Talmud states that whoever destroys a life is as guilty as if they had destroyed the entire world, I doubt the synagogue would have participated in selecting potential victims and triaging them by age, if that’s what Roosh is insinuating.

Rose Mallinger, the oldest of the victims at 97, may not have had a “full life” ahead of her, but she would have done more good for the world in one day than Roosh will ever accomplish with the remainder of his despicable, worthless life.

Sometimes I wonder if the subtext of these false flag accusations is “here’s a ridiculously, farcically convoluted and preposterous explanation that has more chance of being true than the even more incredibly far-fetched proposition that a right-wing white male might have done something morally wrong”. It’s all Overton window positioning, designed to reinforce the status quo.

Get people to accept that it’s far more likely the synagogue attacked itself using paid actors funded by Soros than it is that a Deplorable Man Did Something Bad, and you’ve got perfect cover for right-wing white males to keep on doing morally wrong things. I mean, it’s just UNTHINKABLE that Trump supporters could be hateful. Don’t even QUESTION it. Look, a chemtrail!

[o]ne month ago, the Senate received a bill to combat “anti-Semitism”. I have a feeling this bill will be easily passed!”

Yeah, Roosh, I’m sure Mitch McConnell and the GOP will get right on that.

Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
2 years ago

@ Weatherwax:

“despairing hysteria”…

I know that feeling.

Voted today! It may be all I can do, but I fuckin’ DID IT. There was an older Native American woman in front of me, and when they asked for a foto I.D. (Kansas republican’ts best attempt to disenfranchise her), she showed it proudly (no, REALLY PROUDLY, as in arm extended, holding the I.D. up in the air toward the poll worker!) and loudly announced “I got it just for THIS!!”

His twitter logo looks like creepy hamster.

It DOES! or a chipmunk that forgot to shave…

Moggie
Moggie
2 years ago

@Marshmallow Stacey Maximal:

The truly depressing thing about all this is that there are people who, on hearing about a massacre, a disaster, another outbreak of human suffering and terribleness, their first thought isn’t “Oh, how awful!” or “Oh no!”, not even “What do we know about this and what do we need to learn about this?”

Instead, it’s “What lie can I make about this which will most hurt the people I disagree with?”

Most horrifyingly of all, this is done with relish. I get the sense that, when a tragedy happens, their reaction is to rub their hands together in glee: “This is great! I can use this!”

@WWTH:

I just saw someone on Twitter call Trump a Zionist. Looks like I was right. Trump is becoming not fascist enough for these people. I’m very worried.

In retrospect, this was probably inevitable. After all, there was little chance that Trump would be notably anti-Israel – particularly when hitched to Pence.

I’ve been saying since 2016 that the biggest danger is what comes after Trump. Unless he fails hard, he could pave the way for a more competent and more ideologically driven fascist – with the approval of millions of Americans.

Redsilkphoenix: Jetpack Vixen, Intergalactic Meanie
Redsilkphoenix: Jetpack Vixen, Intergalactic Meanie
2 years ago

A thought just struck me about the whole ‘paid actors’ thing. What acting agency is supplying all these different actors (because if the same ones keep showing up as different people it’d become obvious to even the most casual observer that something’s off). Not to mention what the pay scale is for that job (better than union scale?) , how said agency is even recruiting all these people willing to be silent about the set-up, etc. Like, the logistics aren’t impossible to pull off, but doing all that and keeping things THAT quiet, uhm……

Then again, the whole crisis actor thing isn’t exactly a new concept in world politics either, I think. I’ve heard the stories about how supposedly some mass protests in certain totalitarian countries were actually prearranged by the local Powers That Be for scoring international brownie points or something.

Supposedly there’s even some tape floating around of an Iranian mass protest where the camera pans just a hair too far, and shows some soldiers aiming their guns at the people in a ‘keep protesting or die’ pose. Don’t know if that’s true or not, or even if that’d be the correct interpretation of things if said tape does exist. Just pointing out the ‘paid protester’ concept isn’t a new idea the US Far Right just invented this election cycle.

