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Intolerable Cruelty: The #BeersForBrett hashtag is the ultimate symbol of Trump’s kingdom of spite

The Daily Caller’s Benny Johnson celebrates Kavanaugh’s confirmation (click to see original tweet)

By David Futrelle

Perhaps the most heartbreaking and enraging moment of Christine Blasey Ford’s testimony before the Senate came after Senator Patrick Leahy asked her to recall her most indelible memory of the night she said that now-Supreme-Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh had sexually assaulted her. Ford replied without hesitation: It was, she said, “the uproarious laughter” of Kavanaugh and his friend Mark Judge, two aggressive adolescent boys ““having fun at my expense.”

So it is perhaps not surprising that Kavanaugh’s supporters have responded to the accused would-be-rapist’s confirmation to the highest court in the land with their own cruel laughter — and a Twitter hashtag designed to memorialize the fun they are now having at Ford’s expense.

Let’s take a quick tour #BeersForBrett hashtag, celebrating the Supreme Court confirmation of a man facing credible accusations of alcohol-fueled sexual assaults that the GOP was happy to ignore and that the White House blocked from being properly investigated. The hashtag began before the final vote on Kavanaugh, but has picked up steam since his confirmation,

In it, Kavanaugh’s fans are happily gloating over their victory, mocking their opponents, often to their faces.

Revenge 4 Kavanaugh ‏ @MAGAManCraig1 Follow Follow @MAGAManCraig1 More Owning the libs! Cheers! #BeersForBrett

Davy2424 ‏ @Davy2424 Follow Follow @Davy2424 More #BeersForBrett I don’t always drink beer but when I do it’s while laughing my ass off at loser libs having their public meltdowns

piderMandela ‏ @Spider_Mandela Follow Follow @Spider_Mandela More Replying to @ERTBen WOMP WOMP #BeersForBrett

Dawn Marie Pepe ‏ @dawn_pepe Follow Follow @dawn_pepe More Replying to @japastu Keep crying snowflakes #BeersforBrett

 

Davy2424 ‏ @Davy2424 Follow Follow @Davy2424 More #BeersForBrett. Hey libs try pouring a beer in your little puckered ass right now. Might loosen you up a bit

While many using the hashtag are simply posting pictures of their own alcoholic celebrations (with predictably gloating captions), others are coming with the memes:

 

paulthepatriot 🇺🇸 ‏ @MAGAmindset_ Follow Follow @MAGAmindset_ More Picture from last night's #KavanaughConfirmed celebration ⬇️ #BeersForBrett #MAGA #KegsForKavanaugh

paulthepatriot 🇺🇸 ‏ @MAGAmindset_ Follow Follow @MAGAmindset_ More Replying to @KyleKashuv He's putting some ice in the cooler as we speak. #KegsForKavanaugh #BeersForBrett

 

William Bobalink ‏ @WBobalink Follow Follow @WBobalink More Replying to @MAGAShocka @2APrincess #BeersForBrett tonight everyone!!!Costanza ‏ @CostanzaTweeter Follow Follow @CostanzaTweeter More Let’s get this hashtag going fellas #BeersForBrett

 

There’s much gleeful talk about “triggering” liberals and women.

@policecode18_3 ‏ @Policecode183 Follow Follow @Policecode183 More #BeersForBrett seems to be triggering. Turn it up.

María Cardenas ‏ @mariaCardenas80 Follow Follow @mariaCardenas80 More Replying to @LawDog_Emeritus @ScorchedEarthhh I love how triggered liberals get over beers for Bret, I’m gonna go take a picture of a beer brb #BeersForBrett

Spicer Facts ‏ @Putin_TrumpUSA Follow Follow @Putin_TrumpUSA More Replying to @tk_thecyborg victims are triggered by laughter @Alyssa_Milano doesn't like to say white males laughing or being happy or being confirmed so.... #BeersForBrett won't trigger her but laughter after you drink beers might.

