By David Futrelle
Well, this little joke went over well on Twitter so I thought I’d post it here too.
Here’s one that didn’t go over quite as well. But it might just come to haunt your dreams.
I saw this so now you have to see it too pic.twitter.com/mSHcWXj6ou
— David Futrelle (@DavidFutrelle) August 15, 2018
Some good-ass tweets by people who aren’t me:
https://twitter.com/maddc8/status/1029184821329833986
https://twitter.com/BoringEnormous/status/1028321380213907458
Somebody waited their whole life to write this serial number pic.twitter.com/WxnKJwVbHw
— WendigoPBFox (@tmaxxnc) August 14, 2018
Accidentally shitting yourself vs. Defiantly shitting yourself to own the libs. pic.twitter.com/HIGCYuP1dJ
— Sir Woofingtons (@Sir_Woofingtons) August 15, 2018
Broken clock and all that.
Hm.
I’m reading what you’re writing, and I will reply, but I need to ask a question or so first. You’re saying that women invest colossal resources into manipulating men into being shallow, simple beings. Feminism, specifically, is especially guilty of this.
Can you provide some examples, or describe a mechanism of how we do this? You tried above, but WWTH pointed out that it was capitalism that was responsible for this. Can you give us a couple more? If it’s such a pervasive thing, I’m sure that isn’t too onerous a task.
Thank you in advance.
PS: I see you basically ignored everything I said above. I’d like you to address the point that you’re basically arguing for enforced monogamy while at the same time saying how it’s one of those terrible things that punishes men and constrains their behaviour. Your entire argument and the belief structure connected to it hinges on resolving this conflict, if you mean for your position to be a rational one.
We’re not the ones who keep bringing up the Alpha/Beta nonsense. You are.
Nope. To be honest, the guys in my personal life are all as trustworthy as the women. I don’t control them and I don’t have to watch over my shoulder constantly. Why? Because they’re not like you and your mates. In fact, outside of the internet I’ve yet to meet someone who has these confused ideas of the world that I keep encountering on this blog. For the longest time I actually thought you guys were a bad joke, tbh. Had to learn from people who were a lot less lucky in their lives that you were sadly not.
Most guys I know consider you and opinions like yours and JP’s to be pretty embarrassing, actually. And that’s the kinder ones. My father for example would probably have some more…direct things to say about your “theories”.
@Scild
Was looking forward to a detailed troll-shredding and was not disappointed.
They’re very good at hiding it which I learned during the November 2016 election and then again when Jessica Price was fired.
wrote it for you my duck! <3
@London Pilgrim
You still haven’t answered my question.
Why choose to come here and argue these ideas with us in particular? When you know there’s no-one here who will feel anything other than slightly irritated?
Dammit! Mammoth ate my post!
I don’t have time to recreate it, so here’s the shorter version (which basically mirrors some of what Scildfreja wrote far more eloquently).
@London Pilgrim/Richard Ford
None of what you claim is true, and your definition of feminism is laughable – you can’t point to a single credible source that uses anything remotely like it.
You haven’t provided any evidence for any of your claims because you can’t, and the very fact that you can’t really ought to tell you something about the quality of them. But it won’t.
Evidence or piss off; nobody cares what you “think.”
I have literally never met one single woman that expects men to be unfeeling alpha males. Not one. I suppose there must be a handful out there who do, but it’s by no means common to women. Especially not feminists.
Whether it’s for friendship or dating, I value men who are funny but in a sharp witted kind of way. Not an obnoxious and cruel kind of humor. I love animals, so I relate well to men who also love animals and are kind to them. I like men who are not racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic etc. Because I do not value hate. For sex or dating, I find men who are either skinny or slightly pudgy attractive. Not into the gym rat muscly look. Although body type is not that big of a deal. I love horror, sci-fi and fantasy movies, shows and books, so being into some of that is a plus. I don’t care about money very much at all. In fact, I wish we lived in a world less focused on money and career status.
Any of that sound like I expect men to be robot alphas?
Seriously. The pressure to be a big tough alpha male with no vulnerabilities at all comes from other men and it comes from the media that supports our uber capitalist culture. It does not remotely come from feminists. It doesn’t even come from women as whole.
