By David Futrelle
You might think that Labor Day would be the MGTOWs’ time to shine. What better day for American MGTOWs, at least, to indulge themselves in the glorious freedom they have allegedly won for themselves by “going their own way” and walking away from women.
Surely the Men Going Their Own Way subreddit will be filled today with men talking excitedly about the happy hours they spent today fishing by themselves, or riding their motorcycles, or even playing video games. Surely the subreddit will be filled with pictures of the delicious steaks they’ve cooked for themselves on their $3000 grills.
Not so much. Taking a look at the MGTOW subreddit today, I found one guy who had posted some lovely photos from his outdoors excursions roaming the badlands and kayaking in some unidentified but very pretty lake.
But the rest of Reddit’s MGTOW crew spent today doing what they do every day, complaining bitterly about women. Here are a few of the things that have been occupying their busy little minds this Labor Day.
Women having sex
A dude called Zombocom1911 laments what he sees as an unfair double standard that he apparently thinks is an actual real thing in the world:
its somehow a normal accepted notion of society that a female should have far more sexual experience than a male before marriage. everyone is a cuckold in modern society,
Women dyeing their hair
According to someone calling himself NoThirst (yeah, I’m not buying it either). women are fickle creatures when it comes to hair color:
…if they have black hair, then want blond…if they have blond hair, they want black, if they are ugly they want blue. They have no idea what the hell they want, other than your resources.
Women using high-waisted leggings to hide their “muffin tops”
A man with the not-altogether-convincing username strongandhappy sniffs:
Why improve yourself when your clothes can do it for you? Once Chad has an erection he won’t carehow fat you are.
Child support
As slacktivist0 sees it,
It’s only called child support for marketing. It’s mom support plain and simple. Thousands of single women pay to inseminate themselves each year. Women have “baby fever”. Paying women to keep kids both her and her ex wanted is like paying men to have sex with attractive women.
Women who don’t properly appreciate getting pointers on their handjob technique
Apparently this is a big problem in the life of guy called Pk_s_to_the_yizzle.
The problem for me isn’t that they suck at it.
But that they ARE DEATHLY RESISTANT to ANY AND ALL change or instruction IN ORDER TO GET BETTER AT IT.
They all believe “I know how to get guys off” , and “WHATEVER I DO should just work”
I mean WOMEN CAN TILL FIND A WAY TO BE SELF CENTERED WHILE HANDLING YOUR DICK!
Like if they give pleasure to a man THE WAY HE WANTS IT, and they are willing to do something OUTSIDE OF THEIR HABIT-PATTERN for more than 5 seconds, they have to pay a $1,000,000 fine to the female collective.
Show a girl your “sweet spot” (the one you use to get yourself OFF in 2 mins)
She’ll Try it, half-assedly for three strokes, then over the next 6 strokes she’ll SLOWLY gravitate back to the shit she was doing.
By stroke 10 its like you didn’t say anything all. ANND its RIGHT BACK to the shit that’s got you considering WALKING OUT on a HANDJOB.
And so, not trying to talk yourself OUT of a HJ. You hide your Bored and Annoyed Face deep inside
A man wearing a novelty shirt reading “I do whatever the voices in my wife’s head tell me to do”
lnot offers up this little rant:
Sometimes ignorance is bliss. There are way more men who have just excepted it [sic] as the way life is than there are MGTOW, or men who know anything about the true nature of woman. They just happily plod along working their lives away, completely oblivious. Just like in the matrix, they have taken the blue pill and are happy with it. … Even though we see how totally fucked their lives are, they don’t, and probably don’t want to. Especially if they are older, who the fuck would want to find out that late in life that you threw your life away? They probably know deep down inside, but there is no point in us rubbing it in.
… and then there’s THIS dude
In a thread devoted to complaining about women who are insufficiently thrilled when men try to chat them up in public, one young dude calling himself JKMonk97 works himself into an apocalyptic rage:
I’m barely 20, but I’ve dealt with shit like this ever since Middle school. Its only going to get worse and people who do shit like this are completely obviously to the damage they are inflicting on others with their toxicity. Its really unsurprising why I became aligned with the MGTOW ideology and why it has seen exponential growth in just a small time frame.
Society has gone to shit, people are cancer, and the system we live in feeds off negativity and evil. I honestly believe this is the end, not just for this generation, but the entire human collective. …
If we do have a collapse it wont be just a simple reset and then after civilization and ethics begins to propagate freely. No, its either us MGTOW and Men who are aware of the Red-Pill support each other and create a enclave built strongly with our ideals, so that we can finally be liberated and experience the greater reality or we simply go extinct.
