By David Futrelle
4Chan has a brand-new imaginary girlfriend, and she might look a little bit familiar to you. “Daisy Hogg” seems designed to win the hearts (and the pants-feelings) of the 4Chan demographic — she’s a young, slender hottie who loves guns, Trump, and owning the libs.
It doesn’t hurt, as far as 4Chan is concerned, that their new girl looks like she’s barely out of high school, if that, and that she enjoys posing in next-to-nothing, sometimes with assorted scary-looking guns as accessories.
The reason Daisy looks so familiar? Because this imaginary girlfriend is nothing more than a gender-swapped version of Parkland survivor and gun control advocate David Hogg, a figure almost universally loathed on the right.
Daisy was born last week after one inventive 4Chan anon thought to run some pictures of David Hogg through FaceApp’s female filter, transforming him instantly into a more-than-passable young woman — and a rather attractive one at that.
Other 4Chan anons went to work at once, photoshopping Daisy’s new face onto the bodies of bikini models, porn stars, and, in one case, Nancy Pelosi. Many anons can’t quite decide whether to mock David as Daisy, or whack off to her. For others. the decision hasn’t been hard, because something else has been.
Some of the anons who aren’t cranking it to Daisy are devoting their energy instead into photoshopping her into 4Chan’s horny, semi-ironic version of a patron saint — and chastising those who are “tainting” her purity with their lusts.Β
Not every anon is quite so agog. This being 4Chan, some have been quick to deride the fascination with David-as-Daisy as “gay” and, ahem, “n***er tier.” Meanwhile, more-paranoid anons are suggesting that the new meme is somehow an elaborate false-flag “psyop” designed to … well, I’m not quite sure what these guys think the memes are supposed to be doing to their poor brains.
So what does it all mean? A few anons have taken a shot at explaining the significance of this new meme. “David Hogg just announced that he intended to run for Congress,” writes one enthusiastic anon.
and now youβve created a character more attractive, more meaningful, and more inspiring than he will ever be..Β
Do you even realize how brilliant you are sometimes? His face is going to end up listed by the ADL as a hate symbol and he will spend the rest of his life seeing his likeness used to promote second amendment rights and right-wing ideologies.Β
You sentenced him to a fate worse than obscurity.. Youβve eclipsed him with a shining star..
And that star is called Daisy-chan
I’m not quite so sure this meme is going to prove quite so potent outside the confines of 4Chan as it has within them. Even 4Channers struggle a bit trying to explain just what exactly this new meme actually means. I mean:
That’s about as close as any 4Chan Daisy-explainer I’ve seen has gotten to a coherent explanation, and it doesn’t make a lick of sense.
I think the meme is a lot more interesting psychologically than it is politically. It seems clear enough that one of the impulses behind this forced feminization of David Hogg is a desire to degrade a young man who many channers clearly see as intimidating. By “reducing” him to a woman, they don’t have to take his ideas as seriously; they can sexualizeΒ him, transforming him into a pliable “waifu” who adores them and parrots their opinions, serving much the same function that the fictional Vivian James did for GamerGate. Even their non-sexual fantasies about her are all about ownership, if not of her body than of her mind.
But the “forced feminization” element makes Daisy more complicated than Vivian ever was. For some, the fact that “Daisy” began as David is part of her appeal. 4Channers have long fetishized trans women — or at least sexy young “traps” — as pseudo-women without all the man-hating baggage of “real” women, happy to offer up their sexuality to nerdy dudes who don’t actually like “real” women all that much. Never mind that this is as much a fantasy as Daisy herself is.
What makes it all stranger is that the conventionally very attractive “Daisy” is clearly out of their league, and the channers know it. They’ve transformed a hated ideological foe into a woman who, if she existed in real life, wouldn’t give them the time of day. Doesn’t this suggest that perhaps David Hogg is a bit out of their league as well? Some anons have tried to suggest that Daisy’s attractiveness isn’t a function of David’s chiseled features and high cheekbones but rather a reflection of his inherent sissy-tude.
I think this is what’s known as “protesting too much.”
Outside of 4Chan, some are suggesting that the fetishization of Daisy is little more than a massive political self-own on the part of thirsty anons, as one widely shared tweet explained it:
https://twitter.com/MichaelEHayden/status/1034453814311563266
True, up to a point. But there is so much other stuff going on that we can’t really reduce it to a self-own. I’m not sure what to call it, exactly. But one thing is clear: it is 2018 as fuck.
NOTE: There have been a number of threads on Daisy over on 4Chan. The quotes and pics in this post all came from the thread archived here. I learned of the existence of Daisy from Hayden’s tweet above.
David Hogg is pretty; no one disputes that: no one could; it’s a fact.
So, their point would be…?
First of all: The female version of David or Dave should be Daphne!
Second: . . .
Seriously?
Like, SERIOUSLY?
It’s not even a funny joke. It’s just dumb.
Speaking as a gender neutral person whom society invariably identifies as a woman, I can tell you that I feel no fear, wariness or distrust around men, although I do think some of them (see OP) are raving idiots. And a few, of course are criminally dangerous. But only a few. Okay, so it’s possible to argue that I don’t feel fear, etc, because I’m not actually a woman. But if there is good reason to fear, it applies to me also, so…?
