By David Futrelle
You may worry about your country descending into chaos, or turning into a fascist hellhole, or even a bit of both. But when incels imagine the future they have much more specific concerns. Oddly specific, you might say.
Over on Incels.me, one paranoid commenter conjures up what for him is evidently the most nightmarish future dystopia he can imagine: One in which women can use sonar technology to check out penis size at a distance.
In a thread titled, with typical incel melodrama, “[SuicideFuel] In 2030, it will be absolutely over for dicklets” — dudes with tiny dicks — a fellow called Cuckcel offers his dire warning.
Incel dudes, when women look at you the first thing that pops into their mind isn’t “small dick.” It’s “huge asshole,” because that’s what you are.
Okay obviously this is not data but in my lived experience, me personally and most of my friends anywhere on the gender spectrum who are sexually attracted to men and have a reasonably high amount of sexual experience can generally tell not exactly how big a man’s dick is but can give a reasonable estimate. Like it’s not like you meet a dude at a party, chill with him for a few hours and you’re like oh his dick is eight and a half inches long or his dick is 4 and 3/4 inches long, cuz that would be ridiculous LOL.
Personally, I would say I’ve been right with my speculation about 80% of the time and this is referring to about 30 men. Most of them I didn’t have full-blown intercourse with but we hooked up with to the point of me seeing their penis(usually oral sex, since I’m absolutely terrified of getting pregnant. I would never sleep with someone that I was not in a serious relationship with because I am a lapsed Catholic. I’m fully pro-choice but I don’t know if I could personally go through with an abortion. I don’t think it’s murder at all, but it is objectively killing something and I don’t even kill mice that are in my house. I catch them safely and set them free in the park. At least if I got pregnant with my primary partner he knows how I feel about this I can’t imagine discussing this with a stranger while already pregnant. Sorry for the tangent, everyone knows it’s a bad habit of mine)
So I would say the statement has some truth to it but it’s obviously a generality and I honestly could tell you a couple signs but it’s mostly subconscious for me personally, Plus if you’ve only hooked up with a few people then it doesn’t seem to work. Obviously these are only the people I know which is definitely not a typical sample space. I don’t like the word normal but my friends are not what most people would consider typical or average, so maybe you need a specific point of view or something. I honestly don’t know I’m just guessing at this point.?
I hope everyone in America has a lovely fourth of July. Yeah it’s associated with patriotism which most people probably aren’t going very much of right now in the circles most people here run in but it’s still a holiday and holidays are nice. Good night all!
I think that j meant that he wouldn’t want to be with a partner who has a major hang-up about HIS body, not about her own.
Insecurities are a lot more “forgivable” (not that being insecure is something that people need forgiveness for, but I can’t think of a better term at the moment) than being a jerk about someone else’s body. A partner should be someone who makes you feel better in your life, not worse.
Sort of a “well, someone who is going to be an ass about my body’s ‘flaws’ isn’t someone I would want to be in a relationship with anyway, so I may as well stop worrying about people not wanting me because of said ‘flaw’.” deal is how I interpreted it.
Ah, perhaps I misread. Apologies.
I’m a little on a hair trigger about this stuff. The conflicting messages of “you’re hideous if you aren’t a size two with perfect hair and skin. Here are all the expensive and time consuming things you need to do to be allowed to show your face in public” and “be confident because confidence is sexy!” sort of drive me up the wall.
“The Jews took your foreskin”? What?
I get that most intactivism is just thinly-veiled anti-Semitism, but bloody hell.
@ Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
That was lovely. I shouldn’t have read it.
I will have to pick up that re-issue, though.
Hello.
Hmm, and he has probably missed the course about ultrasounds ? Maybe he confounds it with MRI ? I mean, ultrasounds can not allow you to detect something throught something else. So, unless in the future incel men decide to walk without clothes, an echolocation stuff will not be able to “size” the center of their life. Moreover, if there were so many echolocation devices, that would cause too much disturbance and make them far less reliable (and let us not speak of the serious damages it will cause to the wildlife).
Anyway, in their dystopian future, and due to their propensity to send dick pics, i was fearing they had imagined an app with only dick pics which women would (obviously) used to look for a date. At least, we have escaped this idea of elitist dating app…
Have a nice day.
What he’s forgetting is that this app will also measure wrist circumference, canthal tilt etc, and produce an overall SMV figure. So having a big dick won’t be enough.
Also… does he think that everyone who performs a circumcision is Jewish? Look, dude, if you’re worried about that, try sleeping in pyjamas made from bacon. That will repel the Jews who are trying to steal your foreskin.
There’s already been an augmented reality app (Blippar) which used facial recognition to overlay a person with details which they’ve made public. If ubiquitous AR becomes a thing (which I doubt), something like this seems more likely than dick-sonar, at least for people in the dating market. You’ll look at an incel and see a tag cloud, and immediately think “a Jordan Peterson fan who’s working on blockchain projects? No thanks”
I just don’t know how you would persuade a bat to care about the genital size of humans. I imagine you would be hot on the trail of some big-dicked incel, and then suddenly the bat is gorging itself on mosquitos, and you’re out of luck.
Then again, I’m somewhat staggered by the apparent assumption that women want an app that tells them when men with large penises are nearby. Like, you’re going to stop doing whatever you’re doing and go FIND this guy, who may be married, or gay, or trying to eat a pastrami sandwich in peace, and…what?
They really do think everyone but them is having sex randomly all over the place, don’t they?
Will there be an erection-projection-estimator add-on, or are people expected to naturally care about limp dick sizes ?
