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Sex, Pies and Video Games: A revealing clip from UK reality show Age Gap Love

By David Futrelle

Looks like I’ve found a new show to watch!

Some couples are able to navigate the various perils of “age-gap” romance and build healthy relationships. But I’m not exactly feeling confident about these particular couples. 

The show in question is available on Netflix (or at least one season of it is); it features various sorts of age-gap couples (older women, younger man; older man, younger women; older man, younger man; not sure if there are any lesbian couples). I’m going to have to watch an episode or two.

A NOTE ABOUT THE HEADLINE: Look, I know there weren’t any actual pies featured in the clip, but, come on, these are Brits. Obviously they will be eating pies at some point.

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PeeVee the Tired
PeeVee the Tired
2 years ago

Well. Um. Okay.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
2 years ago

but, come on, these are Brits. Obviously they will be eating pies at some point.

Hey! I haven’t eaten a pie since….well ok, today doesn’t provide my best counter argument; or yesterday come to that; or indeed…hmm.

But if you’d said this on Wednesday I could be rightly outraged.

Bina
2 years ago

I’d rather have a younger man than an older one, for sure. And an occasional video game, fine. But that much of a fixation on gaming is a hard pass for me, I’m afraid.

Pies, however, are always a go.

Z&T
Z&T
2 years ago

Are they trying to say that some men are looking for mother figures?
Not that there’s necessarily anything wrong with that.

I am a bit concerned that Fully Equipped Harold comes equipped with noose, cleaver, sword, and can of gasoline.

@ Bina,

I’m with you on the gaming. I do think I’m officially middle aged now, to me Vidya Games = Pac Man.

Bina
2 years ago

@Z & T:

I do think I’m officially middle aged now, to me Vidya Games = Pac Man.

Same here. And solitaire Mah Jongg. First-person shooters with 12-year-old macho-wannabes yelling sexist and racist slurs at you in your headset, I can cheerfully live without.

Z&T
Z&T
2 years ago

Semi related,

Self and elbow bending pals here are also (trying to) watch the show Bob’s Burgers. And this is like the fourth try.

Is this show supposed to be funny?

Just put the sound back on the tv and watched it for a solid five minutes.
Is this supposed to be funny? Or is it a drama? I thought it was billed as a comedy though.

No one is laughing here. It’s not just me then.
Friend: They must be going for boring and annoying, at the same time. Right, so maybe it’s supposed to be a drama, then?

Whatever it is, gah, pass.

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
2 years ago

Pong. That was my game. I’m not sure if the kids still play it.

For several years I had a relationship with a man who was 11 years younger than me (27 to my 38 when we met). It turns out that being younger than me — and being totally fine with that — doesn’t necessarily mean a man won’t be a sexist, manipulative jerk.

Ray of Rays
Ray of Rays
2 years ago

@ Z&T

Bob’s Burgers? It’s a comedy. If you’re not laughing, give it a pass.

Surprised you tried so much, though. I think it’s hilarious (the kids, at least), but if I didn’t, my policy’s usually to give up after a second attempt.

F is for 'Fro'
F is for 'Fro'
2 years ago

Whoa! The gamer dude made me feel attacked somehow. Haha

I have a game habit– but I also repair arcade cabinets and game consoles in my spare time– so it’s used productively.

…somewhat.

I’m not sure how long a relationship will last with that guy holing up in a room for hours like that, though.

That’s like addiction level stuff right there.

Violet the Vile, Wielder of an Ideologically Weaponized Vagina
Violet the Vile, Wielder of an Ideologically Weaponized Vagina
2 years ago

Did you have to mention pie? I’ve just woken up and I’m hungry. You know the word “pie” is like a Pavlov’s dog thing for Brits right?

Time to go find a pie man. I’m in London, so better make sure I don’t accidentally buy one full of eels or something (I ate jellied eels once to see what they were like and it was the worst thing I have ever had in my mouth)

Moggie
Moggie
2 years ago

It’s 11 a.m. here, which is pie o’clock. I’m having a veggie “steak” (quorn) pie. Not the best, but it’s all I have in the house. The pie man is late today.

Violet the Vile:

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Moggie
Moggie
2 years ago

In other news, Gab’s management are turning against their users: Conspiracy Theories Are Eating This Alt Right-Friendly Site From the Inside. When you launch a site aimed at attracting people too horrible even for Twitter, turns out that your users will give you trouble! Who could have foreseen this?

