By David Futrelle
You might think that Labor Day would be the MGTOWs’ time to shine. What better day for American MGTOWs, at least, to indulge themselves in the glorious freedom they have allegedly won for themselves by “going their own way” and walking away from women.
Surely the Men Going Their Own Way subreddit will be filled today with men talking excitedly about the happy hours they spent today fishing by themselves, or riding their motorcycles, or even playing video games. Surely the subreddit will be filled with pictures of the delicious steaks they’ve cooked for themselves on their $3000 grills.
Not so much. Taking a look at the MGTOW subreddit today, I found one guy who had posted some lovely photos from his outdoors excursions roaming the badlands and kayaking in some unidentified but very pretty lake.
But the rest of Reddit’s MGTOW crew spent today doing what they do every day, complaining bitterly about women. Here are a few of the things that have been occupying their busy little minds this Labor Day.
Women having sex
A dude called Zombocom1911 laments what he sees as an unfair double standard that he apparently thinks is an actual real thing in the world:
its somehow a normal accepted notion of society that a female should have far more sexual experience than a male before marriage. everyone is a cuckold in modern society,
Women dyeing their hair
According to someone calling himself NoThirst (yeah, I’m not buying it either). women are fickle creatures when it comes to hair color:
…if they have black hair, then want blond…if they have blond hair, they want black, if they are ugly they want blue. They have no idea what the hell they want, other than your resources.
Women using high-waisted leggings to hide their “muffin tops”
A man with the not-altogether-convincing username strongandhappy sniffs:
Why improve yourself when your clothes can do it for you? Once Chad has an erection he won’t carehow fat you are.
Child support
As slacktivist0 sees it,
It’s only called child support for marketing. It’s mom support plain and simple. Thousands of single women pay to inseminate themselves each year. Women have “baby fever”. Paying women to keep kids both her and her ex wanted is like paying men to have sex with attractive women.
Women who don’t properly appreciate getting pointers on their handjob technique
Apparently this is a big problem in the life of guy called Pk_s_to_the_yizzle.
The problem for me isn’t that they suck at it.
But that they ARE DEATHLY RESISTANT to ANY AND ALL change or instruction IN ORDER TO GET BETTER AT IT.
They all believe “I know how to get guys off” , and “WHATEVER I DO should just work”
I mean WOMEN CAN TILL FIND A WAY TO BE SELF CENTERED WHILE HANDLING YOUR DICK!
Like if they give pleasure to a man THE WAY HE WANTS IT, and they are willing to do something OUTSIDE OF THEIR HABIT-PATTERN for more than 5 seconds, they have to pay a $1,000,000 fine to the female collective.
Show a girl your “sweet spot” (the one you use to get yourself OFF in 2 mins)
She’ll Try it, half-assedly for three strokes, then over the next 6 strokes she’ll SLOWLY gravitate back to the shit she was doing.
By stroke 10 its like you didn’t say anything all. ANND its RIGHT BACK to the shit that’s got you considering WALKING OUT on a HANDJOB.
And so, not trying to talk yourself OUT of a HJ. You hide your Bored and Annoyed Face deep inside
A man wearing a novelty shirt reading “I do whatever the voices in my wife’s head tell me to do”
lnot offers up this little rant:
Sometimes ignorance is bliss. There are way more men who have just excepted it [sic] as the way life is than there are MGTOW, or men who know anything about the true nature of woman. They just happily plod along working their lives away, completely oblivious. Just like in the matrix, they have taken the blue pill and are happy with it. … Even though we see how totally fucked their lives are, they don’t, and probably don’t want to. Especially if they are older, who the fuck would want to find out that late in life that you threw your life away? They probably know deep down inside, but there is no point in us rubbing it in.
… and then there’s THIS dude
In a thread devoted to complaining about women who are insufficiently thrilled when men try to chat them up in public, one young dude calling himself JKMonk97 works himself into an apocalyptic rage:
I’m barely 20, but I’ve dealt with shit like this ever since Middle school. Its only going to get worse and people who do shit like this are completely obviously to the damage they are inflicting on others with their toxicity. Its really unsurprising why I became aligned with the MGTOW ideology and why it has seen exponential growth in just a small time frame.
Society has gone to shit, people are cancer, and the system we live in feeds off negativity and evil. I honestly believe this is the end, not just for this generation, but the entire human collective. …
If we do have a collapse it wont be just a simple reset and then after civilization and ethics begins to propagate freely. No, its either us MGTOW and Men who are aware of the Red-Pill support each other and create a enclave built strongly with our ideals, so that we can finally be liberated and experience the greater reality or we simply go extinct.
The Elites that influence this world have seen their grasp over it slowly diminish over time due to unknown variables and events. History has shown that trying to rule the world always ends in failure and misery. Greed and ignorance has proven to be Humanity’s worse enemy and it is this enemy that will consume the Elites in the end.