I think that feminists oppress all men all day every day with their censorship , sexist shaming and other verbal abuse , sexual harassment of men, financial enslavement of men , promoting sexual harassment and sexual assault against men. I think neo- marxist misandrist hate-sites like wehuntedthemammoth, as well as other forms of feminist hate-propaganda promote these attitudes of misandry that hurt men every day. Feminism has a history of forcing monogomy onto men to prevent mgtow from catching on. I dream of a day when a man can publicly declare himself mgtow without feminists targeting him for abuse and harassment and when we are all free to speak our minds freely on the internet without cencorship attacks, sexual harassment, verbal abuse, and bullying from SJWs. I think feminists should not sexually harass mgtow men online anymore. Feminist abuse of men who identify as mgtow is an example of how feminists try to enforce monogomy onto men. Plus, feminists have tried to combat mgtowism with bachelor taxes, historically, in order to enforce marriage/monogamy/financial slavery onto men and stomp out mgtow/freedom for men. Facts, people, look them up.
@Slick Mick
Please, go. No one’s trying to stop you. In fact, instead of going your own way, you’re just here complaining. Why would someone who found their own way care so much?
What was it, a buy two, get the third free deal today?
@Bakunin
Please leave. No body is stopping you. You’re just complaining. Why would somebody who promotes “equality” care about other perspectives having a voice that they try to silence them?
Data point of one here, but I consider “man with no emotions” to be a huge red flag for someone I don’t want to be around. Most of those “alpha male” traits read to me as a warning sign for someone who’s domineering and controlling, and as someone I don’t want to be around. Give me people without pretention, please.
You have complained loudly in this thread about all of us putting words in your mouth; you’ve done nothing but put them in ours. We don’t want the things you claim we want, we aren’t doing the things you claim we’re doing. Here you are, doing it again. We want big emotionless robots, you say, whereas none of us want that.
Not that you’ll acknowledge this. Like everything else, it doesn’t fit your narrative, so it slides off.
Mick. How many years has it been? And you still need to come try and get some attention whenever we’re paying attention to other trolls?
Yawn.
Funny. Why don’t you provide a link, if these facts of yours are so easy to find?
We’re not going to do your work for you, dumbass.
[Edited to add: at least LP/RF could write complete sentences most of the time, with reasonable punctuation. Boring troll is incompetent.]
Feminists constantly use shaming language to verbally abuse men for expressing their emotions. It’s very hurtful to men. “Male tearsa” anyone? Feminism is openly hostile and mocking to any expression of male emotion that isn’t rooted in benevolent sexism and white knighting and concern over women. Men are simply not allowed to have emotions in our society because feminists will attack them and verbally abuse them and because of female privilege, get away with it. That’s the terrordome of living in a gynocracy.
Aww. MRAL is so territorial over this site, isn’t he?
@London Pilgrim
“The problem is- and always has been- feminism. The very word itself makes this obvious. Feminism holds that female perception and values are better than male perception and values.
What the hell these things are is not explained.
This outlook has infected all areas of the culture so that there is no escape from it. The logical conclusion is that the incel is worthless because the incel is perceived by women to be worthless.”
I am really bored of this troll now. He isn’t even trying to make sense.
@Mick Dash,
You’re more eloquent than this usually! What’s wrong, my duck?
I see you have a lot of I think and I feel in that parade of bias, is there any one that stands out as being especially worthy to you? Otherwise I see a common theme of “Feminism enforces monogamy!”, which is ridiculous on its face – feminism does and has always encouraged breaking down the traditionally enforced marriage structures, because women are generally treated like possessions or second class people in those arrangements. You’re just mad that we’re not subservient little housewives anymore.
As for this, I got an excellent giggle:
Ah yes, the feminists forcing marriage and monogamy through bachelor taxes! A well-known tactic of the great feminist uprising of… [checks notes] 1934.
I did a bit of reading on these bachelor taxes of the early century! Most were in the 1800’s – you know, the heyday of feminism and all that – and were introduced by those stalwarts of the matriarchy, er, upper-class-rich-white-men. Clearly they knew that women would obtain the vote 100 years later in the 19th amendment of the united states, and were attempting to curry favour with the supreme matriarchs.
Just curious though, can you point out any bachelor taxes that are from this century, and not 200 years ago?
You’re too much, Mick, really.
@scilfreja
Thank you for your very civil reply. You are quite right. I am not answering your questions properly.
The best way to describe what I am talking about is to ask you to look at an old couple who have been together for 20 years or more. Notice that the man follows behind the woman, reduces his height in her presence with a sort of cringe and can sometimes come to look like her. There is a science behind this. Testosterone declines when a man is in a relationship. It is natures way of keeping him at home and making his hyper agreeable. In older couples this is maintained simply by the odd disapproving look. The previous generation believed that men and women were a team so no great control is ever applied. This is often a living and mutually beneficial relationship but we should be clear who is in charge. The man says ‘yes dear’ a lot.
