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Incels fear dystopian future in which women can tell they have tiny dicks at a distance.

Some tiny pricks are ADORABLE

By David Futrelle

You may worry about your country descending into chaos, or turning into a fascist hellhole, or even a bit of both. But when incels imagine the future they have much more specific concerns. Oddly specific, you might say.

Over on Incels.me, one paranoid commenter conjures up what for him is evidently the most nightmarish future dystopia he can imagine: One in which women can use sonar technology to check out penis size at a distance. 

In a thread titled, with typical incel melodrama, “[SuicideFuel] In 2030, it will be absolutely over for dicklets”  — dudes with tiny dicks — a fellow called Cuckcel offers his dire warning.

The reason is simple: VR glasses will be worn in daily life. For foids, there will be an app on it that estimates the penis size of men even when they wear pants through soundwaves like a bat. Hence dicksize will be as visible as the face hence big dick incels will be in gigantic demand. Also it will matter if the jews took your foreskin or not.  Additionally, foids will be notified like in pokemon go if there is a big dicked man nearby and she will be given pointers where to find him. How will that change sexual dynamics? Discuss

Incel dudes, when women look at you the first thing that pops into their mind isn’t “small dick.” It’s “huge asshole,” because that’s what you are.

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Zaunfink
Zaunfink
2 years ago

Because although a vagina is stretchy, it’s not a freaking Tardis!

I love you. That’s all.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Consider that these are the sorts of men who respond to big boobs by stopping doing whatever they’re doing, going to this woman, who may be married, or gay, or trying to eat a pastrami sandwich in peace, and then pestering her … or worse.

Actual thing a man felt the need to come up and pester me with when I was waiting for a bus. “Are those real? Because if so, I’ll give you my home phone, cell phone and address.”

This tech will really help that one troll from a ways back who was very, very into the idea of a penis-hierarchy.

I almost miss Walter. I’d trade a whiny incel or asshole MAGA in for him any day.

Ok I was a real slut in my youth and I’ve seen my fair share of penises. And in my experience… size usually doesn’t vary that much? Or what do any other slutty lady or gay/bi man in here think? I mean, sure, size varies a bit, but not as much as a lot of men seem to think?

I concur. I could not rank the penes I’ve touched to save my life. There was one that was noticeably large and one that was noticeably small. The rest of them? No clue. Guess they were all within an average range.

I think sex ed classes for teens should address porn and how it’s okay to watch it, but it doesn’t represent a realistic picture of sex. Too many young people, especially guys seem to take their beauty standards from it, both for themselves and their partners. It also seems to influence what sex acts people think they and their partners need to be willing to do to be good in bed. Sadly overprotective parents (at least in the US) will never allow this topic to be discussed honestly to their children by educators. They’d much rather believe that their precious angels would never think to look at internet porn unless evil liberal teachers forced them into it by acknowledging it exists.

Speaking of sex ed. Whatever happened to Lacey Green? Last I heard she’d gone TERF and Nazi apologist. Is that still the case? She still making videos? I’m not sure pissing off feminists who care about intersectionality was a good career move for her. I used to hear positive things about her all the time. Then I heard negative things for a couple of months. Now nothing. It seems her internet influence disappeared.

Katamount
Katamount
2 years ago

Aw FFS incels, stop relying on porn tropes to craft your goddamned worldview! It never ends well!

Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
2 years ago

@WWTH:

I almost miss Walter. I’d trade a whiny incel or asshole MAGA in for him any day.

Say … where are all the trolls lately? It’s been ages since we got to bat one around the place.

Maybe they’ve learned …

… No way. 🙂

Sadly overprotective parents (at least in the US) will never allow this topic to be discussed honestly to their children by educators.

“Overprotective” here meaning “oppressive and using ‘protectiveness’ as their excuse”. Actual protective behavior would include letting educators educate their offspring about these things, so that they could make correctly informed choices later in life and avoid all sorts of problems, both for themselves and for the similarly-aged offspring of other parents.

Fishy Goat
Fishy Goat
2 years ago

@Dvärghundspossen Same, here. Most penises were about the same re: length But I was far more taken with someone who loved going down on me. 😀

(And re: smaller dicks: they’re just as much fun IMO – and from my limited experience with them, they seem to get harder easier.)