Gaebolga
Gaebolga
2 years ago

Z & T wrote:

I am a bit concerned that Fully Equipped Harold comes equipped with noose, cleaver, sword, and can of gasoline.

Not sure if you know this or not, but just in case you don’t: the picture is from a movie poster for the 1971 film Harold and Maude, which is about a death-obsessed young man who tries to fake his own suicide in a variety of ways (hence the implements of destruction he’s holding – his family is used to his antics, however, so they tend to ignore them at this point) and a much older but extremely vivacious woman who meet at a funeral and fall in love.

It’s actually a really good film, and a bit of a cult classic.

Pie
Pie
2 years ago

@Moggie

When you launch a site aimed at attracting people too horrible even for Twitter, turns out that your users will give you trouble! Who could have foreseen this?

Its a bunch of deep-state agitators deliberately trying to suppress free speech. Or gab itself is a false flag operation by the deep state. Probably both.

*reads the article*

My mistake, it is all the fault of the rootless cosmopolitans.

One bit of the article caught my eye, though.

Its user base, which includes plenty of innocuous accounts,

Really?

Moon Custafer
Moon Custafer
2 years ago

a much older but extremely vivacious woman

Maude’s sort of the original Manic Pixie Dream Girl, she just happens to also be seventy-nine.

Dvärghundspossen
Dvärghundspossen
2 years ago

Now I wanna watch Harold and Maude. Sounds cool.

Moon Custafer
Moon Custafer
2 years ago

Was trying to update my comment when it glitched — Maude’s the type of MPDG whose quirks are actually survival tactics and whose vivacity is hard-won; it’s not actually mentioned in the dialogue, but Harold and the audience see the number tattoo on her arm in one scene.

Dvärghundspossen
Dvärghundspossen
2 years ago

Have you guys been in relationships with big age gaps? Did the gap give you any problems?

I haven’t really. The biggest age gap I’ve had was when I dated a guy who was 28 when I was 21 and that’s hardly a huge gap. Also I briefly dated a 16-year-old girl when I was 20 which is a pretty noticeable gap at that age, even though it’s only four years. But that’s about it.

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
2 years ago

I also recommend watching Harold & Maude. It’s a heck of a film, and the wonderful Ruth Gordon is absolutely delightful.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
2 years ago

Speaking of poor Nazis being ‘victimised’ here’s one for Brit Mamotheers.

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Gaebolga
Gaebolga
2 years ago

My first real relationship was with one of my mother’s friends: she was 49 and I was 18. We went out for about a year, and in many ways it was very good for me, although in retrospect there are some…questionable aspects to it.

For example, our relationship started because she invited me out to coffee about a month after I turned 18 and very directly told me she wanted to sleep with me. Which is all fine and such, but if the genders were reversed, it would seem pretty creepy and predatory. In her defense, she’s known me for almost 10 years at that point and knew that subtlety and subtext were completely lost on me at that stage of my life, so the direct approach was the only one I’d be able to recognize.

She laid (yeah, yeah, but I didn’t intend it as a pun) the foundation of my understanding of both romantic relationships and sex, and I’m deeply grateful to her for doing such a good job on both fronts.

The only real problems we had weren’t directly related to our age gap; I was working on the wharf unloading the folishing boats, so our jobs’ hours were really incompatible (and I smelled like fish all the time, no matter how much I showered), but there was a definite differential in terms of power within the relationship. If she hadn’t moved across the country for her job and our relationship had continued for longer than a year, that might have evolved into an issue…or maybe not; I was completely in love with her and would have done anything for her (which brings up another troubling point; whenever I would say “I love you,” she would reply “oh you’re just saying that because you’re too young to know what it means.” That always bothered me, even then, and it does moreso now, although it’s possible it was an expression of her own self doubt.).

MrsObedMarsh
MrsObedMarsh
2 years ago

Never actually seen Bob’s Burgers, but apparently the show took a season to find its stride. Maybe try a season 2 episode?

Captain Marsh and I both like some video games, just different ones. (Most of the time – we both played Life Is Strange.) As with any hobby, I think it’s fine as long as you don’t neglect vital aspects of your life or become an asshole gatekeeper.

Gaebolga
Gaebolga
2 years ago

Moon Custafer wrote:

Maude’s sort of the original Manic Pixie Dream Girl

I never thought of that before, but you’re absolutely right!

