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“Crying Nazi” Chris Cantwell wants mixed-race women to become “breeding opportunities” for racist white dudes

Thirty minutes into Netflix and breed and he gives you this look

By David Futrelle

The last time we checked in on alt-right gun enthusiast Christopher Cantwell, the infamous “crying Nazi” arrested on weapons charges after the debacle in Charlottesville last summer, he was battling online with fellow alt-rightists angry that he had agreed to become an informant for the FBI — which he claimed was part of an ingenious master plan to give the FBI dirt on antifascist activists.

Still, the attacks directed at him by fellow racists don’t seem to have diminished his own enthusiasm for an alt-right white ethnostate. Cantwell, out on bond, is still spewing out racist nonsense on his internet radio show. But it’s what Cantwell, a former contributor to antifeminist hate site A Voice for Men, is saying about women that is truly astonishing.

Let’s start with the racism. In a rambling diatribe posted on his site earlier this month, Cantwell rails against the US intervening further in Syria, warning Trump that

No matter how many wars you wage for the Jews, no matter how many sons and daughters you give them, they will always oppose your efforts to Make America Great Again, because subversion runs through their veins. 

Waxing apocalyptic, he warns of the race war to end all race wars.

We are on the brink of planetary racial cataclysm the likes of which the world has never seen, and from which we may never recover. The white race has been overrun in Europe and the United States. If we were to defeat Russia militarily, what sizable homeland would whites have remaining? …

White power has become a dirty phrase in the modern political lexicon, and that is exceedingly unfortunate, because it is precisely that power which has made civilization possible. We may well be nearing the point at which that power fades from history, and the savagery we have sacrificed so much to stave off eclipses the whole of the Earth.

No racist dogwhistles for Cantwell; he just straight up blares an airhorn while doing a Nazi salute.

Speaking of which:

Adolf Hitler was not some madman bent on mass murder for his own entertainment. He recognized a growing danger to the whole of humanity, and he resolved that he would stop at nothing to protect us from that threat. 

However hair-raising Cantwell’s remarks on Hitler are, he isn’t particularly original in his racism. It’s when he starts talking about women that things begin to get really, er, interesting.

In the comments to the post I’ve been quoting, Cantwell found himself in an argument with Radio Aryan head boy “Sven Longshanks” on the best way to make sure there are enough women to go around in their future white ethnostate. Cantwell, well aware that the current alt-right movement is just a tad male-heavy, suggests that maybe, just maybe, they should think about allowing some non-white ladies in to their imaginary white utopia, for breeding purposes.

Imagine we manage to pull off our political migration and secede Maine and New Hampshire for white nationalists. We shockingly enough find ourselves in a situation that resembles our conferences, in that the vast majority of participants are male, creating a dangerous gender disparity which threatens the stability of our nation.

HOW WILL WE MAKE THE WHITE BABIES WITHOUT THE WHITE LADIES BECAUSE EVEN THE RACIST WHITE LADIES HATE US?

Cantwell has a somewhat out-of-the-box solution:

We update our immigration policy to permit women, but not men, of less than perfect genetic integrity into the country. You wouldn’t want to flood the place with negresses …

JFC, dude.

… but say you let half asian or half latina women come into the country, creating a gender disparity in the opposite direction, and legalize polygyny. 

And then it’s time to make the babies!

Most of Cantwell’s colleagues on the racist right would see this as “white genocide,” given that the children of mixed-race couples are, by definition, also mixed-race. But Cantwell sees this sort of “race-mixing” as the solution to “white genocide.”

Cantwell even considers setting aside his anti-abortion beliefs so the future inhabitants of his imaginary ethnostate will be able to protect themselves from the specter of not-quite-white-enough men.

We further institute a sex selective abortion policy, so that the only male children allowed to be born are of sufficiently pure lineage.

To say that this would not produce people as white as me inside of a few generations is just plain untrue. We are absolutely capable of breeding out undesirable traits through intelligent eugenic practices, but we need to think about it instead of, dare I say it, purity spiraling.

