By David Futrelle
Misogynists who have trouble getting dates have long warned of the insidious effects of makeup, which they claim enables ugly women to pass themselves off as hotties and sleep with hotter dudes, which is somehow a crime against humanity because, I’m not sure, I guess because this is unfair to ugly dudes for some reason, maybe because they’re jealous that the unhot women get to sleep with the hot guys? Or maybe it’s unfair because when the hotter dudes see these women without makeup it makes them feel bad?
Anyway, it turns out that makeup might also be destroying the human race genetically by allowing these makeup-wearing fake hotties to breed, at least according to noted MGTOW scientist zRaXcPk.
Dr. zRaXcPk took to the Men Going Their Own Way subreddit to offer this chilling warning:
Let’s go through Dr. zRaXcPk’s new hypothesis line by line.
Has makeup made women uglier through artificially inflated smv in our breeding?
SMV is of course “Sexual Market Value,” a thing that definitely exists because it’s not like different people are looking for different things when it comes to sex and romance.
Makeup can turn a 4 seemingly into an 8 with a decent pair of yoga pants helping suck in that wine gut.
Wait, yoga pants can do that? Note to self: buy yoga pants.
Extrapolate that over 4-6 generations (sans yoga pants of course) and you have 4-6 generations of women breeding that might not have bred, or bred with higher quality men making lower quality offspring due to the woman’s inferior genetics.
I think what he means here is that makeup allows women to, er, breed with “higher quality men,” which means these men will have “lower quality” kids with their secretly ugly fake hottie wives.
But I am a bit surprised to learn that women have only been trying to make themselves look pretty with makeup and flattering clothing for 4-6 generations.
This could artificially inflate ugly and stupid people into the world. I think we can all agree this is currently happening. It’s like watching Idiocracy in slow motion.
Yep. Apparently ugly people are also stupid, according to genetics or something.
Women with makeup also can have serious self-esteem and self image issues.
Ok, yes, rigid beauty standards can cause issues for some women.
Over the generations, this could also be paralleled to women consuming the vast majority of psychiatric drugs in our society, while continuing to have children, thus weakening the gene pool further by bringing more individuals into it with genetic histories of mental illness.
Er, now I’m no geneticist, but I’m pretty sure that if something in the culture makes you feel like shit this doesn’t somehow change your genes to make you more prone to mental illness.
Could this be a flaw in Dr. zRaXcPk’s theory?
I’m sure makeup isn’t the entire reason for all of this happening, but it surely didn’t help.
How modest of Dr. zRaXcPk to not think his brilliant theory answers everything.
Most commenters in the r/MGTOW thread seemed to think that Dr. zRaXcPk was onto something.
“I agree,” wrote sanicthehedgefund.
Make up caused a lot of damage to our species. While I don’t believe too much in the alpha beta hierarchy, there are definately beta females. And they pose as alpha females with good skin. Unfortunately men took the bate.
“The bate.” I’m guessing sanicthehedgefund knows all about ‘bating, huh”
Sorry, let’s keep going.
I wonder how disappointed some PUAs and redpillers would be if you showed them their “conquests” without make up. There go their 7s and 8s.
Ooh, throwing a little shade at the pickup artists. Nice.
“Definitely,” agreed another commenter whose account has since vanished.
The dumpsters are overflowing with trash. The sewers are clogged and toxic waste is bubbling up and flooding the roads. The west is a septic tank at critical mass about to burst.
“Survival of the most dishonest,” added Darth_Toenail.
“Beauty is based on symmetry, the golden ratio and the face of the average,” Emanresu_rouy_esoohc declared.
By artificially creating a new face, you will screw up the “face of the averages” part of the beauty-equation. So, I guess you have a point. To compete with other women for the best man, they have to use makeup or they lose instantly.
Not everyone was wholly convinced.
“Make up has been going on for a lot longer than this,”MadPreacher1AD pointed out.
Try Jezebel from 9th century BC Israel as she was written about in 2 Kings 9:30-37. She painted herself up with make up and acted ungodly towards Jehu a prophet. She was sentenced to death for her crimes. She is an oft-repeated warning to later women to avoid painting themselves with make up and to commit sins against men of God.
Huh. That seems a little harsh.
