By David Futrelle
On Thursday, former Iowa youth basketball coach Greg Stephen pled guilty to multiple child exploitation and child porn charges after admitting to sexual exploiting some 400 boys, including players he coached, over the course of many years. The details of the case are truly horrifying. As the Associated Press notes,
Stephen, 42, posed as girls on social media to trick the boys into making live videos masturbating. He secretly recorded them showering during trips to tournaments. In some cases he recorded himself fondling nude players as they slept.
Despite the appalling nature of Stephen’s crimes, his case has gotten very little media attention since his arrest last March.
It has also gotten zero attention from the Men’s Rights subreddit, the largest and most active men’s rights forum online, with nearly 200,000 subscribers.
After learning of Stephen’s plea deal I went to the Men’s Rights subreddit to see what the regulars there were saying.
Turns out they were saying absolutely nothing. As of 6 PM this afternoon — Saturday, October 20th — I could not find a single post dealing with the case. After scouring the top 100 posts in the subreddit, I did searches for posts containing Stephen’s name, as well as separate searches for “Iowa,” “basketball” and “coach,” from the past week. Nothing.
I extended the search to include posts from “all time,” and it appears that Stephen’s appalling crimes have never been discussed on the Men’s Rights subreddit. Not even once. (Unless they somehow managed to discuss his case without using his name or mentioning his profession or the number of his victims.) Apparently not one of the subreddit’s 191,917 subscribers has thought the subject important enough to bring up.
Here are some of the things they ARE discussing on the subreddit today.
There are also no less than 34 or 35 (I lost count) posts about “false accusations” in the top 100 posts there now — that is, roughly a third of the total.
It’s not that Men’s Rights Redditors don’t care about the sexual abuse or exploitation of boys. There are several posts about female teachers sexually assaulting their underage students, a post about a damning year-old report from Australia’s Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse, and multiple posts about a 9-year-old boy falsely accused of sexually assaulting a woman in a convenience store after he accidentally brushed her with his backpack while walking past her. (He’s black; she’s white.)
These are all issues worth discussing, though the spin that the Men’s Rightsers put on these stories can be, well, a little eccentric, to say the least.
Uh, the problem with this woman isn’t her age, her looks or her allegedly “predatory” nature — there was nothing sexually predatory about her actions at all — but the fact that she’s a racist asshole who called the police on a black child who accidentally brushed against her.
But that’s a whole other can of worms. My point here is that Men’s Rights Redditors only seem interested in talking about the abuse or mistreatment of boys when women are (or are among) the perpetrators.
Indeed, they are so unwilling to acknowledge that men are often the perpetrators of this abuse and mistreatment that they are willing to completely write off the FOUR HUNDRED victims of Greg Stephen.
It’s almost as if the Men’s Rights movement isn’t about helping men or boys at all but is rather an excuse for a never-ending tantrum about the alleged evils of women and feminism.
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It’s as if MRAs don’t actually care about addressing men’s actual problems and only use use their forum to bellyache about rotten women.
Someone should make a thread in the MRA subreddit. Just call it Greg Stephen. Link a news article. See what reaction it gets, if any.
Apparently, committing sexual abuse IS a men’s right…no wonder they’re silent about it when men do it. They don’t see anything wrong with it. They’re just mad that they don’t all get free rein to do it anymore, and that’s because feminists have raised the red flag on it. That’s why they hate feminists…and project all kinds of false “predatory female” accusations onto them to deflect from what “men’s rights” actually ARE all about. They hate us because we’re impeding them from raping us, and kids, and other men too. This cannot be repeated enough.
I have never once seen an MRA talk about men or boys who are assaulted or abused by men.
Actually, scratch that. I have. They call them cucks.
And off topic, but my grandmother died last night, so any cute animal pics people have on hand would be much appreciated.
http://www.animalspot.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Baby-Kinkajou-Pictures.jpg
http://2damnfunny.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Confession-Bears-Mom-Gives-Son-a-Stern-Talking-To.png
Hello, fellow snowflakes! Long time reader, first time commenter!
It’s strange. Usually when someone brings up things like “men are victims too” and “people are unsympathetic to male victims of sexual harassment/abuse,” (both of which are true regardless of who it comes from), it’s coming from someone who’s more interested in shutting down the conversation rather than add to/start a conversation. MRAs were big offenders of that. Now I guess they’re just dropping the talking point altogether.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgIgKcqPd4k
https://metro.co.uk/2017/07/10/23-cute-kittens-to-get-you-through-a-tough-week-6760550/
OK, why is it claiming I forgot to trim the “s” off “https” in the youtube link when I did not forget?
Remember when MRAs at least pretended to care about male victims of sexual abuse? Seems they just dropped the act altogether.
@WWTH:
So sad to hear that. Will video also help?
weirwoodtreehugger-I’m so sorry to hear about your grandmother! Lots of hugs to you! Also, here is a large selection of cute Australian native animals and birds for you.
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Thanks for all the cuteness!
https://www.mnn.com/family/pets/stories/new-york-dogs-bags-subway-ban
This document tells me that 93% of sex offenders are male*. Is it at all surprising that these creeps don’t actually give a shit about male survivors of sexual assault?
http://www.casa.org.au/casa_pdf.php?document=statistics
*It doesn’t specify, but I’m assuming that means AMAB.
The “Men’s Rights”* movement is a bigot’s idea of what social justice is like.
*which never seems to care about men, or rights
Or good women, even. To them, there’s no difference.
PLEASE SOMEBODY DO THIS! I’d LOVE to see what happens!
I’m sorry about your grandmother. *HUGS*
Here’s my Fuzz Therapy contribution….
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….I added fuzz with a bit of pizzazz!
Welcome to WHtM, friend!
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WWTH, my sympathy and condolences for your loss.
@wwth
My condolences.
WWTH: You have my deepest sympathies. My grandmother passed in September. If you are interested in my advice, try to remember the good times you had with her. She may no longer be present on this plane of existence but you hold her love and memories as long as you live.
@wwth
hugs
@SpukiKitty
It’s too bad most of the links in that are dead. It would have been interesting to re-visit NWO’s Big Book of Learnin’ after all these years.
@WWTH: I’m so sorry. I know that’s really hard. It sucks that you are going through that.
@Spukikitty: omg, “bigot’s idea of social justice” is such a perfect way to descibe MRAs plus any other supremacist group!