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He’s red and mad and they don’t care: Why the MRAs are MIA on Kavanaugh

Angry, entitled, and facing multiple accusations of sexual assault: You’d think Brett Kavanaugh would be an MRA icon. Nope.

By David Futrelle

With his sham FBI background report prematurely closed, and his confirmation vote looming, Brett Kavanaugh is omnipresent in the media at the moment. Cable news is pretty much wall-to-wall Kavanaugh, and social media is overflowing with takes — hot and otherwise — on the overgrown frat boy who somehow became a Supreme Court nominee.

If you’re looking for a respite from all the Kavanaugh talk online, might I suggest you take a look at the Men’s Rights subreddit?

Yes, you read that right. As strange as it might seem, the very people you might expect to be most worked up about the alleged injustices faced by red-faced Brett don’t actually seem to give a shit. On the Men’s Rights subreddit today there is virtually no discussion of the wannabe Supreme Court justice. Scanning through the top 100 posts on the subreddit at the moment, I found only three links to articles with Kavanaugh as their central focus; there are an equal number of threads relating to Cassie Jaye and her two-year-old documentary The Red Pill.

Over on A Voice for Men — which, despite its waning influence, is still the most prominent Men’s Right site outside of the Men’s Rights subreddit — there have been a grand total of three posts on Kavanaugh, one of them  bearing the scintillating title Dr. Christine Ford, Brett Kavanaugh, and the automatic outgroup derogation of men” and another that consists of nothing more than a reposted meme (and a pretty dumb one at that).  The featured post on the site today? A tooth-grindingly unfunny “satirical” piece jokingly urging Hollywood to reboot Deliverance with a female-only cast.

Certainly there are plenty of Men’s-Rights-adjacent men (and women) out there talking and writing and tweeting about Kavanaugh. So why are only a tiny handful of those who identify primarily as Men’s Rights activists taking up his terrible cause? Isn’t he, as the alleged victim of allegedly false accusations, the ideal poster boy for the Men’s Rights movement?

It’s not that MRAs don’t support Kavanaugh, at least in an abstract sense, or that they believe his accusers. AVFM’s Paul Elam managed to call Kavanaugh accuser Christine Blasey Ford a “rape liar” eight times in his post defending the red-faced nominee.

Meanwhile, in the handful of discussions of l’affaire Kavanaugh I’ve managed to find in the MRA-adjacent Men Going Their Own Way subreddit, the regulars have heaped praise on Kavanaugh while referring to Ford, variously, as a “bitch,” a “whore,” a “fucking lying piece of shit,” and a “dumb twat” who “probably fantasizes about” getting raped.

“It’s about damn time a man like Kav stood up to these evil, vile, feminist bitches trying to crush a man’s life on accusation alone,” wrote one MGTOW calling himself GoDuke2018Now. “I’m hoping more men will see this and stand the fuck up and fight back against these false ‘allegations’ feminist whores use to attack us.”

“That bitch called christine ford is fucking disgusting,” agreed someone called Drugs110. “I’ve seen plenty of 70 year old grannies more attractive than that ugly sack of shit.”

But despite their admiration for Kavanaugh and their even more palpable hatred of Ford, MRAs and MGTOWs are having a hard time staying interested in the political drama set off by Ford’s accusations.

Why is this? Because of a certain political obtuseness that lies at the center of MRA ideology. Taking their cue from Men;s Rights granddaddy Warren Farrell, MRAs have managed to convince themselves that we live in a world secretly ruled, behind the scenes, by women.

In his seminal The Myth of Male Power, Farrell argues that even though “almost all legislators are men,” the majority of voters (at least in the US) are women, and thus the men nominally in charged are forced to do their bidding of their secret female overlordsladies. “Overall,” he wrote, “a legislator is to the voter what a chauffeur is to the employer – both look like they’re in charge but both can be fired if they don’t go where they’re told.”

Weird, because some 55 percent of women oppose Kavanaugh, with only 37 percent supporting his elevation to the bench. Yet it seems highly likely that Kavanaugh will be confirmed. It’s safe to say that, especially at this particular moment in our political history, you’re not going to find a lot of women out there who see male legislators as their own personal chauffeurs.

Amazingly, most MRAs seem to have bought into Farrell’s absurd logic almost completely, dismissing both Democrats and Republicans as more-or-less-identical puppets of the so-called “gynocracy” and reflexively ignoring electoral politics.

I’m glad. Because it’s clear that this stance has been disastrous for the Men’s Rights movement, dramatically limiting its political influence.

Several years ago, the emergent alt-right embraced Trump with enthusiasm, at once boosting his campaign and their own political fortunes; now they have a president who has repeatedly signaled his support for them and who has taken numerous concrete steps to help carry out their racist agenda.

