By David Futrelle
We may have all overdosed on the hideously depressing incel coverage over the last week, so I thought today we could take a break and drop in on an ever-so-slightly less toxic misogynistic subculture, namely our old friends the MGTOWs, or Men Going Their Own Way So Completely That All They Do Is Bitch About Women.
Let’s just pop in on a discussion I found — don’t ask me how, I don’t even remember — over on MGTOW.com. The subject: “Does feminism promote bestiality?”
Take it away, young MGTOW:
I’m rather young, so i can’t really say if it’s been increasing or not, but i suspect so.
When i was 17, i was hugely obsessed with statistics, and i one day ran into a survey done asking female dog owners if they had ever had sexual intercourse with their dog. 1 in 10 stated that they had.
I haven’t been able to find it back as since then google’s search algorithms have been completely feminized so i can no longer find dick all on the net
Ah, yes, it couldn’t be that you misremembered the study, must have been a “feminized” search engine.
Anyway, after an admittedly halfassed attempt at Googling I couldn’t find it either and the most recent widely cited study I did find (from way back in 1974) suggested that a) the percentage of women who had sex with animals was less than two percent (1.9%) and that b) the percentage of men who’d done the same was more than twice that (4.9%). So I’m guessing the study our young MGTOW “remembers” is either imaginary or completely unscientific bullshit.
Also, ewwww.
So anywho, that got me thinking, about why so many girls had dogs as pets and not the cute fluffy cats
To protect them from creepy weirdos like you?
Why they would always have a male dog, and never a female dog – wouldn’t you expect them to get a female dog?
[citation needed]
I came to the conclusion that women were just extremely f~~~ed up and disgusting when it came to their sexual desires.
Of course you did.
NOW! 5 years later!
I was on a movie set a few days ago, doing some gay ass artsy film lol… and the assistant director had a male dog… which she slept with.
This dog whined when ever he was away from her for more than 5 seconds!!!
So, it got me thinking, i mean, she sleeps with the dog every night, how on earth is she not f~~~ing it?
Um, WHAT
WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU ASSUME THAT
Sometimes my cats sleep on my bed. I DON’T HAVE SEX WITH THEM.
I mean, who sleeps with their dog!
She actually literally cuddled with the dog… probably giving it more affection than any man she’s ever known… lol.
Just got me thinking, pretty entertaining thing to think of.
Since i was 17, i have noticed both a serious increase in feminism and female relations \w dogs… but i can’t really say if the two are linked or even if the latter has been increasing of if its just my increased awareness.
So… Thoughts?
Have you ever caught any women doing weird stuff with their dogs? LOL.
Fun topic eh?
Naturally, a number of other MGTOWs had their own equally thoughtful opinions on the subject:
Gross. You want to know what’s really sick is when I see male and female dog owners. When a male dog owner sees his dog humping something, he gets stern and p~~~ed off and yanks him away. When a female sees it, she’s all “omg lol so cute”. They think it’s adorable but if you walk up to her and just say something she thinks it’s rape. There was a study about women getting aroused by seeing bonobo monkeys f~~~ing. It was all over the place. Girls gone wild for monkeys.
Well that was an interesting exercise in free association.
One MGTOW had some thoughts about “old ladies.”
why do you think those old ladies and women over 40 own a small dog?
they pour that freaking peanut butter all over their
Ok, I’m just going to stop him right there because I think we all know where that’s going.
Some of the commenters aren’t quite as bothered by the whole sex-with-dogs thing as Mr. OP. As one puts it:
I don’t frankly give a f~~~. As long as the dog wasn’t forced to [CENSORED BY DF BECAUSE IT’S DOG SEX], then I’m fine with it. There was an incident wherein a dog tried to hump me. I was a kid, and it never occurred to me that I was raping him. Listen, if the woman bends over and the dog starts humping her then I consider that to be conscentual. She offered, and he took her up on the that. Let them f~~~ dogs. If anything I find it amusing, but in all sincerity I have no moral qualms with what you call “beastiality”. I wouldn’t do it with a dog, or goat, or horse, but if the animal is willing, and you’re into that, then be my guest. I hear it’s illegal though, so you might want to keep it to yourself.
Well, that’s enough MGTOWs for one day I think.
Okay, I once got into an extended argument with a guy because he said dogs can consent because “I can tell by the look in their eye.”
Of course, this was a guy who thought bestiality laws were stupid, because he was such a staunch libertarian he thought all laws were stupid…
So, natually it devolved from there, and of course he thought child sex was a stupid thing to legislate against, because clearly a 5 year old *can* consent. They say yes to candy when offered; totes the same thing.
He ended up being nick-named “Puppy-fucker” and then was astonished at that.
Lawd.
For fuck’s sake. How does one go from “she cuddles her dog a lot” to “she must be fucking it”? And isn’t this the same crowd that wants to fuck robots? From where I’m sitting, the original poster needs justification for his urge to fuck a dog.
I think it’s because MGTOW are just so hateful. They can’t even imagine anyone showing affection to a person or I guess to an animal unless they’re trying to get sex. So they project that onto everyone else. Love and affection is just so alien to them that they see someone cuddling their pet and jump right to bestiality.