There are the inevitable jokes about “liberal tears.”

ℂ𝔼𝕃𝔼𝔹ℝ𝔸𝕋𝕀𝕆ℕ 𝕄𝔼𝕄𝔼 𝕋ℍℝ𝔼𝔸𝔻 🍻 𝐂𝐨𝐧𝐠𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐮𝐥𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐬 𝐁𝐫𝐞𝐭𝐭 𝐊𝐚𝐯𝐚𝐧𝐚𝐮𝐠𝐡! 🍻 Please post memes celebrating Brett's confirmation, as well as memes mocking democrats for their nasty behavior. They deserve it!!

Cis White Male 🎃 ‏ @CisWhiteMale11 Follow Follow @CisWhiteMale11 More I haven't drank this many Liberal tears in a very long time. I'm getting kind of full, I need some beer to wash them down!

Houston Illuminati ❌ ‏ @Houston_Vicious Follow Follow @Houston_Vicious More new meme to add to the arsenal, drink liberal tears with your beer #SCOTUS #JusticeKavanaugh #BeersForBrett #BrettKavanaugh #QAnon #QArmy #RedOctober

 

XIII-13 ♔ 🇳🇱 ‏ @XIII000013 Follow Follow @XIII000013 More #BeersForBrett <-- is a special kind of beer. It's made of liberal tears. It's the best kind of beer on the planet.

George Costanza ‏ @ttysl13 Follow Follow @ttysl13 More Replying to @Slate hahahhahha. awwwww. the lib tears sure are flowing this morning. 😭😭 #BeersForBrett

Many of those on the hashtag have revealed themselves to be as vindictive, as eager for retribution, as Kavanaugh himself seems to be.

Botty McBotBitch 🤖 🇺🇸 ‏ @67_4_17 Follow Follow @67_4_17 More #BeersForBrett Suck it libs! Let's see how impartial Supreme Court Justice Kavanaugh is after all he & his family have been through! HA! CUT YOUR NOSE OFF TO SPITE YOUR FACE! hahaha! Good job libs! Hahahahaha!

Yankee Oswald. #NoWar ‏ @Nationalist1776 Follow Follow @Nationalist1776 More Yankee Oswald. #NoWar Retweeted Reuters Top News Womp womp, cat ladies! I’ll drink a beer 🍻 for you today Justice Kavanaugh! May your tenure in the court be a long one and a specially grueling one for our liberal friends and their “Holy cows” #JusticeBrettKavanaugh #BeersForBrett

wotie Von Beauty ‏ @TwotieVonBeauty Follow Follow @TwotieVonBeauty More Replying to @WinstonMcGill5 @USATODAY Yeah guess who's laughing today? And tomorrow and the next day and for 30 years b!tches! #BeersForBrett #MAGA

 

 

Some are directing their cruelty at Christine Blasey Ford herself:

Christopher Wayne Story ‏ @VampyreCowboy Follow Follow @VampyreCowboy More #BeersForBrett Because you can't drink her tearsom Manners ‏ @TomManners5 Follow Follow @TomManners5 More #BeersForBrett and #rapekits for Ford! LOLI Throw Ice At People ‏ @Spicoli1981 Follow Follow @Spicoli1981 More FOR SALE USED FORD HIGH MILES - CONTACT @SenFeinstein #KavanaughConfirmed #Kavanaugh #BeersForBrett #ChristineBlaseyFord

KAM ‏ @KAM21781 Follow Follow @KAM21781 More Ford is a lying skank! #ConfirmKavanaughNow #BeersForBrett

As the tweets directed at Ford suggest, the whole hashtag stinks of misogyny, with many tweeters taking special pleasure in the suffering of women.