Carolyn
Carolyn
2 years ago

@Kevin, @Weird Eddie:

I actually don’t think his twitter logo is that bad (without facial features), which is why I noticed. It just figures that Roosh would mess up one of the only examples of competent MRA graphic design just to “own the libz.”

Moggie
Moggie
2 years ago

@Redsilkphoenix, paid protesters are totally a thing. Have you forgotten the “Brooks Brothers riot” of November 2000?

Moggie
Moggie
2 years ago

Jordan Peterson has tweeted this, about the Squirrel Hill murders:

All you using (((three brackets))) online to oh-so-cleverly disguise your pathetically fashionable antisemitism might reflect today on what responsibility you bear for this

I suspect this is going to lose him a chunk of his fanbase, so… good for him, I guess (though opposing anti-semitism is really baseline decency, not something which deserves applause).

Bina
2 years ago

OMG, didn’t notice the change in Roosh’s shaggy-slob avatar till it was pointed out by Carolyn (hi, howdy and welcome!) above. It’s…um…well, it’s not an improvement. But then again, who expects better things from Doosh?

Katamount
Katamount
2 years ago

@Buttercup Q. Skullpants

Sometimes I wonder if the subtext of these false flag accusations is “here’s a ridiculously, farcically convoluted and preposterous explanation that has more chance of being true than the even more incredibly far-fetched proposition that a right-wing white male might have done something morally wrong”.

On a subconscious level, perhaps. But in this post-truth world that we live in, where everything is boiled down to a series of warring narratives, these people will deploy the narrative that absolves them of any moral culpability. So despite hoarding all the guns, despite all the triple parentheses, despite all the conspiracy theories that they throw around blaming George Soros or the Rothschilds or any number of (((globalists))), the only reason anybody would act on it would be to make the conspiracy theorists look bad.

I can’t help but think about an article from Digby’s Blog that discussed the concept of “kayfabe” and how it Trump makes use of it. When confronted about an obvious lie, the less combative Trump supporter will say something like “you gotta take him seriously, but not literally.” So that migrant caravan that they’ve been bleating about is full of MS-13 and ISIS and virile men and they’re out to steal your jobs and your wife, but come on, he doesn’t literally mean that. He’s just saying that they’re a threat to your lives in a metaphorical sense. You’re not actually supposed to go out and do anything about that beyond voting Republican or maybe buying some guns and some of our doomsday prep kits.

Because that’s the subtext of the “false flag” talking point. “It’s obvious that none of us could have done this because we all know that these conspiracy theories are just make believe we tell ourselves for any number of reasons (look smart, feel in control, blame somebody for life’s ills etc). Nobody was actually meant to believe that there was any kind of threat so dire as to take action!” Which, if you think about it, might be even more damning than being a true believer. The true believer might just be credulous and ignorant. The “false flag” proponent is a willful deceiver.

Katamount
Katamount
2 years ago

@Moggie

I think it’s going to have a lot of his fanbase scratching their heads at the very least. After all, he made his bread and butter going on a “freeze peach” crusade coupled with seeing (((Neo-Marxists))) around every corner. I could have told him that the Red Scare was at least partially rooted in anti-Semitism given Karl Marx’s Jewish ancestry, to say nothing about the flagrant anti-Semitism of the Frankfurt School “Cultural Marxism” dogwhistle. If he didn’t realize it, then maybe he should have given it some thought before decorating his house with Soviet propaganda and becoming a semi-professional Joseph McCarthy.

Moreover, with so much invested in decoupling “ideas” from concrete actions, to suddenly lay some blame at the feet of the dank memesters that traffic in the triple parentheses is rather rich coming from Mr. “Free Speech.”

heebee
heebee
2 years ago

I dont mind peterson tbh

But Roosh can fuck right off

mobiusclimber
mobiusclimber
2 years ago

He forgot the “reverse vampires.”

OctoNinja
OctoNinja
2 years ago

Well, you have to admire his ingenuity, I guess.

No I don’t. You can’t make me.

Kiwiwriter
Kiwiwriter
2 years ago

There you have it, folks: the “Vanguard of the White Race.”

Citerior Motive
Citerior Motive
2 years ago

I am not comfortable with the word ‘cum’ being in any sentence involving Roosh V.