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
2 years ago

Bit more Hopkins humiliation.

https://www.thecanary.co/trending/2018/05/31/katie-hopkins-took-to-twitter-for-legal-advice-it-didnt-end-well/

For US Mammotheers, this may also provide some context as to why Roseanne Barr’s tweets in support of ‘Tommy Robinson’ were essentially pro (literal) Nazi.

Violet the Vile, Wielder of an Ideologically Weaponized Vagina
Violet the Vile, Wielder of an Ideologically Weaponized Vagina
2 years ago

@Moggie

There’s a whole Eel Island?! I must find out where it is, so I never accidentally go there

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
2 years ago

I used to Iive near a traditional pie and mash shop, so I thought I’d give the whole jellied eel pie thing a go. I worked on the assumption that it would be one of those things that sounds horrible, but is probably very nice in real life.

How wrong I was.

Moon Custafer
Moon Custafer
2 years ago

Eel Pie Island! I only know about it because the inventor of the wind-up radio used to live there and he mentioned it in an interview (I think he described the place as “fifty drunks clinging to a mud flat.”)

Dvärghundspossen
Dvärghundspossen
2 years ago

@Gaebolga: Yeah as you say yourself some parts of that do sound a little.. uh… questionable. And yet I respect that it was a nice experience for you. Life is complicated like that sometimes.

Moggie
Moggie
2 years ago

Moon Custafer:

Eel Pie Island! I only know about it because the inventor of the wind-up radio used to live there and he mentioned it in an interview (I think he described the place as “fifty drunks clinging to a mud flat.”)

Less drunks than there used to be, though. The old hotel used to be a popular live music venue in the 1960s, and got quite rowdy because of the alcohol.

Bina
2 years ago

Let’s see: I’ve had a couple of older boyfriends, and felt there was an insurmountable gap between them and me, even when the actual years between me and the one were only three…and a couple of younger ones, where I saw a bit of a gap, but it didn’t seem to matter nearly so much. None of them were really formative experiences for me, though, since most of my real ones happened when I was completely alone. I guess that’s what makes me one of those women who likes having a guy in her life, and would love to have one to share it with, but doesn’t NEED one to “complete me”, as the awful saying goes.

As for Gab and Hatie Hopkins both having meltdowns: Gosh, who’d of thunk that those who make hay off of hate end up getting mown down by it themselves? HAHAHAHAHAHA!

(Also, agreeing with everyone who commented on Harold and Maude…that is one of the all-time cutest, sweetest and happy-saddest movies ever. You wouldn’t think a relationship between a morbid young guy and a life-loving lady old enough to be his grandma would work, but it does.)

Dalillama
Dalillama
2 years ago

hiWhen I was ~20 I dated someone who was IIRC 38 when it started. We separated a few years later due to differing feelings on monogamy. We remained friends until I learned enough dogwhistles to realise how racist she was. Also her transphobia was comong out. Last I knew she was hanging out at 4chan. Age wasn’t really an issue though.

Dormousing_it
Dormousing_it
2 years ago

My husband is 12 years older than me. I realize this is a cliche, but I married a person, not an age.

I used to wonder if I’d perhaps missed out on an important part of my development, not ever being in a romantic relationship with a man or boy my own age. My husband assures me I have not.😁

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Alan,

Just don’t send Piers Morgan back here to the US. We already told you we didn’t want him. He’s your problem now!

I would consider trading him for Sean Hannity, but that’s about it.

Violet the Vile, Wielder of an Ideologically Weaponized Vagina
Violet the Vile, Wielder of an Ideologically Weaponized Vagina
2 years ago

@Alan

I don’t know who the hell eats jellied eels. It was just…the worst

Teriyaki eel, on the other hand, is delicious

Otrame
Otrame
2 years ago

Bina et al. in re video games

The family that plays together stays together. My eldest son met his current wife online playing World of Warcraft (they met in the old flight tower in Orgimar—he had just joined her guild and she was one of the guild leaders). They played together for several years, liked each other a lot, got a chance to meet, and that was pretty much all they needed to decide. They’ve been married for more than 10 years now, have been through some rough stuff, but they are still playing together. A friend of theirs painted a picture of that old flight tower for them (it’s been gone a long time in the game), and they have it on the wall in their house. I play with them when I can, but since they live in the UK our timing can get complicated.

And there’s a bit of an age gap, too. She’s about 5 years older.