The Elites that influence this world have seen their grasp over it slowly diminish over time due to unknown variables and events. History has shown that trying to rule the world always ends in failure and misery. Greed and ignorance has proven to be Humanity’s worse enemy and it is this enemy that will consume the Elites in the end.
We Men built this world and we can also destroy. That’s why nature endowed us with more strength and intelligence compared to women because each and every one of us is a leader/creator with great potential.
I really believe the MGTOW ideology will reach a great mass of men, that they will collectively dissolve themselves from any attachments to the feral women we see today and the gynocentric slave apparatus we live in.
Apparently the logic here is:
- Step 1: Woman says “I have a boyfriend” when approached by a strange man
- Step 2: The literal collapse of civilization
- Step 3: …
- Step 4: PROFIT!
Flawless logic.
Happy Labor Day!
Misogynists think Asian women are submissive and deferential to men. Senator Maisie Hirano just did a fantastic job reading Kavanaugh for filth and proving those misogynists wrong.
@Virgin Mary:
If you scroll down to the Author’s Note on the Teen Ink essay, you might findsome relief; that said, Poe’s Law very much applies.
@Surplus
If you need to print out stupid government forms, libraries generally offer pretty affordable printing services. Alternatively, staples and kinkos and the like also let you print things by the page. Usually it’s like 10 cents a page or something (more for colour). You don’t gotta buy a printer.
Yes, I know it would be so much easier if you could just do it all online, but that’s not an available option yet and we all have to bow to bureaucracy from time to time, unfortunately.
@Virgin Mary
It’s got a note on it that says it’s “satire” for his English class.
That said, If this gets around the school, I bet he has to go to Prom with his cousin.
Completely unrelated, today’s S*P made me laugh: https://somethingpositive.net/sp09032018.shtml
Damn, no edit window. Anyway, it provides a template for the best reaction to a dick photo one can imagine.
Wow wow woah wait !
Is that actually a thing for people with a penis, or just another one of those weird miggy superpowers like Seagull Hunting ?
@Mish:
Everybody’s been talking about Gaiman, but Busiek… well, Busiek’s a long-time regular over at File770 as well, which is one of the places where the whole Sad Puppies mess really got reported on, as well as some of the follow-ons like ComicsGate. Busiek almost certainly falls into the category of ‘has forgotten more comics history than you wannabe gatekeepers will ever know’.
If you’ve got a spot on your penis, see a doctor.
@wwth
I wouldn’t want to gobble that!
😮
I am very much not convinced Handy Bloke has had a woman close enough to his dick to be critiquing her technique. More likely this is something he thought up while hate wanking to a conversation he overheard between a couple of women who were blissfully unaware of his presence
@Sinkable John:
I’d mention the prostate, but I’m pretty sure this guy would reject that option as gay.
Scildfreja Unnyðnes wrote:
This hit right in my gut, Scildfreja. When I first moved to San Francisco in 1987 (with my gf), our jobs were both outside SF. My gf (at that time, now my dear friend) changed her hair color and was beat up for doing so at the North Berkeley BART station. My BART stop was on the other side of the bay (San Leandro) and when I changed from blue to red I was also attacked. It was really weird for both of us. Why do these random men care so much about “our” hair?
I mean…I don’t have a peen but if I’m in the right mood can get it done that fast. But that’s not really about enjoyment, more about getting my brain to shut up already. ?♀️
I don’t see why I should be needing to physically deal with legacy paperwork and snail-mail in a day and age when I can e-file my taxes; that being said, I think this problem might be dealt with now. I was going into town today for other reasons, so I swung by a Service Ontario that was close to one of my stops to see if I could do something about it there in person. They said no — but they had an office building full of printers and volunteered their use. I left with a printed version of the application that could just be filled in and mailed, and there was also a post office nearby. Long story short, it’s in the mail … and the whole thing cost me over five bucks, when by any rights it ought to be free. The postage alone was a buck eighty and the business envelopes were tens of cents each and came in packs of six and more.
Ridiculous. If they’re going to insist on physical paperwork then they should damned well mail me the renewal forms and include a postage-prepaid return envelope for me to stuff everything into when it’s done. If they’re going to have a web site for doing it then it should be possible to do all of it on the web site. This is after all supposed to be assistance for low income citizens. A lot of the eligible population won’t have cars, won’t have printers, and will be budget-strapped enough to begrudge even five bucks, and a fair proportion will be living 20 miles or more from the nearest significant town. There’s a lot of empty space in Ontario, especially north of the nickel belt. For some people in northern Ontario dealing with this would have entailed a hundred-dollar-plus Greyhound ride into Timmins or Thunder Bay if it couldn’t be done either entirely on an iPhone or else entirely by receiving a package in the snail mail, fiddling with it and a pen for ten minutes, and then sticking an envelope in a box at the entrance to their driveway and putting up a little metal flag.
