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By David Futrelle
This guy is an ass, man.
Damn these women and their uppity butts!
Can’t we just go back to the good old days in which men could just go around slapping all the asses they wanted to slap and the women attached to these asses would just giggle and flutter their eyes. Because that was a totally real thing.
But now “identity politics” has gone and ruined this innocent male pleasure, what with women insisting on bodily autonomy and so forth. Because everyone knows that identifying as a person who has the right to control what other people do to their body is the WORST kind of identity politics of all.
I would add more, but as you can see from that tweet’s amazing ratio, plenty of other people have already said plenty to this ass-slapping enthusiast.
Here’s the best rebuttal to non-consensual ass-grabbers that I’ve seen so far.
Yes, that’s the one. This is definitely a prime example of Lewis’ Law.
What kind of person would see a post saying that for a feminist in 2018 so much of what you encounter is both “are you fucking kidding”-worthy and depressingly unsurprising, and think that some outrageous and unsubstantiated misogyny will definitely be the suitable counterpoint to that view? Does he not see that he’s the one that looks bad in that scenario?
@WWTH
Amusingly enough, my mom’s Trumpanzee neighbor is voting for Beto precisely because of this reason. Not necessarily a legitimate reason, but meh, we’ll take it.
I mean he kinda admitted to sexually battering women at his workplace. Also strong boundaries at work has nothing to do with identity. My manager when I worked at wal-mart liked to do ‘football’ butt slaps. They’re not funny or cute.
Hey scared dude,
Boo!
Ha ha ha
Maybe he’s aiming to be Trump’s next nominee for the Supreme Court? That’s the only reason I can think of why someone would post something that stupid.
@Alexisagirlsname:
Self-reflection tends not to be a characteristic of this sort of person.
@Moon_custafer:
“Non-political” is right-wing, because it (at least tacitly) supports the status quo.
Yep.
This is my vote for a legit tweet of the day (or thread, really) https://twitter.com/lyzl/status/1044702812616216577
@amaror
IKR? By that logic, he shouldn’t leave the house without his jockstrap. Otherwise he’s “asking for” a kick in the nuts from random strangers.
Complete and utter BS.
Huh. It’s weird – I heard someone make that same argument on Sunday. I was at an art show and this woman said something like, “We should criticize Kavanaugh for his politics, not because he groped some girl at a high school party. It’s so puritanical,” and then she was saying stuff about the left getting as bad as the right with “identity politics.”
Friend of a friend, not someone I know well – I wasn’t going to jump into the conversation to argue – but the issue is consent! It wasn’t about tsk-ing at teenagers for sexy fun times! “Puritanical” has nothing to do with it. “Identity politics” even less.
So I don’t know why she’d say that. She’s not a right-winger. Probably it’s true that people are more likely to censure the behaviour of their political opponents than their political allies. That much is consistent with human nature. But the rest is nonsense. The right’s “identity politics” = mainly racism, far as I can tell, while the things they call the “identity politics” of the left are about respecting people and their bodily autonomy, things that are only fair.
Rant over 🙂
Well, I didn’t put the stupid little bastard on the floor.
I was about 20, and I had nice big boobs (still do, but they no longer draw the creeps), and I was working in a little mom and pop German restaurant with really good food. One time a frequent customer, a known friend of the owner, patted my butt as I walked by. I hit him on the head with the tray I was carrying. Hard enough for him to say, “Ow.”
I went to the owner and told him what happened, and he said, “Good for you.”
Why yes, I do remember that with glee. Why do you ask?
Does anyone remember, sometime in recent years, one or another political figures talking about how the left’s problem is that they’re obsessed with consent, that they’re under the ridiculous misapprehension an action is good or bad depending on whether or not its participants consented to it?
I can’t remember who said it, but I often recall it as so well representing the conservative worldview. They think it’s right and fitting that a young man should be making sexual conquests, so they don’t care whether or not the women involved consented. Conversely, a young woman should be remaining chaste and pure, so they still don’t care about whether or not she consented.
@Diptych,
Yah, I remember that soundbite. Mighta been Rush. Sounds about like him. Yes, the left is obsessed with consent. It is the essence of agency and self-determination, ie, personal freedom. You’d think the supposed conservatives would be all over that. But of course, such conservatives aren’t really interested in freedom as a concept, just freedom from consequences for the right sort of people (wink, wink). ‘Cause they’re really interested in control while calling it freedom. Damn, total newspeak.