We Men built this world and we can also destroy. That’s why nature endowed us with more strength and intelligence compared to women because each and every one of us is a leader/creator with great potential.
I really believe the MGTOW ideology will reach a great mass of men, that they will collectively dissolve themselves from any attachments to the feral women we see today and the gynocentric slave apparatus we live in.
Apparently the logic here is:
- Step 1: Woman says “I have a boyfriend” when approached by a strange man
- Step 2: The literal collapse of civilization
- Step 3: …
- Step 4: PROFIT!
Flawless logic.
Happy Labor Day!
I kinda resent the fact that I-don’t-wanna-support-my-kids Guy is using the handle Slacktivist, a word I normally associate with pro-feminist Christian blogger and all-around good guy Fred Clark.
It is? Where? Because from where I sit, even women with little to no sexual experience STILL get slut-shamed. For essentially nothing, unless you count the fact that they’re women.
CITATION BADLY NEEDED
I have red hair, the same as I was born with. I’ve tried dyeing it, but it won’t take. I’m not even going near bleach, since the damage I sustained two dozen years ago trying to have mine chemically straightened. The best thing I can do with my auburn curls is condition them, trim them regularly, and love them for what they are.
Of course, this shithead would probably still criticize me for that, because feeeeeemale.
Oh, dude, don’t flatter yourself. Nobody wants your “resources” when they can have their own. And in fact, we’d prefer to have our own, just so we don’t have to put up with asswipes like you whining about everything we do, say, eat, drink, and wear.
Let’s get a few things clear here: We’re not dressing for “Chad” and his stupid boner, or you and your sad one. We’re dressing for US, and we don’t give a shit what you think of it.
Oh sure, because children don’t need food, clothing or shelter. And “baby fever” is only a thing if your doctor didn’t wash their hands before delivering yours.
As for that last sentence, it’s too dumb to even bother to deconstruct. I’m just gonna leave it sitting there like the useless turd it is.
Really? Oh my. Where is this “female collective” located, and how do I sign up for my unfair share of that sweet, sweet handjob cash??? Because I haven’t whacked off a man since…well, EVER, actually. I figure that if he wants a handie, he can take care of that himself.
In other words, men can always find a way to be self-centred, particularly while complaining about how we (don’t) handle their dicks.
Yawwwwn. Yet another lovely misinterpretation of a movie written by two then-closeted trans sisters. Boooooooring.
I’m 51, and I don’t care what you’ve “dealt with”, you junior-grade punk. And if it keeps getting “worse” for you, GOOD. You’re an egotistical asswipe, and no one is obligated to bend themselves out of shape to conform to the world as you want it to be. The only actual true thing you’ve said is that “the system we live in feeds off negativity and evil”, and that’s a perfect description of the whole migtoe ideology. Yes, please do close yourselves off from women and stay there. At least then, your shit won’t have any new generations to spread to like the cancer it is. As long as you stay stuck in that mode, you’re gonna just lie there and rot, and I’m gonna point and laugh.
Sucks to be you, bubba.
These guys make it fun to destroy western civilization! I’m gonna run feral, with a spring in my middle-aged, frumped-out step!
Childless by choice!
If I wanted to hear the pitter patter of little feet, I’d put shoes on my cats!
I don’t understand why that woman doesn’t listen to the guy telling her how to give a handjob. You’d think she’d be delighted to find a way to get it over with in two minutes.
Maybe he gets pissed off and leaves in under one? I’d call that a win.
Tranlation; we either build a society free from women, or die out!
…..
Someone failed biology. And hasn’t read Watership Down.
@Tosca, Chaos made Flesh, Servant of the Purring Jew
They could try to create a cloning machine of only men, but the chances of them making one is about as likely as MGTOW actually going their own way.
I mean, this bit is probably true, but if you and Chad are both enjoying yourselves then how is it a problem?
@Moon Custafer
That’s what I was wondering. If Chad and Stacey are happy, who the fuck cares?
Every MGTOW on Earth, apparently.
What does strongandhappy think leggings are made of? Does he think there’s boning in them or something? Even if they’re slimming (and they usually aren’t ime), they aren’t going to make someone look like they have a completely different body type than they do. I mean, people usually wear leggings because they’re comfortable. Not because they’re like a girdle, a corset or Spanx. What a weird clothing item to get upset about.
I’m really confused by how MGTOWs seem to think that makeup and clothing have magical powers.
Of course, if a woman doesn’t shave her body hair and doesn’t do anything with her hair and wears only sweats, they get mad about that too because it doesn’t please the boner.
@WWTH:
I bet he complains about “land whales” wearing spandex, too.
