By David Futrelle
In the wake of the Toronto van attacks, the mods on Incels.me have apparently decided to hide some of the more incriminating discussions on the site. Like this little thread, which they deleted — but not before the Internet Archive’s Wayback Machine grabbed a copy of it.
I guess this thread was just a little bit too enthusiastically pro-mass-murder for its own good. 
You may notice that some of the commenters accuse the OP of being a troll from the anti-incel IncelTears subreddit. But if you go to the archived thread (this isn’t visible in the screenshot) you’ll see that several of those agreeing most enthusiastically with the OP are prolific Incels.me posters with many thousands of comments between them. Because of course.
So many things. Nerdy incels? Are you lumping nerds in with incels now? Why?
How does it work that she’s slept with incels? Incels don’t actually want to sleep with women. They want the status of a highly-desirable woman just handed to them, and they hate, HATE both women and society for not already have given this to them. They don’t want help. They don’t want love. They just want to stoke their own hateful egos.
And where is this assumption that she’s only slept with one or two people come from?
Finally, they don’t want Becky, so what’s to be jealous of?
From that nbcnews link
Well, that depends on what the parents think about it.
@idli, incels aren’t “guys who would like to have sex but aren’t.”
A couple in kolkata that are assaulted by a crowd aren’t “forced to be incel”. They’re victims of mob violence and purity culture (I hope they’re okay now, the article didn’t say. I’m glad the incident opened up some discussion at least).
As for a nickname for the incels, i don’t like the idea of completing their memetic constellation. Dan fits based on the Dans I have known, though. Mm, Rex? Maybe.
@idli
Who was it in a previous thread that named a hypothetical incel Ian Cell? I liked that.
I don’t think we should be giving them names. That’s one of the things they do to dehumanize other people.
I’m getting really, really tired of idli sambar dominating every single thread with borderline posts that are now verging on extremely problematic.
My own side-eye started when idli told me to maintain empathy for JB Peterson.
Then we have “oh, I’ll avoid clinical jargon then” – as if that’s the reason for the comments policy on ableism.
The nerdy incel thing has already been addressed by kupo, but ew ew ew.
As for the Kolkata incident – who reads that story and thinks “couple forced to be incel” ???
Specifically tho, I’m asking you, idli, to fucking stop hinting at how fucked up Indians are every single chance you get. Using a cutesy Indian food nym doesn’t exempt you. Just stop.
Co-sign with Kupo.
Co-sign with Mish.
Co sign with Kupo, Mish and Peevee.
Co-Signed.
Co signed
I couldn’t put my finger on what me made uncomfortable when I read idlis posts.
^
Empathy for Jordan Fucking Peterson? As if. The man’s raking it in from all the idiots on Patreon, and all for jabbering gibberish. He also thinks bullying is good for kids, and that a woman who says she’s been raped five times is not to be believed, because she’s a creature of darkness and chaos, or some shit like that. As a formerly bullied kid who got raped as an adult, I cannot empathize with THAT.
So yeah. Co-signing.
Absolutely co-signed.
@kupo
I can get behind that one
*Waves banner*
“POCKETS FOR WOMEN!”
For a while there about a decade ago, I was having to deal with my MRA-type brother about family issues. I had avoided him for many years because he was quite a piece of work. Also, he drank.
I legit got it into my head that he might throw acid on me. I’m not saying that the guy would ever do it, just that I got that fear — because he truly was a scary person. He never did throw acid on me and he’s dead now, so it looks like that’s not gonna happen. I still feel shaky about the whole thing.
In that same vein, he took care of my mother’s cat after my mother died. Now that cat is my cat. For a few years, her startle response — to the jingle of house keys, the crumple of aluminum foil, and the sight of a rolled-up magazine in my hands — was strong. But she’s a very tough, tenacious kitty and one of my feline role models for fearlessness-despite-fear. She’s much better now and a very happy little girl. She particularly loves aggressively bothering her dad for scritch while he tries to sleep. He always gives in.
Hey, I know ya’ll are joking, but the name Dan is kind of a trigger for me. I know I don’t really have the right to ask, being only a reader/occasional commentator, but I’d really appreciate it if you all chose a different name
Lil list of lil comments:
@Saint-Somnia
I think you certainly have the right to voice how you’re feeling. It would be awful if you had to constantly see that name attached to incels. And the name idea is a stupid one anyway. Hugs or fistbumps of solidarity to you ?
@Kat, I’m so glad the kitty is with you now. And I’m glad that you’re safe (if not without scars) ?
@kupo, Violet, everyone
POCKETS YES PLEASE OHMYGOD
I’m all for NOT giving incels any cutesy names. Or any ordinary human names that make them sound like the harmless guy next door. Let’s just call them what they are: creepers with ugly, violent fantasies that should never see the light of day.
In other words, keep calling them incels.
And yes, POCKETS PLEASE. Preferably large enough to be functional, too. I am so sick of tiny pockets, fake pockets, and a complete and utter absence of pockets.
Also: That spectacularly witless “before and after sexual revolution” graphic is curiously silent on the subjects of LGBT+ people, bachelor uncles and maiden aunts who chose that life, monks and nuns, polygamists of various religious persuasions (mostly polygynists), and the gross disparities in infant birth/death rates by gender (more boys being born, but more of them dying from natural causes as well, while girl babies are more likely to be victims of infanticide). All of which have existed before, after, and totally fucking independently of any sexual revolution.
But then, I don’t expect incelassholes to do better. The fact that they could but don’t want to is why they’re Forever Alone.
I have a bunch of skirts with good pockets in 🙂 My partner made me them.
@Dalillama
I has Pocket Envy.
They are talking about taking commissions
Re: nicknames for incels.
We already have one. Violent Tossers.
Pockets:
Partner buys clothes without pockets all the time. She just prefers the lines. Makes up for it with her favorite handbag – it’s by some designer from Gallifrey, I think.
Luckily, none of our daughters developed that quirk – most of them favor clothes designed by Rob Liefeld, like their old man. 😛