This has nothing to do with self-esteem and self-image problems. It is a societal problem that has let women off the hook in regards to accountability.
Good to see that MadPreacher1AD’s skepticism on the makeup timeline hasn’t caused him to forget that the real problem is those damn unaccountable females and the soyboy cucks who enable them!
This is part of the reason why they are on drugs since they were designed to be helpmates to men. Their entire happiness is defined upon this role and a man’s job is to keep his wife in check as the head of the house.
Ok, then.
TheOnlyThing-Sufjan offered a more detailed rebuttal.
Lets not jump on the social darwinisme train to fast here. True that it might happen that lesser females attract the top quailty males, however in what regard are we talking here? Is it just looks, if so I’m not that bothered,
Ok. By MGTOW standards this is almost reasonable. But wait, TheOnlyThing-Sufjan isn’t quite done yet.
if it is physical and mental fitness/capacity it is not a great thing, however following said point it is better to let the top man fuck every woman and let the lesser man fuck nobody.
Wait, what? I thought you weren’t riding “the social darwinisme train.”
In that case you have the best possible offspring, therefor makeup can help accomplish this.
But wait there’s more!
The big point is that these top man are then forced to staying with said lesser woman, in the sense of child support atleast, therefore he is no longer willing to procreate with another woman. In short the problem would then not be make up but the idea that a top male should only have so many childeren and partners.
LET THE TOP MEN BREED
In that case a counter meassure could be that the lesser males raise the childeren of the top males (aka chucks). This however is something man are not willing to do since the conclusion is that this social darwinism argument seems to fail.
So the real problem is lesser men getting in the way of the top males impregnating all the ladies without having to take responsibility for the children? So women aren’t really to blame? But this is the MGTOW subreddit! I’m a little confused.
Second what is even more important in my opnion is that woman cannot seem to pick out a suitable mate in the sense that they still judge man according to pre society standards.
Oh good, women ARE to blame after all.
Meaning that the actual sexual attraction (which is based on certain aspects which gives the best offspring in primal times) is based on predicates which are most helpfull in a pre technological society. So tall, jaw line, muscles, ect are all attractive features for woman, that is why they fall for said man.
Yes, the real problem is that women aren’t genetically wired to have the hots for, I’m going to guess here, guys who have trouble spelling “Darwinism?”
However said man could be immorral, stupid, have a fast collection of mental problems, ect. Therefore their genes might get spreaded alltough if the values where being selected which makes you valued in current society then woman should be attracted to intellegence, good moral character, mentally strong, healty.
And obviously they should be genetically attracted to guys who make a lot of spelling mistakes. Women should LOVE LOVE LOVE men who make a lot of spelling mistakes! The mor the bettre!
But this is simply not in their nature since our natural attraction and what makes valuebale citizens do not line up. Unfortunatly there is not allot we can do about that. Some might argue woman like men with money, well this is not necesserily true, since the women like the money not necesserily the man making it.
Damn those golddiggers who love money more than spelling mistakes!
If we want to do selective breeding (which i’m very much against, from an ethical point of view), then the unfortunate conclusion will be that only a select few man will procreate and most man should be left childless.
Wait, so you’re against “social darwinisme” again?
You might argue but why do the lesser woman get to breed, this is simply because the possibilty of lesser genes with greater genes can still create a good citizen. But lesser with lesser genes will make it less likley.
My head hurts.
Ofcourse this idea is total void of any social constructions which can help people flourish even if they are provided with lesser natural abilities. This is why social darwinism is always a tricky argument to make.
And that’s the end of TheOnlyThing-Sufjan’s contribution to the scientific literature.
Don’t you just love a good scientific debate?
What does Bill Maher have to do with Roseanne? Did they just pick a “liberal” name out of a hat?
Is it his own racism?
I’m sure conservatives are acting in entirely good faith here.
Because one time Maher compared Trump to an orangutan, I think. As if comparing a white person to an ape and comparing a black person to an ape are remotely equivalent.
I’m kind of wondering why this latest shitty Roseanne tweet was the one that got the show cancelled though. It came very soon after Wanda Sykes quit over it, so that must have something to do with it? Pure speculation here, but maybe Sykes said something like “I’m out, I hope you cancel the show, if not, I’m probably going to have to drag you publicly.”
