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A possible silver lining to World War 3? Incels hope they can rape women while Chad is off fighting on the front lines

Nuclear War: A possible solution to incels’ never-ending dry spell?

By David Futrelle

Men’s Rights Activists, Red Pillers, and so-called Men Going Their Own Way love fantasizing about what they see as the possibly impending collapse of civilization. In the post-apocalyptic world they imagine, they’ll be the ones with the skills and supplies to survive, and the once-proud women who rejected them in the past will come groveling to them for help, desperate to trade their bodies for a can of beans.

The strange creatures who call themselves incels (involuntary celibates), despite their many agreements with MRAs and MGTOWS, have a rather less cheery view of our possibly postapocalyptic future. In the future dystopian hellscape they imagine, it is the mythical Chad, not them, who will be able to capitalize on the chaos.

Over on Incels.me, the website that many of Reddit’s more extreme incels fled to when Reddit closed down the Incels subreddit, one regular commenter offers his weird take on the subject:

[RageFuel] After WW3, there will be another Baby Boom driven by chads and chads alone.  Thread starterRitalincel  Start dateThursday at 2:16 AM Ritalincel Ritalincel Brainlet - Thursday at 2:16 AM#1 Not only will >90% of incels most likely die off duirng WW3 (due to drafting and nuclear weapons being used on us), chads returning from service will go on to impregnate nearly every surviving foid.  So, any incels who are remaining will be completely mogged by a bunch of Chad Jr's.

In case you’re wondering “completely mogged” means “completely dominated by.” “Foid” is short fro “femoid,” aka woman or girl.

But some of Ritalincel’s colleagues think there might be a bit of a silver lining to the almost complete destruction of the earth.

Sadist Admiral - Thursday at 2:45 AM#2 Thats why you get your sex while you can, when "war crimes" are allowed if you get what I mean

On the off chance you don’t get what he means, he means rape.

Sadist’s suggestion inspired one of his fellow incels to relate an old war story his great-grandfather used to tell:

Dekim ricefevercel - Thursday at 10:19 AM#13 Sadist said: Thats why you get your sex while you can, when "war crimes" are allowed if you get what I mean Reminds me of a war story from my grandfather's father. His squad was clearing houses in a Romanian village, but one of the houses had an explosive attached to the front door, and it killed one of the guys. To avenge him, they killed the men in the house and raped all the children and women, and then killed them too. That's from ww1 btw.

Apparently Dekim’s grandfather was really quite a charming fellow.

 Dekim ricefevercel - Thursday at 12:56 PM#19 Sadist said: brutal, but did they also rape the boy children? cause thats fucked. Idk I was was like 8 when he told me that story. He is dead now. He also told me another story about a guy who was robbing corpses on the battlefield. One time he found a woman with a gold tooth and he tried to take it out, but she turned out to be still alive and started screaming, so he quickly slit her throat. After he returned home he had 3 children and all were born with defects and turned out retarded

Another Incels.me regular offered his own post-apocalyptic fantasies, which to his credit involve actual consensual sex:

blackcel Veteran - Thursday at 10:24 AM#15 Think man, THINK. you fuck the girls while the young Chads are fighting. That is why there was a baby boom, not because of the Chads returning and fucking the shit out of their wives, but wives being lonely and having sex with men who were not their husbands. This is also why russian males look so subhuman while their females are hot. ALl the Chads died on the front lines and the subhuman incels who couldn't fight were able to impregnate entire villages.  WW3 will never happen, though

Blackcel does seem a little confused about a couple of things. There’s not going to be much “fighting” in World War 3, when and if it arrives; most people, including soldiers, will be killed the instant the bombs and missiles explode.

He’s also a bit off when it comes to genetics, seeming to think that girl babies get their looks entirely from their mothers, while boy babies get theirs only from their dads. Which if true would kind of defeat the purpose of sexual reproduction entirely.

I guess expecting incels to know anything at all sex is probably asking way too much of them.