Meanwhile, Men’s Rights activists stood on the sidelines, and have watched their movement shrivel even as the fortunes of the alt-right have soared. There are assorted alt-rightists in and around the White House, and they have the ear of the president. Men’s Rights activists could have had the same sort of influence on Trump, who is after all a huge misogynist, someone who would undoubtedly react with enthusiasm to many MRA ideas, were he ever to hear them. But MRAs have so little political capital (and basic political knowhow) that they can’t even get their foot in the door.

MRAs’ continuing disinterest in Kavanaugh shows they’ve learned precisely nothing from this self-inflicted debacle.

Thanks, fellas! You’ve done all of use who oppose your vile agenda an enormous favor.

Actually, you’ve done us two favors. Because there are some on the left who share your seemingly cynical but actually profoundly naive dismissal of electoral politics, who still argue with a straight face that there is no meaningful difference between Democrats and Republicans and that voting is largely a waste of energy.

Anyone who thinks this is a viable political stance in the US at the present moment is invited to take a look at the Mens Rights movement and ask if they want to end up like them.

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Bina
6 years ago

a legislator is to the voter what a chauffeur is to the employer – both look like they’re in charge but both can be fired if they don’t go where they’re told.

Weird. It’s like Mr. Miniskirt Power never heard of industry lobbyists. Or the machine politics of the DNC. Or corporate “donors”. Or…

Nugax
Nugax
6 years ago

Long time reader, first time commenter.

I was wondering, with all seriousness, if anyone might get on board with a massive senator faxing campaign. Like, fax them copies of the testimony that people who say they were ignored by the FBI. Fax them personal MeToo statements. Fax them definitions of judicial temperament. Fax them promises that one’s whole household will vote against them.

Assuming the faxes haven’t been disconnected, everyone always says that, aside from physically showing up (and not everyone has that ability) to talk in person, that’s the best way to get senators to pay attention to an issue.

I don’t know that it would be effective, but it’s better than just watching.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

They have never been willing to do any political activism beyond internet trolling. It’s no surprise they aren’t doing anything now. It would actually be hilarious if they did try and lobby Republicans on men’s workplace safety though. Given Kavanaugh’s track record, if the MRM actually care about this issue, they’d be joining the “SJWs” and opposing this nomination. Ironically, I think the MRM’s completely disingenuous lip service to issues like men’s workplace safety, mental health and male abuse survivors is what has kept them from building any sort of real cache in the broader alt-right movement. The MRA base peeled off to head for the whiter pastures of the alt-right groups who are not shy about their fascism.

Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
6 years ago

Fax them? Fax them? This isn’t the 1990s!

Rabid Rabbit
Rabid Rabbit
6 years ago

@Surplus:

Assuming their offices still have fax machines, it might actually be the most effective (read: inconvenient for their staffers) way of doing things. Unlike emails and phone calls, faxes are physical. It’s why the NRA loves postcards: It’s hard to deny the existence of those bags of mail. Your office running out of fax paper has a somewhat similar effect.

Postcards would be more effective, but the campaign would have had to start a week ago to give them time to arrive.

Ooble
Ooble
6 years ago

@Surplus
Doesn’t really surprise me that the political establishment is far enough behind the times to pay more attention to faxes than email.

Diptych
Diptych
6 years ago

I just figured out who Kavanaugh reminds me of. It’s Arnold Rimmer.

Honestly, I can’t get my head around the situation. I mean, the whole thing is so bizarre, I’m stuck on the least bizarre part – that the man whose evidence is so important for determining the past of this judge is a man called Mr Judge.

Wondering
Wondering
6 years ago

Don’t MRAs want abortion legalized? So they don’t have to pay child support? They may not want a judge who’s sure to restrict the ability to get one.

griffon8
griffon8
6 years ago

@Diptych: My favorite comparison of Kavanaugh has been to Mr. Haney from Green Acres.

iknklast
iknklast
6 years ago

Wondering – MRAs want it both ways. They don’t want women to be able to “trick” them into being a father and paying child support, but they don’t want women to have control over their own bodies. They complain about women getting abortions without consulting men, and they think the men should have the right to veto the abortion. So, as with everything else, they want it to be both one way and the other. And probably also several places in between that are equally incompatible.

Bakunin
Bakunin
6 years ago

@Diptych
That’s a bit unfair to Rimmer I feel. He was an officious nitwit, but I’d rather deal with him than Kavanaugh’s boozy frat boys. And there were enough episodes that softened him a bit.

Catalpa
Catalpa
6 years ago

@Wondering

Nah, MRAs want “paper abortions” to be legalized and widely available. That is, a paper that a man can sign saying that he wants nothing to do with his offspring and therefore won’t be held responsible for support payments or anything else about a child and their needs that might slightly inconvenience him.

Regular old medical abortions, though, no. Having abortions available for women just gives them more incentive to be big slutty sluts, you see. And that’s terrible. So therefore women should be forced to keep their pregnancies and men should be able to opt out of their responsibilities at any time.