Rad123 ‏ @Tombx7M Follow Follow @Tombx7M More The protests were embarrassing #BeersForBrett #FoxAndFriends #tcot #ccot #KAG #cnnsotu #mediabuzz #thisweek #QAnon #trump #SundayMorning #MAGA

Dr. Manhattan, M.D. ‏ @DrManhattanMD Follow Follow @DrManhattanMD More *record scratch Whoa, whoa, WAIT!!! I was promised when #Kavanaugh got confirmed “MILLIONS OF WOMEN” were going to die. Where all the dead bitches at?!? #ILikeBeer #KegsForKavanaugh #BeersForBrett #SuckItFeminists

Vincent James ‏ @RealVinceJames Follow Follow @RealVinceJames More I can’t wait to sit with my grandkids while we read obituaries of barren cat ladies. #BeersForBrett

 

die BOOtler 💀 👻 🎃 ‏ @dibutler Follow Follow @dibutler More Newest protest chant? "Who's court? Our court!" Never let it be said that these bussed in protesters aren't creative. Bonus-chants of "shame! shame! shame!" From the neo-Puritan Tinder sluts.

For even more blatant displays of misogyny, see this horrifying thread.

Still, not all of those posting in the hashtag are overgrown frat boys; there are numerous women as well, reminding us that the overwhelming majority of Republican women supported Kavanaugh.  (White supremacy is a hell of a drug, I guess.)

Angela Box ‏ @TheBoxThatRoxx Follow Follow @TheBoxThatRoxx More I wonder how many women have died already this morning because of #JusticeKavanaugh? 😂😂😂😂 #winning #BrettKavanaugh #SCOTUS #BeersForBrett #BelieveSurvivors #midterms

RawHoney ‏ @RawHoney6 Follow Follow @RawHoney6 More RawHoney Retweeted Elizabeth Warren Wonder if she was crying into a tub of Ben & Jerry’s while surrounded by empty red wine bottles when she tweeted this. #Hysteria #BeersForBrett

Misogyny isn’t the only form of bigotry on display. (I censored the first image somewhat.)

Sasquatch Lives Matter ‏ @MoistNigga69 Follow Follow @MoistNigga69 More Replying to @SarahEastcoast All the people getting triggered over #BeersForBrett look like this. Generalizations are awesome and totally accurate.

 

Rusty Shackelman ‏ @OhSoBigandVeiny Follow Follow @OhSoBigandVeiny More Replying to @catzz222 @UncrcU and 12 others Roasties get btfo, weaponizing #metoo didnt work, all your (((Soros))) money couldn't help you and I guarantee you that all this crying wont help you, but hey you give a good laugh to a large p as r of the country so keep the salt coming #Beers4Brett

But the people supporting this hashtag aren’t just internet trolls and alt-right Nazis. Far from it.  Not only are a wide spectrum of Trump supporters posting in the hashtag; prominent conservative publications — and politicians — are getting into the action as well, with the Daily Caller going so far as to troll anti-Kavanaugh protesters by trying to give them beer.

TheBlaze ‏ Verified account @theblaze Following Following @theblaze More Who else had #BeersForBrett

Senator John Cornyn ‏ Verified account @JohnCornyn Follow Follow @JohnCornyn More Not quite #Beers4Brett but #Bubbly4Brett instead

The Daily Caller ‏ Verified account @DailyCaller Following Following @DailyCaller More Official statement from The Daily Caller: Of course we were handing out beer. We like beer. Everyone likes beer. Somebody has to bring this country back together. What better way than with a cold beer? #bringingpeopletogether

Ironically, despite the sneering disingenuousness of the Daily Caller’s tweet, it did manage to get one thing right. All these beers for Brett are intended to bring people together. Just not all people.

In a powerful essay in The Atlantic several days before the Kavanaugh vote, journalist Adam Serwer compared the Trump fans who laughed at the President’s mocking of Ford at a rally in Mississippi last week to the “respectable” white citizens caught on camera in 90-year-old photographs of public lynchings, standing only feet from the bodies of murdered black men, with huge grins on their faces.