Older people grew up in the expectation of a marriage that would be run by women- but with compassion. A man was under his mother, who loved him until handed over to a wife who also managed him. She determined what he ate and when, how the home is furnished and so on.
To a great extent this is unavoidable and part of human nature and can work out well. The problem comes with feminism. In traditional societies both parties believe they are running the show and both are correct in their way. The man runs the external show the woman the internal one. Unfortunately feminism convinces the w9man she is in fact being dominated by men through patriarchy. Everything therefore becomes a war that must be won. This may be done in good ways or bad but the whole thing becomes deadly serious. If a man shows independence, or has friends or any independent influence upon his life this will be viewed through this lens and must be crushed.
We need to define what i mean by enforced monogamy. It does not involve allocating virgins ISIS style but it does mean ownership of decisions. A family cannot be razed in a chaotic or violent home. Drama can be exciting, affairs, conflict conspiracy! All are exciting but none build a stable society.
People should be proud of good choices and regret bad ones. If you talk to people who’s lives are a mess you may discover they knew their actions would lead to the current situation! People actually know when they are making a mistake!
A sense of shame is all that we need to have people behave decently. The state has taken to policing language and opinions. Our sense of decency should do this for us!
Oh, is that MRAL?
Double yawn.
Oh shit, London, are you seriously trying to science this at me?
I’ll get you a reply shortly, this is the sort of thing I’ll want to do after work, when I can focus. Short form, brains don’t work that way, but popular opinion likes to think they do. Wonder why.
Prepare for science, motherfuckers.
http://oi45.tinypic.com/250ia9t.jpg
Makes BIG batch of popcorn
@ London Pilgrim
Do you have their address; I’ll check them out. I would agree with you that that is bizarre behaviour; but one sample doesn’t really prove anything.
@Mick
Go fuck yourself. This isn’t your space. You wanna go your own way so goddamn bad, do it.
But before you go, badge taxes. Let’s go find those facts, so you have something while your fucking off.
Ancient Rome. Not feminist. Next.
15th century Ottoman Empire. Not feminist.
Passed in 1695 in England, abolished 11 years later. Women couldn’t vote in England until 1918. Not feminist.
Missouri in 1821. Women couldn’t vote. Not feminist.
Michigan periodically tried from 1837-1935. Never passed. Also women couldn’t vote for the majority of that time. Not feminist.
New Jersey 1898. Proposed by male assemblyman Waller, not passed. Women couldn’t. Not feminist.
Montana 1921. Actually passed, but struck down less than a year later as unconstitutional. Women could vote, but feminism as a philosophy was still a few decades away. Maybe had women involved though.
California 1935. Proposed by male minister of finance Roland Vanderbilt. Failed to pass. Not proposed by feminists.
1919 South Africa. Passed by massive racists. White women still couldn’t vote for 11 years. Very racist, not feminist.
1923 Repelen, Germany. Passed and overturned by federal authorities. Women could vote, did not last a significant period.
Italy, 1927-1943. In other words, fascist Italy. Passed by massive racists, Mussolini himself praised the tax for that reason. Also very unfair, doubled the taxes owed by bachelor’s. Not feminist though. A mayor proposed bringing it back in 1999. The mayor was named Vincenzo Venditti. Not a woman.
Communist Poland. Wasn’t actually a bachelor tax, actually was a tax on all childless people over 21, later 25. Not feminist.
USSR. Again, not a bachelor tax, applied to men and women without children. Not feminist.
Communist Romania. Actually a celibacy tax, meant to improve birthrates. Also, Communist Romania was incredibly not feminist.
And there we go. Lots of totalitarian regimes, racists concerned with birthrates, places where women couldn’t vote, failed proposals, and two. TWO. Two fucking examples where women could vote and a bachelor tax passed. Both of which predated feminist theory, and both of which were quickly struck down.
FACTS, SHIT HEAD. GO. LOOK. THEM. UP!
Hopefully SJWs will join with the rest of the adult world and learn to conversate like grown ups and treat others as equals, learn some compassion and tolerance, without throwing a temper tantrum and resorting to verbal abuse as the crux of their “argument” to enforce their rigid authoritarian viewpoints and they can instead learn to use facts and logic in formulating their communications with others instead of intimidating others into aqueiscence with their verbal abuse… perhaps if sjws weren’t so xenophobic toward the perceived “other” they might learn from other perspectives …beyond their authoritarian ideological dogma and elitist insular privileged perspectives…
https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/feminists-are-winning-in-spain-happy-about-it-all-hail-the-matriarchy/page/2/