@FreddyMurphy
My favorite response to this is saying that they have a very punchable face and they really ought to cover it, otherwise they’re just asking to be hit. Of course it’s pointless to say that, because it won’t lead to any form of self-analysis. The thightness of the pants is just an excuse.
@Ikeke35
Regarding the misuse of the term identity politics (I was just talking about something similar with my father), I think people choose a political or sociological term, completely ignore its definition(s), and use it to classsify things as “good” or “bad”. If they don’t like the idea of something they can just say it’s “identity politcs”, or “feminism”, or “cultural marxism”, or “postmodernism” or whatever to allude to this thing’s supposed badness.
Idk if people actively work to deconstruct these terms, or if it’s like that whispering telephone game, though.
@epitome of incomprehensibility
The thing is, I could sort of buy the “It was back when he was a teenager” argument (well, not buy it, but understand why people might make it) if Kavanaugh admitted he’d done something inappropriate when he was young, but has become all better since, as evidenced by all the good things he’s done for women since (i.e., all the ones he keeps yammering on about). Or if, while still denying it, he openly stated that even drunk teenagers shouldn’t grope women, let alone try to undress them. And that you shouldn’t wave your dick in people’s faces. Or in some other way acknowledged that the things he insists didn’t happen are bad things.
I mean, I don’t think it would make him a good candidate for the Supreme Court. And it wouldn’t excuse the “Make sure any women who are going to be working in my office are hot” thing. But it would make the “he was a teen” argument slightly more understandable.
Let me ask this Dan Tucker
Why the fuck are you grabbing butts?
Like grab your own ass where no one can see you if you want booty you little pervert
Also my grandmother slapped the hell out of her boss in the 50s for pulling that shit so the giggling thing is not accurate at all
@FelineFinethePunLioness
That’s not the way it went down in Dan Tucker’s imagination. Please don’t harsh this poor guy’s buzz. Hasn’t he suffered enough!
Yeah, like said above, right-wingers aren’t concerned about consent. For them, there is “proper” sex- i.e. Intercourse between a heterosexual married cisgender couple for the purposes of procreation, and there is “degenerate” sex- i.e. Non-cishet sex, premarital sex, extramarital sex, (non-marital) rape, bestiality, pedophilia, and anything else that isn’t “proper” sex. It’s why they equate gay marriage with people marrying their dogs and why they assume non-cishet people are automatically pedophiles, because to them all forms of degenerate sex are equivalent, and if someone engages in one, they’re likely to engage in the rest. (Especially if they will never ever have “proper” sex and thus be rendered “normal”. “Proper” sex or the potential to have “proper” sex is considered to be evidence of contrition/redemption for prior “degenerate” sex acts, and therefore cishet people, particularly male white cishet people, are given a much larger pass for “degeneracy” than anyone else. How convenient that aligns directly with the axis of privilege, right?)
It’s why the right-wingers think that leftists are being hypocritical and “going too far” when we persecute rapists/molestors but support gay people and trans people and poly people and casual consensual sex.
@Catalpa – True! As for the person I mentioned yesterday, she probably doesn’t have this Christian conservative viewpoint, given her use of “puritanical”… but maybe it’s an ill-informed reaction against it? Same result, though, lumping in bad behaviour with sexual freedom.
I’m also suspicious of her use of “identity politics” as it can be a dogwhistle for anti-trans views. Maybe I’m reading too much into things. But many liberals or (supposed) feminists are anti-trans. And she seems to be a libertarian sort of centrist person, not that I can tell from just one conversation. I’m probably thinking too much about this. I don’t want to judge people for just their politics, but I think everyone has a responsibility to try to be as fair to others as possible.
(Thinks: Is that too much to ask? …Apparently.)
@Rabid Rabbit – Definitely. I’m not up to the moment on U.S. politics, but I don’t see him doing anything to give people a better view of him.
@Catalpa:
See also ‘A Tale of Two Boxes’ at Love, Joy, Feminism:
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/lovejoyfeminism/2012/08/a-tale-of-two-boxes-contrastin-sexual-ethics.html
This creep is of the same caliber as the creepy weirdo reviewing some awful film on Amazon who said that “a rape scene can be extremely erotic.” I hope I don’t meet either of them. If I do, their trouser marbles will be likely to meet my knee, should either of them try to touch me.
Well, times have changed and women will no longer stay silent. For generations women have been forced into staying silent or brainwashed into beleiving that a man, has the right to touch a woman because he is a man!! So, to Tucker, we are taking our bodily autonomy back and calling out the sleazy men for their inappropriate behavior.
Calling this identity politics is far from the truth. It is a take back the years, months, weeks, days and nights movement.
#metoo