By David Futrelle
I learn so much from the comments that people leave here that I don’t let out of moderation. So I thought I’d share some recent nuggets of truthiness with you all.
“Females, deep down, want to be preyed upon.”
In response to my post about the incel dude who likes to terrify 14-year-olds by asking them creepy questions and then following them down the street, some dude calling himself Strong Silent Type typed out this horrifying nonsense:
Don’t be so PC. There’s nothing wrong with this. It’s good confidence training for young dudes or these InCel/PUA types. And it’s harmless fun for the rest of us.
The truth is, most women/girls get a little bit of a rush from it. It’s a controlled dose of fear/danger/excitement. Like a roller coaster. It’s similar to flirting. Males need to hunt. To be predators. And females, deep down, want to be preyed upon.
I do a version of this by walking very, very quietly as I come up behind a female startling her. Or when I hear the distinctive sound of high heels around a corner, I’ll time my pace so that as soon as she makes the turn I’ll be right there. The fact that I’m fairly tall and bearded with an imposing presence makes the impact more intense.
That moment when her heart skips a beat… when she inhales and momentarily freezes… It’s something primal for both of us. I’ve mastered how to look menacing without doing anything overtly improper. I won’t apologize or give her a smile or say something or give any of the non-verbal cues she’s looking for to signal everything’s OK. I’ll just stare and drag that moment out a bit too long.
Then I keep moving. Maybe next time, sweetheart. I know the female walks away with a little bit of a buzz just like I do.
Does this guy really believe this (and/or do this) or is he trolling? Either way, he’s a huge asshole.
“The mere existence of incels is testament to the degradation of women.”
So says some dude called Steve:
I see so much bullshit swirling around the whole concept of incels. The real reason that incels have become a thing is that something we all used to take for granted has been discovered not to be true.
We all used to assume that men had no bottom. “Men will fuck anything,” the conventional wisdom ran. But now we’re finding that we do have a bottom after all. More and more women today are simply so awful that men are deciding that celibacy is preferable. The mere existence of incels is testament to the degradation of women. It’s a badge to wear with pride.
INCEL pride!
“A man marooned on a desert island will survive (well may).”
Brinbrin62 has apparently never watched Naked and Afraid, or truly considered the long-term effects of an all-seagull diet.
MGTOWs are not adopting a “cat lady” lifestyle. This is what all single-at-40 women eventually become, but not men. Men are not as prone to mental illness due to loneliness than women are. A man marooned on a desert island will survive (well : may). A woman will die, and fast.
Men can thrive alone. Aging single women… just end up loving cat (and liquors… and meth).
You may not agree with the impact of feminism on the occidental civilization and other “conspiracies” theories. But some of these theories may be true.
Well, I guess you chose the blue pill, so…
I love the reference to “occidental civilization” which has become a bit of a racist dogwhistle these days. Amazing how many of these misogynists also turn out to be huge racists.
“More and more women today are simply so awful that men are deciding that celibacy is preferable.”
That’s not incel, though. The “in-” part means “involuntary”. What Steve is describing is MGTOW, which is 100% voluntary (and helps weed the misogynist a-holes out of the dating pool).
though for me i’d prefer
http://www.medievalcollectibles.com/images/Product/large/AH-6081.png
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juana_Maria Some women are pretty adapt at surviving alone on islands.
I wouldn’t touch that incel with a 39 and a half foot pole.
Close enough.
Thank you for not letting those people through into the comments as a whole. I’m thirding the call for maces. Or morning stars, as the wielder so prefers.
Incels will say anything to justify their shitty behavior. And I think that guy Steve is a little confused, if you’re voluntarily choosing celibacy because wominz is yucky, then you’re hardly INvoluntarily CELibate. But the single women of the world thank you for removing yourself from the dating pool, I’m sure.
You know what’s really fun and gives a rush like a roller coaster? A fucking roller coaster. I also get to decide when I get into one – last I checked carnival rides don’t follow you through dark alleys.
Also, hi!
300+ year old engineer seagull miggy is dat you?
Aging spinsters do meth? Lots of meth? That is literally the first time I’ve heard that one.
