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Incels embrace Capital Gazette shooter — but only after they learn he harassed a woman

They put out a damn paper the next day

By David Futrelle

Several hours after the news broke that a gunman had shot five people dead at the Capital Gazette newspaper offices in Annapolis, Maryland, but before we knew much of anything about the shooter himself, I took a look at the forums on Incels.me to see if anyone on the site was saying anything about this latest mass killing.

Incels, after all, have an almost reflexive tendency to praise or excuse anyone who kills a high enough number of the “normies” incels consider their sworn enemies, and many of them worship incel mass killer Elliot Rodger as a virtual saint.

But no one there seemed much interested in this particular killer. “[P]rolly some political kind of shit given that it’s a newspaper,” wrote someone called mutant in a not-very-busy thread on the topic,  “really it’s only normals who care about left v right.”

Several hours later, we learned that the Annapolis shooter’s anger at the media — and at the Capital Gazette — had its roots in the newspaper’s coverage of his conviction for harassing a former high-school classmate on Facebook. Though she didn’t remember going to school with him, she told the paper, she tried to be nice because it seemed like he was having a rough time. But he quickly turned on her, allegedly bombarding her with threats and trying to get her fired from her job. Ultimately, the future shooter pleaded guilty to pleaded guilty to one count of harassment — and then started directing his ire at the Capital Gazette for having the gall to write about his case in a way he thought was unfair. (A court disagreed, dismissing his defamation suit against the paper.)

Well, this bit of news woke the murder fans on Incels.me right up, and soon they were hailing the Capital Gazette shooter as a new hero.

“Praise the saint,” wrote someone called JeffGoldblumInTheFly.

“When will he be canonised?” asked AfrikanCel.

“The newspaper was bullying him for being incel and Jarrod Ramos stood up to his bullies,” added incel4life. ” Jarrod Ramos is a hero.”

“Bless His Heart,” agreed doktordoom, “death to the media.”

A few of the commenters wondered if their new hero had managed to kill any “femoids” — that is, women — in his rampage.

“Did he score at least one femoid frag?” asked the aptly named evildoer.

In fact, he killed two women. “I don’t condone shootings,” noted someone called Jackson14, “but anyways looking at the victims one was a Stacy.”

This last assertion proved somewhat controversial, because the possible “Stacy” in question was a bit older than most incels consider ideal. “Maybe Stacy from 30 years ago,” grumbled Notgoingtomakeit.

“Come on man you don’t think she is hot?” Jackson14 asked.

Not everyone on the incels.me forums considers Ramos a saint, though. Someone called AR15 was unimpressed with his body count. “Weak score tbh,” he sniffed.

Others were unimpressed with his looks. “Homeboy look like a Lamb Of God tribute act :lul: ,” wrote one. “He legit looks like an egg.” added another.

Somehow I suspect that all the “sex redistribution” in the world wouldn’t transform any of these guys into actual decent people. It would just put more women at risk.

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Satan is God
Satan is God
6 years ago

it’s not an “empathy disorder” so give me a fucking break. it’s your standard run-of-the-mill misogyny/sexism/anti-feminism run amok. this is the logical extreme of modern misogyny. the idea of the stacey and the chad are completely rooted in western media.

lkeke35
lkeke35
6 years ago

Just wanted to leave this article here, about Women Going Their Own Way! Notice the kind of shit these women ARE NOT doing! (Obsessing about what men are doing and fantasizing about hurting and killing them.) This is how you “Go Your Own Way”! Women choose to be solitary all the time, and don’t become assholes when they do.

https://www.curbed.com/2018/6/20/17479740/living-alone-tips-women-advice

And this article from The Atlantic, analyzing the reaction from men, to stories about male sexual assault. The author gets right to the heart of the issue. When men harass women about “whataboutism” on issues of sexism, it’s not because they’re concerned about men. They’re just saying it to shut women up.

So far, from what I’ve seen, women are the only ones rallying around Terry Crews and giving him their love and support. (I’m sure there a few men, but they’re not very vocal.) Most men who’ve had anything to say about this issue (especially black men) have mostly engaged in a nauseating spectacle of violent machismo, homophobia, sexism, and rape protectionism.

I also object to the idea that the person with the most commentary on it is 50 Cent! I mean really! He had the nerve to go online and disparage the World Treasure that is Terry Crews, who makes ten of him. C’mon, now! 50 Cent has all of the depth of a two inch dishpan, and just about as smart.

https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2018/06/terry-crews-and-the-discomfort-of-masculine-anxiety/564047/

lkeke35
lkeke35
6 years ago

Paradoxical Intention; dalilama:

Essentially They want POWER! They want the power they’ve been promised their entire lives by history, all the media they’ve consumed, politicians, tv ads, parents, peers…

This is totally tied into that racist aspect of white men having been constantly sold the lie that they are the kings of the earth. They’re angry because not only did they discover they were lied to, but they totally bought the lie, and have no idea what to replace the lie with, having never been given any other template for how to be a White man, other than the template of “ White, male, straight = power”.

Another thing I’ve noticed, is these men are the kind who’ve never had a thought of any critical depth their entire damn life. They’ve never questioned anything. Ever. Never dived beneath the surface of all the bullshit floating at the top of American society.

I’m reminded of something I noticed in the tv show, American Gods. Shadow Moon, after he meets Wednesday, doesn’t have any more contact with normal human beings. He only interacts with the Gods, and has a hard time holding onto his sanity, because he has no one normal to touch base with, about the unnatural things he’s witnessing, or reaffirm what is normal living.

Incels interact with each other like that to constantly affirm that the bill of goods that was sold to them is true, and real. In none of the conversations you will see them have, does anyone ever bother to question the narratives they e been given. It’s all surface stuff. All affirmation.

Oh yeah, if you have Netflix, check out Nannette by Hannah Gadsby. It’s very possible one of the funniest, heart wrenching standups I’ve ever watched (next to Patton Oswalt’s reaccount of his wife’s death.) A tour de force of a standup comedy routine.

Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
6 years ago

In short, incels are another bunch of suckers unwilling to admit to themselves that they got scammed.

(A)utonomous Escapist
(A)utonomous Escapist
6 years ago

@Passagère Clandestine: I’m sad to say, there most likely are online-active “incels”, basically no matter where in the world you are. They may be active on english-language-forums, they may have their own communities, but it’s unlikely that they are not present in some way.

Curiously, I’m reminded of what were probably proto-incels on skateboard messageboards in the early 2000’s, including pictures and gifs celebrating the Columbine-shooters all the while being virulently bigoted, entitled white males. Most of the online harassers and bullies were present there in a proto-form, and they were in no way substantially different from the Trumpsters, the MGTOWayers, the gamergaters, the conspiracy theorists, the alt-right… Present and vocal amongst all the others who were not these things.

Also, why must that one commenter drag Jeff Goldblum into this? Is nothing sacred to these swine?