By David Futrelle
Friday used to be meme-day here on We Hunted the Mammoth, so today I thought I’d revive the tradition with a few (relatively) fresh MGTOW memes I found on Facebook.
As you’ll notice, two of these memes are basically self-defeating, so poorly designed that they basically make the opposite of the point they’re intended to make. And the other two seem to come from a planet other than our own, in that they do not reflect anything close to reality on this planet.
The first self-defeating meme is the one above, featuring two non-MGTOW frogs enjoying a nice soak in a special frog hot tub. Given how cheerful they both look, it seems pretty clear the water is a long way from its boiling point, giving them plenty of time to jump to safety if the water gets too hot for their tastes. No boiled frogs here, just a couple of frog buddies letting their tension melt away.
This next meme offers a visual representation of the so-called “cock carousel” that all (Western) women supposedly ride in their twenties.
Ok, just a few questions: If the gal on the left is supposed to be the typical young women, and the guy on the right is supposed to be the typical guy, who exactly are all these guys the gal is, er, “riding?” Unless all the women in the world are fucking the exact same couple of dozen dudes, shouldn’t the sides balance out, with typical men having a roughly similar number of partners as typical women?
In real life, of course, they do. And the number, not surprisingly, is way way way lower than the number the MGTOWs have cooked up in their fevered dreams. According to the CDC, the median number of (opposite sex) partners that Americans between 25 and 44 had over their lifetimes (as of 2011-2015) was 6.1 for men and 4.2 for women. Other studies have found slightly higher numbers, though it’s hard to tell how reliable any of these numbers are. Why do men have higher numbers than women? Possibly because men tend to exaggerate their numbers and women to underestimate theirs.
Here’s another meme from yet another planet:
The notion that the government does the bidding of women because they’re a slight majority of the electorate comes staright from good old Warren Farrell, the intellectual godfather of the Men’s Rights Movement, someone who clearly has no idea how politics actually works — despite his PhD in political science. Our current president bragged about sexually assaulting women, joked about sexually assaulting Elizabeth Warren at his rally yesterday, and appoints white men to fill the vast majority of key jobs in his administration. Once he puts another white dude on the Supreme Court — the apparent front-runner for the pick is a white dude — the court is likely to overturn Roe Vs Wade or take other steps to effectively outlaw abortion in huge portions of the US. 65% of women oppose overturning Roe, according to a recent Quinnipiac poll,
But MGTOWs (and many MRAs) honestly think they live in some sort of “gynocracy.”
Let’s end with this cute little meme:
Obviously. the point of the meme is to suggest that marriage is a trap for men. But, er, it’s generally the man who offers the ring to the women, so doesn’t this meme imply that that it’s really the woman being trapped?
MGTOWs can’t do anything right, can they?
More articles warning that Trump is taking America on a dangerous path that can end in genocide:
https://beatbiaswithbekah.com/2018/07/03/ten-steps-to-a-genocide-ice-immigrants-and-where-america-is-on-the-list/
https://forward.com/opinion/letters/404498/is-the-muslim-ban-the-first-step-to-genocide/
https://forward.com/opinion/403515/yes-you-should-be-comparing-trump-to-hitler/
I made a comment that is in moderation on that 10 steps to genocide article. I’ll just paste it in here. It’s a good post, but not complete, so I added some things.
“Do you want to know more?”
Gawds…where do I even start?
The first one:
I’m so glad that Chef Mario is a feminist. But while I admit I’ve never cooked frogs, I don’t think you’re supposed to just drop them in the pot.
The second one:
I can assure you that my high school and college years were nothing like the MGTOW making this meme depicted for girls. In high school, I was a goth/headbanger with some punk tendencies and everyone spread rumors that I was a devil worshiper. It was stupid.
I ended up dropping out of college after the first semester and didn’t go back until I was much older. I was sexually assaulted and had a mental breakdown. Good times.
Even though I self-medicated a lot, I hated clubbing. So, I never did that. By the time I was 25, I had a child. I never had a big circle of gal pals. My son did play junior league soccer for a while, though.
The third one:
I think this succubus is perhaps a little too overzealous in promoting her candidate of choice and might need to tone down the blood spurting from her eyes and mouth a bit so as not to scare off potential voters. Other than that, I admire her conviction.
The last one:
You should give your potential marriage partner the ring, most definitely. Either of those traps would hurt.
