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The Brett Kavanaugh Shitshow: Open Thread

This fucking guy

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UPDATE: This hearing so so fucking hard to watch. But it’s a disaster for the GOP. Ford is utterly convincing and so, so brave.

By David Futrelle

We’re just hours away from what promises to be one of the most surreal and infuriating Senate hearings ever. News keeps breaking. I’m yelling at my television.

So I’m opening up a thread for everyone who wants to talk about this, to vent, to share breaking news and personal stories. No trolls. (If anyone starts posting trolly or other otherwise problematic shit, email and I will ban them.)

Here are some relevant tweets I’ve run across today:

https://twitter.com/AaronBlake/status/1044964634564988929

https://twitter.com/AdamWeinstein/status/1045091328063934469

https://twitter.com/eschor/status/1045096168370393090

https://twitter.com/jonfavs/status/1045101040427659265

I will probably be updating this post with new stuff as events develop.

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Handsome :Punkle Stan: Jack

So, apparently Christine Ford’s parents are members of the same country club as Kavanaugh’s parents and her father is more concerned about losing his golf membership than what happened to his daughter.

being socially isolated and hated by all is sometimes a very deserving punishment for fucking asshole parents and i hope they fucking get spit on every day of their lives

and the country club kicks them out anyway

Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
6 years ago

While discussing the Kavanaugh allegations, a woman in Montana argues that an 18-year-old male groping a woman “is not a big deal.”

Yeah, we know… that’s the whole issue in a nutshell. To the powerful MEN who run the world, the assault of a woman is unimportant.

Fishy Goat
Fishy Goat
6 years ago

And perjury is a-ok, too. :P:P:P

Bananananana dakry: Short-Haired, Fat, and Deranged
Bananananana dakry: Short-Haired, Fat, and Deranged
6 years ago

I just fucking can’t. I can’t. People like me walk around all the time with at least a subconscious level of fear and frustration while people like THEM think it’s A-OK to use, abuse, and throw away us because we don’t have their power, privilege, color or gender, and rig the rules to further favor themselves. Not when my stepmother, a therapist and a lovely woman who likely dealt with many such client experiences, died a week ago. I just freaking can’t. I’m glad I’ve got a counseling session in a week or so, because with this bottled reserve of frustration, rage, and grief I’m not sure I can handle it much longer.

Fuck them all.

Z&T
Z&T
6 years ago

@ Bananananana dakry,

I’m very sorry to hear about your stepmother’s passing. She sounds like a wonderful person who helped many.

My mom passed in October of last year. I am reminded as this date is coming up. I too am upset by various things, including many current events, to the point where it could drive me to drink. And has. But I have to cut down, drinking is not the answer.

I am trying to go back to more healthy eating, I have to move forward in general and it’s a start. I almost went to the store today, I forced myself to do some chores and convinced myself to make a healthy dinner. It’s going to be pasta and salad. I challenged myself to cook with what I have so will not be tempted to get any alc. or junk food. I saw that a jar of pasta sauce I had recently expired. It’s unopened so I’m sure it’s still fine.

I should use it soon though and that decided me. Thank you expired pasta sauce.

I have to move forward and I know my mom would want me to. It isn’t easy and with many issues I’m really having to force myself. Even little things, chores, healthy eating, I’m really lacking in motivation and all the recent events are not helping either.
But, I’m trying to hang in there and move forward little by little as best I can. There have been many days, and many times throughout the days, where I have been repeating to myself: just keep going.

I will keep you in my thoughts and hope that stress stays away.
Take care of yourself,

– Z

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
6 years ago

@Bananananana dakry

May the memory of your stepmother be a blessing for all who knew her.

Bananananana dakry: Short-Haired, Fat, and Deranged
Bananananana dakry: Short-Haired, Fat, and Deranged
6 years ago

@Z&T

Thank you. It’s… surreal. Mr. Dakry and I saw her and my dad towards the beginning of this year (we live across the country). She wasn’t well then and I know she was getting sicker in recent months, but this is still clean out of the blue, even for my father. Mentally, though, she was still a lovely, compassionate, and vital person. I’m trying to reconcile this with the fact she’s just… gone. Fucking bereavement at work doesn’t even give time for stepparents. Dad didn’t expect me to go to the funeral given the distance, but still.