“More and more women today are simply so awful that men are deciding that celibacy is preferable. The mere existence of incels is testament to the degradation of women.”
Perhaps I’m missing something here, but if they are deciding to be celibate aren’t they, by definition, not involuntarily celibate?
I find imposing presence is a useful perk in Fallout but tends to get you maced in the face in reality.
p.s. Lol at the gendered mace(Sabre pink?) but I suppose I shouldn’t be surprised…
“More and more women today are simply so awful that men are deciding that celibacy is preferable. The mere existence of incels is testament to the degradation of women. It’s a badge to wear with pride.”
If you are CHOOSING not to be with women, does that make you a VOLUNTARY celibate, not an INvoluntary celibate?
To quote Inigo Montoya, “You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.”
What’s wrong with a life full of cats and liquor?
When I think of an evening spent in an armchair, peacefully reading a book under a pile of kitties with a nice glass of wine to hand, vs an evening being shouted at by a resentful, boring MRA who thinks he owns me by virtue of having a dick even though he has less than half my brain power (otherwise he wouldn’t be an MRA)…..I can’t help feeling there’s a clear winner
I wonder if strong silent type would appreciate me following him around whilst carrying a baseball or cricket bat? Somehow I don’t think he would.
Is the movie Men in Black a documentary? I feel like these guys are aliens pretending to be human.
But no they’re not aliens, if they were then MIB would have deported them from this planet already
And then we’re speaking out of it.
It’s not controlled. When a person of any gender goes on a roller coaster or watches a horror movie to get a little rush, they are choosing it. They know more and less when it will end and more importantly, that it will end at all. They know no harm will come to them. This is not the case with street harassment. Most harassers will not escalate to violence. But some of them will. It’s not a fun little thrill. It’s real fear and stress. Not remotely the same as voluntarily riding a roller coaster. Although, you know us feminists. The ride we like the best is the cock carousel.
If forced to choose, I think I would prefer meth.
At this point, I’ve just decided that these guys just don’t know/care what words mean.
First guy seems like another rapist-in-training, with his “maybe next time” flourish and his assumption that women are just ASKING to be afraid. That seems like a very short step, to me.
@Moggie
LOL!
I like the Mace idea, but can we get the thing enchanted? I hate having base stat equipment.
Strong Silent Type’s opening sentence made me make Maya Rudolph’s exact face from that gif at the top. I also reflexively threw my arms up: my brain was telling me there was something dangerous I had to prepare to fend off.
Don’t get me wrong, I like being scared – in a situation where I feel safe. When I read a supernatural horror story (my handle is a reference to The Shadow Over Innsmouth), I can get a little thrill out of the peril the protagonists are in, but it’s not that scary to me because I know vampires and ghosts and Lovecraftian horrors aren’t real and can’t hurt me. When I’m on a rollercoaster, I feel reasonably certain it’s been designed well enough that I’m not going to be injured. I feel scared, but in a good way – a safe way. A strange man being creepy makes me Bad Scared because I don’t know what he’s capable of. Yes, the most likely scenario is that he’s a Strong Silent Type…type who just wants to get a rise out of me. IMO, most street harassers are opportunistic cowards who would fold in the face of genuine risk or opposition. But there’s a chance – a very small chance, but a chance – that he’s a rapist or murderer, and I can’t tell just by looking what kind of creep the creep really is. I have no way of knowing if I’m safe or not. That’s what makes street harassment so upsetting.
When we’re faced with the same ol’ callin’
It’s always to our dismay
And that’s why we got pastel pink pepper spray
While fear can be enticing
You’ve left a factor sans comment
And that’s a little thing we call consent
In a negotiated scene, one can call red-yellow-green
And expect all to be well
But situations without–well, I have many a doubt
That things won’t go to hell
Lesson learned, don’t miss the details
Get consent before a fright
And don’t be what roams in the night!
Yanno, I want Pug to read these lovely, unsoliticted comments and explain why people shouldn’t eye men who self-identifies as an Incel with the appropriate anount of wariness.
He’s trying to blow himself up into an ogre so he can hide from the fact that he’s a pest.
Not impressed.