MissEB47 (Resident Lorikeet and Beak Typist)
MissEB47 (Resident Lorikeet and Beak Typist)
6 years ago

Diptych-I have to admit, he does look like Rimmer. While portraying Rimmer, Chris Barrie can make the most ridiculous facies that I tried but could never pull off, eg-

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ve7kiSVkWcM/UHM4_GzXQSI/AAAAAAAAAf4/3OmHOZar6M0/s1600/red-dwarf-trojan-shutdown-21.png

Seriously, how does one make a face like that?! It goes to show what an amazing actor Chris Barrie is. Rimmer is also a much better person. He’s very annoying at times, but at least he is not a rapist.

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
6 years ago

This MRA assertion that women secretly run the world reminds me of a similar assertion made in the mainstream press back in the day (the mid-1960s, just before feminism reemerged). Women secretly run the world, it was claimed, because women outlive men. This means that after their husbands die, elderly wealthy widows get to decide what to do with their late husbands’ stocks and bonds, etc. Weirdly, the way the world works doesn’t reflect all this power!

Diptych
Diptych
6 years ago

Rimmer is also a much better person. He’s very annoying at times, but at least he is not a rapist.

Um… about that. 🙁 It was established that Rimmer had sex with a woman who was suffering from a concussion and thought he was someone else – in other words, who couldn’t consent.

Newt
Newt
6 years ago

It was established that Rimmer had sex with a woman who was suffering from a concussion and thought he was someone else – in other words, who couldn’t consent.

And that he’d hypnotised another into going on a date with him. And in one of the awful Season 8 episodes, he (deliberately) gave himself the “Sexual Magnetism” virus.

Dormousing_it
Dormousing_it
6 years ago

I think the thing to do would be to hit them on all fronts – calling, emailing, snail mailing (including certified letters – someone has to sign for those), and faxing. That said, talk is cheap.

Moggie
Moggie
6 years ago

Trump will be upset to learn that he’s been passed over for the 2018 Nobel peace prize. It’s been joinly awarded to Denis Mukwege and Nadia Murad “for their efforts to end the use of sexual violence as a weapon of war and armed conflict”:

https://twitter.com/NobelPrize/status/1048135860607221760

A woman, and a man who helps women! Donnie won’t like this!

opposablethumbs
opposablethumbs
6 years ago

OT – just a general-interest link:

“The right denigrates equal rights campaigns as ‘grievances’ while cornering the market in victimhood”

There is always identity in politics. […] The trouble is, not all identities count as equal. The more power they carry, the less likely the carrier is to be aware of it as an identity at all. Nobody asks me: “When did you come out as straight?” or “How did you balance travelling as a foreign correspondent with raising children?” because straight men don’t get asked that. What is often dismissed as “identity politics” might be more accurately just called “politics” originating from the concerns of less advantaged groups.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/oct/05/no-shock-powerful-hate-identity-politics

Very good article by Gary Younge – nothing that would come as a surprise revelation to mammotheers :-s but well-expressed and nice to see it in the grauniad.

Wetherby
Wetherby
6 years ago

Trump will be upset to learn that he’s been passed over for the 2018 Nobel peace prize. It’s been joinly awarded to Denis Mukwege and Nadia Murad “for their efforts to end the use of sexual violence as a weapon of war and armed conflict”:

https://twitter.com/NobelPrize/status/1048135860607221760

A woman, and a man who helps women! Donnie won’t like this!

Absolutely superb choices. I gather Denis Mukwege has been runner-up quite a few times over the past few years (his credentials speak for themselves), but this was definitely the year to finally make him the winner. It was also wholly appropriate for him to share the prize with someone who’s been a high-profile victim of the kind of politicised sexual violence he’s devoted much of his professional life to opposing.

And yes, the fact that the announcement came at the end of this particular week could hardly have been better timed.

Yutolia the Green Hash Thing
Yutolia the Green Hash Thing
6 years ago

Not only are faxes physical, but the paper and ink they require cost money. I think this is a great idea!!!

Moggie
Moggie
6 years ago

51-49 for Kavanaugh. What the fuck is the deal with Joe Manchin?

Marshmallow Stacey Maximal (formerly bluecat)
Marshmallow Stacey Maximal (formerly bluecat)
6 years ago

So they started 51 – 49 and at the end of this week and that gruelling testimony, plus Kavanaugh showing a whole other lot of ways he’s unfit, it’s still 51 – 49.

And now… what?

I don’t live in the US, but if I did I’d be jamming every fax machine in the country.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
6 years ago

If you want to annoy people with faxes, use tinted or patterned paper so it uses more of their ink up. And if you use graphics and fancy serif fonts it hogs their phone line.

Moggie
Moggie
6 years ago

2018 continues to provide drama: now the head of INTERPOL has gone missing:

https://twitter.com/INTERPOL_HQ/status/1048198072713580544

I don’t want to distract from Kavanaugh, but this sounds bad.

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