LindsayIrene
2 years ago

On some other left-leaning sites (not this one), I’ve been dog-piled for saying that teens might, just might, get incorrect ideas about sex from porn. A lot of supposedly-woke guys get upset at the idea that porn could be anything but benign. I’ve been told that, since teens understand that video games are fake, that they also instinctively understand that porn is fake, too, and kids these days are just so smart and media-savvy these days, there’s nothing to worry about!

It seems obvious now that the wide availability of porn has influenced inceldom? Right?

Malitia
Malitia
2 years ago

Batgirl being lesbian

Isn’t that Batwoman? I mean, I’m not an expert on the various Batgirls, but I’m sure Batwoman is a lesbian.

Scildfreja Unnyðnes
Scildfreja Unnyðnes
2 years ago

A lot of supposedly-woke guys get upset at the idea that porn could be anything but benign.

Oh God. Yeah, that’s a thing. Brogressive dudes are all about feminism – ’cause they think “feminist” means “dtf”. They totally agree with ending poverty and homelessness – until it means doing more than marching.

It’s just like suggesting that video games might desensitize someone to violence. The first reaction is “rabble-rabble-science-studies-show-that-s-wrong” along with a mess of insults, but if you point out that those studies were funded largely by the gaming industry it turns into more insults and less discourse.

(Not that I’m saying that video games do desensitize people to violence; I’m saying they might.)

Same for porn. Suggesting thing-they-like might have some sort of harmful effect is oppression you guyse! It’s just as bad as having the government take your children away!

More on topic, I don’t know whether “inceldom” is caused by the wide availability of porn, but it’s certainly an influencing factor. It’s in the network. I rather think that a larger factor is actually “community aggregators” like 4chan and reddit. Porn is a one-way interaction so you don’t really get much of a feedback loop. Community members bounce off of one another and end up making a positive feedback loop with no limiter to maintain allostasis. Not familiar with any work that’s being done to suss that sort of thing out, but that’s my first guess!

Kereea
Kereea
2 years ago

Yep, current Batgirl is Barabara Gordon who’s been off-on with Dick Grayson for forever (currently off), but I am unsure of her current relationship status (I know Dick’s with an artist in the new Bludhaven, or at least was, and there’s been writing hints in Nightwing that he’s not straight, mainly Damian not being sure if Dick is dating a man or a woman). So she could be bi/pan, and the previous Batgirl, Stephanie Brown, had a lot of people thinking she might be bi with how she treated both Supergirl and the previous Batgirl, Cassandra Cain (Steph had a prior relationship with Tim Drake).

Meanwhile, Kate Kane is Batwoman and a Jewish lesbian and, because she’s Bruce’s maternal cousin and Jewish, may have accidentally retconned Bruce into being Jewish due to it being culturally matrilineal.

Katamount
Katamount
2 years ago

@Scildfreja

I rather think that a larger factor is actually “community aggregators” like 4chan and reddit. Porn is a one-way interaction so you don’t really get much of a feedback loop. Community members bounce off of one another and end up making a positive feedback loop with no limiter to maintain allostasis.

Yeah, I’d agree here. A single video, you watch, do your thing, it’s over, you turn it off. In your conscious mind, you know it’s all camera trickery and meant for fantasy. The issue comes in when you get a group of people together talking as if those tropes are “the way the world works.” It’s just another example of why this “ironic edgelording” can be so insidious: once everybody’s talking in their “ironic” mode all the time, well then it stops being ironic and you’ve internalized it. I do happen to think that peen size anxiety is more of a mainstream cultural artefact more than any ironic shitposting, but even playing into that anxiety ironically only reinforces it, which is why I’ve stopped referencing pecker size in, say, discussions about the gun-humpers.

Fabe
Fabe
2 years ago

Hey incels that may be lurking here

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Katamount
Katamount
2 years ago

Oh yeah, and Happy Independence Day from the great white north, American Mammotheers!

Enjoy the day as much as you can… given the heat…..

