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Two guilty bois

By David Futrelle

Manfort found guilty on eight counts; Cohen pleads guilty on eight counts. That’s 16 big guilties today! And Manafort has another trial on different charges hanging over his head as well. Shit is getting real.

And Trump is having one of his rallies tonight. Wonder if they’ll chant “lock her up?”

Talk amongst yourselves.

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K.
K.
6 years ago

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
6 years ago

Guilty! Guilty! Guilty as sin!

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaay, GUILTY!

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
6 years ago

Miss Cobalt
Miss Cobalt
6 years ago

Feeling schadenfreude-y

Banananana dakry
Banananana dakry
6 years ago

This is the time when I point and go β€œHa, Ha!”

It feels good.

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
6 years ago

At long last.

Now, can we do something about the orange idiot ? And if his more intelligent but even more evil VP could be impeached too, that would be great?

Fishy Goat
Fishy Goat
6 years ago

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weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

It’s been pointed out that the Qanon types will looks at the 8 counts for each, see a “Heil Hitler” code and point to it as proof that the deep state are the real Nazis. So that should be entertaining.

What’s most interesting to me so far is that congressional Republicans have been pretty quiet and not issuing much in the way of reaction to this news. Perhaps they’re starting to think that they’d better stop defending Trump now that Cohen has said under oath that the campaign finance violations were done at behest of “the candidate” who later reimbursed him. It’s obviously too much to hope they’re going to turn on him publicly right now. But it must be starting to sink in that history is going to look unkindly at them if they continue to let their party be the party of Trump.

Hippodameia
Hippodameia
6 years ago

Trump’s top economic advisor, Larry Kudlow, has been caught schmoozing with white supremacists and Rep. Duncan Hunter (and his wife) have been indicted on corruption charges. Hunter and Chris Collins (indicted 8/8/18) were early Trump supporters.

I hope Leavenworth will have enough room for all of the Trumpsters.

Dormousing_it
Dormousing_it
6 years ago

I’m getting so, so tired of reading – and hearing – “Rigged Witch Hunt” “13 Angry Democrats” “It’s a disgrace” and “No collusion”.

Maybe things will move more quickly after today’s events.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
6 years ago

I’m looking toward to people explaining why Trump’s four dimensional chess strategy requires a stint in a prison laundry.

GrumpyOldSocialJusticeMangina
GrumpyOldSocialJusticeMangina
6 years ago

Alan: Orange may be the new black, but it doesn’t make you black enough to end up working in the laundry in most US prisons.

tim gueguen
6 years ago

Tonight’s theme song:

Z&T
Z&T
6 years ago

Prison laundries.

Many of these (and other commercial laundries) are still using separate machines to wash and wring. I’m not entirely sure why this is so, I did not work on these things specifically.

Commercial extractors are still in use though. And still being made.
They’re also extremely dangerous and if you find yourself around one, especially an older one, you should probably stop being around it.

Some old smaller ones (US) can still be found in some public laundries. Do not go anywhere near the thing.

Your home washing machine. Has a 3 phase motor with a centrifugal clutch. I don’t know why some commercial machines just wash. I don’t think they dry the stuff either, the water is mostly spun out (extractor), and then they press it?

I have heard about plenty of accidents involving extractors anyway.

Prison Industries. UNICOR. Yeah they’re still stamping out license plates (US). Among other things. Might be a “get out of jail” card? :
Tell the police: I don’t have any skills UNICOR would be interested in.

Myself and my usual pals here do have skills they would be interested in. Uh oh.

Our pal T here, ok this makes me wonder about money and education. OK she has mechanical engineering and worked for this place (factory) that taught her how to do tool and die design, which is not quite the same thing. And a valuable skill to have too. And of course you have to understand machinery and all.

She had a lot of various prisons as clients, and you will deal with the inmates. One guy, she says, she talked to him for 15, 20 minutes on the phone, about what he wanted to make, had no who she was talking to. Which happens often because people call up and just start talking about what they want. If they decide to buy or want a written quote then you ask what co’ they’re with, they’re probably “already in the system” or you will proceed from there.

Unicor. Prison Industries. And .. I’m an inmate here. But I have authority to request a quote or whatnot and send the paperwork and boss man will OK it.

She says she had one guy, “I thought I was talking to an advanced designer or engineer.” Inmate.

And their job training was free …

Only a few qualify for that though, and they’re likely tested and have to have good behavior. T says the one guy she’s remembering said he was getting out in like 2 years, and she tried to encourage him and they talked about what he had learned in the shop there, and she said something like “It sounds like you really learned a lot, make the best of it.”

Prison inmates, yeah they’re literally stamping out license plates, they also make other things for the government. Everything from office furniture for gov offices to bags for postal carriers. It’s a whole world of manufacturing unto itself. And as long as they’re providing some job training and making things for the gov it sounds like a good idea.
The private sector making inroads here is probably a bad idea.