Wait hang on I thought the stereotype was that feminists were crazy cat ladies. Why was this guy searching for statistics on dog fucking in the first place? More importantly how is the guy who thinks feminism leads to dog sex only the second creepiest guy in a thread?
So this guy is fantasizing about bestiality but it’s the women who are the problem. Gotcha.
Feminists wonder: do migtoes secretly get off on doggie bestiality porn?
Because obviously, this guy’s head is full of it.
It must have been difficult, being raised to adulthood in some kind of isolation where you never see anyone showing affection for pets, even on TV/film/Internet. Welcome to the Internet, young MGTOW guy: the pet videos on youtube will blow your mind!
I’m with Clark_Westfeild. This is the first time I’ve heard that dogs are a favorite pet for feminists or for women.
My seventeen-year-old cat always sleeps near my head. Never mind that this cat pretty much never leaves the bed except to eat and drink. Surely I must be having sex with this cat.
What the hell is wrong with these freaks of nature?
I don’t like where my mind goes with this. Why does he imply that he was the rapist in this scenario?
@Bina;
Because obviously, this guy […] is full of it.
ftfy
Anyone else reminded of that supposed feminist “confession” on Roosh’s site?
As a lady with a lady dog who sleeps in the same bed with her….I am literally out of words.
I’d also like to point out that any time some male dog at the dog park tries to mount by spayed rescue, its some douchey guy’s dog who’s shrugging and saying “It’s just their nature” soooo let’s have an anecdote fight.
@Tovius
Yeah, the dogs thing isn’t new. It’s like with the creepy-ass stalking, they’re starting to sound like a broken record.
Moggie, the guy I was talking about in my OP? He posited something similar, except he was using the dog humping scenario as the example that the dog was raping *him.*
There are four kinds of people I could see caring what sex their dog is…
1) Breeders.
2) People who think it makes a difference in temperament.
3) The vast minority of dog owners who want to have sex with their dog.
4) Asshole men like MGTOWs who might consider themselves cucked if their dog was female.
I’ve actually seen a feminist take on bestiality and the conclusion was that it was wrong because of consent issues. Ass backwards as usual.
I am a bit confused, Brony; why is that feminist ass backwards?
Animals can’t consent.
“…not the cute fluffy cats…”
It’s funny how they divide things into masculine and feminine. Like girls are supposed to have cats.
What if you’re allergic to cats?
I might like to get a dog, but I wonder if my allergies aren’t so bad that dogs might set it off too?
Small dogs. What if you have a small home? I don’t think a Great Dane would really work in, or be comfortable in, smaller spaces. You know what, fuck it, I’m getting a racehorse. And a couple of Manatees, they can live in a kiddie pool in the basement.
Back to practical land: So yes, if I would get a dog, it would be a smaller dog.
And pouring peanut butter? Dude, you aren’t braining the STEM right! Viscosity.
No, it’s not a brand of dog food.
So many questions. So very many questions, and yet, the one that’s sticking with me the most is this: Why would you expect women to have girl dogs instead of boy dogs? In my experience, most people are shitty at sexing dogs – that is, correctly identifying which sex a dog is – despite the fact that, unlike cats*, the males keep their penises on the outside and it’s a bit prominent. And if they can’t tell the males from the females, why would they selectively adopt by sex?
* Cats keep the penises tucked away most of the time. When I was a child I came across my cat very thoroughly grooming himself, and thought it was a strange, probably cancerous growth. My parents tried to explain, but this just confused the issue more – I knew he’d been fixed, so how could he have boy parts?
Er, thanks, Eddie, I thought of that right after the edit window closed. [/foreheadsmack]
@Moggie:
Yeah, that’s what I’m wondering, too. I’m guessing a Freudian slip; he may have thought he was saying that he didn’t know the dog was trying to rape him, but since he’s a rapey freak himself, it came out as him-raping-the-dog. Which actually kind of fits.
@PeeVee
Akkkkk…
The MGTOWs are ass backwards…
I was intrigued by the title. Not the subject, but how the writer got from A to B. I knew it would be crappy but still…
Well I still don’t get it. Nonsense all over. I walk dogs for a living now and this is not how dogs work. Nor is it how humans work. I don’t rule out a rare possibility, but dogs largely interact with us like oddly shaped parents. Humping behaviour in dogs isn’t automatically about sex (girls hump, boys hump, it’s a whole Blur song) and the “lipsticks” (dog parlance for erection; it’s weirdly descriptive) aren’t universally present.
And we largely interact with them like oddly hairy children. That’s not to say they’re kid substitutes, but we don’t generally ask them to cook this evening’s dinner. So, again, no.
Speaking for myself, my dog sleeps in my bed for a variety of reasons. He (mostly) doesn’t disturb my sleep (and when he does I’d mostly rather he did eg diarrhoea), he’s a hot water bottle, he’s good at judging between scary noises I imagined and actual scary noises, but mostly because he wants to.
Unpacking and posting is a bad idea.