Moggie
Moggie
2 years ago

WWTH:

Just don’t send Piers Morgan back here to the US. We already told you we didn’t want him. He’s your problem now!

I would consider trading him for Sean Hannity, but that’s about it.

I never understood why he had any success in the US anyway. With other British exports – Idris Elba, John Oliver, Daisy Ridley – I can see the appeal, but Piers Morgan’s career should have gone nowhere.

As for Hannity, you might want to keep him around, because Popehat thinks something is about to go down.

Nequam
Nequam
2 years ago

I’m a oddball gen-Xer, I think– I preferred pinball machines to most all the ’80s video games (though I really enjoyed Centipede/Millipede, Tempest and Gyruss).

As for modern games? I don’t even have the reflexes to finish the final battle of Stacking.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

A lot of Americans associate British accents with intelligence and classiness, so I think it’s easy for mediocre Brits to have their ideas treated like they’re brilliant even if they’re not. Although I’m not sure how popular Piers Morgan’s show on CNN actually was. I don’t think I’ve ever met anyone who admits to being a fan of his.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
2 years ago

@Dali

Sounds similar to my last long-term relationship – I was in my late 20s and she was in her late 40s, and the age gap was never an issue, but I broke it off after Ferguson when I donated to Michael Brown’s family, she donated to the fuckface cop’s legal fund and I suddenly realised who she really was. No no nope eww fuck no.

Hambeast
Hambeast
2 years ago

Husbeast is 7 years younger than I am and I’ve gotten plenty of the wink-wink-nudge-nudge and jocular cradle-robber type comments.

I’ve really started branching out in my video games. Started with the Simon’s Cat game and now a friend has me hooked on a hidden-object game (Seeker’s Notes.)

Now I have a group of other games for the express purpose of sharpening my (pretty much nonexistent) skills that are needed in the non hidden object games within Seeker’s Notes. I’m slowly getting the hang of keeping track of my in-game tools (there are lots!) and energy levels although I’m still not sure what experience points are good for!

But yeah, from the time I got my first smart phone (2006?) until late last year, it was all Solitaire collections and Mahjong (two solitaire collections and two Mahjong games) and nothing else.

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
2 years ago

My younger partner is 6 and a bit years older than me, my elder 10 and a bit. I’m the one who usually ends up making the cradle jokes 😛 Age hasn’t really been an issue, just a number after all. The differences in perspective can be jarring, but that’s less age per se as much as upbringing. If nothing else, it’s an opportunity for them to introduce me to stuff I’m too young to remember and me stuff they’re too old to have gotten into 🙂

Binjabreel
Binjabreel
2 years ago

Huh, I’ve never really had a relationship with someone much older or younger than me. Like, sex a few times but never a relationship proper. And usually it’s older, just cause emotional maturity is kind of like an important thing when you live a… err… complex lifestyle.

Personally, I love video games, but despise online games. I just got back into Stardew Valley and I’ll never stop laughing at how much fun a farming game can be.

Re: jellied eels

I have no goddamned idea why someone would ever desecrate eels by ruining them like that. They’re so goddamned good literally ANY other way of cooking them!

Also, goddamnit, now I want a beef and cheddar pie, and the only place that sold them closed a few months ago.

@z&t

So sounds like you gave it an honest shot, and bob’s burgers is sort of low-key in a lot of ways, but the show really finds it legs in season 3. Its a favorite of mine, so I’m obligated to defend it. The one where they kids do investigative journalism to find the Mad Pooper who keeps defecating around the school is hilarious. Ditto the one where they write a musical about how Thomas Edison was a monster who electrocuted an elephant for show.

Cherubic
2 years ago

@Dvärghundspossen:

I hesitate to go into something this heavy when I’m kind of new here and lurk way more than I post, but…yes, I’ve been in a relationship with someone who (at the time we were dating) there was something of an age gap. I was 19, she was either 26 or 27 if I remember right, we went official on her birthday so I think 27. It was…not great, but it’s hard to say how much of that was strictly due to the age gap. I think it played into it somewhat, and I’m fully aware it’s colored my perceptions of being in a relationship with someone much older or younger than me despite it being unusually bad.

I should probably append this whole story with a quick suicide trigger warning before we get any further, since that’s going to play in.