Dvärghundspossen
Dvärghundspossen
2 years ago

Re the whole “people can separate fantasy from reality” I think it’s important to keep two things in mind:

1. Facts are one thing and judgments about ethics, aesthetics etc quite another. When Twilight came out a lot of people said it’s problematic that it’s so popular because it portrays stalking, threats etc as romantic, and a lot of other people said “but even teens realize it’s just fantasy! They know vampires don’t exist, for starters”. And yeah, even little kids realize that the facts are different when you compare our world with the world of Twilight (vampires exist vs don’t exist etc). But you might still be influenced to think that stalking is romantic, because this is not a factual judgment.
Furthermore, and I don’t remember if I’ve said it before on this site or just in other internet discussions, but I actually think there are serious limits to how much we can suspend disbelief re ethics, aesthetics and such. We can suspend disbelief a lot re facts; I can watch Star Trek and accept that there’s teleportation and faster than light travel or read Lord of the Rings and accept that Gandalf can do magic. But you couldn’t really write a novel about a child molester and just stipulate “since this takes place in a different universe where child molestation is a good thing (even though the children still suffer etc, because ethics are just different in this universe), you should root for our molesting protagonist to molest as much as possible.” That just wouldn’t work.

2. Even re facts you tend to assume that a piece of fiction presents them accurately unless you have a reason to believe it does not. A good example I read about in some article on this topic was that people who’ve never been to Washington but they’ve seen “True Lies” think there are skyscrapers in Washington, because why not? So if you have zero experience with sex and didn’t get any good sex ed, you might acquire false beliefs about factual matters from porn too, when it’s stuff you have no initial reason to believe are false.

j
j
2 years ago

Is it true that feminists men are more often predators than the ‘general’ man? Kinda curious. I won’t lie, I find the behavior of the ‘all in’ guys to be kinda strange.

Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
2 years ago

Re: Batgirl(s) and Batwoman

OK, so it’s complicated. I’m much more into Dykes To Watch Out For than superhero comics.

Re: Penis size variation:

If there’s any external factor making boys and men worry about being “too small”, it’s probably porn rather than men comparing each other’s flaccid (or erect) sizes in real life.

ellesar
ellesar
2 years ago

“The Jews took your foreskin”

Christ on a bike, even I, a goy English lesbian, knows that Circumcision in the US is super common (though I believe becoming less so) because of masturbation taboo, and has nothing to do with Jews.

Graham Linehan has gone full TERF

Are you referring to that ghastly IT Crowd episode? I love IT Crowd, but that episode is just unbelievable, so fucking offensive to transwomen and anyone who gives a shit about transwomen. And to think that he has talked about misogyny and calls himself an ally!

Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
2 years ago

ellesar,

Many years ago I was watching the US sitcom Dharma & Greg on Finnish TV, and was like “WTF?” when in one episode they framed circumcision as a Jewish tradition. Dharma’s father was Jewish, but Greg’s both parents were like the waspiest WASPs that ever wasped.

ellesar
ellesar
2 years ago

Lumipuna – I used to love Dharma and Greg.

I guess one of the reasons is because Jewish male circumcision is thousands of years old. Growing up I didn’t really know about other groups who circumcise, even though I knew very few Jews.

Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
2 years ago

A common belief among US intactivists seems to be that women generally prefer circumcised men. However, apparently this isn’t seen as a welcome advantage on dating market.

BlueNinja
BlueNinja
2 years ago

The tinfoil codpiece will soon be all the rage. lol

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

I think that male attracted people in the US might prefer the look of a circumcised penis because that is what we’re used to seeing.

However, the notion that intactivists have that mothers circumcise because they want their sons to get laid more as an adult is ridiculous. I also doubt that very many women would dump a bepenised partner for being uncircumcised. I’m sure there are a few out there, but I’ve never heard of it.

It’s just a convenient way to try and blame women for a practice started by patriarchal religions and popularized in the US by a man (Dr Kellogg) who had some really weird ideas about sexuality and the human body.

Not that I’m saying anything everyone else here didn’t already know.

Dormousing_it
Dormousing_it
2 years ago

RE: Circumcision. I have a friend who had her first child, a boy, nearly 10 years ago. She was sort of indecisive about whether or not to have the child circumcised. Her husband, the boy’s dad: “My son WILL…BE…CIRCUMCISED!” while beating his fist on the table for emphasis.

My own guess is, the dad was circumcised, and therefore, he wanted his son to be, too.

BTW, they followed no religion that required circumcision.