This and all this political bullshit and work whingeing about metrics is kicking the crap out of me, emotionally. I haven’t eaten too healthy either recently, and motivation is a lot harder for me right now. I’m praying that something good falls out from all of this, and frankly I’m not sure how theistic I am about that even. At the same time I’m sickened and enraged by how my native faith has been perverted by the powerful and the pedantic voice of reality and science is making me doubt anything more than this, I’m envious my father is still keeping his faith despite his recent grief.

I’ve got a headache and a leaden ball in my chest, and fuck, now I want to crawl into yet another pint of Ben n’ Jerry’s, despite the price and the fact it and the soda’s not doing my weight or my knees any favors. I also have to work tonight. Crap.

Bananananana dakry: Short-Haired, Fat, and Deranged
Bananananana dakry: Short-Haired, Fat, and Deranged
6 years ago

@Victorious Parasol

I think it was. A lot of her clients came to her visitation, so I’m told. That’s a lot of people she influenced for the better.

Scildfreja Unnyðnes
Scildfreja Unnyðnes
6 years ago

@Bananananana dakry, <3 please take care of yourself my duck, all our love.

Bananananana dakry: Short-Haired, Fat, and Deranged
Bananananana dakry: Short-Haired, Fat, and Deranged
6 years ago

@Scildfreja

Thank you. That means quite a bit, coming from the foremost troll-deflator we have. I know I should have been screaming louder before about all this bullshit going down, but it’s a positive feedback loop where I feel worse, lose motivation further, and feel worse for that. Even before this current loss hit.

I just keep thinking about Langston Hughes’s poem “Watts” and what happens to a dream deferred.

“Maybe it just sags like a heavy load.
…or does it explode?

Bananananana dakry: Short-Haired, Fat, and Deranged
Bananananana dakry: Short-Haired, Fat, and Deranged
6 years ago

Was wrong about the title. It’s “Harlem (Dream Deferred)”.

Cyborgette
Cyborgette
6 years ago

/me sends @Bananananana dakry sympathies and cat purring vibrations

I’m gonna echo Scildfreja, please don’t be afraid to put yourself first right now. <3

Scildfreja Unnyðnes
Scildfreja Unnyðnes
6 years ago

it’s absolutely a positive feedback loop. Catharsis doesn’t work, screaming angrily into the void just makes the anger come easier next time and stay longer than it ought.

Cut a hole through the hate, divert it around you. Rock in a river, and all that. It’ll still be there when you get back, and you’ll be better rested to take meaningful action.

I’m sure sleep is difficult. Food and water are a reasonable substitute, so make sure you stay hydrated and fed, even if you don’t want to eat. Oatmeal is nice for that, i find.

Pay attention to your breathing. Not too deep, not too fast. If you ever feel the anger overtaking you, stop what you’re doing and take a few slow breaths. Five seconds in, three seconds hold, seven seconds out. Lungs three-quarters full at most. Anxiety and panic are related to your blood acidity; those breathing patterns will reduce the carbon dioxide in your blood and allow your autonomic response to ease a little. Meditation is good too, if you’re inclined.

You’re gonna be fine. I know you can get through it. <3 Allow yourself to take it slow when you need to.

– S

Michael Suttkus, II
Michael Suttkus, II
6 years ago

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

What is it about Kavanaugh that the right are so desperate to confirm. I mean, rich white conservative judges are pretty a dime a dozen. What’s so special about this guy that they’re finding guys who inexplicably are admitting to a crime in order to protect him

It’s all about timing. Under normal circumstances, derailing Kavanaugh’s nomination would be no big deal. He gets dumped, the guy with no agenda in the White House picks the next guy off their list of anti-choice proto-fascists and the process begins again.