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Patty Thinkerer
3 years ago

I just don’t get what “winning” is to them anymore. Hoping WW3 gets rid of all the Chads, so they’ll be the only men left, then the
womz will have to date them, muhahahaha! Sounds sad.

Moggie
Moggie
3 years ago

Why did I read that? Why?

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

I’m confused about why the incels will be exempted from the draft. Does the military reject you for wrist circumference reasons now?

Weird (thumper of trumpanzees) Eddie
Weird (thumper of trumpanzees) Eddie
3 years ago

World war 3 won’t have no draft… civilization will collapse in the first 2 days

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
3 years ago

Arguably we’ve been having WW3 since 1945. Just if you’re lucky enough to live in the US or Western Europe you don’t have to notice it.

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
3 years ago

They prolly believe they’re too smart to get drafted.

If a draft ever happens in their lifetime, you’ll see incels giving Nugent-style advice to each other, it’ll be fun.

Hippodameia
Hippodameia
3 years ago

WWTH: I think it’s because they think “asshole” is a medical condition.

Shadowplay
3 years ago

I’m confused about why the incels will be exempted from the draft. Does the military reject you for wrist circumference reasons now?

Look up the stats for draft rejection sometimes. You’ll be surprised.

Basically, if we can’t get them to a decent standard of physical fitness in 8 weeks, they’re a no.
If they have physical problems, even if they don’t rise to the level of a disability, they’re a no.
If they have obvious mental problems (other than low intelligence but including very low intelligence), they’re a no.
If they have more serious legal problems, they’re a no. Don’t tend to teach criminals how to kill more efficiently.

You’d be surprised how many get weeded out just on those aspects.

The military is not a dumping ground. Not even in times of all out war.

Moggie
Moggie
3 years ago

Don’t forget bone spurs!

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
3 years ago

Hey, they’re serious. Especially the ones that keep switching between legs.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Shadowplay,

The UK seems to be a bit pickier than the US. The military had to ease a lot of their standards during the peak of Afghanistan/Iraq deployment because there weren’t enough people to meet the standards. That was for a war that needed a pretty small percentage of the population to enlist.

Fortunately, I doubt there’ll be a call for a draft again. But if there is, at least the US military will be probably be taking everyone of a certain age.

I tend to think the future of warfare is more of the cyber attack. Not that I’m an expert on these matters, but that’s how it seems to me. I mean, Russia has been able to meddle in US elections and hack into infrastructure and disrupt it and hardly anyone cares. Very few Americans are frightened or angry. Putin is just getting away with it scotfree. Compare that to the anger Americans experienced at 9-11. It seems like a state is better off chipping away at their enemy’s ability to be properly functioning democracy than it is to do a traditional military attack.

Once again, sci-fi writers have been good at predicting the future. In the Foundation series, the empire was taken down by a small group of people making small attacks on the infrastructure that could look like governmental incompetence and eroding public faith in them.

Moggie
Moggie
3 years ago

I’d be on the group W bench.

MissEB47 (Resident Rainbow Lorikeet and Beak Typist)
MissEB47 (Resident Rainbow Lorikeet and Beak Typist)
3 years ago

I hope Dekim is lying. Not only is his great-grand father an evil piece of shit for what he did, he was evil enough to feel comfortable telling an EIGHT YEAR OLD about his horrific war crimes. Sickening!

Another thing that bothers me, is how male soldiers feel entitled to raping civilian ‘enemy’ women. Why is it mostly women and girls who get treated like this? They may have killed the men (which is bad enough). But they were particularly sadistic to the women/girls. Do female soldiers go about raping the men? No. Male soldiers shouldn’t do that shit, either.

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
3 years ago

WWTH : one of the thing to be wary of is that a lot of people overplay cybers wars for political reasons. (most of them being military officers). The first one who may one day have verifiable, quantified effect is the russia one, but for now it’s unclear it had any effect at all. (propaganda, on the other hand …)

There is a lot of speculation that one can turn a country off by hacking into their energy grid and what not. But it’s entirely speculative that this would have any lasting impact.

