By David Futrelle
So here’s a screenshot floating around the internet that offers a sensible, common-sense solution to the problem of incels literally murdering people because they’re angry no hot women with have sex with them.
And by “sensible” and” “common-sense” I mean, “what the fucking fuck is this fuckery?”
Here’s the full text if you’d rather not squint at that:
People make is sound as if the “Incel Rebellion” is a laughing matter and that people don’t understand problem.
The incels are not the problem, but rather they are a symptom that something is very wrong in our society — and unless their legitimate grievances are addressed this could very soon spiral out of control just like what happened in Iraq, Libya and Syria when their respective governments refused to address and deal with the legitimate grievances a portion of their popolation had.
Calling the Incels a bunch of virgins and “frustrated losers with communication skills equal to that of an autistic potato” is oversimplifying the problem yes they are all that but why are they frustrated virgins?
The real issue is that with the advancement of makeup, healthy at any size bullshit, feminism and through social engineering a lot of women have become detached from reality. The reason these Incels arn’t getting laid is because women with a sexual market value equal to theirs use makeup to go from a 3/10 – 7/10 (false marketing in my opinion and should be a punishable offense) to fuck with men above their league.
So I propose that rather than making Incels look bad we look at the reasons they’ve become this way and what steps we can take to deconflict and reverse things because, let’s be real calling them names, labeling them a terrorist organization etc isn’t going to make the problem go away.
There are several ways I propose we do this:
1) Women are no longer allowed to wear makeup, ie falsely advertise their beauty and hence stop them from banging guys above their league.
2) Women are only allowed to date men with equal sexual market value to them. State-mandated tests should be made and everyone get a sexual-market value card ranging from 1/10 to 10/10, like an ID card.
3) Every time a woman sleeps with a new man she lose one 1 rank on her sexual-market value card until she reach the lowest rank 1/10.
4) There’s no way to rise through the ranks other than through excercise
5) Women with more than 9 sexual partners and single moms should be forced by the state to date and have sex with incels that can’t get any women despite the above changes.
This would deal with the problem not the symptom and is the ay we deal with everything from counter-piracy to counter- terrorism. The incel threat is real and should be treated the same way.
Though I haven’t been able to track this screenshot to its source, my guess — as someone who has been reading this sort of shit for years — is that it’s a sincere post from an incel sympathizer. If it’s a parody, and I really don’t think it is, it’s pitch-perfect, written by someone who has utterly mastered contemporary internet misogynist logic.
H/T — r/BadEconomics via Talia Lavin on Twitter.
OK –
In in under an hour! I did just make dinner and we did just chow it down!
Sammiches……
I made tuna. Steak. Grilled tuna steaks with lemon and butter sauce, on toasted buns, with lettuce, tomato, mayo, cheddar cheese, and spicy brown mustard.
Plus fries (Arby’s curly fries, they have them at stores now and you bake them in the oven.)
Yes I made these sammiches for me and my lady friends.
And yes they were EXCELLENT if I do say so myself! 😀
Friends are nodding along and did help too, one went to the liquor store, the other helped me prep things.
And all for us, boo hoo to the Involuntarily Sandwich Less.
Oh, and of course plenty of ice cold beer 🙂
This may be sarcasm, but it fell flat for me, especially given the context of all your other posts.
@Paradox
Thank you for another wondrously pleasing post.
Hahaha I’ve had exactly one orchid ever survive, and it was one I got from my old boss that my ex just stuffed in a pot with a couple succulents and a little like bulby-tubey-houseplant thing. It got left on the front porch and it’s lived for like ten years now.
Not only has the damn thing flowered every year, it’s *fruited* and I have no goddamned idea how that’s even possible. Nobody takes care of it aside from a splash of water every couple days.
Are we just going to ignore that Moggie made a GunBuster reference a little bit ago?!
…Sorry, my Anime dog-ears went up on that one. I’ll see myself back to the basement.
@zlz
We don’t do that here.