Let me back up a bit. I was really lonely at the time and pretty seriously depressed. College wasn’t kind to me, and what I’d now recognize as gender dysphoria and general…orientation weirdness meant I hadn’t been in a relationship and had no hope of ever being in one. I had one non-therapist person outside of my family who I talked to on a regular basis and struggled to break into any other communities, I was a late bloomer and very awkward. She was the first and only person on one particular one I went to who reached out for me and when she said she was interested I jumped into it despite some misgivings.

There were a lot of warning signs I should have seen. I won’t go into the details unless someone really wants me to but about a year into the relationship we had an argument that ended with her saying she was killing a part of herself whom she personified as a separate entity in detail and making it clear it was my fault, then logging off. She came back online the next day claiming it was just due to stress relating to difficult customers.

Sorry if that doesn’t make a lot of sense, the logs are on an old, defunct messenger app so I can’t re-check them and it’s difficult to explain from memory. It was extremely distressing and confusing for me at the time, especially because I have intrusive thoughts of committing suicide and certain things like, well, the above can trigger that. She didn’t know at the time, I didn’t really have the vocabulary to express it, so I don’t know if she was specifically doing it to manipulate me then, but…well, you’ll see.

I think the most haunting one for me was that I found out not too long after we broke up that a messy break-up of a sorts she had with a mutual friend who had only recently turned 18 and was a CSA survivor was due in major part to her admitting romantic interest in them. This was several years into the relationship so the age gap was much bigger then, I think around ten years by that point. They’d kept a correspondence on another site and when they started getting into more heated arguments, she had me read their letters for her.

I remember I had the most profound ‘sinking feeling’ type emotion that there was something way worse going on here when that happened, much more than I was being let on to. Their responses didn’t paint her in the best light either even without mentioning that she’d come onto them, but I couldn’t really tell her that because she responded extremely negatively to even the gentlest criticisms about how she probably should reconsider her actions were taken very badly. Trust me, I tried and by that time I’d given up. She’d been planning on having this person move in with us before that point. I held a lot of guilt that I allowed that to happen to someone who was still very young, I felt like I should have protected them from that and stood up for them. I’ve since gotten back in contact with them and explained what happened on my end, and we’ve reconciled.

If you’re wondering why I stuck with all this, well, she had a lot of mental health issues and past traumas, and so did I. I could relate a lot to of them and because I’d made missteps in the relationship, I should be trying my best to make up for my mistakes and heal things. Plus, love does weird things to you, I guess. Nevertheless I felt as though I was in a live-in caretaker relationship constantly. It was in essence being on suicide watch 24-7, which was not great for my mental health either. I had hoped things would get better but they didn’t, and in fact got worse.

For clarity’s sake, I absolutely do not think that mental health issues are enough to give up on a person, part of her issue was she was extremely self-sabotaging with social networks and dropped psychiatric professionals (to her credit, some of the specialists were terrible.) I also don’t think that any one person should be sole caretaker for someone. People aren’t meant to have relationships with just one person.

She did get me into a polyamorous relationship as one of those things I thought might help heal the relationship…but it was with someone I’d also been crushing at the time, and she knew it because I’d told her in the past. Granted, I never made my feelings known to my crush or tried to turn things into a “true” triad (e.g. where everyone is dating everyone else) so this one I will say was entirely my fault.

That aside, I did feel constantly pitted against her other partner, since said partner was able to give more money, was more willing to engage in sexual activities, and so on and so forth. TMI time: I’m asexual and somewhat repulsed by the idea of in-person sex; we’d done text-based stuff before but after one night where she had a breakdown doing ERP with both me and her other partner because she got overwhelmed dealing with both of us I was afraid to try again. I can say from experience that poly relationships will absolutely compound any prior issues we had. I was young and naive.

Fast forward about three years ago, she threatened suicide against me for one of those mild criticisms when I finally had the courage to stand up and give the most minor criticism I could think of. I figured it might be baby steps towards actually bringing up my bigger issues with the relationship. Well, that didn’t quite work out like I hoped, obviously.

She admitted a few days later she was doing this deliberately because she was aware of my suicide trigger and felt like it was ‘the only way to get [my] attention,’ her words exactly. I had hoped she’d just forgotten. I should have known this wasn’t the case because she specifically walked through the steps she was going to take, which is the specific thing that is most likely to cause intrusive thoughts for me. I felt incredibly betrayed. I am sure of her phrasing because that moment is burned into my memory, sometimes I struggle to remember things from that time period but that one I am certain of. It happened that fell very close to when I was going to a convention with some friends, and they strongly encouraged me to leave while I was staying at the hotel with them. One offered to put me up at her house until I could sort things out with housing. I didn’t want to take them up but after some heavy thinking and telling them about issues we’d had that I hadn’t told anyone else, I realized I needed to.

