By David Futrelle
In the wake of the Toronto van attacks, the mods on Incels.me have apparently decided to hide some of the more incriminating discussions on the site. Like this little thread, which they deleted — but not before the Internet Archive’s Wayback Machine grabbed a copy of it.
I guess this thread was just a little bit too enthusiastically pro-mass-murder for its own good. 
You may notice that some of the commenters accuse the OP of being a troll from the anti-incel IncelTears subreddit. But if you go to the archived thread (this isn’t visible in the screenshot) you’ll see that several of those agreeing most enthusiastically with the OP are prolific Incels.me posters with many thousands of comments between them. Because of course.
Every one of the asshole opinion writers who try and handwave away incel’s violent rhetoric as “just letting off steam” should be required to read David’s extensive research into these men.
Oh. My. Fucking….
Wow, that is some StormFront level incitement to violence.
I believe we are going to have some real trouble with these shitheads.
I know the rest of this post is revolting, but I’m honestly amused by that stupid “Before/After Sexual Revolution” meme.
Do they really think that before the Sexual Revolution that all men got laid? Really? Because I don’t think that’s statistically possible.
Men did get rejected, men were “incels” in a sense for various reasons. Hell, monks (and nuns) are still a thing.
The Sexual Revolution just allowed women to date and find men who weren’t bitter assholes, and they wouldn’t have to be stuck with for the rest of their lives. And they’re super fucking mad because now they can’t compete with people who actually go out (or go on the internet) and talk to people like they’re people and aren’t bittered, entitled assholes who think they’re owed top-tier femoids simply because they exist and have a dick.
I can’t be shocked by that thread. I mean, we’ve been looking at them saying that sort of garbage for years now.
I’m glad the wayback machine captured it, and with your growing reputation I hope that the media will see it, too.
traditionalists/right-wingers/misogynists love to talk about how leftists/feminists are wilting lilies that can’t handle the real world, but the memory hole is a very right-wing impulse. Case in point.
Spine chilling. I’m convinced psychopathy is more prevalent than we’ve ever imagined.
And what’s this “Becky” thing and “pre-sexual revolution” fantasy that they would have gotten somebody back then? If anything it probably would have been harder? Maybe? If only because family was more involved in dating/marriage choices and you had to make it past someone’s parents to get to them? Of course you could always fake it but something tells me these extreme, hateful guys wouldn’t be able to fake it.
This entitlement to other people’s bodies attitude has to be the most disgusting attitude ever encountered and is the source for all of the world’s misery, from slavery to this.
Also, even in arranged marriage cultures (what they think would be utopia for them), people are forced to be incel before marriage even if they have bf/gf, and are more often than not arranged to marry someone they don’t want to. And if you don’t have offers from other families, not just an individual boy or girl, but an entire family, then you could remain single and celibate you’re entire life. The competition is actually stiffer in such cultures because “feelz” isn’t the bargaining chip, but family upward mobility. So that would totally leave these guys out.
Really, these guys need to globe trot and see how good they actually have it.
Their idea of “Becky vs Stacy” is. Well it’s as stupid as everything else I guess
https://twitter.com/jenashleywright/status/991365131421569025?s=21
Oddly – found out today. Got this came across my twitter feed:
Edit: pic didn’t work but it don’t matter. Amavra ninja’d me – same graphic.
My eyes. It burn.
It do reinforce the notions that they are dangerous terrorist, not poor little things whose society is too hard with.
Once again: THESE are the guys we’re supposed to feel sorry for? No thanks.
Of course there’s now a conspiracy theory that incel is a psyop to tarnish TFL. And then an even weirdo one which I posted about before; the CIA MKultra sleepercel.
As a woman named Becky who probably is exactly what they mean by a ‘Becky’ — I’ve gotta say that look back with great delight at all the wonderful times I had before these poison drips seeped in and started to ruin everything.
There were things about growing up during the 70’s which were fine.
idli –
No internet diagnosing. Please read the comments policy.
Re: the post – I’ve never heard of Becky before either!
That before/after sexual revolution graphic has been floating around the manosphere for several years now. I believe it was featured on Hooking Up Smart at some point, although I don’t know if it originated there.
I’m pretty sure that misogynists know perfectly well that men weren’t really guaranteed a partner back in the pre-feminism days. It’s just a thinly veiled justification for rape.
Idli : psychopathy isn’t that. Don’t try to diagnose over an internet message, and remember to not take your hint from Hollywood.
sigh.
Please read the site rules, @idli sambar revolution. Specifically the part about not internet-diagnosing mental disorders.
A mental disorder is not required for being a murderous, entitled asshole. There’s nothing about them that requires them to have a mental illness of any kind. All it requires is hate and a feeling of entitlement, neither of which are a mental illness.
You’re very right that they’re entitled, awful, miserable people, but let’s not throw people with mental illnesses into the same bucket as them.
Acid attacks. Omg. These guys are pro-terrorist.
There’s nothing about them that requires them to have a mental illness of any kind. All it requires is hate and a feeling of entitlement, neither of which are a mental illness.
You’re very right that they’re entitled, awful, miserable people, but let’s not throw people with mental illnesses into the same bucket as them.
From a Buddhist perspective, which is generally one of the perspectives I look at things from, hate and entitlement are certainly mental illnesses, but I understand you are speaking from the clinical psychology perspective, so noted, and will refrain from using clinical jargon.
Not pro-terrorist, my friend. They’re far past merely being pro now.
The correct answer is just “Sorry, I will stop doing it”, not “I’m going to get the last word proving I was totally correct but will adhere to the site rules despite that”
Eye-fucking-roll.
Also, if you can use italics then you know how to blockquote, you’re simply refusing to.
I hope the FBI see it.
I’m glad you agree, @Idli. Though I wish you could understand how harmful it is to think of them in the same terms as the people they often hurt. I’ll take what I can get.
… I’m glad someone posted an explanation of the Becky thing because I was very confused by it. The only slang usage of ‘Becky’ I’d been familiar with was Black people using it to refer to racist or racially insensitive white women (or something like that), and I couldn’t figure out what the hell that had to do with incels and Stacy.
That said, it is beyond me how anyone can see things like this and instinctively go “those poor awkward incels, if only they could get laid”. This is a circlejerk of hatred and terrorism.
Yeah, at this point people are mostly going to see Becky and think “Becky with the good hair” from the Beyonce song.