“Their names have mostly been lost to time,” Serwer writes,

But these grinning men were someone’s brother, son, husband, father. They were human beings, people who took immense pleasure in the utter cruelty of torturing others to death—and were so proud of doing so that they posed for photographs with their handiwork, jostling to ensure they caught the eye of the lens, so that the world would know they’d been there. Their cruelty made them feel good, it made them feel proud, it made them feel happy. And it made them feel closer to one another.

Trump and his supporters are in many ways the contemporary equivalents of these men. While “[t]he Trump era is such a whirlwind of cruelty that it can be hard to keep track,” Serwer notes, Trump’s cruelty towards Ford, and the mocking laughter of his supporters, is going to remain indelible in the collective hippocampus of rape survivors for a very long time, to paraphrase Dr. Ford.

As the laughter at the rally made clear — and the collective gloating that is the #BeersForBrett hashtag has further underlined — for Trump and his fans, cruelty towards others is bonding experience, just as lynchings were for so many racist white men and women in the early 20th century.

As Server argues,

The cruelty of the Trump administration’s policies, and the ritual rhetorical flaying of his targets before his supporters, are intimately connected. As Lili Loofbourow wrote of the Kavanaugh incident in Slate, adolescent male cruelty toward women is a bonding mechanism, a vehicle for intimacy through contempt. …

We can hear the spectacle of cruel laughter throughout the Trump era. There were the border-patrol agents cracking up at the crying immigrant children separated from their families, and the Trump adviser who delighted white supremacists when he mocked a child with Down syndrome who was separated from her mother. There were the police who laughed uproariously when the president encouraged them to abuse suspects, and the Fox News hosts mocking a survivor of the Pulse Nightclub massacre (and in the process inundating him with threats), the survivors of sexual assault protesting to Senator Jeff Flake, the women who said the president had sexually assaulted them, and the teen survivors of the Parkland school shooting. There was the president mocking Puerto Rican accents shortly after thousands were killed and tens of thousands displaced by Hurricane Maria, the black athletes protesting unjustified killings by the police, the women of the #MeToo movement who have come forward with stories of sexual abuse, and the disabled reporter whose crime was reporting on Trump truthfully. It is not just that the perpetrators of this cruelty enjoy it; it is that they enjoy it with one another. Their shared laughter at the suffering of others is an adhesive that binds them to one another, and to Trump.

As the headline of Serwer’s piece puts it: “They cruelty is the point.” Indeed, reading through the #BeersForBrett hashtag, it is hard not to conclude that for many of Trump’s most fervent fans, the cruelty — and the privilege it is designed to celebrate and protect — is practically the only point.

Trump’s fans don’t care if his reputation as a self-made business genius is utter bullshit, built on tax fraud and money from daddy (and possibly decades worth of money laundering). They don’t care if he gushes over Kim Jong Un, the brutal boy dictator he once threatened to nuke off the face of the earth. They may not even care if he never builds his infamous wall. They just like to watch him go off on “uppity” women, on people of color, on anyone outside the magic circle of white male supremacy. As long as Trump is “triggering the libs,” many of his fans don’t even care if his policies are screwing them over.

But by making this collective cruelty such a central — and such a public — part of their exercise of power, Trump and the GOP have ignited a righteous fury in the hearts of all of us who oppose him. The cruelty and gloating that accompanied Kavanaugh’s ascension to the Supreme Court is bringing this fury to a head.

We were angry before; for many of us the 625 days since Trump’s inauguration have been a rollercoaster of rage and despair. But I’ve never seen  so many people so angry before. The midterms are a month away. We need to win them, to push back against every obstacle that Trump and the GOP put in our way, to take back every seat we can and then some, so we can begin the process of tearing down Trump’s empire of cruelty.

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Hippodameia
Hippodameia
2 years ago

I ordered a bunch of “REPUBLICANS LOVE RAPE” bumper stickers today. Some of my family members think I’m going to get myself killed, but I’ve already had people try to run me off the road for my “Black Lives Matter” bumper sticker and I’m not going down without a fight.

