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Blazing hot takes on mail bombs from the #MAGA crowd

Yes, they’re already starting to make NPC memes about it

UPDATE, FRIDAY 10/26: They’ve nabbed a suspect, a 56-year-old Florida man whose van is covered with pro-Trump stickers, alongside “CNN SUCKS” stickers and  pictures of Hillary Clinton and other Democrats depicted in crosshairs. Somehow I don;t think this is going to stop these people from crying “false flag.” 

By David Futrelle

At yet another of his endless series of rallies this Wednesday night, Donald Trump responded to the news that pipe bombs were sent to the homes and offices of a number of his top Democratic bete noires, as well as to CNN, another favorite Trump target, by offering only the vaguest possible condemnations of these acts of terrorism.

He decried the current poisonous state of political discourse, without acknowledging himself as the prime poisoner, And then he launched into a tirade blaming the news media for its alleged “endless hostility and constant negative and oftentimes false attacks.” It’s almost as if he were suggesting that CNN deserved to receive the bomb found in its mailroom today.

The White House reportedly has not reached out to any of the Democrats targeted in the bomb attacks.

Trump’s graceless and self-serving response to this attempt to kill many of his most hated political opponents speaks volumes about the man. And so do the responses of many of his biggest fans online and in the right-wing media world. I’ve spent much of the day scanning the responses to the bombings amongst the MAGA crowd on Twitter and Gab, and let’s just say it hasn’t been pretty.

Most of the devoted MAGAheads seem to be going with the claim that this was all a “false flag” by the Dems — possibly paid for by George Soros, who was himself targeted with a mail bomb only a few days ago.

Nationalist, Deplorable Maggie ‏ @Maggie100862 Follow Follow @Maggie100862 More ⁦@DorothyGale_Oz⁩ If this False Flag , HOAX DEVICES don’t divert and distract the Liberal Soros bought & paid for Caravan or the FAILED BLUE WAVE that is barely a ripple, the following is what the Liberal/ Democrats are planning next. GOP is WINNING we don’t need violence

AMERICANPATRIOT ‏ @1776MAGA1 Follow Follow @1776MAGA1 More #midterms democrats stage a false flag attack onto themselves in desperate attempt to put their zombies back in line befor the elction. They tried Rape, they tried RUSSIA ? They tried rape again / Kavanaugh /now theyre sending fake bombs with fake postal stamps #redtsunami

InRealTyme ‏ @DwDrew59 Follow Follow @DwDrew59 More Replying to @WOTUSisme False Flag FBI CIA Deep State

Lauren ‏ @MissLaurenL Follow Follow @MissLaurenL More Today’s events is a Reichstag Fire false flag perpetrated by the deep state Democrats. This isn’t MAGA camp’s doing because that isn’t how Reichstag Fire false flags work, so please educate yourself before you claim it is. #bombscare

Quite a few of the false flag theorists appear unaware that caps-lock can be turned off.

GW Invader ‏ @littlecooper763 Follow Follow @littlecooper763 More Replying to @Dawn_DeMore1 @GrrrGraphics DEEP STATE ACTIVISTS=MANUFACTUR A CENTRAL AMERICAN INVASION OF THE SOUTHERN BORDER+USING PAID INVASION FORCE+AS A FINALE USE A "FALSE FLAG" BOMBING SCARE OF A UNSYMPATHETIC CAST OF CHARACTERS AKA: SOROS, CLINTONS, BRENNAN, CHUCK, NANCY, MAXINE, DEBBIE, FILL-IN-THE-BLANK=PLAYBOOK!

Isaiah Fifty Three (RUSSIAN SPY FOR PUTIN) ‏ @FiftyIsaiah Follow Follow @FiftyIsaiah More Isaiah Fifty Three (RUSSIAN SPY FOR PUTIN) Retweeted Breaking911 THEYRE PLANTING FAKE BOMBS AT THEIR OWN HOUSES TO BLAME RIGHT WING TERRORISTS! WAKE UP, SOON THEY WILL DO A FALSE FLAG AND BLAME RIGHT WING CHRISTIANS AND OUR GUNS... SPREAD THIS EVERYWHERE WAKE UP THE WORLD WE KNOW ABOUT THEIR SCAMS NOW #Qanon #ThanQTrump #MAGA #JesusIsLORD

Other conspiracy theorists constructed their tweets almost entirely out of hashtags.

