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Men need to creep on “prime jailbait” to protect themselves from getting “stuck with an old hag for more years than is necessary,” incel creeper explains

Detail from “The Irritating Gentleman,” (1874) by Berthold Woltze.  (Speech bubble not in original)

By David Futrelle

When an adult man hits on, or simply obsesses about, underage girls, most of u see that as predatory behavior. Heck, the word “predator” is even in the title of that old Dateline Series with Chris Hansen.

But not so fact! According to one ingenious fellow posting on the Incels.me forum, it’s not creepy for adult men like him to salivate over “prime jailbait.” It’s basically a form of sexual self-defense. You see, women age — no really! –and only by pursuing young teen girls can men protect themselves from getting trapped for life by a woman who will grow old and ugly on them.

“The point of getting with a 15-year-old girl isn’t just a preference for 15-year-old girls,” writes Leucosticte, a prolific commenter on Incels.me with nearly 1300 posts to his name. “it’s also a preference to NOT be stuck with an old hag for more years than is necessary.”

That’s the tl;dr. But the route Leucosticte takes to get to this conclusion is somehow even creepier than the conclusion itself. So let’s go through it.

Leucosticte starts off his post by portraying men as hapless victims of an army of purple-haired fat girls oppressing them by being purple-haired fat girls in their presence — thus preventing these poor fellows from getting the “looksmatched” partners that are evidently their birthright.

Most men these days, even betas, will not get their looksmatch. So many girls these days are mentally and physically unsuitable for producing offspring with, because they’re venereally-diseased sluts, morbidly obese landwhales, and/or borderline-personality-disordered, purple-haired, septum-pierced freaks, that there’s not much left to choose from, for those men who even have the luxury of a choice.

Such oppression!

That’s a tough pill to swallow, but what’s even worse is that women age a lot less gracefully than men. That means, even if — by some miracle, given the realities of today’s sexual marketplace — she starts out being your looksmatch, as time goes on, your looks will still be pretty close to what they are now, but hers will go into a much steeper decline.

By contrast, incels age like fine wine whine.

Eventually she’ll be an old hag who’s an embarassment to be seen with.

Because apparently the most important thing about having a girlfriend or wife is what complete strangers think about her looks relative to yours.

You see this all the time — a good-looking guy in, say, his 40s or 50s, is with his agematched wife, who’s now so wrinkly that she looks the creature from the black lagoon, only uglier.

Honestly, no, I don’t see that all the time. Sure, I’ve seen conventionally attractive men walking hand-in-hand with less conventionally attractive women, but I’ve also seen plenty of “pretty women out walking with gorillas down my street,” as the Joe Jackson song has it, Most of the time, though, the straight couples I’ve encountered in my life have tended to be roughly “looksmatched” — that is, both partners are similarly situated on that supposedly objective ten-point scale so beloved by pickup artists and incels alike.

I have yet to meet anyone who even vaguely resembles a fictional aquatic monster-person.

No matter how successful he may become, he’s still lower-status, in a way, than a teenaged Chad who gets to be with a fresh jailbait, because he doesn’t have that same privilege of enjoying that tight, youthful pussy.

I would offer some sort of rebuttal here but I’m too busy throwing up in my mouth a little.

Imagine working hard your whole life and realizing, your only reward is money and power that can’t be converted into the only currency that matters, i.e., sexual access to fertile teenage girls.

The only “currency” that matters to you, you creepy fuck.

As you become middle-aged, if you’ve stayed in good health, your dick will continue to be capable of getting just as hard as it does now (when you’re given the proper stimuli); but your wife’s pussy will loosen significantly over time, so it’s not just her form but also her function that will decline.

I would say something about it being pretty obvious that this guy has never actually been with an older woman, but it’s even more obvious that he has never been with any human females of any age.

You’ll be walking through the house and wonder, “What’s that weird smell?” and then realize, it’s just the accumulated sweat under her sagging breasts that’s starting to stink like an armpit.

Well this is a new one to me. I had no idea that middle-aged married men were being oppressed by their wives’ … underboob BO?

Her female appendages are no longer as pert and bouncy as they once were; they’ve fallen and they can’t get up. She needs to call Life Alert.

This is clearly a guy whose entire understanding of human anatomy comes from anime. It’s perhaps appropriate to point out that his avatar on Incels.me is an anime schoolgirl tied down on a deck.

This is all just part of marriage, but it should at least be staved off as long as possible into the future. The point of getting with a 15-year-old girl isn’t just a preference for 15-year-old girls (although that does have a certain allure); it’s also a preference to NOT be stuck with an old hag for more years than is necessary.

I’m going to let Jennifer Lawrence handle the response to this one.

Thet’s not really strong enough. Let’s have another go at it.

Still not enough.

Closer. Let’s add a bit of this:

And a couple of these:

Combine in pot. Bring to a boil, stirring occasionally.