@zlz
Dont even with me I’m mentally ill so please watch your words they hurt
This is a question I’m honestly hesitant to ask, because I’m not sure I want to know the answer, which is why I haven’t gone looking at incel forums for it. But…
How exactly is the “incel rebellion” meant to work? Specifically, how does it account for the fact that one of the Toronto victims was a 94 year old?
Another of the women killed was 83. One of the others was 80.
I mean, the oldest victim, Betty Forsyth, was 70 years past the stage at which these dumbnotfucks even acknowledge women exist. How do they defend this? Is she paying for not having fucked an incel 75 years ago or something?
Are they totally ignoring her? Or is it justifiable homicide (i.e., terrorism), because that’ll make dem dumb bitches listen?
Do they really think praising someone who killed a 94 year old is going to make all the HB10s get wet in the panties, or at least scared enough to sleep with them?
Or are they just pretending that bit didn’t happen?
(And let it be noted that the three oldest women killed were among the four or five “whitest” victims, depending on your particular racist-o-meter. Does killing them not matter because they were past their breeding age and thus no longer of any use to the race? Or are they acceptable losses because 7 people with “foreign” names got killed too?)
As I say, I’m not actually sure I want to know. But morbid curiosity is a thing.
They don’t care who dies. At all.
This system would guarantee that no woman would be able to both date AND have sex with a man. Since she would only be able to date someone with her exact SMV number, she’d start dating him, but the second they have sex, her SMV would drop by a point and she would be forced to stop dating him.
Well, assuming 1/10 is the lowest you can go, I suppose there could be committed relationships between 1/10s. Except that 1/10 women apparently are forced to be communal sex slaves, so I guess not even then. At least not committed and monogamous relationships.
I’m pretty sure they just think that if everyone fears sexually frustrated young men, that either governments will give into their demands and provide HB10 sex slaves for them or governments will not give into their demands and everyone will remain afraid. Which is probably just as fun for them.
In reality, I think trolling for specific victims and finding a way to carry out murders without being caught for a good long while is really difficult. Takes a lot of work and planning. We all know incels are allergic to putting effort in to anything besides whining on the internet. So why not just go for a single mass murder with indiscriminate victims. Much easier.
Actually, has anyone noticed we don’t have famous serial killers anymore? I wonder if this is because criminal investigations are so much more sophisticated that it’s hard to get away with serial killing unless you target marginalized populations that the public and media won’t get upset about? So, instead all the wannabe serial killers are doing gun or vehicular mass murders? Sorry if this topic is overly morbid. It just seems like these types of murderers always exist, but they stay on trend for their MO. It’s weird.
So a serial killer known as the “Golden State Killer” was recently captured, and reports are starting to surface that he was motivated by his fiancee “breaking his heart.” If this is born out, expect him to join the Incel pantheon with Saint Eliot any day now.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5669153/Suspected-Golden-State-Killers-love-Bonnie-revealed.html
Look at that headline: “broke his heart?” “sparked his rape and murder spree?” Talk about victim-blaming/sympathizing with the bad guy.
“And instead of settling down with a suspected mass murderer, she married a successful accountant who went on to be a partner in a multi-million-dollar firm.”
So this Stacy dumped him for a Chad? I think I’m saying that right- this story is tailor-made for incels to jump on. And if they were capable of shame, I’d say shame on The Daily Mail for framing it this way.
@WWTH
Do you mean famous as in “well-known threat before being caught” kind of serial killer, or them being less famous after their crimes have come to light? Because I agree with the former, that it definitely seems like there are fewer “Jack the Ripper” kind of killers in the news. The famous Canadian serial killers that come to mind are those who were only really well-known after they were caught (except by the populations which were being preyed on prior to the arrest). Pickton and Bruce McArthur killed sex workers and gay men respectively, and operated for many years before finally being caught and actually talked about, because the system just didn’t care about those demographics.
I was thinking the former. But really either. The only times I can think of in recent years where a serial killer was a huge news story are the times in which decades old cases were solved. Like Golden State and Green River killers. I think the one exception was when BTK reactivated and then got caught.