@ The Real Cie:
You’re right. Also I’ve just noticed there are flames shooting up around the edge of the burner. Feminist or not, he needs to be more serious about kitchen fire safety.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: these guys really need to stop forming their worldviews based on sex comedies and porn.
Actually, wait, I’m going to amend that: Stop using sex comedies and porn to rationalize your failure to achieve the status symbols that those very media have conditioned you to be the markers of “”””success”””” as a man.
That’s what’s so laughable about the self-styled “MGTOWs”… if they actually evaluated themselves and found other objectives in life for fulfillment, they might actually be able to pursue happiness. But that’s clearly not what it is that they’re in it for: they want to stew in resentment and build a community based entirely on that resentment.
I spent Saturday on Toronto Island photographing the cityscape and the wildlife. As a single guy of modest means, it was something I could just wake up and decide to do on a sunny weekend. But that’s not the vision these guys are offering: it’s just “here’s some biotrufs and some raw hate to chew on.”
Hey guys, remember the time Glenn Beck tried to demonstrate the frog-will-jump-out-of-boiling-water thing without testing it first, and ended up just killing a couple frogs on air?
Some MGTOW genius commenting on a YouTube video once tried to convince me that 80% of women are sleeping with just the top tier of “elite” men. This supposedly creates an imbalance that must be corrected by some kind of Jordan Peterson/Ross Douthat-approved “redistribution” of sex.
@LindsayIrene
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FFS the US government has been in the pockets of the food industry in some way for just about forever, so why the sudden chaos over other countries promoting breastfeeding in their own damn countries? FFS it’s just breastfeeding .
*clicks link*
Is it just me or do even some of the manufacturers of baby formula seem a bit WTF?
Ok, I can’t say he’s wrong. I predominantly breastfed my 3 children until they self-weaned as toddlers, and even I endured one lady giving me dirty looks one of the few times I bottlefed them. I’m a big promoter of breastfeeding, but not all women can breastfeed. Full stop.
If the baby formula companies and the HHS are not supportive of the Trump administration’s rampage of blackmailing 3rd world countries from introducing measures to promote breastfeeding, then what gives?
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Cui bono? Who benefits? Also known as “follow the money”.
In this instance, the only observable consequence is that Russia gained some international standing at the expense of the US. So, one more instance of Trump doing precisely the job that he was hired to do.
Rusia and China are often moving in the holes that the USA left.
China is trying to control a lot of comerce in a lot of contries from Asia to America.
We have a local Harleyseller, who is quite happy about the fact that Harley Davidson will produce its Harley anywhere else than in the USA.
At the moment the G-7 is trying to find a way to work without their biggest ally and friend for a long time.
We had newspaperarticel that said we have to see America (or at last Trump) as an enemy in the future.
On the other hand we don’t want to destroy every line to our “American friends”. (Says someone who consumes a lot of American media)
People, if this is what a so called “feminist” government looks like than we should all be ashamed of ourselves. Of course the idea is ludicrous. I submit that any person here could do better in an afternoon off the top of their head.
And those memes were pretty much impenetrable even with the expository text. No offense to you David, you were more than heroic.
@Samantha Kaswell wrote:
I lived in Chicago as a teen and I remember seeing the lurid photos of women dead from botched, back alley abortions. I cannot help but think that this is something these men WANT to see happen, perhaps as a way to make us so fearful that we will obediently go through as many pregnancies as our “masters” want, producing soldiers and consumers…our lives fading away because of it.
You must have grown up in the same Chicago and era that my dad did. I remember being surprised that Dad was pro-choice because he is usually the most hateful sexist that ever hated. When I questioned him about it, he told me in horrified whispers of seeing the newspaper articles ‘every week’ about women who had died from botched abortions and how he never wanted that era to come back.
I will add to your last paragraph of good sense that women need to really start believing that we can take care of each other and keep each other safe and actually start to figure out what it might be like to have our own fate and safety in our own hands.
What’s with your hatred of Trump? Do you not realise what side you have inadvertently chosen, in the grand scheme, here?
You’re right, Mgtow’s are sexist losers.
Incels are angry, violent, terroristic, woman-hating losers.
That’s easy to see.
But you, while correct in your assessment of the Incels and Mgtow’s, seem to be not much better: you breathlessly preach how Trump is Literally Hitler and at the same time, taking the side of the globalists and technocrats and Chi-comms who are seeking to implement an anti-human, anti-freedom, AI- policed, automated, “green-communist” totalitarian dictatorship.