Max Genao ‏ @fussaboy Follow Follow @fussaboy More #RealNews the #Democrats controlled #FakeNewsMedia #Propaganda machine the #EnemyOfThePeople @MSNBC @CNN @ABC @CBS @AC360 #CNNPC wont tellU #WakeUpAmerica #WalkAway Its a Democrats #FalseFlag desperation ahead of #Midterms2018 just like #BrettKavanaugh #RapeHoax led by #MSM cabal

For this fellow, the only real bomb is that … caravan of Honduran refugees.

A few ingenious tweeters even managed to work the NPC meme into the mix.

#SpaceForceWizard #LightWarrior #Kekistani ?? ‏ @DreamwalkerWC Follow Follow @DreamwalkerWC More Replying to @Hirdman @gatewaypundit Bad false flag is bad. Everything about this screams sloppy Cabal attempt to steer narrative, blame it on Trump, shift focus from caravan, ostracize #MAGA.

eden novak ‏ @eden_novaq Follow Follow @eden_novaq More Fake bombs, Fake outrage, Fake compassion, Fake facts, Fake Science, Fake refugees.. It's all an illusion. It's a game. We've been played for.fools. #bombscare #BombHoax #GreatAwakening "You are watchinga movie" -Q #QAnon #mockingbird

This guy thinks it’s all an elaborate plot to distract from … tech companies reporting strong earnings.

凹三凸 ‏ @wild_stallion_3 Follow Follow @wild_stallion_3 More False Flag bombs are a distraction. tech company earnings reports come out today and tomorrow. They are beating all estimates. This is despite a huge stock drop over the past few months. Shows the power of Cabal stock manipulation. Maybe this explains the sloppy bombs.

Some of the false flag theories have gotten fairly baroque already:

Betzalel Maggid ‏ @dreamrunes Follow Follow @dreamrunes More Replying to @RealCandaceO @RandyYoung22681 They were probably sent by the Cabal, to remind them to keep in line. Espically as this whole Qanon thing heats up with the 51,000 sealed indictments pending. The Cabal is trying to remind them whos in charge.

David Rieman ‏ @RiemanDavid Follow Follow @RiemanDavid More Replying to @LionelMedia I think the white hats sent obviously fake "bombs" to the probable recipients of future cabal targets in order to thwart the real attacks. That way the white hats can say, the Dems are creating false flags also neutralize this attack vector. Sort of like a vaccine.

Only some of the “false flag” criers tried to offer any proof to back up their claims. As for those who did, let’s just say that their arguments are a little less than airtight.

Some think it has to be a liberal/lefty plot because if right-wingers had sent bombs in the mail, the bombs would have worked.

ThePatriotPub ‏ @thepatriotpub Follow Follow @thepatriotpub More Replying to @MikeTokes They (Democrats) didn’t exploit it, they staged it. If an American Patriot did this, they would have succeeded. That’s how we all know it was a Democrat false flag. MAGA patriots have shown extreme constraint and will continue to be true to our structure, laws, constitution.

Joseph ‏ @TechGuru1 Follow Follow @TechGuru1 More Replying to @qanon76 @jonswaine It stinks to high heaven. 1st the bombs dont work = just like democrats 2nd the spelling was awful = just like democrats 3rd it really looked like they wanted to have them all discovered for maximum press coverage = just like democrats #FalseFlagAsWeToldYou #QAnon

Some suggest that it has to be an inside job on the part of the Dems — because Florida Dem Debbie-Wasserman Schultz put her return address on the bombs!

THEY LITERALLY THINK THE FACT THAT WHOEVER SENT THE BOMBS PUT HER (MISSPELLED) NAME ON IT … PROVES IT WAS REALLY HER.

One of the many pushing this particular angle? Sarah Palin. But there were many more.