When you’re forced to settle for an older foid, you not only get fewer years with her when she’s in her youthful prime, but you’re subjected to more years with her when she’s such a dessicated, walking corpse-like bag of decayed flesh that every day when you wake up in the morning and see her lying next to you, you panic initially before you sigh with relief to realize, it’s not actually the zombie apocalypse, but just another day with your wife.

Jennifer?

The world’s biggest pile of bullshit, possibly.

Still, it’s a real punch to the gut to realize (maybe after having had a nice dream of teenage pudenda) that she’s all you’ll EVER have from that point onward; and not only that, but her looks will continue declining even further until finally the grim reaper mercifully arrives to take her away.

Sorry, Ms. Lawrence, we’re still not done here yet.

Leucosticte keeps digging his hole deeper:

But even then, you STILL can’t get with a prime jailbait because that would be considered gross, disgusting, predatory, etc. even if you haven’t aged too badly and a lot of chicks would actually prefer an older man such as yourself.

We return you now to the red carpet where Jenifer Lawrence has some more thoughts on the question of whether young women are desperate to bang middle-aged incels.


Just when you thought it couldn’t get worse, Leucosticte brings in Ivanka Trump.

Why do you suppose Trump is so fond of Ivanka? He got to be with her throughout her youthful prime, and she’s still a lot younger than him.

WHAT!? Is Leucosticte confusing Melania (Trump’s latest wife) with Ivanka (his favorite daughter)? Or does he actually mean to say Ivanka.

As [Trump] says, 35 is check-out time. But, if you’re not allowed to check out, at least if you’ve been with her since she was, say, 15, that’s 20 years of memories you can treasure and look back on as you’re trying to get aroused enough to get an erection you can shove into the cleft between the arthritic legs of the half-mummified living carcass that is her body.

Come on, man, you’re making J Law go dead inside.

Leucosticte now decides to bring Brett Kavanaugh into the mess.

I think the reason Kavanaugh mentioned he was a virgin throughout high school and college is to make the point, “I didn’t even get ANY teenage pussy, so that makes it all the worse that now I have to pay a penalty as though I did try to rape a girl in her nubile prime. I should at least get to do the crime if I’m going to do the time.”

Er,

I’m not sure how much more of this I can take.

He spent all those decades orbiting dozens of chicks, and people don’t even want to consider those girls’ statements about his character credible. If he doesn’t get confirmed,

(This was posted before Kavanaugh was confirmed.)

he might as well just flip out and go ER [Elliot Rodger], because that means the Senators think he’s a rapist, which for him would be the epitome of getting cucked.

Yes, that’s right. He honestly suggested that if Kavanaugh hadn’t been confirmed to the supreme court, he would have been reasonable for him to go murder a bunch of people as revenge for the fact that he didn’t score himself some “primo jailbait” back in high school

That’s how these guys think.

L Jaw, any thoughts from you on this weird twist ending to Leucosticte’s terrible post?

Aw, crap. I think Leucosticte broke Jennifer Lawrence. I feel kind of bad for bringing her into the middle of all this in the first place.

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weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

So many girls these days are mentally and physically unsuitable for producing offspring with, because they’re venereally-diseased sluts, morbidly obese landwhales, and/or borderline-personality-disordered, purple-haired, septum-pierced freaks, that there’s not much left to choose from, for those men who even have the luxury of a choice.

Just as many men have STIs. Just as many men have piercings, tattoos and dyed hair. Just as many men are fat. So what’s the problem? People still get to be looksmatched!

That’s a tough pill to swallow, but what’s even worse is that women age a lot less gracefully than men. That means, even if — by some miracle, given the realities of today’s sexual marketplace — she starts out being your looksmatch, as time goes on, your looks will still be pretty close to what they are now, but hers will go into a much steeper decline.

I keep hearing from the manosphere that men are all super hot and desirable in their middle age. Yet I keep looking around and not seeing tons of George Clooneys around me? Where are all these George Clooneys I keep getting promised? Because where I’m from, the men seem to display the same aging signs as women. Except for they also get bald.

You see this all the time — a good-looking guy in, say, his 40s or 50s, is with his agematched wife, who’s now so wrinkly that she looks the creature from the black lagoon, only uglier.

How much do you want to bet that he saw a middle aged man taking his mother out to brunch or something, mistook them for an age matched couple and got all freaked out?

Imagine working hard your whole life and realizing, your only reward is money and power that can’t be converted into the only currency that matters, i.e., sexual access to fertile teenage girls.

Poor oppressed men. All they have is money and power. So sad!

I’m not even touching the Ivanka stuff.

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Eldridge the Cleaver
Eldridge the Cleaver
2 years ago

I’m literally starting to believe an extremely significant proportion of heterosexual, cisgendered men are rapists.

Seriously, my entire experience reading your blog David has taught me this.

Handsome :Punkle Stan: Jack

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Malice W Underland
Malice W Underland
2 years ago

I’m getting a septum piercing in a couple of days. Following this blog was the little thing that clinched my decision (seriously). I’m in my late 30s and probably aging out of trendy body modifications, but I definitely haven’t aged out of being creeped on, and the fact that creepers apparently really hate facial piercings made me want to do it that much more.