What you might not realise about Trump supporters, is that it is not rooted in racism or misogyny. Your spiel at the end of your well founded attack on mgtow/incel is bs. There are plenty of VALID reasons to support the President!
My support for Trump (limited as it is- I can’t defend most of the dumb things he’s said on Twitter, for instance) stems from the fact that he can see what I described above, in other words, he knows that American sovereignty is under attack by global institutions like the UN who would rather America’s decisions about Trade, Climate, Immigration, et. c., be made by themselves than by the elected leadership of the USA. It’s all a sovereignty and freedom thing for most of us.
We are concerned with big tech monopolies attempting to police political speech while moving to China, helping them with their human rights abuses and anti-freedom agenda, and pushing anti-American propaganda in America, for the biggest mass murderers in history, the Communist Chinese…
We are concerned about the huge convoys of armed men coming over the southern border… as these are not families or hard in their luck immigrants looking for jobs Americans don’t want. Armed infiltrators aren’t good for anyone, left or right!
We are also concerned about the political system of Islam (not about “brown people”) and how it clashes with American values. This doesn’t mean we hate or even dislike Muslims. Islam=political system, muslims= people like any other.
My point is, once you look past the media deception (pushing pro-globalist, anti-sovereignty talking points 24/7) you will see a clear battle line forming in America and beyond… not between white racists and minorities, or misogynists and women, but between those who wish for a global system where everyone is equal and there are no borders and nations, and those who wish to maintain their national identity, however troubled it’s past may be,… because they truly think it’s unique, and worth protecting.
What kind of a future do you want for your grand-kids? It’s America or the New World Order. Nationalism, free markets, prosperity, and liberty… or globalist technocracy, Eco-Communism, poverty, and a totally controlled society.
You may be bang-on when it comes to mgtow and incel freaks, but you are on the wrong side of history with your hysteria over Trump.
Michael Columcille, are you high? Or, rather just how high are you?
I’m hoping the answer is “really, really high” because all that shit you’re talking about is not actually reality.
@Michael Columcille
What is your opinion on Trump’s Kiddie Concentration Camps?
Russia.
Well, you’ve got the Nationalism part down pat.
How does your definition of “liberty” square with Trump’s attacks on the press and freedom of speech? How does it square with immigrant kids in cages, with black people being slaughtered in their own houses by off-duty cops, with kids being mowed down in their own schools by classmates with easy access to assault rifles? With the increase in hate crimes and street harassment and BBQ Beckys and Nazi rallies since Trump got elected? We are against all of these things. Are you, or is “liberty” just some meaningless buzzword to you?
How are tariffs and trade wars bringing prosperity to the nation’s soybean farmers and steel manufacturers? How has the massive income gap created by Republican tax breaks and deregulation contributed to prosperity for the average person?
Please explain the difference between sharia law and what right-wing Christian dominionist Trump voters have been trying for decades to establish in America. While you’re at it, please also explain how laws curtailing women’s reproductive freedoms increase liberty in America..
Prosperity and liberty are just empty words you’re slinging around, son. There is no “big picture” with Trump. All he cares about is lining his pockets and having people cheer for him at his bigly rallies and (increasingly) staying out of jail. He can barely put a coherent sentence together and his daily briefings have to be spoon-fed to him in coloring book form. I doubt he could find Syria on a map. What makes you think he has any grasp of foreign policy?
Syria, hell. I doubt he could find Syracuse on a map.
Mikey,
If Trump is so anti-establishment and so opposed to “free trade” then why he is he gutting regulations that protect us from corporate dominance and control? How come he’s working with longtime establishment Republican senators like Grassley, Graham, and McConnell to ram through a SCOTUS nominee who is extremely ethically challenged to say the least, but is beloved by conservatives because he’s a rich boy who will act as a rubber stamp for the agenda of the super wealthy. And how does the anti gay and anti abortion rights positions of the extreme right judges Trump is packing the courts with square with your claim that Trumpism is all about freedom and liberty?
Also, what are American values as you define them? What period in American history best exemplifies these values?
(Sigh) the whole thing is just sour grapes. Men who really aren’t interested in women – gays, say, or those who are loners by nature and live in an isolated area alone – don’t go on and on about how evil women and marriage are. Those who do are just bad-mouthing what they desperately want but obviously cannot get.
@Anonymous
Hey buddy love your response to the page but you need to stop posting in old threads. It annoys everyone who get notification and such. Just try to stay up to date.