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He drinks a cider drink: Huge weirdo Jordan Peterson says a glass of apple cider kept him awake for a month

Jordan Peterson gets knocked down, and lies there terrified, unsleeping, for a month

By David Futrelle

In addition to being terrible, Canadian fussbudget paleothinker Jordan Peterson is just plain fucking weird, especially when it comes to his diet. You’ve probably heard about his all-meat diet ( The Atlantic goes into great detail about it here).

But have you heard what happens when he drinks apple cider? In the video below, he tells Joe Rogan that when he drank apple cider after going on his all-meat diet it “produced an overwhelming sense of impending doom” and kept him awake for 25 days.

As in, literally no sleep for a month. Which is literally impossible. While one young Frenchman with a rare disorder managed to survive on only a few minutes of sleep a night for several months, no one has ever gone completely without sleep for 25 days in the history of our species; that’s more than twice the world record. Which you’d think that Peterson, as a professor of psychology, would know.

Anyway, the video (below) is only a minute and a half, and it will CHANGE YOUR LIFE.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfoKwQ2Cw6A

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Cat Mara
6 years ago

@Fabe:

Yeah I just read about that on Wil’s blog. apparently what happened was he used a block list to try and keep gamergaters from harassing him on twitter. unknown to him the list was made by a TERF and a lots of transgender people got blocked leading some to believe that Wil is anti-trans.

That TERF being Randi Lee Harper whose abuse at the hands of GamerGate has been documented on this very blog.

I have some sympathy for Harper as a person. Her young daughter’s life was threatened by GamerGate assholes. Her contributions to open source projects were subject to a post-facto scrutiny no man would ever have to undergo because, in the minds of these thugs, she was only allowed contribute to them as a token FEEEEEMALE and not because she was a competent developer ?. And I’ve a lot of sympathy for Wil Wheaton who endured abuse from toxic fandom for years for playing a character they didn’t like and who has spoken frankly about his mental health problems. But my Twitter handle, when I had one, still ended up on that blocklist because apparently my striaght white cis male self was following too many trans accounts. TERF is poison.

kupo
kupo
6 years ago

There might be a bit more to it than Wil is letting on.

https://twitter.com/EIWBM_Cat/status/1035716245914624003?s=19

Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
6 years ago

The Trump regime is effectively stripping Hispanic-Americans of their citizenship.

Passport applicants with U.S. birth certificates are being jailed in detention centers and entered into deportation proceedings. More American citizens have ended up stuck in Mexico after their passports were revoked.

This is how the Holocaust started.

A. Noyd
A. Noyd
6 years ago

Fabe says:

apparently what happened was he used a block list to try and keep gamergaters from harassing him on twitter. unknown to him the list was made by a TERF and a lots of transgender people got blocked leading some to believe that Wil is anti-trans.

From what I’ve heard, it wasn’t just about his own use of the block list. It’s that he successfully promoted the list among a large number of his Hollywood pals, effectively shutting a door on a vulnerable population. And then he did very little to try to fix the issue once he was told what he’d done.

Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
6 years ago

This may be of interest on the front of POC mistreatment by the “justice” system:

https://denverite.com/2018/08/22/anti-jail-activist-elisabeth-epps-is-going-to-jail/

Cheerful Warthog
Cheerful Warthog
6 years ago

I’m really stuck on the double-dactyl poem form recently.

Decapod wreckerpod
Jordan B Peterson
Cannot be judged lest you’ve
Mastered his work.

Order is masculine!
Ladies are dragon spawn!
Hierarchicality!
He’s quite a jerk.

Full Metal Ox
6 years ago

@Cheerful Warthog:

You do realize that your verse about Petersen scans to the tune of “The Irish Washerwoman.”

Cheerful Warthog
Cheerful Warthog
6 years ago

Full Metal Ox: I do now!

Which I presume would mean that all double-dactyls can be read during an energetic jig. Like how even the most serious iambic tetrameter can be performed to the theme of The Love Boat.

epitome of incomprehensibility

@Cheerful Warthog, that’s hilarious 😀

Sorry for having weird reactions to things earlier. I’m okay. And considering friends/family members, really lucky not to be prone to depression. Anxiety, though, is another issue…

Oh yes. Auditory hallucinations from being tired. My brain is good at making one thing sound like another thing. Once, after staying up most of the night to finish an essay, I went into a bathroom with a rattling ceiling fan and I could’ve sworn I heard a four-part Bach vocal fugue instead of a ceiling fan. I heard distinct soprano and alto parts, at least. 😛

THAT was amusing, but I’m not a fan of other effects of tiredness like grumpiness, anxiety, lack of focus, making stupid mistakes, etc.

Bakunin
Bakunin
6 years ago

@Cheerful Warthog
Another fun meter fact is that the theme to Gilligan’s Island is written in ballad meter. Which means that Emily Dickinson’s poem The Carriage can be sung to the theme song.