These were the same friends she was intensely jealous of because I spent a lot of time talking to them. If you ever find her, she’d blame the breakup on me not being interested in girls, I’m sure, since that was always a sticking point in our arguments (I’m biromantic, but I am more interested in men.) That wasn’t it. If it was, I wouldn’t have stuck with her for six years. I wish I hadn’t for that long, I wish I hadn’t moved in with her, I wish I’d said no that day she said she wanted a relationship, I wish I had acted better because in spite of it all I still feel guilt over hurting her, and I wish I knew how to feel about everything because there’s not really handbooks for recovering from the sort of relationship I was in as far as I know. Living with her was like being in a war zone for someone like me, waiting to step on a mine or get shelled by artillery. If the explosives were intrusive thoughts and suicidal impulses in this metaphor, I guess. Sometimes I can play video games and I hear a bit of voice acting or SFX that sounds like her self-injuring herself and it sets me off back into that same crisis mode. Someone who didn’t have the same triggers I did would probably have handled it better, I think.

But in spite of it all I didn’t see how bad things were until I finally made breakthroughs into a community where I had deeper connections with people than I had in the past. It made me realize what interpersonal conflicts are supposed to look like and how they shouldn’t end with someone threatening to hurt themself, or constantly turning any issue they have into how they’re suffering and letting their pain consume you, making you ignore any hurt you’ve felt and bury it deep.

Uh. I got kind of carried away, I’ve only ever talked about this stuff with close friends before and my boyfriend so after a while it just turned into stream-of-consciousness rambling of things I haven’t had a chance to really express yet.

Anyway, my point is that I don’t think age gaps are strictly bad, in spite of all that. I think that, on the darker end of the spectrum, some can use them to target lonely people like I was. Maybe they’re not even really aware of it, they just took the idea that someone who’s in a relationship should have their life center around you, and vice-versa. I say this because when someone is young and isolated, they’re more likely to idealize their partner, and that sort of attention can be addictive. I don’t mean to imply that this is the case for anyone else who’s in an age gap relationship. This is far from the the standard, I think, but for some more insidious people it’s true for them.

But personally speaking, my experiences have poisoned the well for me. I can’t ever see myself having another relationship with an age gap.

On happier notes: I play video games less and less these days. Though I’m still a diehard Pokemon fan and play (somewhat) competitively, and I pick up strategy games now and then and get obsessed with a handful. It’s a big change because I was half-raised by video games, for better or worse. I find that tabletop role-playing games replace a lot of fun that video games gave me and do a better job of it, for the most part. My boyfriend and most of my friends also have similar tastes in games, so we can bond over that.

F is for 'Fro'
F is for 'Fro'
2 years ago

I have learned many new things about Britain’s relationship with pies.

I don’t know what eels taste like. Do I want to know what they taste like?

Handsome :Punkle Stan: Jack

Look, I know there weren’t any actual pies featured in the clip, but, come on, these are Brits. Obviously they will be eating pies at some point.

Is…is that an actual British stereotype? Liking pies? I…what?

Diptych
Diptych
2 years ago

Savoury pies are a much larger phenomenon in UK cuisine than US ditto, I believe. Certainly, they’re a staple here in Aus – it’s a rare week I don’t enjoy a veggie pie lunch.

As for relationships… I’m a few years younger than my wife, and one of the many things we bonded over is a shared love for building and management/strategy games.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
2 years ago

Maybe David mixed up Brit stereotypes and Aussie stereotypes? Because it’s definitely an Aussie stereotype. We had literal protests after a few stores started charging for the sauce (ketchup) to put on them.

EDIT: Somewhat ninja’d on Aussie pie fanaticism… Ironically because I was eating a pie. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Diptych
Diptych
2 years ago

High five!

…no, wait.

Pie five!

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
2 years ago

@Alan

but, come on, these are Brits. Obviously they will be eating pies at some point.

Hey! I haven’t eaten a pie since….well ok, today doesn’t provide my best counter argument; or yesterday come to that; or indeed…hmm.

But if you’d said this on Wednesday I could be rightly outraged.

You made me snort my organic green tea kombucha. (Yes, I’m from San Francisco.)