Sinkable John:
In 2015 I felt my annual quota for US political weirdness was filled in January, with the Malheur refuge occupation. In the beginning of 2016, I decided to not think it in terms of weirdness quota anymore, considering it was an election year and all.
@Sinkable
After the Juggalos stated that they were on our side I kind forgot what βnormalβ was.
@Cyborgette
Sorry about that. I understand what you mean now(and agree). With all the hate online (and off) it’s easy to jump to an uncharitable conclusion when something is kinda ambiguous.
@Surplus to Requirements
I can definitely see trump as a clown from the circus.
Pen – if you don’t feel fear around even the “criminally dangerous” men you mention, your fear feeler is just plain broken, I’d say.
Until they prove I can trust them I always have fear/cautions when I am around men I don’t know. I think it is just sensible. I will not tell my personal reasons but I am sure many people have their own reasons too, for fear and caution around men.
@Jesalin
No problem, your suspicion is completely understandable. And I’ve been lousy at communicating the past few days anyway. Finishing a move, blowing through piles of savings to secure my housing, the heat wave, being on antibiotics for the last week, and unearthing all kinds of trauma I’d not even remembered… it messes with you.
I suppose this is an excuse, but yeah, I’m not functioning at full capacity right now. But I will do better.
If Daisy were real, my money would be on her being another Tortise Lorraine clone, attempting to be famous and grifting money to do it.
Oof! Hopefully everything settles down (and cools off) soon so you can relax!
Oops, just noticed the reference to trauma! π
Well, having all that other pressure off would hopefully make it easier to deal with that too!
*hugs* if you want them
@Paradoxical Intention – Resident Cheeseburger Slut
Do I want to know who that is? (I tried googling the name, but all I got were a bunch of tortoises)
@Jesalin
*hugs accepted, with gratitude*
I’m managing. Metal helps if I can remember to listen to it π
And yeah, @various re: men and fear
A lot of it is personal variation. What traumas, how, when, circumstances, certain forms of luck and privilege or lack thereof, and just randomness. But overall my experience has been that most women, most people who present feminine, and most people who *have* at some point presented feminine, have trust issues around men.
It’s possible find women who aren’t at all scared of men. It’s also possible to find women with no developmental trauma at all. I do not think either kind of person is common.
Also, for the cis dudes here, worth noting that a lot of women give completely different responses on how they feel about men depending on whether they consider you male or female, for unfortunately obvious reasons of self preservation.
e.g. One of the horrifying things about early transition for me was learning all over again how big and brutal patriarchy is – hearing literally every woman I was close to, both cis and trans, mention at least one instance of sexual abuse. I don’t think I know *anyone* well who isn’t on some level a survivor, even the most financially and socially privileged.
@Tovius: You’re better with the tortises.
I was referring to Tomi Lauren, or whatever her name is. I can never remember, and I get her and Southern mixed up often, so Tortise Lorraine (or Tomato Laredo), is just as good.
@Cyborgette
hugs, I hope things go better for you soon.
π Yeah. I’ve never had tons of friends, but of all the women I’ve been friends with, I think there were only one or two who hadn’t been raped or otherwise sexually assaulted. It’s disturbing to say the least.
On the whole, for women, dating (and just existing in proximity to men) is a minefield.
4channer1: Hey, fellow 4channer, let’s run David Hogg’s face through a gender-swap filter. I’m sure the results will greatly embarrass David.
4channer2: Good idea!
4channer1: Wow! Gender-swapped David is head-turningly attractive.
4channer2: She certainly is. How should we process this?
4channer1: The same way we process all information that makes us uncomfortable, extremely poorly.
(Note: conversation run through 4chan to English filter; and edited for clarity, content, and good taste.)
@Ooglyboggles
*gratefully accepts your hugs as well*
and thank you. I think they will, it’s just been a burst of chaos lately because of being forced out of another living space. (Long story.)
@Jesalin
Yes. All of that. π
@Cyborgette
I think you deserve a baby elephant.
Everybody deserves a baby elephant.
Give a chan a foto…
I’m not surprised by anything these fools do, especially when it’s as ineffective as this.
No, this meme will not endure, it will vanish like smoke in a windstorm, reappearing fleetingly whenever David Hogg has inevitable success, and then vanishing again.
I find myself smiling whenever the Right cries about “not getting media time”… they’re not angry about not being publicised, they’re crying because NOBODYS LISTENING TO THEM
@Sheila
AAAIIII BABY ELEPHANT SO ROOOUNNNND AIIIIIIIIEEEEEE
*high pitched squeeing*
Thank you <3
I got my HRT prescription! Also, those elephants are awesome
Yay congrats Bakunin π
@ Paradoxical Intention – Resident Cheeseburger Slut
Oh, those assholes. I was thinking of someone lower on the totem pole, like that woman who brought her guns to Kent State.
@ Cyborgette
Hugs if you want them. I have to be out of the house in a few days, myself, so I feel your pain there.
I don’t have any elephants, but I do have a penguin live cam.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3aoxcIMbPw
@ Bakunin
Congrats!