Back to laundries πŸ™‚

Doing your own laundry at home. Maybe buying a small neighborhood laundry as a business.

You know how many people complain about doing laundry? I actually like to do laundry! πŸ™‚ To me it’s the easiest of chores to do.

Small business wise myself and my usual pals I speak of, as well as several other people we know – many of us wish we could get a laundry! πŸ™‚

They are shockingly expensive. Franchises exist. Buy yourself a job!
To get a decent laundry is like half a million bucks. May or may not include the real estate. Real estate might double or triple that. Vacant commercial lots, even relatively small ones? In urban areas they’re very expensive.

We don’t have enough to get a laundry πŸ™

The brother of T’s ex BF wanted this too, they talked about it too, and this guy said “that was the dream that died.”

I want to laugh and cry at the same time here. To me, a “dream” would be more like a super interesting job, be famous (if you care about that), contributing something to the academic or art world, even a few patents. Or something simple that you always wanted to do, live simply, get enough ed. to get that basic zookeeper job, or open a little bakery, things like that.

Owning a laundry, to me sounds interesting and do able (and you could fix the machines yourself) (unless your corporate masters demand you use their techs), I would not really call this a “dream” though.

Sigh. It is though. To even just have a simple thing, is too far out of reach.

TL / DR: Somebody said laundry. TRIGGERED!
πŸ™‚ Maybe one day we will get one.

Dormousing_it
Dormousing_it
6 years ago

@Z&T:

Why are commercial extractors extremely dangerous? I used to work in a dry cleaner’s when I was a teenager. They laundered shirts. I remember seeing the extractor. I didn’t have to use it; I worked in front, serving customers.

An acquaintance of mine did time in a federal prison. His last job before he got out was in the kitchen. He was NOT happy.

OT: I was just about to turn off the light and go to sleep, when a mouse jumped on my chest. My cat likes to bring mice onto my bed. Sharing the bounty, I guess.

Diptych
Diptych
6 years ago

I believe that, in English prisons, laundry duties are carried out by bears. I’m also under the impression that the dyes used in prison-issued socks are highly volatile, so socks should always be washed separately.

MrsObedMarsh
MrsObedMarsh
6 years ago

Twitter user and anti-SJW personality Diversity and Comics deleted his account. It is a good day.

Z&T
Z&T
6 years ago

@ Dormousing it,

I should’ve been more clear about “old junky” extractors in industrial facilities, like a prison.

Something from the 1940s, the size of a hot tub, that was not maintained correctly.

Warning, the following is disturbing ..

I heard about an incident in an industrial laundry with one of these things that was built in the 1950s, it failed, and sent part of the top spinning at 2k rpm into a worker, like a metal frisbee, which transected the guy.

The old, poorly maintained, industrial things.

Fabe
Fabe
6 years ago

Twitter user and anti-SJW personality Diversity and Comics deleted his account. It is a good day.

what about his youtube channel?

Samantha Kaswell
Samantha Kaswell
6 years ago

Anyone care to join me in a rousing “Happy, happy. Joy, joy” circle dance?

I have not been this happy about anything political in a very long time.

Sheila Crosby
Sheila Crosby
6 years ago

In general I try not to do schadenfreude, but I’m making an exception.

So apparently there’s this tradition that special investigators etc. don’t throw any political spanners in the works for 2 months before an election. So I’m hoping more shoes will drop before Spetember 6th.

And then Comey broke that tradition (did he ever!) so maybe Mueller will too?

And I just read the theory that Trumpsters are so convinced that the midterms will be a cakewalk (because the orange one says so) that many of them might not turn out to vote. We can hope.

My worry is still that Putin will vote for them.

But hey, at least a little justice at last!

Marshmallow Stacy Maximal (formerly bluecat)
Marshmallow Stacy Maximal (formerly bluecat)
6 years ago

Well, good news. I’m cautiously optimistic. But wondering how soon before Trump presidentially pardons Manafort, to encourage the others.

And whether congressional Republicans are going to start taking their reputation as the party of law and order and moral responsibility seriously. Or does that only apply to denying birth control to women the Republican in question is not likely to have impregnated?

Cyborgette
Cyborgette
6 years ago

Re the post topic: this is probably not going to bring the Trump administration down IMO. Laws do not matter if the party in power refuses to enforce them. And despite all the talk of “deep state” stuff by Trumpists, US government bureaucracy is so far pretty happy to carry out illegal or malicious policies.

I don’t think the election of Trump can be meaningfully undone, and I am scared right now to hope for more than damage control and defensive action. Voting will be good but I don’t dare think it’s sufficient.

Cat Mara
Cat Mara
6 years ago

Obligatory link: Take it away, Mr. Scalzi!

Moggie
Moggie
6 years ago

I know it’s a side issue, but I’m wondering how Hannity is feeling right now.

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