But right now they’re in trouble. You’ve got the elections coming up in November. Some of those are going to be close. Some of those might go to the Supreme Court. Would be nice to have a majority of Conservative partisans in time for that.

More pressingly, though, is that they may well lose control of one or both houses of Congress. If that happens, the “Process begins again” above gets derailed. They don’t have time to get another nominee through the process before the election. Every extra Democrat seated makes it that much harder for them to force through a hyper-partisan extremist monster.

It’s why they will not stand for even a pretense of an investigation. Any delay gives power to the Democrats.

Kavanaugh is their only option for getting control of the court finalized before the election. Blocking Kavanaugh is our only option for stopping them from controlling the court for the foreseeable future.

Redsilkphoenix: Jetpack Vixen, Intergalactic Meanie
Redsilkphoenix: Jetpack Vixen, Intergalactic Meanie
6 years ago

Brain bleach to give those upset by recent events something to recharge with:

http://youtu.be/J11uu8L8FTY

Big cats playing with boxes.

Big cats with toilet paper.

Bananananana dakry: Short-Haired, Fat, and Deranged
Bananananana dakry: Short-Haired, Fat, and Deranged
6 years ago

@Scildfreja

I do understand. I’ve been here long enough and read enough WHTM articles to know how MRAs, incels and others hatewank, get addicted to it, and then it gets to the point where they take potentially lethal action. My positive feedback loop, OTOH, while including anger, is more frustration, disgust, despair, and self-directed loathing and anger for Not Doing More, whatever the fuck that’s supposed to be, I guess.

I know addiction to anger as well as hatred is potentially destructive, okay? I know it reinforces itself. But…damn it. Because of my gender, I’m told I’m supposed to Be Nice. To Get Along. To let other people have whatever they want, because of course it’s always more important than whatever I want, whatever it is, and apologize and diminish myself in their favor. I work at a retail job where I have to keep my true feelings about some people bottled up, no matter how stupid and cruel they may be to me. And the left-leaning Christianity I was raised in does believe there is a place for righteous anger at injustice, to use it as a motivating factor to fix it. To quote Mr. Nancy, “Anger gets SHIT DONE.”

I just feel like I’m being gelded of my feelings sometimes by the world, my right to hurt, while these assholes are allowed to temper tantrum like huge spoiled brats when their candy is being taken away. I’m not a damn robot and I can’t push how I feel away. I demand a right to my own anger!

opposablethumbs
opposablethumbs
6 years ago

@Bananananana dakry, all my sympathy – I’m really sorry you have lost somebody who sounds like a wonderful person. I hope you are able to give yourself some looking-after, and that you have some support close around you :-s
It’s a long slow process, I know – my wishes for you too, Z&T; I’m years further along but it’s the same street. {{{to all of us with that absence in our lives}}}
(those { } are supposed to read as virtual hugs, btw)

Marshmallow Stacey Maximal (formerly bluecat)
Marshmallow Stacey Maximal (formerly bluecat)
6 years ago

To much really to process right now and most of it awful and upsetting in many different ways.

But a person who interests me now is Renate Dolphin, one of the 65 women the Republicans found to sign a letter stating that Kavanaugh had never raped them – kind of the “look at all the banks I didn’t rob” defence for him. And that he’d always treated women respectfully.

Except now she knows he didn’t always treat women respectfully, specifically not her, and that he was part of a group of boys boasting about her as a sexual “conquest” in the yearbook.

That is an interesting learning curve for a right-wing woman to find herself on.

Bina
Bina
6 years ago

Hugs to all who need them right now. And all the big cats in all the boxes. Kitties are kitties, no matter what size.

In a world which is otherwise fucked-up, I take comfort in the kittiness of them.

Scildfreja Unnyðnes
Scildfreja Unnyðnes
6 years ago

You absolutely do deserve your anger, every drop of it. My only reason for the post was the help you if it was overwhelming you. Go breathe some fire on those motherfuckers! I’m the last person in the world to want to stop you.