Trump is scum. His supporters are scum. His followers are scum.

Ooglyboggles
Ooglyboggles
2 years ago

They’re really living up to the name Deplorables.

Gregory A Lynn
Gregory A Lynn
2 years ago

And to think I came here to see what these guys thought of Taylor Swift these days.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

But don’t forget the real injustice here. Ted Cruz got yelled at in a restaurant!

Catalpa
Catalpa
2 years ago

@Surplus

I won’t say that I disagree with you, but please don’t make comments that violate the comments policy regarding violence.

MissEB47 (Resident Rainbow Lorikeet and Beak Typist)
MissEB47 (Resident Rainbow Lorikeet and Beak Typist)
2 years ago

Hippodameia-

“REPUBLICANS LOVE RAPE” They sure do. They prove it everyday. They elected the ‘Pussy Grabber in Chief’ and now they elected Kavanaugh as Supreme Court judge. They think rape is no big deal, in fact they think it’s a joke. They laugh at the pain of rape survivors (I saw red at the Grape Victim meme). They think it’s ok for rapists to hold office or be in positions of power. So display 100 of those bumper stickers, because it’s true. They really DO love rape and many of them are rapists! Republicans really disgust me and many other people. I’m glad there is a great deal of people who are fighting them. I hope people will be voting in droves this November.

epitome of incomprehensibility

Some of these tweets remind me of Holocaust deniers: they claim it couldn’t possibly have happened but also think it’d be a pretty good idea. I see that kind of doublethink in the ones mocking Dr. Ford – “Oh, she couldn’t have been sexually assaulted, but it’d be funny if she were, right?”

On a lighter note, I can see Neo-Puritan Tinder Slut as a band name. (Alt-rock. Anti alt-right alt-rock.)

Pretty Pink Punnani Princess
Pretty Pink Punnani Princess
2 years ago

And people wonder why I can never be on their side. They are sick individuals who must be stopped.

Knitting Cat Lady
Knitting Cat Lady
2 years ago

On saturday I was modding the live chat on a stream by Kristi Winters where she was talking to Kevin Logan. It’s a regular thing they do.

Kristi was livid about the whole Kavanaugh thing. And rightly so.

For the last third the chat was invaded by trolls. They were sent by Vee, who is a buddy of Carl of Swindon.

There were five of us mods and we still had trouble keeping up. Some of the comments posted were utterly vile.

Also: Kavanaugh’s first name is Brett. Brett is a plank of wood in German. Fitting name, I say.

And I really hope Kavanaugh gets eaten by a localized rip in the space-time continuum.

Pretty Pink Punnani Princess
Pretty Pink Punnani Princess
2 years ago

If these people ever bring a war on (and with their war hungry ass, I know they will and they will initiate it too), well then, I would have to say with a straight face that I would have no issue being apart of the movement to take them down. These slimes need to get what’s coming to them and there’s no room for people like that in this world. Just total puke-worthy human mutants.

Bina
2 years ago

#BeersForBrett = Bloated Bellies and Liver Cirrhosis For All Deplorables.

And may their insurers all reject them when they come crying for transplants, too.

(How’s THAT for a drought of drinkable tears, fashtrash?)

SpukiKitty
SpukiKitty
2 years ago

Joke’s on these “BeersFoBrett” weaklings. Their little tweets will only “trigger” a massive packing of voting booths by the very people….the stronger, smarter, better, more numerous, POWERFUL people….they mock.

When a bunch of GOPers are replaced by Democrats, we need to start a “DrinksForDemocracy” hashtag and show these Fascist snowflakes who’s REALLY in charge.

I have seen the TRUE vision of the Future….

A Birkenstock….smashing a Fascist’s face….Forever!