Bina
2 years ago

“The point of getting with a 15-year-old girl isn’t just a preference for 15-year-old girls,” writes Leucosticte, a prolific commenter on Incels.me with nearly 1300 posts to his name. “it’s also a preference to NOT be stuck with an old hag for more years than is necessary.”

Dude, with a “preference” for 15-year-old girls, you’re not in danger of getting “stuck” with anyone. Not an old woman; not a younger woman. Not even an immature young thing who’s barely begun to menstruate, and whose biggest concern is not how to please your dick, but how to stop getting pimples. Fess up: You’re that creepy 40ish guy at the mall, the one who lurks around the food court glaring over stacked trays at everyone, aren’t you?

Either that, or you’re somebody who doesn’t get out nearly enough. Not even to the food court. Because what you’re seeing out there…

So many girls these days are mentally and physically unsuitable for producing offspring with, because they’re venereally-diseased sluts, morbidly obese landwhales, and/or borderline-personality-disordered, purple-haired, septum-pierced freaks, that there’s not much left to choose from, for those men who even have the luxury of a choice.

…isn’t what anyone else is seeing. And we’re seeing all kinds, probably because we get out more and use our eyes better than you do.

women age a lot less gracefully than men. That means, even if — by some miracle, given the realities of today’s sexual marketplace — she starts out being your looksmatch, as time goes on, your looks will still be pretty close to what they are now, but hers will go into a much steeper decline.

Dude, with that much projection going on, you should be working in a movie theatre. But I doubt you’d be able to focus adequately.

And in fact, I see most men aging far more poorly than same-age women do. Men are not expected to take care of their looks. They’re not taught to use moisturizer with sunscreen! They’re taught that grey hair and wrinkles and flat butts and chicken legs are all “distinguished”, not “old”. So of course they do nothing about those signs of encroaching age, and they still expect women young enough to be their daughters (or even granddaughters) to find them wildly attractive. And lo and behold…most of us don’t.

I look at guys my own age and a remarkable number of them look too old for me. They are aging faster, and aging worse, and thanks to social conditioning, they’re totally oblivious to everything except their sagging dicks. Which they try to prop up with younger women…and VIAGRA.

Eventually she’ll be an old hag who’s an embarassment to be seen with.

Says the guy who’s an embarrassment even when he’s hiding behind the internets. And he wonders why he’s an incel?

No matter how successful he may become, he’s still lower-status, in a way, than a teenaged Chad who gets to be with a fresh jailbait, because he doesn’t have that same privilege of enjoying that tight, youthful pussy.

Yeah, dude, you’re not creepily obsessed with things you shouldn’t be touching. Not at all!

(Don’t anyone tell him that there are actual teenage girls out there getting plastic surgery on their genitals because, thanks to the unreal world of the same porn this guy whacks off to, they’ve been conned into believing that their perfectly normal genitalia are too big and floppy. He’d probably blow his last gasket.)

Gijoel
Gijoel
2 years ago

Once again we see incels are only interested in sex when its a status symbol. Having sex because it makes a man feel good, much less a woman, doesn’t mean anything to them.

Cat
Cat
2 years ago

i love that i’m oppressing men with my underboob sweat. i feel so powerful.

Podkayne Lives
Podkayne Lives
2 years ago

The fixation is gobsmacking. I mean, I say all the time that society conditions us to prize female youth and beauty above, well, most stuff, but then I see these guys, and realize that most of us are actually pretty well-balanced in comparison.

Don’t get me wrong, having sex with young women is nice. I got to do it a few times myself, back when I was also a young woman, and it’s a very nice experience. But when you realize that you’re dealing with someone who literally thinks that no amount of power, money or (dare I say it) love acquired in the course of a full life can give you a higher status or happiness than a teenage boy who gets to have sex with his teenage girlfriend…dude. Dude.

This. Is. Not. Healthy.

Allandrel
Allandrel
2 years ago

@Bina

Fess up: You’re that creepy 40ish guy at the mall, the one who lurks around the food court glaring over stacked trays at everyone, aren’t you?

::pulls off Leucosticte’s mask::

Jinkies! It was Judge Roy Moore all along!

BlueNinja
BlueNinja
2 years ago

But even then, you STILL can’t get with a prime jailbait because that would be considered gross, disgusting, predatory, etc. even if you haven’t aged too badly and a lot of chicks would actually prefer an older man such as yourself.

No, most teenage girls think you’re old and gross.

Kanna
Kanna
2 years ago

Apart from the fact that our little incel friend is unlikely to have any women of any age, there’s nothing like this lust for youngsters to proclaim “I’m not a good choice for a mate for any woman”. A guy who wants only a firm young body has just announced that he is NOT likely to stick around after she’s had a baby or two, but will be on the search for the next teen. If you are not fit to stick around and be a father to the child, you’re not fit as a mate under any circumstances.

brian
brian
2 years ago

isn’t he an INCEL??? how does he know so much about married life? or is this some unmarried dude who has worked out this whole elaborate miserable fantasy about a life he believes he’ll never even have?