I also know someone who got circumcised as an adult. The healing and recovery was no fun. He tried to restrict his liquid intake while healing, because it was so painful to urinate.

Vucodlak
Vucodlak
2 years ago

Christians took my foreskin, for reasons that are seriously gross and considerably more distressing to me than my lack of foreskin, but are disturbingly common in the US.

Austin G Loomis
2 years ago

Surplus skrev:

You think there’s something wrong with working on blockchain projects?

RationalWiki’s own David Gerard has written an entire book about what’s wrong with blockchain projects and with many of the people who have worked, and many of the people who still work, on them. Link under my name, courtesy today’s inciting exstallment of Logrolling in Our Time.

Full Metal Ox
2 years ago

@Dormousing_it:
If I’m not being rude to ask: what was the occasion for your friend to undergo circumcision in adulthood–conversion to Judaism or Islam, perhaps?

Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
2 years ago

@Scildfreja:

Same for porn. Suggesting thing-they-like might have some sort of harmful effect is oppression you guyse! It’s just as bad as having the government take your children away!

I expect this is a defensive response to persistent concern-trolling by religious prudes and other assorted rightwingers whose goal is to censor stuff rather than to improve sex ed in schools.

Robert
Robert
2 years ago

I saw an argument for circumcision that amounted to ‘won’t my son be confused because his penis doesn’t look like mine?’

I asked my younger son’s therapist about this. “Is this really a thing? I had a wonderful relationship with my father but I have absolutely no idea what his penis looked like. I’m sure he *had* one, but that’s about it.” She replied tactfully, “Well, Robert, there are *all sorts* of families. . .”

CW:TMI

Both of our sons are uncircumcised, and we had no issue with it. I think infant circumcision is becoming less common in the United States.

Regarding size – I’m utterly indifferent to it. I once had a conversation with another gay man about it, and remarked, “What difference does it make how fast a car looks when it’s parked?” He pointed out that as someone who a) doesn’t drive, and b) has no particular interest in penes as such, my perspective might be atypical. I’ve told my husband that the thing I like about his isn’t the size, it’s that it’s *his*.

Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
2 years ago

@Austin:

A quick skim over those headlines suggests that he doesn’t have a problem with blockchain per se, but rather with a whole host of scammers and fly-by-nights appropriating the terminology as a marketing buzzword.

If there is a problem with the actual bona-fide technology, rather than just with various misapplications of either it or merely its name, I’d like to know about it. Because it seemed recently to me to show great promise as the potential base for a truly decentralized net — no central name authorities, all static content retrievable by file hash regardless of whether any particular web server happens to be down, and of course less susceptible to censorship by tyrannical governments … not to mention, less susceptible to some types of malware, since sites would be accessed ultimately by a crypto signature and not a plain Jane domain name. Making funny money with it never struck me as the important use. Making authenticated, but decentralized, edits to cloud documents by majority decision is far more significant. In some ways it would literally democratize the net. If you worry about the growing corporate stranglehold via such centralized silos as Facebook and Google, this should interest you. Unless, of course, it won’t work…

Dormousing_it
Dormousing_it
2 years ago

@Full Metal Ox:

No, you’re not being rude. He was converting to Judaism. He’d married a Jewish woman, and I think her family insisted he convert. He didn’t have any real attachment to the religion he grew up with.

(A)utonomous Escapist
(A)utonomous Escapist
2 years ago

@Full Metal Ox: There’s also Phimosis, a fairly common issue where there is no elasticity in the foreskin, where a circumcission is the usual remedy. My brother had it done when he was around 20, it was a very unpleasant healing period.

Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
2 years ago

@Surplus: I think I remember reading somewhere that there is also a worry about what is contained in the blockchain. Anything could be in there, and not knowing about it isn’t a defense if it’s something awful like child porn. (Or links to child porn?)

Ah, here’s an article about that.