Er, isn’t a white ethnostate pretty much the ultimate incarnation of “purity spiralling?”

I do not take any of this lightly, and I do not think it ideal, but you might recall that I opened up the show concerned that yet another Jew provoked war between white countries threatened our very existence. I genuinely fear that we are on the brink of extinction, and intelligently depriving non-white males of breeding opportunities, while maximizing our own reproductive success, is a dirty tactic of race war which our enemies have made spectacular use of.

To Cantwell, evidently, women are little more than ambulatory “breeding opportunities.” He seems to have mistaken The Handmaid’s Tale for a how-to manual.

This sort of emotional dedication to immediate racial purity, in my opinion, threatens the survival of our race by putting principles ahead of practical necessity. Women are territory, and non-whites are conquering us by conquering our women.

I’ll just repeat that last bit, because woah:

Women are territory, and non-whites are conquering us by conquering our women.

If we refuse to retaliate in kind, we are making the same error that libertarians and constitutionalists make when trying to deal with the Left. We are refusing to wield the most powerful weapon of the conflict, our own dicks, and we thereby forfeit the fight.

Yes, that’s right. He really did just say “the most powerful weapon of the conflict, our own dicks.”

Is Cantwell serious about all of this? Probably not when it comes to the “sex selective abortion policy.” But he seems to believe the rest of his nonsense. I have no doubt that he sees women as little more than “breeding opportunities” and considers his dick to be “the most powerful weapon of the conflict.” Because of course. For guys like this, it always comes back to their dicks.

However horrifying all this is, I have detected a small flaw in Cantwell’s plan.

If the alt-right is so grotesquely misogynistic that it can’t even convince racist white women to come to its conferences and demonstrations, how on earth would they manage to convince mixed-race women to come to the Nazi Republic of Maine as “breeding opportunities” for men who think that women like them are basically impure “mongrels?” I can’t imagine many mixed-race women, no matter how desperate, would jump at the opportunity to become some sort of brood mare sister wife living in a cabin in the Maine woods with some random dude who likes dressing up as Hitler.

These proud knights of the master race aren’t always so good at thinking things through, are they?

H/T — Thanks to the reader, who wishes to remain anonymous, who pointed me to Cantwell’s comments

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MrsObedMarsh
MrsObedMarsh
2 years ago

Cantwell’s schemes remind me of how Robert E. Howard – the pulp author who invented Conan the Barbarian – would sometimes use WOC as love interests for his white heroes. Howard is often careful to specify that the women are part white, apparently to help justify the heroes’ attraction to WOC to a 1930s audience.

Dvärghundspossen
Dvärghundspossen
2 years ago

It’s the same in Verne’s “around the world in eighty days”. Auoda is described as being very light-skinned for an Indian, very “civilized”, she’s got relatives in Europe and so on. If I remember correctly she wasn’t partially white in that she didn’t have white ancestors, but Verne clearly wanted to impress on his readers how similar she was to a European.

EJ (The Other One)
2 years ago

Re alt-Right women possibly doing it for attention: I’m not sure it matters. In my opinion, Fascism is something one does, not something one is.

When Tila Tequila rebranded herself as a neo-Nazi, it didn’t matter whether she was doing it for attention or she sincerely believed it: what mattered was that she went out there and spread neo-Nazi ideas.

Intent is not always meaningless, but I’d say in this case it is.

Binjabreel
Binjabreel
2 years ago

Re: alt right women

I’m just talking out my butt, but a common recurring theme among right wing ideologues (not just women) who started out liberal and veered right is that they’re generally insenscire and shallow thinking about *everything* and my hunch is the left is generally a bit better at spotting that sort of bullshit and shunning it. Then they interpret that as being oppressed or being attacked for violating the orthodoxy and react by moving right to defend their self image as an intellectual.