Chad Anson Robbins ‏ @chadarobbins Follow Follow @chadarobbins More Replying to @Amy_Siskind Omg This is all a Democrap distraction.. it’s already came out the return address was a Democrat lol. Good luck dumbass dems. Open your minds ppl. Democrats are all about distraction and lies. Bye bye democraps . If you actually think this is a legit act of terror your wrong

Me ‏ @altumolillo Follow Follow @altumolillo More THEY CAN'T EVEN FAKE TERRORIZE THEMSELVES RIGHT!??? BREAKING: Return Address Found On Suspicious Packages Belongs To Well-Known Democrat

Randy Young ‏ @RandyYoung22681 Follow Follow @RandyYoung22681 More Replying to @dreamrunes @RealCandaceO It's funny how the return address on a couple of the packages are connected to Debbie Waserman-Schultz lol Its got false flag written all over it.

My favorite galaxy-brain version of this argument? That Wasserman-Schultz put her own address on the bombs … to draw attention away from her!Laurentiius ‏ @Laurentiius Follow Follow @Laurentiius More Here's one theory anyway. Who would put their return address on the bombs???? Unless, she didn't want to be suspected. Only as another #Democrat #moron. To suggest she wasn't involved.

Wheels within wheels.

After the crowd at Trump’s rally today started chanting “lock her up” — this was before Trump himself went onstage — many liberal and lefty observers wondered aloud if that chant might change to “blow her up” (or “blow them up”) later in the evening. It didn’t, but some in MAGA-land clearly think that prospect is hilarious.

" blow her up!!" blow her up!!"

Carol Ayers‏ @godislove524  More Replying to @w_terrence Too bad they didn't blow them up!!

Of course, many of the MAGAheads insisting that they would prefer locking her up to blowing her to bits say it’s because they want the chance to watch her suffer … before she is executed. TheTruffleShuffle @TheTruffleShuffle  9 minutes ago · in News This is the deception we expect from a Democrat.. Conservatives want to see Hillary Clinton #LockedUp, not blown up. Killing the traitorous wench gives her the easy way out. Americans want to see her masks ripped off in trial, we want to see her convicted, and we want to see her sentenced to death for her criminal acts.

Terri Thomas‏ @TerriTh2014  More Replying to @fedupwithit31 @LisaMei62 Why would we blow them up when it would be more entertaining to watch it unfold in front of the world to see. We know their crimes. We want you to witness it too. Besides I have lots of popcorn.

We’re down the rabbit hole now. And the rabbit hole is full of shit.

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Moggie
Moggie
6 years ago

Bomb suspect arrested! Cesar Sayoc Jr. Googling for that name turns up someone of the same age and location, and says that he’s a registered republican. Oops.

Moon_custafer
Moon_custafer
6 years ago

It’s entirely possible their original plan was to kill the recipients, but since that hasn’t happened (so far; fingers crossed), they’re currently telling their fellows that blowing up any of these public figures would just have made them martyrs and that it’s far cleverer to intimidate and that that was their plan all along. When they get caught, they will no doubt use that as their defense argument as well.

Moggie
Moggie
6 years ago

@Mish:

@Moggie, I’ve just seen your new avi photo! Cute white cat blep

That’s Shiro, possibly the world’s most relaxed cat (google for shironeko).

It’s scary to see the mainstreaming of this “false flag” narrative. It’s a familiar conspiracist trope, but this time it’s not just fringe figures pushing it – and that feels dangerous.

Moggie
Moggie
6 years ago

Claims that bomb suspect’s van is covered in Trump stickers:

https://twitter.com/JordanChariton/status/1055841312921018373

Moggie
Moggie
6 years ago

Seems like this may be the alleged bomber’s twitter:

https://twitter.com/hardrock2016

And it’s… hmm. Let’s just say that if those posts are representative of his state of mind, I would be concerned to live near him.

Gaebolga
Gaebolga
6 years ago

Moggie wrote:

Bomb suspect arrested! Cesar Sayoc Jr. Googling for that name turns up someone of the same age and location, and says that he’s a registered republican. Oops.

No, see, it was a deep state false flag operation. Soros paid their operative to join the Republican party back in the ’80s, at the direction of Hillary Clinton, to throw people off the scent….

Makroth - cowboy Jacobin from Hell
Makroth - cowboy Jacobin from Hell
6 years ago

It seems he was caught:

Makroth - cowboy Jacobin from Hell
Makroth - cowboy Jacobin from Hell
6 years ago

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Moggie
Moggie
6 years ago

Seems he identifies as Seminole? Shaking my head at the thought of Native Americans supporting Trump.

Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
6 years ago

https://freethoughtblogs.com/stderr/2018/10/25/fake-bomb/

Marcus Ranum plays some sort of expert on, this, if you’re interested. I’ll quote one of his comments as an addendum to his recent blog post.

I agree with all of you who are saying it doesn’t matter if they are working bombs or not.

Personally, I found it comforting that I could look at the picture and immediately assess it as an empty threat. As we saw with UNABOM a letter bomb can severely maim a person and not kill them. I don’t want anyone to get wounded or killed. So I was happy to know that wasn’t going to happen with this set of bombs – but I worried because sometimes it means the bomber is going to level up their game. I was happy that the bomber appeared to have really bad tradecraft.

It’s going to be interesting how this drama plays out.

I probably will post more about this story, because there are some interesting things I noticed in how the media reported it. But I’m glad nobody was hurt and I am sure the bomber is about to have a really bad rest of his life.

Jenora Feuer
Jenora Feuer
6 years ago

@Moggie:
Well, you have to admit that Native Americans have much more historical reason to complain about ‘disease-bearing immigrants’ than modern white Americans.

@Lumipuna:
Yes, I saw that post earlier. I remember Marcus from Bruce Schneier’s blog as well. He may be right about a lot of this, but honestly, back when I read his post I thought that ‘idiot who only thinks he knows what he’s doing’ was still more likely than ‘deliberate fake’.

Of course, Marcus’ comments on ‘really bad tradecraft’ have been borne out by just how quickly the suspect was tracked down

Robert
Robert
6 years ago

“Unconquered Seminole Tribe”?!

That’s a new one on me. The rest is dismayingly predictable.

Scildfreja Unnyðnes
Scildfreja Unnyðnes
6 years ago

I’m glad they caught him.

Fun little detail: on Fox News coverage of this guy, they are blurring the stickers on the van. I guess it’s sorta tough to go railing on about democrats and brown people when the terrorists are using all of your catch phrases.

Rabid Rabbit
Rabid Rabbit
6 years ago

Re: David’s update.

As expected, the denials of the evidence have begun: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/oct/26/trump-supporters-sceptical-about-pipe-bomb-arrest

I particularly like the “Have you stopped to consider why only high-level Democrats were targeted?” one. People no longer send bombs to people they disagree with, they send bombs to people they agree with so that those they disagree with get the blame. Also, water is dry and the sky is green.

Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
6 years ago

@Moggie, I’ve no idea how I’ve managed to live until now, without knowing about Shironeko. You’re a gem 🙂
Coincidentally, I have a Shiro myself, although his temperament is nothing like Shironeko’s, except that he also sleeps a lot. My Shiro is rather high-strung when he’s awake.

http://i67.tinypic.com/2nbf3pz.png

Sorry all, that I’m babbling about cats. Every time I venture onto Twitter, I encounter more bizarre discussions of the pipe bombs and the arrest, and I’m having trouble accepting that we live in the same world as some of these folk.
I see that the packaging of the suspect as mentally ill is in full force – sadly, from many leftie people as well as the right.

Prophet309
Prophet309
6 years ago

@Mish

Kitty! So fluffy ^_^

Redsilkphoenix: Jetpack Vixen, Intergalactic Meanie
Redsilkphoenix: Jetpack Vixen, Intergalactic Meanie
6 years ago

@Robert,

The ‘Unconquered’ bit may be referring to the fact that the Seminoles were the only Native tribe to not sign a peace treaty with the US government way back when. Plus when the government tried to evict them from Florida, they weren’t 100% successful.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seminole

Pretty fascinating history of the tribe there.

And yes, the Seminoles have publicly stated this guy isn’t a member of their tribe, nor worked at one of their businesses. They’re still trying to see if he might’ve been an employee of one of their vendors, though.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/newsmaven.io/indiancountrytoday/api/amp/indiancountrytoday/news/seminole-tribe-of-florida-arrested-magabomber-cesar-sayoc-is-not-a-member-HO1eoexVoE2N_a8Bf47mBg/

tim gueguen
6 years ago

There have been reports that Sayoc’s father immigrated to the US from the Philippines in the ’60s.

Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
6 years ago

@Prophet309, he’s a floof all right, but Mei-Mei is even floofier, and her tummy fur is fleecy lil curls ?