Flora
Flora
2 years ago

I’m healthcare worker with an interest in sexual health, so I see a lot of flaccid penises.
1) they are not interesting.
2) as people have said, there’s really not dramatic variation. Especially in the context I see them where people are tense and kind of cold.
3) it is so toxic to base your self worth around your sexual characteristics. The desire and ability for sexual acts can change over a lifetime. This is normal. People are asexual/demisexual. This is normal. Aspiring to be as horny as a stereotypical teenager, having as much sex as a stereotypical undergrad, with the prowess of someone mature, doesn’t just set you up for failure, it basically doesn’t exist. Normal healthy sex is the sort of safer sex that makes you and your partner(s), if any, satisfied. The normal amount of sex is the amount you (and any partners) consent to have. The things you like/dislike about sex are healthy and normal as long as everyone consents and you are doing things as safely as is reasonable. People are different. I wish sex Ed at least taught this.

kupo
kupo
2 years ago

OT, but in another thread someone (I think Mish?) posted about that comedian who was murdered and I came across this tweet about it.
https://twitter.com/Ahhmandah/status/1014601507394555904

Paradoxical Intention - Resident Cheeseburger Slut

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee | July 3, 2018 at 6:21 pm
If incels had a speck of self-awareness, they’d look at the post and start to gain a little understanding of what it’s like to constantly be evaluated based on a secondary sex characteristic that you have little or no control over. Alas, we all know they don’t.

Yup. Remember kids, when it comes to incels the mantra is “It’s only okay when we do it to people we don’t like”.

j | July 4, 2018 at 1:19 pm
Is it true that feminists men are more often predators than the ‘general’ man? Kinda curious. I won’t lie, I find the behavior of the ‘all in’ guys to be kinda strange.

There are a lot of predators in feminist spaces, and it’s a reason why a lot of feminist women are so leery about men in said spaces. It got around a while back that being a “feminist” was a great in-road to getting laid in the wrong types of circles (see people like that douchebag Roosh V), and spread the idea that all you had to do to be a “feminist” was to say you think women are equal and pander to them for a bit, and watch the panties drop.

Then there are people like Joss Whedon who will say they’re “feminist” and do the bare minimum effort to appear so, but then will turn around and do shitty misogynistic things, but claim it’s okay because they’re a “feminist”. (See: People who claim that scantily-clad women in media is TOTES feminist because she’s flaunting her sexuality, or dudes who think that you’re “not really a feminist” if you don’t send them nudes, or men who seem to think that feminism means “I’ll fuck any dude who asks because I want to be sexually promiscuous”.)

Nowadays, a lot of feminists and feminist-leaning people are really onto the bullshit. Personally, I find that if you ask a man to identify as a “feminist ally” rather than just a “feminist”, his answer can be rather telling of his reasoning for wanting the title.

If he gets super defensive and demands to be called a feminist, then you know he’s not there for the right reasons. He’s most likely there to appear like a “good dude” and for the adoration that comes with it, and not because he’s actually fighting for the cause as it were. Depending on the severity of his reaction, you might be able to explain to him why feeling that way just undermines the reasons he’s claiming to be there.

If he understands and goes along with it, it’s a sign that he might be a guy who’s actually concerned with feminist issues and is willing to listen to women, instead of putting his ego first.

It’s not a full-proof plan, but in my experience it does help spot a likely douchebag.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

That guy is definitely an MRA too. Not as in has MRA type views. He’s a literal MRA and cited that as one of the reasons he vandalized Eurydice Dixon’s grave.

kupo
kupo
2 years ago

He also said he did it because he was upset that vaccines caused the killer’s autism. So he’s all flavors of asshole mixed into one flaky white shell.

j
j
2 years ago

@Paradoxical Intention

I’m not surprised and then again, very surprised. In MRA-leaning spaces I used to haunt it was very common to hold feminist men in the highest suspicion. “He parrots feminist axioms so he can screw cute girls who want to save the planet.” Some MRA’s though will use anything as proof that feminist are ball busters so all accusations about feminists are taken with a grain of salt.

Speaking of…

Male circumcision isn’t a serious issue. (since I saw people bringing it up) I mean it is, sure, since boys have had their penises cut off by mistake somehow, but it’s so easy to fix. Just, uh, stop it? Kinda like the domestic abuse thing, I never understood why it’s so important to push that men are abused in equal magnitude by our spouses. We’re not.

I just get so frustrated with the petty selfish BS. Meanwhile, a commander in Iraq is KNOWN to keep boys, sometimes younger than twelve, around as his slave sexual playthings and the US military still works with him. But no we gotta talk about rich men having to pay their ex wives spousal support.