Bananananana dakry: Short-Haired, Fat, and Deranged
Bananananana dakry: Short-Haired, Fat, and Deranged
6 years ago

@Scildfreja

Thank you. No, it’s more all the shit from recent that was overwhelming me. Typing that last sentence in my prior post was… oddly freeing, and draining, in a “I just bawled my eyes out for two hours” kind of way.

Not supposed to take ’em during the day, but the Xanax and sleeping until midafternoon does seem to have helped a bit with a mental reset. I’m feeling calmer now.

It all still sucks, though. Except for Mr. Dakry. And our new rescue kitty, who after four months is still timid about pets and sudden movements but now thinks I’m keen enough to mew at, baff three feet away from my computer chair, and show off massive amounts of white kittybelly while having rollypollies.

Scildfreja Unnyðnes
Scildfreja Unnyðnes
6 years ago

Sometimes a good cry is *exactly* what’s needed. It’s great for closure. And what you said is absolutely true. You’ve got a right to all of your feelings, whatever they are.

Your kitty sound absolutely adorable. (I mean, they are all adorable but they sound especially adorable)

Bananananana dakry: Short-Haired, Fat, and Deranged
Bananananana dakry: Short-Haired, Fat, and Deranged
6 years ago

@Scildfreja

Actually I didn’t cry, though I’ve had the stress headache and lead ball of grief in stomach. I still need to work through that.

But just being able to type I have a right to be angry, with force… it’s like something tight snapped free in me. A big “whew”. I seem to have internalized some half-ass idea that I should denigrate and minimize myself along the way. People have noted my self-depreciating humor, but haven’t realized the source of it. I think I got fed up with myself.

Who knows, maybe stepmom posthumously did something. *wry grin*

And the kitty is ludicrously adorable and has the cutest damn tiny mews ever. She’s a little snowshoe that barely dodged the bullet in a high-kill shelter due to ringworm before the rescue pulled her and was pretty traumatized by it all, so no wonder she has baggage. It’s wonderful she’s opened up enough and learned to like us enough to put that much trust in her body language. Hopefully soon we can get more pettings than just the occasional nose boop and face mash. We have taken to calling her the Ice Cream Beast because god help me her coloring reminds me of a hot fudge sundae. 😀

As I write she’s now three feet away from my computer chair, balled up and dozing. She only comes over and does this when I’m sitting here. It feels… pretty darn awesome. 🙂

littlem
littlem
6 years ago

First, Dave, you were & have been ahead of the curve

https://twitter.com/SRuhle/status/1045704064451989505

@weirwoodtreehugger

What is it about Kavanaugh that the right are so desperate to confirm. I mean, rich white conservative judges are pretty a dime a dozen. What’s so special about this guy that they’re finding guys who inexplicably are admitting to a crime in order to protect him?
This whole thing is just so weird. Are the Kochs or Putin/Russian oligarchs paying a ridiculous amount of money for this SCOTUS seat or something?

The short answer there is, I’d venture, yes.

In addition to the multiple reasons others have mentioned (I’m late to the thread as I’ve been both monitoring and writing threads about these shambolic hearings), I don’t think it’s been determined who or what entity paid that huge gambling debt he’d accrued prior to his interviews – judicial nominees are not supposed to be carrying significant debt prior to nomination to a higher seat, especially if it’s gambling debt, FFS – but I think we can make an educated guess.

But with Kompromat like that, they then have a SCOTUS nominee they can control, which could lead to plenty of 5-4 decisions by which they could shape US law in their favor (unless and until we impeach him, as Senator Whitehouse said he would be carrying that investigation forward to its completion regardless of the ultimate outcome of the Senate hearings).

Which is a sufficiently chilling thought that I’m only going to mention it once, as I don’t even want to think about it.

kat
kat
6 years ago

I suspect one or more of his friends were the actual culprits and he witnessed it and said nothing(which still makes him look bad imo). then over time, Ford forgotten most of the details and mistakenly thought it was him or something. but still kavanaugh isn’t fit for supreme court