I mean, it’s not like ABC didn’t know Roseanne’s history before giving her the show.
This is the same Roseanne who screeched the national anthem, spat, and grabbed her crotch before a Padres game in 1990. But sure, kneeling is disrepectful.
… oh no, what would we ever do if that campaign succeeded.
Stop. Don’t. Come back.
… oh no, what would we ever do with ourselves if that campaign succeeded?
Stop. Don’t. Come back.
I’m not really seeing the bad side of their cunning plan.
1st, a note re: Sufjan. English almost surely isn’t his 1st language (French maybe, given his use of ‘isme’), let’s give him a break on his spelling. Plenty of folks, even cool peeps on this blog, have similar issues with the language, no need for the splash damage. We don’t hafta go after the way he writes
That said, let’s go after the way he writes, shall we? 😛
There’s nothing inherently lesser about being a bottom, or a verse for that matter. Shaming men for their sexual preferences is really uncoo… Oh. OHHH! Nevermind
I mean, referring to your babymama as a ‘lesser woman’ maybe doesn’t look so great in family court and seems a good way to lose custody and be made to provide child support in the 1st place. But that’s just me…
Somehow, I get the impression this guy thinks ‘lesser men’ not taking care of Chad’s brood for him is a bigger shame than Chad being a deadbeat
[citation needed]
MGTOW: being mad that women don’t like decent men, without being able to put 2 and 2 together. So close, fellas…
I mean, if the most interesting thing about you is your money, that sounds like a personal problem to me. GYOW, and pick up a hobby or a book. It’ll do wonders, promise
Someone failed the part of 7th grade biology on Punnett squares
Yep
Psst. Nobody tell these guys that there have been and still are societies where men wear cosmetics. I don’t think their superior brains can take that much truth.
Re: TheMadPreacher1AD
Wow, a complementarian and a MGTOW? ‘fuck outta here; that’s too much doublethink for one (admittedly quite empty) head. Also, if you want to hew closely to your One True Bible Translation of choice, it’s spelled “help meet”, you pharisaical ass.
I don’t know if these guys know this but their hero Donald Trump doesn’t ever step outside without spraying his face with orange shit.
Also, unrelatedly, sorry about the commenting issues, will do my besst to resolve them. have been kind of migrained-sidelined the last couple of days.
Welcome to the wild realms of the gene pool
It’s all-natural, we never use chlorine
And from it springs, well, everyone
That you have ever seen
Contained in the chromosome resort
Where it’s always too much for a room
Unless you’re real lucky, or you’re awfully plucky
You just might meet your doom
But the waves of the gene pool, they vary
And sometimes they come a bit too hard
Don’t have to get out to get a good hard drink
Rumor has it they don’t even card
It’s a miracle the pool still exists
It’s run solely by the repertoire
The messes they make can linger in the lake
And you’re usually left wanting more
But the gene pool is where we all came from
And to its depths soon we will go
Feel free to bring a good camera
‘Cause everyone’s game for a show
It’s always been a mess,
God bless,
but one thing is for sure
There ain’t some magic mathematics
To see who has allure
Some people are met by the waves,
Some people meet in the side caves,
Still others find love where the rest decays
But until the dusk stops turning into the days
People find their fates in the strangest ways
Welcome to the wild realms of the gene pool
Where time is just a jape
The company still have photos
From when your ancestors got it on with an ape
But there’s one thing that holds steady
Days in and out and in
Until there’s a crime that ends all time
The nights will roll again
I was unaware that Roseanne was let back on television. :/
Also… do MGTOWs realize that many men use products that are basically rebranded makeup items? (For some reason men’s skin care products have to be labeled ‘for men’ even if the item is basically just a beauty bar or witch-hazel or something)
I wear one product to keep my skin even-looking, and have to ocassionally use those makeup remover thingies to get all of it off when it builds up. Guess that voids my man card.
@David
Sympathies, dude. Migraines are the worst.
Don’t be silly! Only men’s value has changed according to technological and societal progression! A woman’s value of being a pretty, convenient object hasn’t changed at all in thousands of years! It’s why men’s “evolutionarily imposed preferences” are 100% justified, but why woman’s preferences are DESTROYING CIVILIZATION AS WE KNOW IT. /sarcasm
Did…did Chad change his name or something?