I do agree that there won’t be more draft. If only because of a simple reality : the army need actually competent worker. Most of the work in an army now isn’t fighting, but logistic and support. In France, military officers are mostly against any attempt to start mandatory military service again due to them having 0 use for them, and that’s despite the french army having trouble recruiting enough people.

Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
3 years ago

Spoils of war. To people who see women as more akin to property than people, they’re spoils of war along side gold bars, captured buildings and vehicles, and looted paintings and other art, rather than civilians. 🙁

Shadowplay
3 years ago

@wwth

The military had to ease a lot of their standards during the peak of Afghanistan/Iraq deployment because there weren’t enough people to meet the standards.

Sort of. It’s more the population has changed than anything else for that though. For the US forces specifically (and this is just what I’ve been able to access quickly, as you say our system is a bit different):

They had to ease the physical standards, specifically weight and vision, because a horrible number of candidates were failing out on that and only that.
The weight thing is a societal problem. Vision is odd, but its very noticable that there are fewer and fewer people with very good vision (I’d incidentally fail out on vision if I were applying now – standards have changed since the 70’s and colour vision is considered much more important)

Two of the so called “morals” standards got the chop completely – and rightly. (DADT were a temporary and completely wrong headed bandage – and the DA part is kind of difficult to apply if the person who is supposed to DT is really obvious about things. As they have every right to be!) It’s included under the heading of loosening standards by the armchair generals though.

Minor medical issues, including ones corrected, are no longer given much weight – although they can and will affect your career path and possibly your branch of service. Each branch has it’s own list of dealbreakers – which are now mission tied, not blanket. No one cares if a comms tech needs glasses. A sniper, on the other hand, they fuss about it a lot. 😛

Me – I HATE conscription. There is no good way of integrating draftees with volunteers, and as Kitchener’s Army showed back in 1915 having draftee only units is basically cooking cannon fodder.

Not that the draft will happen for WW3. Einstein’s take on WW4 – possibly.

Shadowplay
3 years ago

Sorry to DP, but going to add one thing more, since a mate just got back to me on this. (She’s a recruiter, USMC, and recruiters LOVE complaining 😛 ):

The biggest standard they had to ease? Literacy.

Don’t know what the hell is going on with the school system there, but she’s getting candidates who literally can’t write their own damned names.

kupo
kupo
3 years ago

In case you’re wondering “completely mogged” means “completely dominated by.”

I assume this is because they recognize the great power of our leader, Mog.

If anyone needed more proof they don’t see women as human, they find the rape of boys disgusting but not that of women or girls.

Shadowplay
3 years ago

@kupo

Don’t tell Moggie of this power! 😛

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

There is a lot of speculation that one can turn a country off by hacking into their energy grid and what not. But it’s entirely speculative that this would have any lasting impact.

Oh yeah, it’s hard to imagine that one country could just shut of another’s infrastructure all at one. But do little localized things here and there and people get more and more dissatisfied.

I actually think the Republican’s obstruct everything thing during the Obama administration had nothing to do with policy or even hating Democrats and everything to do with making the public view the government as broken. This has two benefits for their wealthy donors. One, it makes privatization look better if government is seen as inherently incompetent. Two, it makes the public throw their hands up in frustration, say “a pox on both their houses” and stop caring about policy, giving the .001% the free and clear to do whatever the fuck they want.

It’s no surprise to me that Putin saw what was already happening and decided to accelerate it. Why hit us himself when he can get us to destroy ourselves with minimal effort and no blood?

Fortunately, Trump’s awfulness combined with the NRA’s awfulness has inspired young people here to not be apathetic. So there’s hope. I’m not trying to be too overly negative. I just think Putin’s agenda is to try to get the US to collapse from within. I don’t know that it’ll work. It probably won’t. But he’s been at least a little effective.

Sorry my comment is so US centric. But if there is a WWIII in some form, it’ll be sparked by the US vs Russia, probably.