Bina
2 years ago

And speaking of no-tears-here, there’s a lipstick that says it all:

https://www.thisisinsider.com/kavanaugh-lipslut-lipstick-sexual-assault-organization-2018-10

All proceeds go to sexual assault orgs.

Be sure to whip out your tube and wave it under the nose of every MAGAt you can find.

Tosca, Chaos made Flesh, Servant of the Purring Jew
Tosca, Chaos made Flesh, Servant of the Purring Jew
2 years ago

American Mammotheers…I am so, so sorry.

For those of you who aren’t rich cishet white men, or are survivors of sexual violence (or both), please look after yourselves. You are loved, you are important, your presence makes the world a brighter and better place. Just by being you, you have survived obstacles and challenges that would leave these whooping shitstains sobbing in the fetal position. You are beautiful fairy lights in the dark of your nation’s current slide into madness. You deserve so, so much better, and I hope the day is coming when you will get it.

Does anyone know how to send messages of support to Dr. Ford? She must be feeling so bad.

Here are some videos of baby Australian animals.
Baby wombat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCZ9Zyi6XaA
Baby Tasmanian devils https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCZ9Zyi6XaA
Baby emu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WW6dtCppZIc
Baby kangaroo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO5wXV3jXpA

Gijoel
Gijoel
2 years ago

@hippodermia

Yeah, but if you point out their shitty behavior they set the cops on you.

SpukiKitty
SpukiKitty
2 years ago

Hippodameia
October 7, 2018 at 10:07 pm

I ordered a bunch of “REPUBLICANS LOVE RAPE” bumper stickers today. Some of my family members think I’m going to get myself killed, but I’ve already had people try to run me off the road for my “Black Lives Matter” bumper sticker and I’m not going down without a fight.

Trump is scum. His supporters are scum. His followers are scum.

Gijoel may be well-meaning but pay no attention to him.

You are awesome; DO IT! We need to fight back, not cower!

Emmytiel
Emmytiel
2 years ago

They have all repeatedly made it perfectly clear they don’t give a damn about sexual assault victims and are now, again, making it clear that assigning a judge that repeatedly lies under oath and can’t even pretend to be unbiased is a good idea as long as it “owns the libs.” I read someone say, somewhere, that it seems like repubs would cut off their hand if they thought it would make a liberal cry and it just seems more and more true every day.

rainwoman0451
rainwoman0451
2 years ago

Regarding violence and even outright cruelty as a bonding experience, I hate to say it but that’s a lesson that the American left, long the victim of highly successful divide and conquer policies by their enemies, badly needs to learn if it’s to survive at all.

Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
2 years ago

They may not even care if he never builds his infamous wall.

As it will turn out at the time of midterms, “The real wall is the enemies you made along the way”.

Johanna
Johanna
2 years ago

Ugh. Just reading these makes me feel like I need a shower. Every time I think they can’t get more revolting they prove me wrong. It’s like the world’s worst super power.

Gijoel
Gijoel
2 years ago

@SpukiKitty

Not criticizing Hippodameia. Just pointing out shitty hypocritical behaviour of conservatives. Also sorry for getting your name wrong Hippodameia.

Temascos
Temascos
2 years ago

Although I am a whole continent away from the USA, seeing that Kavanuagh was confirmed made me incredibly angry. Someone so ill qualified, bad temprament, even excluding the allegations he should not be on the Supreme Court for decades to come. But he is.

The Republicans will gloat for a couple of weeks, but victory celebrations tend to be short lived compared to anger over wrong-doing.

Make every Republican lose their seat from now on when possible. They are not a functioning party, they intend to not be democratic leaders, but tyrants instead. For all their flaws at least the Democratic party has human beings who feel empathy, compassion, and love towards other humans. The time to choose other, more ideal candidates will have to wait until the Republicans are gone.

They spat on Lincoln’s legacy, make them pay.