This half-assed part-21st-century part-Victorian-era procedure of theirs is discernibly worse than either a purely modern or a purely 19th century approach.
And if you’re all thoroughly sick of this topic by now, despite its touching on issues of class, big-city, etc. privilege, with any luck it won’t be lurching to life again zombie-like for at least another 365 days or so.
I agree, kupo. I’d go one further. If my brain is in the right space, no touch is even needed. I dislike anyone touching me; this doesn’t stop me from having awesome orgasms.
Boy, these men sure get a lot of handjobs from women while going there own way…
I know it’s mostly just their objectification of women and fixation on sex that makes them believe nudity is a woman’s only “true” and valid appearance. But I have this idea that part of the reason MRAs despise clothes so much because they’re feverishly in denial that clothes are pretty, to suppress that tiny bit of femininity in themselves.
This may have been brought up before, but I wonder how they feel about suits being designed to “fool” women into thinking a man is conventionally attractive. Will they admit that a man putting on a suit jacket is just “pretending” to have broad shoulders?
Yes, and enforcing hair style/color conformity is definitely a part of maintaining white supremacy. Straight, neat, long blonde hair is the beauty standard because of its association with the perfect healthy Nordic or Germanic ideal.
Black women are pressured not to wear their hair in a more natural kinky or afro style. It’s deemed unprofessional in the workplace. It seems like every week I see a story in my Twitter timeline about a black child sent home from school for wearing braids or cornrows or afropuffs.
Even white women and girls can be swept up in it. When Michelle Wolf was getting scolded across conservative and mainstream media for her WH correspondents dinner roast, a lot of people were asking if she was black or biracial because her hair is so curly. My hair is wavy, not kinky and is prone to tangles. When I was a kid some other kids teased me by calling it “nappy.” It wasn’t until a few years later that I even realized that was a derogatory way to describe black hair. I thought it was a synonym for messy.
If a white woman’s hair isn’t straight and neat enough, she is suspect. She might be part Jewish or black. Gasp!
I’m starting to ramble now, but tl;dr, I don’t think it’s a coincidence that manospherians and Nazis are similarly obsessed with policing women’s hair and both fetishize long straight blonde hair.
Dear Surplus,
I have been reading Dave Futrelle’s ManBoobz We Hunted The Mammoth for many years. I have seen your complaints on many different posts and I think you have a case of “women should be caring about your shit” which has been brought up before. I don’t know why you keep doing it.
Okay, let’s talk about my complaints. I am a lesbian who moved to Russia to be with my gf. I have to, every year, have a (not private!) gynecological exam, a fluoroscopy (I had to undress and smash my tits against an ancient screen in a huge room with about 20 other people), pee in a cup with 20 other people (communism lives!) and have my guts poked at. I have to wait in lines for eight or nine hours and then be sent home (and cancel all my lessons for one day and then cancel all my lessons for the next). My lessons are how I make my money.
I had to know absolutely everything about Russian history (my obsession, so no problem) and Russian government and Russian grammar (the hardest part!) to even get my Russian residency to be with the love of my life. I have to do this every year!
My point is Everyone’s life is HARD! When you’re not a millionaire, it’s all fucking hard. So suck it up, put your big boy pants on and do it.
I see great advice to you all over this forum and great patience. Heed it.
@WWTH, Re: leggings
It’s because “fat”, according to society, includes having even 2mm of tiny bulge around your waist when wearing jeans 5 sizes too small. It’s why Lady Gaga (I think, perhaps someone else?) got shamed for a friggin insignificant amount of tummy bulge while wearing super tight pants during a concert, it’s why there are thousand-upvoted threads of bodybuilders with visible 6-packs who feel insecure because they have teeny tiny stomach rolls when they sit or bend over in half and actually think that’s unhealthy.
Which is one of the reasons body positivity is good for athletic people too.
Goddammit, my strikethrough didn’t work. Shame. 🙁
Omg!
Or, as has been pointed out on this blog many times before, high heels were originally designed for and worn by men. Then there’s cowboy boots. Don’t even get me started on codpieces. Clearly men are deceptive and vain creatures!
Jesalin: Clit-o-centric Lesbian Goddess
“Omg!”
I’m curious what that means.
All orgasms are in your brain. Turned on, orgasm. Turned off, nope. No touch needed, really.