DawnPurityseeker
DawnPurityseeker
3 years ago

Ummmm, Dekim I don’t know that I would go around and at best imply that my own grandfather was “ret*rded”, but I guess to each his own.

Dalillama
Dalillama
3 years ago

@WWTH

That’s been their playbook since Reagan.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Yep. And then the people economically harmed by 40 years of it still think it’s the fault of Mexicans stealing their jobs or welfare queens or whatever. So I guess it’s a damn effective playbook.

*weeps into my pinot grigio*

TreePerson
TreePerson
3 years ago

Ever notice how right wing fantasies always involve brutal wars and the collapse of society or what would be dystopian dictatorships in young adult novels?

And then on the left we have the United Federation of Planets?
Because I’m starting to think of a certain Python sketch…

Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
3 years ago

re: Alice’s Restaurant…

I went to see Arlo at Johnson County Community College during the 50th Anniversary Alice’s Restaurant tour (and got the t-shirt!!)
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The most incredible thing about the idea of him getting out of the draft for a littering conviction is… it’s true.

Arguably we’ve been having WW3 since 1945.

THAT ain’t no lie…

Bina
3 years ago

“mogged”
“foids”
etc.

If they don’t stand a chance with women, it’s partly because (a) they don’t even speak the same language. Problem compounded by (b) they literally think we’re a different species altogether (as, apparently, are “chads”). Oh, and (c) they’re so repulsive and repugnant from the inside out that any woman they do try to get with, even if they should lower themselves to speak the language of another fucking species, is going to fight back against them to the death, and win.

On the plus side, if what they say about their physical attributes is to be believed, that shouldn’t be hard. (It would also be facilitated by (d) the Bomb killing off all but the very healthiest and most adaptive human specimens, anyway.)

Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
3 years ago

Yep. And then the people economically harmed by 40 years of it still think it’s the fault of Mexicans stealing their jobs or welfare queens or whatever

yeah, darned Mexicans moving all our manufacturing base to Asia… And the WELFARE QUEENS destroying the small farm economy…

The right-wing, especially the white working class HAS TO BELIEVE it was all illegal immigrants and AFDC recipients that took several trillion dollars out of our economy… otherwise, they’d be forced to confront reality — that their best move is to make common cause with people of color, the poor, and the rest of the oppressed… and THAT ain’t happening.

Interestingly, regarding the movement of the manufacturing base to Asia in the ’80s, there are 4 things I can say with great confidence about the people who WERE responsible for it:
1) they were all white
2) they were all men
3) they were all repugnicans
4) they were all on a first-name basis with donald trump….

Blessed are the Religious Right, for Theirs is the Presidency of trump

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/opinion-miller-trump-jesus_us_5a5e3c51e4b0fcbc3a13f575

F is for Fro
F is for Fro
3 years ago

They’re forgetting that if their respective countries become occupied by foreign powers as a result of the fighting that they will have a new supply of exotic and imported Chads.

Podkayne Lives
Podkayne Lives
3 years ago

They’re forgetting that if their respective countries become occupied by foreign powers as a result of the fighting that they will have a new supply of exotic and imported Chads.

And we all know how they believe women feel about exotic men. Oh dear. Poor incels. They’re probably gonna be shot by some exotic Chad. Possibly for attempted rape.

Dalillama
Dalillama
3 years ago

@Weird Eddie

Trouble is, a lotta them weren’t Republicans. Dems have been thoroughly involved too.

Paradoxical Intention: Resident Cheeseburger Slut

“Well officer, he tried to break into my apartment and then he ran into my knife. 49 times.”

I’m trying to figure out why the fuck these bilovating anal warts think they’d be successful at raping anybody, what with them constantly whining about how inferior they are.

TreePerson
TreePerson
3 years ago

@Dalillama
I often say we have a conservative party(D) and a fascist party(R).

Jamborina Squib
Jamborina Squib
3 years ago

Seen this kind of thing enough times that it just makes me sigh, but what DID surprise me is the idea that Russian men look subhuman. Really? As a former teenage Pavel Bure-obsessed hockey fan who grew to study the former Soviet union, and got to meet several Russian men at school… well, plenty of drool-worthy guys, I tell you. Just more assfacts to add to the list.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Jamborina Squib,

Alexei Nemov
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Case, rested.