Ariblester
Ariblester
2 years ago

@brian

It’s “cope”, which includes, among other things, the (fantasy) stories incels tell themselves so that they don’t choose the alternative, “rope” (i.e. suicide).

Yeah, incels are kept on this side of alive by hate and spite, mostly.

There is a third alternative, “hope”, but that’s beyond the reach or comprehension of these guys.

Knitting Cat Lady
Knitting Cat Lady
2 years ago

Incels: All real boobs sag. Only A cups or smaller don’t sag. The bigger the boobs, the more they sag.

I have H cups. I can bury my face in my own cleavage if I so desire.

If you see huge tits that don’t sag? Those are silicone.

Catalpa
Catalpa
2 years ago

If these dudes are so fucking worried about old, mummified vaginas, I have a solution to all of their problems, one that won’t get them put on a sex offenders list. Fleshlights, or Tenga Eggs, or any other of the numerous, numerous sex toys that emulate vaginas. You can buy one hot off the presses, less than 1 year old (over 15 times younger than those dried up old 15 year olds!), and you can be assured that it will never be involved with anyone but yourself. And replacing it after it gets old and saggy is as easy as chucking the old one and ordering a new one! It’s perfect!

Okay, so you won’t be able to take your brand new sex toy out to show off to people, but why would you want to? Going outside just means being exposed to monsters from the black lagoon with piercings and dyed hair! You don’t want to subject yourself to that. Stay inside, far, far away from any other human being. It’s the only way to be completely safe from the foids.

Now if you’ll excuse me, I need to pick up some magnetic earrings, press-on tattoos, and a rainbow wig so that I have incel repellent. (Unfortunately I am way too much of a wimp to get real tattoos/piercings, and too impatient to dye my hair. Fortunately, I am a devious, deceitful woman and I know how to improvise.)

Jane Done
Jane Done
2 years ago

But not so fact!

Can I just say, this is the most depressingly accurate typo of 2018.

Spaniard in the Works
Spaniard in the Works
2 years ago

@Knitting Cat Lady:

If you see huge tits that don’t sag? Those are silicone.

Or if they’re not huge, but unusually big for her body, padded bras. As I once said to some guy who was lamenting that in his youth there were not girls like today’s… “have you ever noticed how the street is filled with thin women with big round perky tits and yet there are none of those at the beach?”

@Bina: you said what I was going to say about men and women ageing but much more eloquently.

As you become middle-aged, if you’ve stayed in good health, your dick will continue to be capable of getting just as hard as it does now (when you’re given the proper stimuli); but your wife’s pussy will loosen significantly over time, so it’s not just her form but also her function that will decline.

I must be imagining all those Viagra and Cialis ads, then. Or is this fine gentleman implying that the only reason males sexual power decines is the lack of young pussy?
Also, someone needs to work on that fixation with pussy tightness. It’s obvious this guy has never had sex, or if he had it it was not remotely consentual. Pro tip: if you feel anything close to tightness, you’re probably causing her pain.

Kevin
Kevin
2 years ago

If he acts on his Humbertish obsession (I think I need a brain bleach) the only person he’s likely to ‘be with’ for any length of time is a tough cell mate. If he doesn’t get murdered by another prisoner.

TrixiePixie
TrixiePixie
2 years ago

I’ve been lurking on this blog for a very long time and the thing that I find interesting here is how the idea of low status/beta/cuck male has developed from a man slavishly devoted to his cheating partner who only uses him for money, or a man who dates single mums (the first of which isn’t something that happens at all often and the second most people don’t see as a humiliation – but are still nonetheless observable things that can happen in the real world) to “any man who doesn’t get to have sex which teenagers”. The fantasy land of handsome James-Bond-like-men older men, their crone wives, teenage giga-chads with their amazing sex lives with their underage girlfriends who are frustrated in their efforts to partner-up with men in their 40s… It’s just all so absurd, and shows how far the ideology has retreated into an alternate reality.

Alexisagirlsname
Alexisagirlsname
2 years ago

You see this all the time — a good-looking guy in, say, his 40s or 50s, is with his agematched wife, who’s now so wrinkly that she looks the creature from the black lagoon, only uglier.

Dude, Shape of Water just won the Oscar. The creature from the black lagoon is a 2018 sex symbol.

This guy wishes he could ever have a woman look at him like this.
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Lex
Lex
2 years ago

The creeper talks about Bouncing boobs yeah his knowladge of female anatomy clearly is soly based on anime and hentai

Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
2 years ago

Kevin, please don’t insinuate that prison rape or other prison violence is predictable, inevitable or deserved.

Alexisagirlsname
Alexisagirlsname
2 years ago

No matter how successful he may become, he’s still lower-status, in a way, than a teenaged Chad who gets to be with a fresh jailbait, because he doesn’t have that same privilege of enjoying that tight, youthful pussy.