But this is just me spitballing with a psych degree, so it’s worth about as much as a wad of chewed parchment paper.

Katamount
Katamount
2 years ago

Anyway, I can’t quite remember which bit of the Dune series it was mentioned in (probably heretics, or chapter house), but I seem to recall that the ‘tanks’ were described as ‘immobile in their vastness’. Still, everyone likes strange-fetishy pictures of skinny ladies, eh?

And yet I oddly couldn’t find any that fit that description in a Google image search.

Yeah, might be better off to delete that image, Dave….

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
2 years ago

Isn’t it a plot point in the Dune series that the Tleilaxu allow the myth to spread that the tanks are just some mechanical device to hide their true nature?

(Ages since I read them)

Katamount
Katamount
2 years ago

@Binjabreel

I’m just talking out my butt, but a common recurring theme among right wing ideologues (not just women) who started out liberal and veered right is that they’re generally insenscire and shallow thinking about *everything* and my hunch is the left is generally a bit better at spotting that sort of bullshit and shunning it. Then they interpret that as being oppressed or being attacked for violating the orthodoxy and react by moving right to defend their self image as an intellectual.

I think part of the problem is the definition of “liberal.” Lindsay Shepherd (the obnoxious Wilfrid Laurier student who got yelled at) recently played his gambit too with a whole “I’m not leaving the Left, the Left left me!” spiel. How did she peg herself as being on the left? Because she supported gay marriage and thought climate change was real. That’s it.

That’s not “liberalism”, that’s two political positions that take no risk in holding and don’t impact you directly. With a lot of these people, they strike me as being politically uninterested until they personally felt some blowback from a terrible opinion. And that’s a best case scenario. More likely they probably had those opinions already kinda swimming around their subconscious, unsure about voicing it.

Katamount
Katamount
2 years ago

Isn’t it a plot point in the Dune series that the Tleilaxu allow the myth to spread that the tanks are just some mechanical device to hide their true nature?

Everything they do is clandestine, so probably. Been ages since I read ’em too.

bluecat
bluecat
2 years ago

Women are territory, and non-whites are conquering us by conquering our women.

Yeah, Cantwell’s not going to care about “persuading” whoever he’s got the hots for to come join him in lovely Nazilandia.

“Oh, my America, my new found land” as someone once wrote about something… Though at least in Donne’s poem the woman was more than territory, in that she could “license” him to explore.

Am I right in thinking that the maunderings about sex – selection for males with “sufficient purity” would mean forced abortions of mixed race enslaved women if they turned out to be carrying males?

bluecat
bluecat
2 years ago

Blockquote monster got me!

Aerinea
Aerinea
2 years ago

Ugh, I think I understand what he’s getting at, and it’s a messed up “dilution” idea. It’s really gross, so be advised to stop reading now if you don’t want to read me going into what I think is the idea behind his twisted thinking.

I think what he’s getting at is that, given a population of “pure” white men and a population of white & mixed race sex slaves, if you abort all male embryos from the mixed race women’s pregnancies, only allowing them to birth more sex slaves, then they can effectively “breed out” the ostensibly undesirable ethnic traits. Only women who are deemed white enough by some twisted standard will be permitted to have sons. That’s what the sex-selective abortions are all about. So instead of whiteness being diluted by those horrible nonwhite people, white men get to dilute their ethnic standing instead.

Like I said, it’s twisted, disgusting, and very, very wrong. It’s probably also more than a little fetishistic.

I think I need a shower now.

Eldridge the Cleaver
Eldridge the Cleaver
2 years ago

@Binjabreel

The whole “once a heretic, now a zealot” shtick is very common on the right.

The prototypical example of this is the former-left neoliberal. Johan Norberg is the typical example of this. He claims to have once been a left-anarchist, but left the far-left because of the “collectivist themes” of major anarchist works and he thought classical liberalism “took freedom seriously”. If he actually read those works, he’d know that freedom on the far-left is not defined by one’s ability to engage in capitalist exploitation but in having all one’s needs met. Methinks he’s either lying or realized that whoring himself out to Timbro paid the bills better.