There are certainly plenty of famous murders in the news, but Ted Bundy or Son of Sam type cases? Not so much anymore.
But I do suspect there are plenty of serial killers targeting sex workers and transients without anyone noticing or caring.
Definitely fewer open, taunt-the-cops types. I wonder if it’s because the obvious way of announcing yourself these days makes it easier for you to get caught? Posting disturbing videos on youtube isn’t the best idea, so it’s more likely the showoff types are caught early?
idli sambar revolution: Wait, I thought it was Tchad?!
@Otrame
Thanks! That post is full of good tips, I’m going to give some of them a try next time I have the heart to invest in an orchid (I just had two die and I feel a bit sad right now)
@kupo: I think that might be fguy’s new sock who wrote that. 😛
@Jurgan
There is no point trying to shame the Daily Fail. It’s like trying to shame Trump. You can’t shame an organism which is incapable of feeling embarrassment or caring about anyone’s feelings. Only newspaper in the UK to openly support Hitler, and they’ve gone downhill from there.
@wwth
I do know that there is a gentleman’s agreement among some (sadly not all) news organisations not to publish taunting letters or publicise serial killers’ accounts of themselves. Current thinking among the media and the police is that killers/rapists feed off that publicity and it encourages copycats. So there is a general consensus that coverage should focus on the victim rather than the killer. In situations like that often the media (should) work very closely with the police in terms of what they are releasing and what statements are being made. I think there is a clear move away from the kind of circus that you got around Bundy and I think it’s deliberate – those guys were turned into celebrities which is a strong motivator for others to do the same. The police are playing their cards closer and the media are more aware of how much they influence killers.
You do sometimes hear after conviction of taunting letters, YouTube videos etc – I think they do go on but don’t necessarily get publicity any more.
A modicum of common sense would dictate that when you start a new, possibly lifelong sexual relationship with a man, your loss of SMV only applies to any other men you might date in the future.
…did I say common sense? There we go again.
WWTH:
Speaking of which,
Is it just my faulty memory, or media bias, or did vehicular mass attacks basically not exist until a couple years ago?
IIRC, it started with the Nice attacker. He killed some 80 people and injured hundreds, which seems to have been an extraordinary success for this kind of attack. Maybe it made terrorists think of car attack as a generally worthwhile tactic. Maybe it caused the western media to freak out over every new car attack that kills a few people, especially when it’s Islamist terrorism. This would create a somewhat self-perpetuating cycle of fear.
@Brinjabreel
My mother had a technique when a plant just refused to thrive. She more or less did what you describe, put it off to the side and more or less ignore it. Sometimes we give plants too much attention.
Is your orchid epiphytic or one of the kind that grow in soil? From your description, I suspect the latter. In any case, it’s wonderful that it is thriving for you. They are so beautiful.
@Lumipuna
Apparently the rise started ~2010, originally in Israel/Palestine, though the first recorded instance of a vehicular mass attack was in 1973 (and not politically motivated). The rise is partially due to increased publicity and partially due to ease of access: bombs take skills to make, guns are pretty regulated most places, etc. Practically anyone can get their hands on a vehicle, and it doesn’t take any organizational support or cooperative cohorts to commit such an attack.
Thanks, Dalillama.
Now that I think about it, sounds plausible that before social media, random misfits wouldn’t be radicalized that easily, and recruits in terrorist groups would have better access to more effective methods.
Hello.
First, congratulations David for all those articles reaching known media !
Thanks also Ikeke35, these are interesting links.
No. It is not oversimplifying, it is an insult against virgins, against autistic humans and against potatoes.
I do not not about involuntary celibates, but you are, clearly, voluntary assholes, volasses.
And social competition is annoying enough without your “market” and “league” bullshit. World is not a fucking dating sim, nor a management sim. So you can roll your idea, make it pointy, and put it in your place where the sun does not shine.
At least, we agree on that : you should be treated the same way terrorists are, as extremists from head to toes. Your ability to transform your first world problem to a hate machina only make you deserve loathing and constant scrutinity.
Have a nice day.