Hippodameia
Hippodameia
2 years ago

Here’s what happened when the scumbags thought they were invincible and inevitable:

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/day-klan-messed-wrong-people-pj-wilcox-author

Hippodameia
Hippodameia
2 years ago
Moggie
Moggie
2 years ago

OT: Something Awful is Getting Sued, And It’s All Thanks to Hitler. Alan, if you’re reading, it would be good to hear your professional opinion of SA’s responses to the law firm in question. It’s a bit Arkell v Pressdram, if you know what I mean.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
2 years ago

I hope the MAGAts are so busy dancing and celebrating amd getting hung over that they don’t make it to the polls in November. May they stay home on Nov. 6 marinating smugly in beer fumes, blissfully unaware of the approaching thousand-foot blue tsunami.

They’re beyond vile. Especially the women. They won’t be laughing so loud when it’s their own daughter who encounters one of the thousands of Brett Kavanaughs who now feel sanctioned to abuse teenage girls because it’s their golden ticket to the executive boys’ club. When it’s their own daughter who needs a lifesaving D&C or birth control to regulate her painful periods. When their husbands develop black lung, or are killed by unsafe work environments. When the social safety net gets ripped away, and an illness or accident wipes out their life savings. When all of America is covered with posters of Trump’s orange mug, schoolchildren are made to salute it each morning, and people are arrested and killed if they so much as look sideways. When neighbors start turning each other in for imaginary crimes against the state, and the “tyrannical government” they railed against is replaced by something far, far worse. When the United States turns into Rwanda, and the lady who can’t wait to crow over cat lady obituaries with her grandchildren discovers that her grandchildren loathe and disown her for her role in destroying what was once a great country, and her place on the family tree becomes a dark spot cloaked in shame.

Maybe then it will start to dawn on their tiny pea brains that they screwed up, bigly.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
2 years ago

@ moggie

Heh, that was interesting. I’ve had similar run-ins with Getty Images. They do the same thing.

It’s certainly a robust response. Unfortunately Grabbem & Run or whatever, are arguably in the right over the copyright claim (this is the issue that the EU have been dealing with on that Art 13 thing).

However they’re claiming the full licence fees, and whilst they are entitled to claim that, we’ve had luck persuading courts that they should only be entitled to any actual losses they incurred (rather than the loss of the fee). Assessing damages like this is a complex topic. Generally you can only claim for an actual loss. But then there’s all the car park cases. If you don’t pay for a ticket, what have they actually lost? But the courts have said that the costs of enforcement can be averaged out amongst offenders. But anyway, this is all getting a bit rambly.

One thing I must confess I didn’t like, and has sapped any sympathy I otherwise had, is that he takes the piss out of the person’s name. That would be bad enough anyway, it’s a bit childish. It’s made worse though as it appears to be an attack just because the name isn’t a typical white person name.

Moggie
Moggie
2 years ago

Alan:

One thing I must confess I didn’t like, and has sapped any sympathy I otherwise had, is that he takes the piss out of the person’s name. That would be bad enough anyway, it’s a bit childish. It’s made worse though as it appears to be an attack just because the name isn’t a typical white person name.

Agreed. I’m not an SA reader, and I have a feeling the guy has proven himself unpleasant in the past, so I’m not exactly cheering him on.

Sheila Crosby
2 years ago

I’m on another continent and I’m furious. I also need a break fromt ehinterne for a few days.

Moggie
Moggie
2 years ago

Do they ever ask themselves “are we the baddies?”

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
2 years ago

They revel in being the baddies.

I just hope, that if the shoe is ever on the other foot, they don’t have the audacity to ask for any quarter in return.

Dormousing_it
Dormousing_it
2 years ago

Even though I knew this was going to happen, it still enraged me. These bastards are some sore winners.