Anti-feminists also fit this profile frequently.

I have enormous amounts of difficulty believing Christina Hoff Sommers was once a feminist. There’s absolutely no recorded evidence of this being the case and the sheer amount of things she gets wrong about mainstream feminist theory either means she’s ignorant or lying.

What’s also interesting is that academics that pander to fringe right-wing ideologies typically tend to be third-rate hacks that couldn’t get tenure. Look up Christina Hoff Sommers on JSTOR. You’ll find less than 10 hits. Compare to more than 25K hits for Judith Butler, an academic in the very same field as her.

Eldridge the Cleaver
Eldridge the Cleaver
2 years ago

I seriously wonder how tortured a soul one must be to engage in this level of racism and misogyny.

I read somewhere that the alt-right recruits in depression support communities. That could serve to explain a bit.

Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
2 years ago

if you abort all male embryos from the mixed race women’s pregnancies, only allowing them to birth more sex slaves, then they can effectively “breed out” the ostensibly undesirable ethnic traits

This is kind of Aryan selection breeding program could be done, theoretically, over many generations, but it doesn’t really have anything to do with sex selection. I doubt Cantwell understands what he’s talking about.

Gaebolga
Gaebolga
2 years ago

Lumipuna wrote:

This is kind of Aryan selection breeding program could be done, theoretically, over many generations, but it doesn’t really have anything to do with sex selection.

Exactly; Cantwont’s “plan” is a kernel of knowledge about breeding techniques horribly distorted by some really fucked up sexual issues, all seen through the filter of racism and misogyny.

Pie
Pie
2 years ago

@Katamount

All my Dune books are in storage, but happily the internet has conveniently searchable copies of all of them, and here’s the relevant quote from Heretics of Dune:

He remembered emerging time after time: bright lights and padded mechanical
hands. The hands rotated him and, in the unfocused blurs of the newborn, he saw a great mound of female flesh — monstrous in her almost immobile grossness… a maze of dark tubes linked her body to giant metal containers.

Axlotl tank?

@Alan Robertshaw:

Isn’t it a plot point in the Dune series that the Tleilaxu allow the myth to spread that the tanks are just some mechanical device to hide their true nature?

Yeah, that was the big reveal, I think.

I only realized at that point that the Tleilaxu masters were in fact all male… they were quiet alien after all, and what they kept in their pants and what they liked to do with it wasn’t really discussed.

Vanir (@Vanir85)
Vanir (@Vanir85)
2 years ago

Oh yeah, no flaws with this plan at all. I’m sure “mixed” women would line right up to join their ethno-state.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
2 years ago

@ Pie

The Dune Encyclopedia (which I think is a great addition to the series) has quite a bit about how Face Dancers work. They’re engineered to be intersex so they can impersonate anyone. (And it’s discussed in some detail, including where they tuck things)

Katamount
Katamount
2 years ago

@Pie

Ah, the miracle of birth… all that was missing was the machine that went *PING*.

@Alan Robertshaw

Dune Encyclopedia, eh? I must get my hands on that.

Moon_custafer
Moon_custafer
2 years ago

in the unfocused blurs of the newborn, he saw a great mound of female flesh —

Mind you, from the PoV of a newborn infant, isn’t *any* woman going to look like that?

Ooglyboggles
Ooglyboggles
2 years ago

Huh, where did this Emasculatome come from?

Brony, Social Justice Cenobite

@Binjabreel
As support people who have created actual fake news businesses have observed that the left is not as prone to the stories.
https://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2016/11/23/503146770/npr-finds-the-head-of-a-covert-fake-news-operation-in-the-suburbs

We’ve tried to do similar things to liberals. It just has never worked, it never takes off. You’ll get debunked within the first two comments and then the whole thing just kind of fizzles out.