And the search for Nemov gifs led me to this amazing post. I’m not sure if it’s funny to everyone or just gymnerds, but what the hey, posting it anyway

https://balancebeamsituation.com/2016/09/25/how-to-gymnastics-exhibition-starring-russia/

Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent + Bard of the New Movement
Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent + Bard of the New Movement
3 years ago

Well god-be-damned and don’t-mind-me
I’ll just be headed for the lavatory
Got a little something from the agency
In fifteen minutes, it’s WWIII

Won’t even bother with hunk’rin’ down
When the bomb hits, there goes the neighborhood and the town
No real use in leavin’ a frown
Let it all melt while humanity stands around

Just want to make it easier when clearing out
Because, you see, I have no doubt
If there’s anyone left, they’ll be more inclined to shout
If there’s a mess versus the work on the grout.

Of course you didn’t hear about the draft
Thought there’d be one? That’s a laugh
They’re already barreling right down the path
Queuing us up to be nuclear chaff

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
3 years ago

Ah, incels and their virtue signalling (i.e., conspicuously displaying their moral values).

Without virtue signalling, there would be no incel posts.

That said, their moral values differ sharply from those of most people.

Hexum7
Hexum7
3 years ago

Do these incels not realize that if there’s ever another draft, most likely women will be included?

Oh, screw me for even getting caught up in thinking about their reasoning

Jamborina Squib
Jamborina Squib
3 years ago

@wwth How could I have forgotten Sexy Alexei? Thank you for the reminder 🙂

My friends and I watched the Atlanta gymnastics religiously thanks to him and a few others (I was 18ish if I remember right). I remember seeing how much more affectionate the men were with each other in some of those other countries, kissing cheeks and hugging, and thinking it would be nice if men over here could be like that. Probably my first real mindful thought on toxic masculinity – not the last by a long shot.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
3 years ago

As soon as I saw the bit about subhuman Russian men, I immediately thought of Alexei Nemov, and then I thought “I bet WWTH had the exact same thought”, and I was not disappointed.

Don’t forget the other Alexeis (Alexii?), Yagudin and Urmanov. And Ilya Kulik. And Alexandr Abt. All Russian Chads with extremely normal wrist circumferences.

That corpse story has a strong whiff of urban legend to it. What would an old woman with a gold tooth be doing on a WWI battlefield? And what was the guy himself doing out there? Given the nature of trench warfare, it would have been far too hazardous to wander around among the corpses in no man’s land. Often the bodies lay out in the open for months before they could be safely retrieved. There were temporary truces to recover the wounded, but it’s doubtful soldiers had opportunity (and permission) to rummage around the battlefield dead unless in very close proximity to the trenches.

As for the three kids, their names were Lemonjello, Orangjello, and LaDashA.

Moggie
Moggie
3 years ago

I’m puzzled by the subhuman Russian men too. Living in London, I get to see, and in some cases meet, a lot of Russians, and the guys cover the expected range. None of them subhuman. It can’t even be that he’s getting his idea of Russians from TV and movies, because the Russian characters in those tend towards the Chad end of the spectrum.

Chad
Chad
3 years ago

What is a ‘Chad’ ??

“He’s also a bit off when it comes to genetics, seeming to think that girl babies get their looks entirely from their mothers, while boy babies get theirs only from their dads.”

In my experience I’ve noticed boys look more like their mothers and girls more like their fathers. Not always, but most of the time.

galanx
galanx
3 years ago

Being a fan of zombies, I was on a The Walking Dead forum when it first came out and looked like it might raise some interesting questions. The guys on it who obsessed about what kind of guns they used were also prone to talking about how all the women who were so haughty now would come begging for their protection when the cities collapsed and the nig- um, they meant ‘walkers’- came swarming out.

galanx
galanx
3 years ago

Ohlman said:
” I do agree that there won’t be more draft. If only because of a simple reality : the army need actually competent worker. Most of the work in an army now isn’t fighting, but logistic and support. In France, military officers are mostly against any attempt to start mandatory military service again due to them having 0 use for them, and that’s despite the french army having trouble recruiting enough people.”