Imagine the frightful dystopia that we live in where the person most likely to have sex with a teenage girl is a teenage boy and such girls don’t consider letting an older creep get with her just because he’s got money. The horror!

msexceptiontotherule
msexceptiontotherule
2 years ago

…This guy is really and creepily keen on 15 year old girls. Maybe someone needs to put him on a watch list.

Why do some men seem to believe that they do not indeed have their own variety of a pair of ‘low hangers’ as they hit a certain age range, and don’t even get the help of a lifting undergarment…It’s not size that causes such drooping in men, just how the male body is designed. Yet, young women are supposedly desperate for the chance to be with a paunchy, saggy, bitter and critical middle aged man – presumably the ones creepily glaring at them in clubs and bars who complains on the interwebs about women ‘past their prime age’ of what…15? GROSS, incel-dude. Quit trolling the high school parking lots looking for a teenage girl who strays too far from the safety of her friends group.

Alexisagirlsname
Alexisagirlsname
2 years ago

So many girls these days are mentally and physically unsuitable for producing offspring with

I know it’s often observed that these manosphere dudes are weirdly obsessed with women’s fertility and procreation given they are clearly uninterested in and incapable of raising a child. In this instance, though, a further caveat needs to be added that 15 is NOT an age were a woman is most “suitable” for giving birth. Even if she’s menstruating, her body and her hips in particular are unlikely to be as developed as they later become.

Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
2 years ago

Teenage incels are like, “Everybody should marry young because women’s fertility is too precious to waste, and sexual deprivation of young men like me is the worst oppression. Also if you don’t get laid by 22 your opportunity is lost forever and people over 30 probably don’t have sex anyway. That is, unless they’re some super Chad who fucks my classmates when they aren’t being fucked by some younger Chad.”

Meanwhile, incels approaching middle age are like, “Women should marry young because their fertility is too precious to waste, while men mature more slowly and it’s perfectly natural and achievable for mature men like me to marry much younger women. If you can’t have someone under 22, you have failed true sexual achievement, and ending up supporting a wife only when she’s past 30 is the worst oppression.”

Kevin
Kevin
2 years ago

Lumipuna, nobody deserves that kind of treatment in prison, no matter how heinous their crimes, but if the guy is American, given what we know of the environment in their penitentiaries, I’ll not back away from ‘predictable.’

Wetherby
Wetherby
2 years ago

I like the assertion that “35 is check-out time”, because the fact is that I haven’t had sex with anyone under 35 in nearly thirty years, and very much through choice – I’d favour someone who thoroughly knows her own body over an inexperienced teenager any day of the week. And that includes women who’ve had kids (and not via Caesarean).

Which makes me far better qualified to judge just how gibberingly wrongheaded these goons are when they pontificate about how female anatomy allegedly changes over time. How on earth would they know?

Also, I’ve never really fathomed why an overly tight vagina is a particularly desirable thing – much like having to accommodate an excessively large penis (something that no woman of my acquaintance has ever reminisced about especially fondly, despite incels being convinced otherwise), if it’s noticeably tight it’s as likely to be uncomfortable as anything else.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
2 years ago

the half-mummified living carcass that is her body

Marriage is between one man and one Raiders of the Lost Ark ending.

But even then, you STILL can’t get with a prime jailbait because that would be considered gross, disgusting, predatory, etc. even if you haven’t aged too badly and a lot of chicks would actually prefer an older man such as yourself.

I love how it’s society, not the chicks themselves, that considers middle aged men hitting on teenagers gross and predatory.

If high school sophomores really are turned on by wealth and power, wouldn’t there be a lot more posters of Mitch McConnell and the Koch brothers inside girls’ lockers?

Marshmallow Stacey Maximal (formerly bluecat)
Marshmallow Stacey Maximal (formerly bluecat)
2 years ago

your only reward is money and power that can’t be converted into the only currency that matters, i.e., sexual access to fertile teenage girls.

The philosophy of Daesh in a few words – except it was guns and trucks and a willingness to indulge in the theatrics of extreme violence that gave them sexual access to enslaved teenage girls in the territories they conquered.

And I doubt that men in other countries with enough money and power and let’s say a total lack of empathy, morality or respect for human beings, do not have access to similarly enslaved prostituted teenagers should they want it.

Of course, if you do have children in your teens, and especially if you cannot control how many you have and keep having them, one consequence is quite likely to be faster aging. Making baby bones before your own are fully formed is a good way to ensure tooth loss in early middle age, not to mention arthritis and fragile bones later on.

Personally, as a 58 year old (involuntarily) childless woman, my breasts are only about half an inch less high as they were when I was 25 – the age when I first started to have visible breasts at all. Or at least the right one is: the cancer operation on the left has made that one higher still. Hey ho. My husband still fancies me, and I still fancy him.

Skiriki
Skiriki
2 years ago

BRB, dyeing my hair purple again.

Telling younger girls to pick warning colors as well, if that’s what it takes to keep assholios off them.

Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
2 years ago

Just wondering this part, about ordinary married middle-aged men:

No matter how successful he may become, he’s still lower-status, in a way, than a teenaged Chad who gets to be with a fresh jailbait, because he doesn’t have that same privilege of enjoying that tight, youthful pussy.