OT: My 48 year old little sister passed away a few days ago. She had been batting heart disease for the past 10 years. I’m in a “life is pointless” kinda frame of mind right now.

opposablethumbs
opposablethumbs
2 years ago

@Dormousing_it, I’m so sorry, I really am. I hope very much that you have some supportive people around you. I know it’s only internet-stranger words on the screen … 🙁

SpukiKitty
SpukiKitty
2 years ago

@Hippodameia

That was PURE AWESOME!

Ariblester
Ariblester
2 years ago

@Moggie

As a former SA reader, I can confirm that Lowtax aims real low when it comes to so-called legal disputes, an attitude that probably got solidified after he got burnt on some ad-revenue deal with some shady Web startup called eFront (I still remember the multiple fake banner ads cussing out its CEO on every page in its aftermath). He truly is an unapologetic asshole.

kupo
kupo
2 years ago

They actually think they’re the good guys. They think morality is about the genitalia and skin color of the people you have sex with and everything they do to restrict others’ rights is holy and good.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
2 years ago

Maybe it’s not a bad idea if they drink themselves into a coma to own the libs.

I would also be really triggered if they ate Tide Pods.

Amaror
Amaror
2 years ago

@Knitting Cat Lady
How dare you ?! Planks are great. Planks build houses and boats. They even save lives should those boats happen to sink. They can also be burned to provide heat and comfort.
Kavanaugh doesn’t build homes or boats. He likely ended many more lives then he saved. And I doubt there’s a human alive that Kavanaugh provided comfort or even just heat for. His wife and children included.
He doesn’t deserve to be called a Brett.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

I’m so sorry, Dormousing It.

Allandrel
Allandrel
2 years ago

@Alan Robertshaw

I just hope, that if the shoe is ever on the other foot, they don’t have the audacity to ask for any quarter in return.

They will. Just like Megatron. Just like Freeza.

The question is, will we give it to them, or will we become them?

Cindy
Cindy
2 years ago

@Allandrel

Fighting fascists does not make one a fascist. Don’t you dare pull this both sides bullcrap.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
2 years ago

@ dormousing_it

As always, words seem so inadequate at times like this; but for what it’s worth I really feel you.

Dormousing_it
Dormousing_it
2 years ago

Thank you, everyone. Life goes on, as they say.

Allandrel
Allandrel
2 years ago

@Cindy

Fighting fascists does not make one a fascist. Don’t you dare pull this both sides bullcrap.

I’m not. I did not say that fighting fascists makes one a fascist, or that killing a fascist who is trying to kill people makes one a fascist.

I talked about defeated fascists begging for mercy.

Killing helpless enemies who beg for mercy makes one a fascist. Disdain for mercy is one of their defining features.

If a fascist surrenders, you treat them according to the laws and customs of war, and try them fairly for their crimes.

j
j
2 years ago

Now is the time to try and get your state law makers to enshrine proper abortion rights. Since Roe vs Wade passed many states never properly gave abortion rights since those rights were given by the feds.

The future of abortion rights is more in question than ever since the last bulwark against anti-abortionists could very well be overturned.

Cindy
Cindy
2 years ago

@Allandrel

You do you, buddy.

Moggie
Moggie
2 years ago

@Dormousing_it, I hope you can be around people who can share the burden, for a while. When my mother died, it was that “life goes on” thing which seemed particularly unfair. I thought: why is the world carrying on as if nothing has happened? Three things helped: family, who came together for a while; friends, prepared to just listen while I talked it out; and the knowledge that her suffering was over.

It’s bloody hard for a while, no question, but it does eventually get easier. Hang in there.

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
2 years ago

Dormousing, I’m so sorry for your loss. May the memories of your sister be a blessing for all who cared about her.

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
2 years ago

@Alan

This Something Awful lawsuit reminds me a bit of Prenda Law – are you familiar with that mess?

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
2 years ago

@ Vicky P

I wasn’t, but I like the idea of a legal mess that wasn’t my fault so I looked it up.

We had a similar case here; and now it’s bugging me because there was something particularly interesting about it, and I can’t for the life of me remember what! 🙂