I gotta say that I would have loved feedback from my ex. I pretty much begged him to tell me what would please him more, and he would just lie there and either say nothing, or tell me I was fine (faint praise, much?). It was so frustrating. And resulted in a moratorium on sex as it slowly became more dysfunctional. Turns out bad sex really is worse than no sex.
I’m pretty happy with no sex and being single at this point. I’m happily going my way and done with men (in terms of dating/sex, not friendship). But it’s not like I’m creating a hate group over it, or whining endlessly about it, or saying men are less than human.
Just, I am done trying to do all the work in the relationship. Done relationshipping. And busy with a very full life and not able to do half the fun things I’d love to or spend time with half the people I miss or visit half the places I love or discover half the new adventures I dream about.
And on this Labor Day: thanks, David, for the labor you do here. You’re a better person than me. More patient. Funnier. Dedicated. Hardworking. Long suffering. I hope you get lots of detox fun things to counterbalance all the sewage you distill for edutainment purposes.
@solecism
I feel this big time! I had the same problem. Personally, when I got no/unenthusiastic response I would just worry constantly that he was judging my performance but not saying anything.
However, I feel like getting feedback from this (or any) MGTOW would be utterly terrible. I just picture him standing there berating some poor woman who, let’s be honest, is doing all the work (unless he’s reciprocating, which I highly doubt). I feel like a misogynists’ psychology would start to fuck up the vibe in any sexual relationship. He might hate her because she used a different technique on another partner which he resents her ever having. When anything a woman does translates to women=garbage, what HJ in the entire world will change that kind of thinking?
MGTOWS care because:
1.) This means Stacey is not sleeping with them.
2.) Chad is supposedly making Uglies/Fatties thirst for his cock which makes the Uglies/fatties also not sleep with them. (I think, maybe that’s more of an incel thing?)
3.) Something, something, western society collapses?
@wwth
This one comes up a lot – enough that it seems to be a widespread misunderstanding – and it’s just baffling. Surely even a brief glance at a pair of leggings would make it obvious that they’re not shapewear? But I guess perceiving and understanding the world is considered unmanly by these types.
Probably the silliest thing these silly, silly men (and I use that term very loosely) think (ibid) is that they will thrive if civilization collapses. They really think so.
Oh, I suppose that we all think that a little bit. But I don’t think I might survive because of my innate superiority. I think I might survive because I work well within groups and can grow a mean banana pepper. I can also create useful fabrics out of rags and a bunch of other such stuff.
These guys think they’ll be the king of the world just because they’re guys. Like I said, silly, silly men.
@Otrame:
I can make a shirt starting with a sheep, I can weave baskets and, provided my glasses survive, I can tell the seasons by the stars.
I also work well in groups, can cook on an open fire and make bread.
Its so typical they spend a day where you could be vacationing or sitting on your bum enjoying a ban bomb in your newly cleaned bathtub
Bitching about Women who don’t want to have sex with thwm.
Get some hobbies MGTOW
Also I’m curious on the MGTOW view of other men with blue hair? I have a friend who dyed his blue once or twice so I’m wondering if it sends them into rant mode like blue haired women do
@Knitting Cat Lady
But how many achievements have you unlocked in ‘fallout 4’? That si the true determining factor to surviving the apocalypse.
I mean, yeah, they almost certainly believe they will become the Immortan Joe god-kings of the wasteland (minus the bits where the wives escape and kill him, of course).
But even if they have a more realistic view of things, given the mindset that I’ve seen in the manosphere, I’m willing to bet that the most important thing isn’t that the MGTOW/redpiller/incel thrives, it’s that the Chads/Stacies/normies/women suffer and die. They don’t want to be happy, they just want everyone to be even more miserable than they are.
To be honest, that “voice in my wife’s head” t-shirt sounds awful to me too. Just not for that guy’s reasons – because it’s sexist, in both that “ha ha, women be crazy, amirite?” line of thinking (which of course is also ablist), and in going with the tired old “henpecked husband” trope. And also, it’s just such a boring unoriginal joke. Again, tnat henpecked thing has been around for ages (and it’s never really been funny).
Maybe knowing that feminists hate that shirt will make the MGTOWs like it, I dunno. They’d still be wrong.
This jerk has a woman giving him a handjob, and all he wants is for it to be over in two minutes? Seriously?
@Uly:
Seeing how I’m ace and aro with absolutely no sexual or romantic experience I can’t speak from authority.
But it has always been my impression that lasting longer was something to brag about for men.
And that coming in two minutes is worthy of derision…
To add to the overall enjoyment here, does anyone want to see a couple of ComicsGate guys arguing with Neil Gaiman and Kurt Busiek? It’s really quite something, by which I mean, hilarious.
I didn’t know certain hair dyes were unacceptable to MGTOWs. What’s the deal with blue? I think blue looks nice!
…Does it remind them of their emotional state?