How do you know he wasn’t a teen “Chad” once? I understand most boys/men get to have sex with a girl/woman under 20 at some point, usually when they’re fairly young themselves. Some even do it with their future life partner.

Oh, but he doesn’t have that privilege *now* when he’s about 40, like our incel social analyst here. This guy Leucosticte would really like to have his cake, so to say, and not only because he didn’t get to eat it 20 years ago. He talks how, if he were stuck with an aging wife, he’d appreciate a beautiful memory of their shared youth – but in reality he’d be only bitter and jealous over a new generation of teen girls, and the “Chads” who get to date them.

JenniferAndLightning
JenniferAndLightning
2 years ago

My daughter is 16 which means I know several teenaged girls fairly well and the idea that an adult man would be attracted to any of them actively twists my stomach in knots. Certainly these girls do get cat-called and hollered at by older men, and that is beyond unacceptable but also seems to be about intimidation more than attraction.

Not to malign the lovely young women who I adore, but they still look and act very much like children with just hints of adult development. There are a few reasons that most tv shows and movies cast young adults to play teenagers. Teenagers, in addition to having strivter labor laws, often look a little awkward. They deserve the chance to grow into themselves without being creeped on or objectified or sexualized before they are ready.

Of course, tv shows and movies, having cast adults to play teenagers then often have those ‘teenagers’ act like adults despite the fact that teens (at least in the US) are having much less sex than we did at their age.

Citizen Justin
2 years ago

You can find the worst of Nathan Larson AKA Leucostice on FSTDT, when it’s up, and if you don’t want to go any of his own postings and thus raise his page-views. Wikipedia also has an article.

He has a daughter, whom he is not allowed access to. You can thank whatever god you believe in for that. He’s since married again. I suspect that he has aligned himself with the ‘incel’ movement because of a common world-view. He is also a ‘perennial candidate’ in elections, for which he gets very few votes on account of his advocacy of paedophilia (in his own words), and has also done 14 months for threatening the President (both W. Bush and Obama).

Moon_custafer
Moon_custafer
2 years ago

@ Buttercup Q. Skullpants:

Marriage is between one man and one Raiders of the Lost Ark ending.

It’s just past 10 am here, but I think I’ve already seen the best internet comment of the day. We can all go home now.

Katamount
Katamount
2 years ago

So yesterday on Wonkette, in light of the Kavanaugh confirmation, I made a macabre joke that the GOP is basically on the verge of electing serial killers to high office. (Incidentally, I’d be remiss in not offering a content warning.) I mean, given their attitude towards women, I think a Gary Ridgway/Dennis Rader ticket is just around the corner. They’re both old, they’re both white, they both like to hurt women. Rader has the disadvantage of being a home invader in the heartland, so that’s why he’s not at the top of the ticket, but Ridgway preyed on the kind of women that Republicans consider disposable so he’s perfect!

The reason I made the joke was that during my recent cold, I watched a lot of true crime docs on YouTube, and as I was watching them, there were a couple of through-lines that popped out at me:

1. Alcohol. Somebody’s drinking. Dahmer drank. Gacy’s father drank. Gilbert Paul Jordan, BC’s notorious “Boozing Barber”, intentionally got women pass-out drunk and ended up killing 9 of them. If alcohol isn’t fuelling some kind of family strife that sets these soon-to-be killers on a course of alienation, the killers themselves are relying on alcohol to relieve them of their consciences.

This was certainly far from a given, but it was striking to me how often it was cited in these profiles.

2. Contempt for women. The worst serial killers could only operate if they were preying on vulnerable populations that society cared less about. Sex workers, particularly those of colour, made prime targets. There’s a reason it took 30 years and 50 deaths apiece to finally get Gary Ridgway and Willy Pickton.

And what a lot of people forget is that these sadistic maniacs escalated, often slowly, testing what it was they could get away with. What started with violating boundaries became assault, then sexual assault, culminating in murder. If the internet was around in the 70s and 80s, I can easily imagine a Ridgway or a Bundy posting hideous things just like this en route to becoming the monsters they were. And the list of these monsters seemed endless. Chikatilo. Bernardo. Pickton. Rader. Ramirez. Any of the media-styled “Stranglers”, from Hillside to Boston. Heck, one of the podcasts I listened to actually pointed out that Chikatilo’s life story made it sound like he was the original incel. Given the gruesomeness of his crimes, that’s not exactly a badge of honour.

Or is it? If these “incels” were confronted with the fact that their attitudes towards women matched some of people held in the highest contempt on earth… would they be ashamed?

Probably not. God, that’s sad.

…incidentally, any Canadian Mammotheers have some recommendations on where I can find some local true crime content? I’m too cheap to subscribe to CBC to watch The Detectives so I found a pretty good podcast called Dark Poutine, which profiled some cases I was unfamiliar with, particularly from British Columbia, but I’m always interested in the darker side of this stereotypically polite country.