Brony, Social Justice Cenobite

@Katamount
And yeah, the left/right or divide or liberal is somewhat garbage. I much prefer to lable behavior.

“Conservative” was better to tag those who left-identify and got called out for sexism/racism than “right” for example. Not to mention the people confused about supporting Trump or Bernie Sanders…

Talonknife
Talonknife
2 years ago

Do these guys ever actually stop and logic through their ideology? Wouldn’t Jewish people secretly manipulating white people into a race war be acting against their own interests since most Jews (at least in the U.S.) are, y’know, white?

MrsObedMarsh
MrsObedMarsh
2 years ago

@Talonknife:

Simple: Nazis don’t think of Jews as white

There is also some current debate (in both white supremacist culture and in the wider culture) about whether Iranians are white, and back in the day the Irish and Southern/Eastern Europeans were considered non-white. Even Ben Franklin talked about how most Germans were not “purely white” and should be excluded from British colonies for that and other reasons in a piece echoing modern conservative rhetoric on non-white immigration.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

I wonder if they think Jewish people who publicly self identify as white are lying to try to trick gentiles into mistakenly believing Jewish people can white? Or maybe they wear white face makeup around non-Jewish people and then go home at night and wash their faces to reveal their brown skin.

There’s some overlap with white supremacists and those who believe in lizard people so my attempt to mock them is probably running into a Poe’s law problem right now.

mildlymagnificent
mildlymagnificent
2 years ago

I’m inclined to think that some of those claiming to have changed from this thing to that thing are among the temporary zealots of the population.

I’ve known a few people who were very difficult to meet up with on an occasional basis. When they were 20 they were anarchists or animal rights activists or went surfing every hour they could. By the time they’ve reached 25 they’ve abandoned that and been through wicca, rock-climbing, nudist beaches and now found Buddha/ Jesus/ Mohammed. If you see or hear of them a decade later they’ve established a profitable hydroponics market garden for salad vegetables and then dropped it completely in favour of some weird version of paleo when they took up macrame, party politics or re-wilding rivers.

What they seem to be looking for is a perpetual version of the zealotry of the recent non-smoker or religious convert. Ideas, principles and values are a good thing, but not enough for people like this because they ‘need’ that buzz of new love, new job, new ideas, new place to live – all at once. And that kind of intensity is pretty hard to maintain. It’s much easier to keep the attitude and the enthusiasm and apply it to yet another upheaval in your family’s life.

Fruitloopsie
Fruitloopsie
2 years ago

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Can we enslave white men or commit ‘white genocide’ or whatever now? Thanks, this would most certainly please the great goddess Katie and the Fempire.

I know this is over a year old but it still breaks my heart to this day.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/08/26/i-shot-dad-the-tragic-case-of-a-child-who-killed-his-abusive-neo-nazi-father/?utm_term=.c0835eb5d944

Ghost Robot
Ghost Robot
2 years ago

As a white man who has chosen not to have kids, I laugh in the face of these Nazi losers. At least I chose my position after much soul-searching, whereas these sad cases will be childless because no woman will ever go near them.

occasional reader
occasional reader
2 years ago

We are refusing to wield the most powerful weapon of the conflict, our own dicks

So this is from there that comes the “going commando” stuff…

V05
V05
2 years ago

In Brazil, they ran a eugenics program which involved importing European immigrants to breed out the natives and african population.

Latin America did this too with the Casta system. Argentina did this specifically with their african slave populations. They deliberately recruited african males for cannon fodder in the Paraguyan War and forced the women to marry white men.
Its a sick, disgusting fantasy he and these altrighters have.

Who?
Who?
2 years ago

To defend Howard and Verne, they wrote their works a long time again, racism was much more acepted at that time. (And one of the leading editors of Howards time was a hell of a racist)

This whole think is actually a bit suprising for me, I though they wanted people to be “pure white”. (what is rubish)

Jewish people are so non-white that special names and markers were needed to identifie them.

