Reddit’s TheDonald is losing it over the Miss America pageant dropping the swimsuit competition

It would make more sense to just stop with the whole embarrassing thing, don’t you think?

Will a nerd now win Miss America?

There’s a good chance one already has, although I don’t follow it enough to know for sure. But my point being that you can be conventionally attractive and nerdy at the same time. I do remember from the times in the distant past that I’ve watched it, there were plenty of contestants studying in STEM fields. I mean, I’m not defending the organization at all. Beauty pageants are problematic in ways I do not need to point to anyone here. That does not mean that contestants and winners have all been bimbos.

Plus, I’m sure that the winners will still be conventionally attractive.

The ratings for Miss America have been down for many years now. It used to be a major prime time TV event when I was a kid. Now I think it’s on one of the cable stations that aren’t included in the more basic packages. The reactionaries that hang out in the darker corners of the internet might not think so, but it seems to me that the general public has come around to the more feminist point of view on pageants. That they’re shallow, objectifying and outdated. It seems to me like this was a good business decision. Whether it will revive the event I don’t know, but they had to make some change.

The SJWs forget that humans have three components – mind, body, and soul.

Maybe it’s time we started having soul pageants.

@Moggie

I do something similar. I remember only a year or two ago, when hearing about Ms. America (probably something having to do with Trump), I was legitimately surprised it still existed. I couldn’t remember having heard about it for years.

My senior year of HS, we had a general geeks, punks, nerds and dweebs revolt, and pushed hard until we elected one of our Super Nerd Queens homecoming queen. She was an immigrant, and wore a gorgeous formal sari and her coke bottle glasses. Never been prouder of my tribe!

@Moggie

The advertisers? 😛

On the point “will a nerd win miss America contest” the answer is fairly simple. Pretty much all of them since the mid 90’s. Miss America is scholarship pageant. To be a contestant, one must want and be elligible for college. This means that all contestants have in the upper tier in terms of academic grades. This could make them “nerds” in the wide sense of the term (AKA someone good at school). The reason they have the reputation to be stupid is due to the fact they are asked stupid question and about 7 seconds to answer them, so of course the answer is always to be a complete cliché. Everybody would sound stupid in such circumstances.

Anyone think Jared Leto is the next to go down in the Me Too flames now that he’s getting his own Joker movie?

There’s all sorts of rumors that he does kink stuff without permission fro one night stands and that he goes after underage girls. It’s been strange to me that he hasn’t been part of the perv purges yet.

He was only good in the My So Called Life days anyway. Leave him in the 90’s where he belongs.

Anyone think Jared Leto is the next to go down in the Me Too flames now that he’s getting his own Joker movie?

I’m waiting for any white het actor to go down in those flames, really.

Miss America is less than 100 years old, if I recall correctly. And has steadily been losing cultural currency for at least the last 50 of those, too. The idea that a bathing-suit pageant is some kind of “cultural icon” is laughable when you consider the actual history of it, and the fact that it was considered immoral by traditionalists when it first began in the 1920s. A mere 40ish years after that, feminists smelled the already-stale blood in the water, rightly pegged the pageant’s rigid beauty standard (and the impossible amount of grooming it required) as oppressive, and demonstrated against it by tossing bras and girdles into garbage cans in Atlantic City while it was on. This protest was later mischaracterized as a “bra-burning”, which it wasn’t. But later, just such a demo was in fact staged by an antifeminist man who hired models to act as his fake feminist demonstrators in an effort to ridicule the valid, original feminist protest. (The false image of “bra-burning women’s libbers”, alas, caught on…and not just among the antis.) The pageant has had to do all kinds of twists and turns to maintain a semblance of relevance in a world where women kept proving that their looks weren’t everything, hence the scholarship program. And on and on it limped, with women forever questioning its continued existence while the men just ogled and drooled and traded slimy speculations on what they’d like to do to Miss Wherever. Nobody, I daresay, was fooled by the talent part, or the sugary responses to questions on how the contestants would change the world. Nobody gave a shit. It was all about the near-nudity on heels, and who “wore” it best.

And now, at long last, swimsuit competitions are finally being declared obsolete? What the hell TOOK them so long?

And of course, the menzers are whining, because they’re being denied one eensy, weensy, conservative, antiquated bit of trophy-women-on-display objectification. OH THE HUMANITY! HOWEVER WILL THEIR PENISES SURVIVE THE ONSLAUGHT??? MISANDRY!!!!!

Potatosurplus is on to me. I would definitely like a genderless society, or rather a society where there are no gender roles and where individuals have total freedom of gender expression.

@Ariblester
Given the context of #MeToo, I didn’t think I needed to specify that I was talking about men. And, as far as I am aware, no het white man who has an on-screen presence has yet faced any career consequences from #MeToo. It beggars belief that none of these men are sexually predatory, but their fame and straight flush of privilege have so far shielded all of them.