Alexisagirlsname
Alexisagirlsname
2 years ago

@Citizen Justin

You can find the worst of Nathan Larson AKA Leucostice on FSTDT, when it’s up, and if you don’t want to go any of his own postings and thus raise his page-views. Wikipedia also has an article.

Wow, now knowing who this guy is, he’s actually a more disgustingly horrific individual than the story above implies. And that’s saying a lot!

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/nathan-larson-congressional-candidate-pedophile_us_5b10916de4b0d5e89e1e4824

This might be one of the worst people I’ve ever heard of. He bragged about raping his wife and justified it by saying “some women have rape fantasies”. She later committed suicide. He advocated getting “a pedo-wife and then either impregnate her with some fucktoys or adopt some fucktoys.” He shouldn’t just be denied custody of his daughter and have a restraining order preventing him from seeing her. He should be kept away from all women and children.

Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
2 years ago

Apparently, Bing is the search engine of choice for the alt-reich:

(CW: racism and worse)

https://www.howtogeek.com/367878/bing-is-suggesting-the-worst-things-you-can-imagine/

(Note: like so many sites these days, their web designer apparently doesn’t know how to use the img tag properly, and as a result of whatever they used instead, none of the images are visible without whitelisting howtogeek.com scripts. But see the content warning above — you might not want the images to be visible…)

Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
2 years ago

Katamount:

IIRC, some incels have fantasized about terrorizing the world by becoming “serial rapists”. I suppose they meant the kind of serial rapist-torturer-murderer who have “taunted the cops” in the past.

I’d suspect this feat was very difficult to achieve back then, and even more so with modern surveillance/forensics methods. If you attack someone society cares about, you get caught before you get famous. If you attack the outcasts, the white middle class Staceys likely won’t even hear about it. Same if they actually meant the stereotypical alley rapist.

Now, being a serial date rapist is very common and doable, but again that’s only because society cares even less about date rape. It also requires some skill in pickup artistry, which incels ostensibly lack.

Then again, I don’t doubt that there’s some serial killer/rapist material in incel community.

Tabby Lavalamp
Tabby Lavalamp
2 years ago

Do they get paid by the word when they pad out these insults?

FelineFineThePunLioness
FelineFineThePunLioness
2 years ago

@Wetherby
Thank you for this as yes it does suck to have a wrong sized one.
I don’t get the enamoratiom with unreasonably tight when in all honesty its not that great and makes sex kinda painful.

Jenora Feuer
Jenora Feuer
2 years ago

@Knitting Cat Lady:
I knew a woman who could do the ‘pencil test’ with a pool cue.

She also, unfortunately, demonstrated that ‘woman with an exhibitionist streak’ and ‘man with a jealous streak’ make for a really bad combination. There’s a reason she called her first husband ‘the Ogre’.

Fortunately, her second husband is a much nicer person. (Even if she did have to go yell at the dress shop while getting ready for her second wedding because some tailor had looked at the measurements and said ‘nobody could actually be built like that’ and so pulled in the bustline to the point where she couldn’t wear it.)

She probably would still be considered horrible-looking by some of the incel types who are far too fixated on the (photoshopped) Hollywood model. But she’s a wonderfully cheerful and artistic person.

SpukiKitty
SpukiKitty
2 years ago

@Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation

Yeesh! Now these idiots are trying to “claim” the search engine I primarily use (mainly cuz I heard too much of Google-shadiness and Bing has a much better image search that isn’t designed by prudes)!

I still have a gmail account, though, even if I primarily use outlook for my emails. I still need some Google stuff to use stuff like YouTube.

That said; I tend to get grim news about Progressivism and good news for Right-Wingers no matter what search thingy I use. It’s like the search-results are pre-disposed to discouraging me….or I’m using terrible choices in keywords.

Alexisagirlsname
October 10, 2018 at 10:24 am

@Citizen Justin

You can find the worst of Nathan Larson AKA Leucostice on FSTDT, when it’s up, and if you don’t want to go any of his own postings and thus raise his page-views. Wikipedia also has an article.

Wow, now knowing who this guy is, he’s actually a more disgustingly horrific individual than the story above implies. And that’s saying a lot!

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/nathan-larson-congressional-candidate-pedophile_us_5b10916de4b0d5e89e1e4824

This might be one of the worst people I’ve ever heard of. He bragged about raping his wife and justified it by saying “some women have rape fantasies”. She later committed suicide. He advocated getting “a pedo-wife and then either impregnate her with some fucktoys or adopt some fucktoys.” He shouldn’t just be denied custody of his daughter and have a restraining order preventing him from seeing her. He should be kept away from all women and children.

OMG! That bit about the suicide and the “fucktoys”. About the latter, I was like “How do you impregnate a person with a sex toy…..OH MY GAWD!”

This guy should be in prison!

Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
2 years ago

Do they get paid by the word when they pad out these insults?

Judging by the couple recent columns by Andrew Anglin, as David has covered them, he gets paid by the number of hate speech cliches, turning every column into a massive, mostly boilerplate screeds that are only tenuously relevant to some current event.