(OT I should perhaps read more of Dune then the first book some time)

slightly annoyed
slightly annoyed
2 years ago

As a proud New England resident and a person who grew up in New Hampshire and attended school and college in Maine, I say FUCK OFF, with the idea that those states would become their ad hoc “white ethnostate”.
New England doesn’t curry to that racist bullshit. Not now, not ever.

And to any of the actual racist nazis that do live in those states. “YOU’RE the minority. Kindly do every decent human being a favor and walk directly into the ocean.”

Thanks!

Nightflyer
Nightflyer
2 years ago

Hi, folks…I’m obviously new here, and this is my first post.

First, this is a shocking but fascinating article. I commend management for writing it, and have shared it.

I also want to commend the various commenters on the site for their intelligence, wisdom, and caustic wit, not to mention some clever names and avatars.

As far as Cryin’ Chris Cantwell goes…it’s pretty clear that this guy’s idea of asking women out on dates consists of him telling some blonde that her duty to the white race was to provide him with cooking and kids. When the blondes reacted to that by yelling “SECURITY!” or something similar, he found relief for his overheated hormones by making whores moan through financial transactions. That has given him the idea that there are a lot of women who can be hired to come to the Aryan Republic of Maine to serve as Handmaids.

Furthermore, reading his stuff, I don’t think this man has the slightest capacity for human empathy in his entire life. It does not exist for him. The fact that he so easily sells out his buddies shows that he only exists to gratify his own pleasures and has a sense of entitlement the size of North Dakota. Because he was not granted all his desires based on his melanin content (as opposed to his education), he is infuriated at a vaguely-defined conspiracy that seeks to deny him his rightful position in life. I have no sympathy for him.

He can go to jail, go directly to jail, do not pass Go, do not receive $200.

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
2 years ago

Imagine we manage to pull off our political migration and secede Maine and New Hampshire for white nationalists

http://www.watermarkonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Maine-Republican-Gov.-Paul-LePage.jpg
Can’t say they aren’t making a foothold at least…

Dalillama
Dalillama
2 years ago

@Who?
Verne was perhaps a tad less racist than the average Frenchman of his day, which is still pretty racist; the most that can be said for Howard is that he wasn’t exceptionally racist for a friend of HP Lovecraft…

mobiusclimber
mobiusclimber
2 years ago

Sounds like he watched Zardoz and just got it backwards…

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AnonBaby
AnonBaby
2 years ago

how on earth would they manage to convince mixed-race women to come to the Nazi Republic of Maine as “breeding opportunities” for men who think that women like them are basically impure “mongrels?”

I think he means to sneak across the border to other states and abduct women like….like…Boko Haram.

And yeah, it all begins and ends with their dicks. They are young-ish, anti-social, racist white males who want to eschew the social rules of civilized society while still gaining the benefits of it.

littlem
littlem
2 years ago

I came here to join the conversation as usual but I have to register a complaint with this … thoughtless-at-best comment:

https://wehuntedthemammoth.com/2018/04/22/crying-nazi-chris-cantwell-wants-mixed-race-women-to-become-breeding-opportunities-for-racist-white-dudes/comment-page-2/#comment-2090180

Racism is NEVER “acceptable”. That is an incredibly Eurocentric (and offensive) view.

There is no “academic” discussion to be had about “whether or not it’s historically accurate”, either. Whoever says racism was “acceptable back then” has certainly not thought of its “acceptability” from the point of view of people of color “back then”, and that’s just plain old clueless myopic behavior (and borderline racist itself for being so).

The audience here is NOT all white, and I’d think people would be less tactless, particularly in the current political climate.

And quite frankly I’m not interested in hearing any slop about “intent”, either. That discussion belongs in a room where the topic on the table is evidence of criminal conspiracy, not a discussion of whether or not a remark was racist (it was, because the person doing the “butbutbut” is not the arbiter of whether or not the remark was racist, even if he – and it’s almost always a he (except when it’s not) thinks he is). Just please stop.