Off-topic, but of interest: Darwin Brazier just killed his ex-wife, her current husband, then himself. She begged for a permanent restraining order, but that didn’t work out. He had a history of threats of violence, but most of note were the likes on his FaceBook page: https://www.facebook.com/darwin.brazier/likes?collection_token=100000444422198%3A2409997254%3A96&next_cursor=MDpub3Rfc3RydWN0dXJlZDpBUUhSVFhwazZyMGlTdE83REcyZ2tLYnJkdlc1U1QyYzZzWVVXQXlBZVVBTE5nYWRXYmQ5ZXZsUjc5bGNnX2xIU0JOTFNvT3hHaC1yNW1PM19jQ2tQT3d6VEE%3D (OK, I need to learn how to make links better.)
So this latest post-divorce domestic violence murderer ‘liked’ the pages of Donald Trump, Duck Dynasty, Ted Nugent, “Americans Against Maxine Waters”, “Hillary Clinton Sucks”, and a WHOLE LOTTA Fathers’ Rights pages. Although his timeline just shows photos of him and his kids (which is rather sweet), his ‘likes’ show a nasty man who hates women. I hope someone who knows what they’re doing shines light on the connection between so-called Fathers’ Rightsers and post-relationship violence.
I’m amused, since locally “bat” is a slang term for lesbian. (totally coincidental to Batgirl being lesbian, which is also amusing in this context)
Anyway, if women were that much size obsessed, they’d likely just use a baseball bat.
I’m asexual, aromantic and never had sex in my life.
But from what I have heard other people say I gather that circumference matters more than length.
And that technique is way more important than size…
So, having a humiliation fetish of this nature is surprisingly common, and writing sci fi about your sexual fantasies is not wrong in itself. Just like fantasies of being cuckolded, or dominated by cruel and mocking women, or financially dominated, or having one’s sperm treasured as liquid gold.
But why, oh, why must the sadlings of the manosphere insist on
1. Believing their own wank fantasies are the foundation of all female psychology?
2. Constructing elaborate and contradictory political ideologies from said fantasies?
3. Hating actual women because the women in their fantasies behave in a way that turns them on?
Why can’t Mr Cuckcel just post his little story on a forum where men who get off on being humiliated over their (allegedly) small genitalia congregate, for the pleasure of his fellows?
@Moggie:
You think there’s something wrong with working on blockchain projects?
@Podkayne Lives:
Consider that these are the sorts of men who respond to big boobs by stopping doing whatever they’re doing, going to this woman, who may be married, or gay, or trying to eat a pastrami sandwich in peace, and then pestering her … or worse.
@Alan
Oh god, I must have seen those 15 seconds 110 times and it still makes me laugh
Posters: when are you going to realise that men care about penis size a hell of a lot more than most women??
I do not give one shit how big a guy is. I care about whether I’m attracted to him.
@Alan
<3
Father Ted is one of the few series I can think of that still makes me laugh even after seeing many of the episodes several times. The gem-to-notGem ratio is high.
ETA and in the case of these specific dicks, of course, the farther away the better …
@Alan Robertshaw, Weatherwax et al.: Disappointing how Father Ted writer/producer Graham Linehan has gone full TERF, though.
I would rather fuck twenty insecure dudes with tiny dicks than a single smug guy with a big one. Sex involving large penises has mostly been a painful experience for me. As have smug men.
I wouldn’t fuck twenty dudes, no hetero, but if I had to choose.
Quoted for truth. Maybe these incels are walking around with permanent boners – this wouldn’t surprise me, actually – but with most men under most circumstances the data would be literally meaningless.
I’m entirely averagely endowed and tend to favour partners who are pretty experienced and sexually outspoken, and not once has any of them even so much as mentioned it as an issue. (I’m pretty sure I’d have remembered if they had, and most likely quite vividly.) But two of them have reminisced about trying to have sex with someone who was very generously proportioned, and neither of them seems to have enjoyed the experience much – because like many men with massive schlongs, they’d been conditioned to think that that was all that was necessary, and to hell with actual technique.
@Citerior Motive
Yeah, I’ve been following that particular trainwreck on Twitter (at a distance, mostly). Ew.
@Kat
@Vucodlak
That Shirley Manson article … wow. The unseen sorrows and pains of other people 🙁
I’ll also be getting that re-issue. I love Garbage.
An average sized dick is average for a reason – it works best in tandem with the average vagina in straight sex. Giant dicks, in my experience, hurt far too much to want to go seeking one out.
I think everyone is missing the most important implication of this post. There’s apparently a huge untapped market of dudes who are afraid that women will be able to x-ray vision their schlong size at 50 paces. Mark up some athletic cups and claim that they have special lining that makes them impervious to scanning technology (or, if you’re more inclined to put more effort in, make some kind of dick cover designed to make the dick look bigger during the “scanning”), and you can make a killing!
This tech will really help that one troll from a ways back who was very, very into the idea of a penis-hierarchy.
Ok I was a real slut in my youth and I’ve seen my fair share of penises. And in my experience… size usually doesn’t vary that much? Or what do any other slutty lady or gay/bi man in here think? I mean, sure, size varies a bit, but not as much as a lot of men seem to think? I think maybe there’s greater variation when they’re flaccid and it evens out a little bit when they go erect, and so straight dudes who mostly see other penises in the shower at the gym therefore gets the idea that there’s more variance than there is.
But yeah, some people are outliers and like some other people in this thread I’ve also had the experience of sleeping with a guy who had a way larger than average one… And we had good sex, we did, but it’s still not optimal with a really large one. Because although a vagina is stretchy, it’s not a freaking Tardis! There’s actually a limit to how much space there is down there.