(A)utonomous Escapist
(A)utonomous Escapist
2 years ago

@Paradoxical Intention: Just for clarification, what kinds of feminist spaces has this occurred in, if you don’t mind sharing a bit more?

DawnPurityseeker
DawnPurityseeker
2 years ago

Re: Circumcision

It always irritates me when menist types try to claim intactivism in the Western world as a men’s rights issue. Correct me if I’m wrong, but where exactly in the Western world are adult men being circumcised against their will?

Intactivism in the West is a child’s rights issue. Which is partially why so many good feminists are in fact intactivists.

Z&T
Z&T
2 years ago

@ Katamount,

“Oh yeah, and Happy Independence Day from the great white north, American Mammotheers!”

Hey. Hoser 🙂 From the Miami of Canada (chi), nice Tocque 🙂

Eh?

Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
2 years ago

@kupo, wwth,

That guy is all kinds of revolting, for sure. And today we have media people arguing that this is all feminism’s fault – apparently if it weren’t for feminism, we wouldn’t have toxic masculinity. The hating of the menz causes them to become womz-haters.

Does this ‘logic’ sound at all familiar, anyone?

http://p.fod4.com/p/media/48aebbb9f0/UGcNNsWzQfvhtNfRjmH0_8B4Xkf8xToWyeokdkaea_eyeroll-gif-cover.jpg

Jake Hamby
Jake Hamby
2 years ago

@Surplus:

If there is a problem with the actual bona-fide technology, rather than just with various misapplications of either it or merely its name, I’d like to know about it. Because it seemed recently to me to show great promise as the potential base for a truly decentralized net — no central name authorities, all static content retrievable by file hash regardless of whether any particular web server happens to be down, and of course less susceptible to censorship by tyrannical governments … not to mention, less susceptible to some types of malware, since sites would be accessed ultimately by a crypto signature and not a plain Jane domain name. Making funny money with it never struck me as the important use. Making authenticated, but decentralized, edits to cloud documents by majority decision is far more significant.

I think the problems with blockchain have to do with people thinking it can solve problems it can’t actually solve, and with people trying to make funny money with it, as you put it. Merkle trees are the basis for BitTorrent’s file verification as well as for Bitcoin ledgers and related tech.

Your vision of a decentralized world is admirable and I think we need to agree on new mesh technologies to replace (or layer on top of) the centralized, for-profit, corporate-controlled, government-monitored Internet. Blockchain may be one way to solve problems like non-repudiation (saying or agreeing to something, then later saying someone impersonated you). But do humans even want that?

I’d be happy with something more like the old BBS days (or the comments section on this very site), where bad comments can be deleted, or misspellings edited, and the site doesn’t exist by virtue of some automated consensus algorithm (how do you stop people from cheating the vote, or do they get one vote per coin, and how is that fair?), but by a benevolent dictator.

Sometimes the dictator isn’t so benevolent, and you get something like the Linux kernel mailing list, where it’s okay to belittle other people if you don’t like their code, because Linus doesn’t care. These are issues of human nature that the software has to be designed to accommodate.

Sprinkling blockchain on a hard problem that involves human nature doesn’t make it easier. I think that’s why a lot of people are wary of those who get too into the blockchain religion. There’s also the electricity consumption for mining BTC & other cryptocurrencies, which is a major design flaw, with climate change becoming an increasingly important issue.

My blockchain-loving friends say that private blockchains don’t have to suffer from that specific problem, so that’s probably the most promising of its uses. Blockchain for supply chain management is a big thing, and those companies by definition have a trust relationship with each other, but it’s still a helpful way to solve the problem technically. But that doesn’t have the same cyberpunk cool factor as the original, planet-heating cybercurrency that people use to buy illegal things with, not realizing that the cops can see that ledger just as anyone else can (it’s the account #’s that may or may not be mappable to real-life people).

So where it’s the most workable, it’s the least sexy, and a lot of people who are attracted to tech buzzwords want to make a lot of money, so they seem to be trying to solve the least workable problems, chasing geek cred. That’s why people are cynical. But you’re totally right that the core technology isn’t snake oil. It’s what people try to build with it that may or may not be.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

I’m not sure if this is the right thread, it might be the female author one, but I’d like to thank whoever recommended the Netflix Hannah Gadsby: Nanette special. I just watched it. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a more powerful hour of comedy. I laughed plenty, that’s nothing new. But this might be the first time stand up comedy made me cry. Can’t recommend this enough. Watch it as soon as possible. Then also watch the other new comedy special on Netflix, W Kamau Bell: Private School Negro. Also great.