Now, if this Leucosticte guy is really a biological father, he’s not fully foreign to “female sexual function”. I guess he speaks in incel cliches because those figures of speech express certain misogynist ideas and emotions, and incel audience laps them up.

SpukiKitty
SpukiKitty
2 years ago

I read that article just now and my ANGER ISSUES ARE FLARING UP!….Excuse my fire, my friends….

What gets me is that this Lawson guy MARRIED AGAIN!

WHY WOULD ANY WOMAN MARRY A KNOWN SICKO!

Hopefully; Some women will go “Gulabi Gang” on his weak hinder.

He needs to learn that women are stronger than him! We are not objects….WE ARE HIS MASTERS AND WE WILL MASTERFUL PUT HIM IN HIS PROPER PLACE….ON HIS KNEES, SLAVING FOR WOMEN AND REAL MEN!

The fact that this guy is MARRIED AGAIN, that he’s SO OPEN ABOUT BEING A RAPIST OF WOMEN AND CHILDREN, that HIS EX WAS SO MESSED UP INSIDE THAT SHE KILLED HERSELF, AND THAT HE’S FREE AND NOT GETTING COMEUPPANCE YET!

My only solace is that he’s a perennial loser and is hated by everyone and his daughter is being raised by others.

SpukiKitty
SpukiKitty
2 years ago

I almost have an urge to write a cathartic fic about a righteously angry but horribly messed-up woman who kidnaps that weakling, Nathan Larson. She goes to a party where he is and she roofies his drink.

He wakes up, tied to some weird device in a basement festooned with pics of Durga, Kali, Rey, Imperator Furiosa, Xena, Lorena Bobbitt, etc.

….Feminist anthems drown out his helpless male screams….

….After his funeral, his present wife, her friends and a couple of real men dance on his grave.

Yeah; It’s sicko as hell and NO ONE should stoop to that level.

….But someone needs to put this boy in his place! Had he been in a Blue State, he probably would have.

Misogynist males are LUCKY that we women never-to-very-rarely pull the same crap on them. A woman could just as easily catcall, grope or roofie-rape as anything….but we don’t because were better than that.

That said; Even his own home state thinks he’s too much even for them.

SpukiKitty
SpukiKitty
2 years ago

Guys; I take back the invective. No one deserves to be rape/torture-murdered….even if they are disgusting.

That said; This guy should still be taken down a peg, divorced by his wife and tossed in the slammer.

Reading his quotes and how unrepentant and open about everything he is….how he literally sees his equals and fellow humans who happen to be female as mindless objects and property to be used and abused as seen fit….How he sees Father/Daughter incest as fab and talks like a horror movie/comic book villain….The fact that his first wife couldn’t escape him even after escaping him (and killed herself)….and is STILL ON THE STREETS!

Time to send a P.I. and find a way and reason to imprison this guy. This isn’t a human being, this is a devil-monster in a human-suit.

I can’t even laugh at him for being a pathetic “perennial candidate” with no chance for election….because the reasons why and his actions are so evil!

I have to wonder about his parents….or would love to see a brain-scan of this guy….How can someone be so nasty? To save such utter dehumanizing hatred of women and girls and such unabashed pride in proclaiming that he does stuff that should get him in prison.

SpukiKitty
SpukiKitty
2 years ago

Sorry for another consecutive post but….THESE DARN TIMED EDITS!

I looked at the Wikipedia article about him and he not only is evil, he’s pathetic.

He’s “thankfully” never elected and still lives with his parents. While living with one’s parents shouldn’t be a reason to shame someone (I live with mine), it’s still hilarious coming from a self-proclaimed “Ubermensch” who’s constantly running for Congress.

He’s remarried but I hope his parents aren’t evil like him and I hope they make an effort to put the cabosh on his worst behavior (especially with Spouse No. 2).

His first spouse bore him a daughter but is transgender. Thus; I’ve been unknowinging misgendering the young man who was Rapey McDouchiepant’s first “wife”.

Hopefully the guy who was Larson’s first spouse is at peace, in Paradise and having the last laugh (I believe in an afterlife and I don’t see suicide as a sin).

Lukas Xavier
Lukas Xavier
2 years ago

when you’re given the proper stimuli

Does anybody else get a weird “if I can’t get hard, it’s your fault” vibe from this?

And this:

No matter how successful he may become, he’s still lower-status, in a way, than a teenaged Chad who gets to be with a fresh jailbait

Notice how his concern is not “Oh, I won’t have as much fun” or “Oh, I won’t get with the girl I like.” Instead it’s “Oh, I won’t be as high status”.

Status? Is that why you’re trying to get laid? For status? Dude, you’ve missed the point entirely.

Alexisagirlsname
Alexisagirlsname
2 years ago

It’s pretty horrific that in a country in which so many people convicted for felonies (often minorities with drug convictions) don’t even have the right to vote, this rich white guy can get convicted for threatening the President’s life, admit to rape and paedophilia, and still not only vote but stand as a candidate. I know only a few hundred people voted for him, but what the hell were they thinking, too?