Yeah, here in Taiwan they’re switching from a conscript army to a volunteer system at the request of the armed forces, who realize a trained workforce is more valuable than cannon-fodder. My oldest son had to serve a year; my two youngest did four months each- during which they were not allowed to play with guns in case they hurt themselves.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
3 years ago

If the baby boom was the result of incels impregnating all the homefront gals, and not postwar economic prosperity, wouldn’t it have started in 1940, not 1946?

I’m also curious to know what happened in all those Russian villages when the children of these incel mating sprees grew up and discovered much of their local dating pool were half-siblings and 100% of the boys were incels, what with boys being exact genetic copies of their fathers and all. Wouldn’t that have largely decimated the population?

EJ (The Other One)
3 years ago

There is a lot of speculation that one can turn a country off by hacking into their energy grid and what not. But it’s entirely speculative that this would have any lasting impact.

I have a friend whose research is on this specific point. I went to a talk he gave last weekend. Short answer: It is not only a thing that can be done, but is a thing that has already been done extensively during the Russian-Ukrainian conflict.

Apparently the problem is not that it will cause permanent damage to infrastructure; the problem is that until you manage to identify and patch the vulnerabilities, your electricity grid can be taken down again and again. This can severely disrupt society, as well as causing life-threatening issues where things like hospitals and sewerage plants can’t operate.

To my mind, the more interesting question is, why bother? Attacks on national infrastructure, or even the deliberate killing or starving of large numbers of people, usually fail to cause nations to surrender. Generals seem to salivate over the bombing of cities in the hope that it will “break the spirit of resistance”, but it hasn’t often happened, and often has the opposite effect. Russian attacks on Ukrainian electric infrastructure may have looked scary, but they didn’t manage to bring the Ukrainians to their knees.

Moggie
Moggie
3 years ago

Buttercup:

If the baby boom was the result of incels impregnating all the homefront gals, and not postwar economic prosperity, wouldn’t it have started in 1940, not 1946?

You’d think. Unless… maybe incel sperm swim really really slowly?

I’m also curious to know what happened in all those Russian villages when the children of these incel mating sprees grew up and discovered much of their local dating pool were half-siblings and 100% of the boys were incels, what with boys being exact genetic copies of their fathers and all. Wouldn’t that have largely decimated the population?

With Russian agriculture and industry of the time still being dependent on physical labour, wrist circumference would have been pretty important, I think.

I’m puzzled by the idea that only incels would be left behind by a draft. Even if the male world were divided into only incels and physically perfect men (so, no hunks with draft-disqualifying eyesight, for example), there are still protected professions, “fortunate sons” of the rich, and older men (we’re always hearing about how men age like fine wine). The left-behind incels would still be competing with George Clooney.

Orion
Orion
3 years ago
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
3 years ago

@Moggie

You’d think. Unless… maybe incel sperm swim really really slowly?

Oh, right! I keep forgetting we’re dealing with bad anatomy. Obviously the sperm hung around for a few years, supplicating, and then V-J Day caused women all over the world to spontaneously ovulate at once.

I’m puzzled by the idea that only incels would be left behind by a draft.

I think incels have this sort of idea that Chad leads an unattainable life, doing things they dream about doing but are prevented from experiencing due to unfortunate Gonial angles and short philtrums. Wartime military duty is just another macho fantasy they’re excluded from. It stands to reason, then, that the draft board would select out all the sex-having Chads to go off for manly adventures, leaving the incels behind to fill sandbags and knit washcloths. It’s such black and white thinking.

(A)utonomist Escapist
(A)utonomist Escapist
3 years ago

All this talk of hunky Russians, and none of you have posted this treasure?

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(No, I am not a Stalinist!)