Skylalalalalalala
Skylalalalalalala
2 years ago

I get that most intactivism is just thinly-veiled anti-Semitism, but bloody hell.

No, just no. Unless you mean in incel circles, and then you may be right, but I’ve never met an anti-Semitic intactivist in actual intactivist circles and I’ve been in many groups for many years. If they exist, they’re hiding it really well.

However, the notion that intactivists have that mothers circumcise because they want their sons to get laid more as an adult is ridiculous.

I’ve seen actual posts from actual mothers with pretty much that exact reasoning as to why they had their baby boy circumcised, actually. Although, most common (but still related) is “Uncut pensies are gross”. Which is disturbing in it’s own way, because you’re not going to be having sex with your son, so what does it matter what his penis looks like?

OT If anyone can clue me in on how to quote people with their names in the quotes without having to try (& mostly fail due to some serious memory problems) to remember who posted it, I’d really appreciate it.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

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Pie
Pie
2 years ago

@occasional reader

Hmm, and he has probably missed the course about ultrasounds ? Maybe he confounds it with MRI ? I mean, ultrasounds can not allow you to detect something throught something else.

I’ve seen a few pictures of unborn children that suggests that ultrasound can indeed show things that are Hidden in something else. I suspect almost all the energy gets reflected by a big change in density though, so ultrasound in air would probably bounce off clothing rather than penetrating it far enough to allow what’s underneath. It would probably work just fine in a swimming pool, though. Millimeter wave radar would work, but no-one has made one phone sized yet…

Anyway, the real incel dystopian future would be when they all realize that guys with average and small genitals can, in fact, get girls and that the failure of incels is still not down to their body, but the fact that they’re horrible people.

Pie
Pie
2 years ago

@Surplus

A quick skim over those headlines suggests that he doesn’t have a problem with blockchain per se, but rather with a whole host of scammers and fly-by-nights appropriating the terminology as a marketing buzzword.

These are all good reasons not to use the word “blockchain”. If nothing else, it is often used to mean the blockchains that are the basis of bitcoin or ethereum (or some other cryptocurrency) which is a terrible thing to build a new technology upon.

If there is a problem with the actual bona-fide technology, rather than just with various misapplications of either it or merely its name, I’d like to know about it. Because it seemed recently to me to show great promise as the potential base for a truly decentralized net —

None of the things you’ve listed require blockchains. Other, older, adequate technologies exist, they’re just not new and cool and made of techbro libertarian boners.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
2 years ago

@ pie

None of the things you’ve listed require blockchains. Other, older, adequate technologies exist

Some of the techbros have been advocating for the use of blockchain based “Smart Contracts” in some commercial law transactions. However people have raised some queries. I won’t bore you with the technical details, but the end result was effectively: “So what you’re saying is, that with a number of major modifications we could incorporate blockchain into the process and it would be only marginally less efficient and safe than the system that’s been in place since 1925?”

ETA: Basically even with blockchain, it would still be necessary for humans to speak to each other and original documents to be physically transferred, and we’ve been able to do that since the invention of the telephone and post boxes.

j
j
2 years ago

@weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Glad I have the day off from work because I stayed up to 5a.m. watching that special twice over and replaying her stories. I thought the comedy was decent but the stories were indeed powerful. Easily the best personal piece I’ve heard on stand-up.

Gaebolga
Gaebolga
2 years ago

weirwoodtreehugger wrote:

I also doubt that very many women would dump a bepenised partner for being uncircumcised. I’m sure there are a few out there, but I’ve never heard of it.

Well, I can provide some anecdotal evidence in support of your claim: I’m uncircumcised, and I have never been dumped because of that fact, nor have any of my sexual partners had a negative reaction because of it.

The closest thing was one woman who was a bit concerned that she wouldn’t know what to do because she’d never been with an uncircumcised partner before, but her concern didn’t last for more than a few seconds…after all, it’s not like a foreskin makes penises radically different.

…plus, I’m going to steal the term “bepenised partner,” just fyi.