Shadowplay
6 years ago

@epitome

Yeah, they can be amusing. It makes life interesting when you’re exhausted but can’t go to sleep though.

Sheila Crosby
6 years ago

@Red R. Lion
In the UK, a subset of butch lesbians have been hijacking the front of a Pride parade handing out TERF leaflets, saying lesbians should leave LGBT (“Get the L out!”) and yelling that transwomen erase them. I think the “argument” is that people confuse butch grls with trans girls, butch girls exist, therefore trans girls should pretend they don’t. At least I think that was the argument. I’ve seen an article by one lesbian TERF about this “erasure” quoting an “evil” article that said that gender expression and gender identification are two different things. To me, the logical conclusion is that both butch lesbians and transwomen exist and are valid, i.e. the exact opposite of erasure.

It reminds me a bit of someone I once met who a) had a phobia for spiders and b) thought they had 10 legs. After a while I realised that this makes sense. Given the phobia, she was hardly likely to lean over one to count its legs, was she?

A lot of TERFs seem rather like that to me. Too busy panicking to notice how mistaken they are. I’d be sympathetic if they weren’t doing so much damage.

Virgin Mary
Virgin Mary
6 years ago

When I was as a fresher at University and rather naive, I had a night out drinking Jack Daniels and ended up smoking crack which kept me awake for about 3 days. It was funny because I didn’t do drugs and had never even smoked weed, so it’s crazy I even tried crack as a first foray into drugs.

Moon Custafer
6 years ago

@Bakunin:

Or to “The Yellow Rose of Texas.”

Robert
Robert
6 years ago

Decades ago, my eldest brother (a college English student) let me know that Frost’s “Stopping By Woods On a Snowy Evening” could be recited to the tune of “Hernando’s Hideaway”.

Epitome – that’s like the auditory equivalent of pareidolia. I’ve experienced it myself.

Cheerful Warthog – very nice indeed! Double dactylic is a lively meter.

Ghost Robot
Ghost Robot
6 years ago

I think Lemmy from Motorhead was known for a diet that only consisted of meat, whisky and speed. That’s neither here nor there really, just something I wanted to add to this conversation.

Valentin - Emigrantski Ragamuffin
Valentin - Emigrantski Ragamuffin
6 years ago

Lemmy lived for a long time, at least with that diet but he died from agressive cancer.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee
weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee
6 years ago

Didn’t the creator of the Atkins diet die from a heart attack?

Diptych
Diptych
6 years ago

According to Wikipedia, he had a history of heart issues, but died of complications following surgery for a head injury.

As for the original topic… “sense of impending doom” is a legit symptom – I’ve seen it referred to as a sign of a heart attack, actually – but having that plus insomnia for a month really should have prompted a visit to the doctor, not a podcast.

And speaking of doctors, Peterson might have earned a doctorate, but that’s no indication of continuing intellectual rigour or good character. After all, it’s a level of achievement that most negligent, abusive and/or just plain bad medicos and academics have also earned.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
6 years ago

Didn’t the creator of the Atkins diet die from a heart attack?

I believe he did; although almost by definition that’s a common cause of death.

He didn’t really create anything though. The Atkins diet is identical to the ‘cutting’ diets used by old timey bodybuilders in the days before supplements and really bulking up.

They only did it in the run up to competition though; to induce partial ketosis. When they were actually training they also ate loads of carbs for energy.

Full Metal Ox
6 years ago

@Alan Robertshaw:

One iteration of the low-carb approach to weight loss can be found as early as the 1820’s, in no less than that gastronomic Bible, Brillat-Savarin’s The Physiology of Taste.

Katamount
Katamount
6 years ago

Okay, if cider does that to the JeeP, then being Screeched in on George Street might just kill the poor guy.

Anybody got the spare coin to buy him a one-way flight to St. John’s?

Moon_custafer
Moon_custafer
6 years ago

@Full Metal Ox:

See also the Victorian version popularized by one William Banting.

Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
6 years ago

@surplus – Have you tried printing the documents at Staples, or a different copy centre? A page at staples in black and white is 11cents/page, if you don’t need it that day. If you do, it’s 14c/page.

You might also be able to print something at your local library, and that might be cheaper.

Have you called the OESP, and see if there is a way a person can just ‘renew’ you, rather than having to do all of the same rigamarole again?

Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
6 years ago

Called them and they put me through a very long phone menu, where every single time the option I wanted was the very last one they listed, and at the end it just said nobody was there and fucking hung up on me! Obviously they don’t want anyone to call them.

And Staples, copy centers, library, etc. are all multiple-tens-of-minutes walks from here. I want to click a couple of things and have this thing done, not go traipsing all over town (and letting random people see that I’m on some kind of assistance while I’m at it).