Also, “wine gut”, is that even a thing?
Me is Darwin. Darwin is me. Will the wisdom flowing forth from the dudebros never cease?
Alan Robertshaw,
I’m not sure if they know makeup comes off. They’ve never established successful enough relationships with women to have seen them in every circumstance. Anything short of perfection in physical appearance would no doubt send them screaming away.
I have to re-enter my info. as well. I also have to hit refresh a few times before my post shows up.
@Jesalin: Clit-o-centric Lesbian Goddess
I think “chucks” refers to the children of “top males”, so the hierarchy goes like this:
Cucks raise chucks on behalf of Chads.
ETA:
How many chucks could a beta cuck raise
if a beta cuck raised Chad’s chucks?
He’d raise as much as he could with his bucks
if a beta cuck raised Chad’s chucks.
Sometimes these cholmondeleys make me think of John Ruskin’s disinclination to consummate his marriage with Effie Gray.
“Wait, *that’s* what naked women actually look like?! Imma go write about Venetian architecture.”
Pretty sure that’s a typo of ‘cucks’:
lesser males raise[ing] the childeren of the top males (aka cucks). This however is something man are not willing to do
The ‘lesser males’ are aka cucks
No. Neither is ‘beer gut’, really, except insofar as for a long while beer was one of the easiest ways to drink extra calories.
“And after that Imma go and become obsessed with this ten year old girl over here and continue said obsession after she dies!”
WordPress recently put out a patch with some privacy updates that gives users the choice to opt in to cookies – that may be why our info isn’t getting saved anymore. I don’t see the option on the comment box though.
But if yoga pants make everyone into a 10, why does that matter? How is that any different from corrective lenses, shoes, money, toothbrushes, inhalers, or other “artificial” devices that enhance a person’s natural capabilities? We’re tool-using creatures. It’s what we do.
And how does this extrapolation work, exactly? If a 4 mates with an 8, the OP seems to be saying the resulting offspring will be an average of the two numbers, and over successive generations women will lose more and more SMV until eventually all women are < 1, no more interaction is possible, and the boner death of the universe is complete. So why haven't we observed that trend yet?
Ohhh, there we go. They’re bitter about women rejecting them, so they’re consoling themselves with the thought that it’s because they’re Too Smart To Be Fooled By Makeup.
@David:
There were women wearing eye-liner within a mile of the Great Pyramid while it was being built. Probably earlier, but we don’t have written documentation from earlier since they hadn’t invented writing yet much earlier than that. And 2 Kings 9:30-37 seems to indicate that misogynists have been calling women “whores” for wearing makeup and sometimes subsequently murdering them for at least half as long, sigh.
@Violet:
The Value bale! Extra large, and 20% less expensive kilogram-for-kilogram. Save by buying in bulk!
@Nequam:
“Atlas Shrugged” was unfilmable. They made the mistake of filming it anyway. Inevitably, the result was a train wreck.
What makes them think “The Fountainhead” will be any different?
@WWTH:
Unfortunately, yes.
@Buttercup:
Ah, but you see, kneeling is disrespectful to the system that is keeping brown people down. Whereas disrespecting a (I presume) Hispanic-dominated team is respectful to that system.
So conservatives are giving away their true views here: the thing they are demanding people respect is the awful, demeaning, degrading system their privileges flow from, rather than “our troops” or “our flag” or “our anthem”.
@Hippodameia:
If they succeed, they’ll gloat about it. Interminably. Insufferably. Just like they gloat incessantly about Trump’s dodgy electoral “win”. 😛
@Victorious Parasol:
And ours is one of them, though men’s perfume is called “body spray” and “aftershave”, men’s hair dye is “for fixing grey hair”, and men’s makeup is called “spray tan”. You’d think they’d be familiar with that last one, seeing as how that big orange wrecking ball they somehow managed to elect to high office drenches himself in the stuff.
Next up: some conservative will turn up implying that men don’t wear jewelry, or professing amazement when someone says they do, while his own left hand, visible in parts of his shitty Youtube video, sports a visible wedding band…
To be fair, “The Fountainhead” already has a film adaptation. The screenplay was written by Rand herself, no less. I guarantee it has 100% less slow-fast-slow-motion shots than Snyder’s take will, though.