By David Futrelle
In the Men’s Rights subreddit, the regulars only discuss the most important issues affecting men. Prostate cancer. Circumcision. When scientists will get around to developing some new technology that will render women obsolete — or that will at the very least make women feel really bad about themselves.
In one (sort of) recent discussion of the Obsolete Women Question on r/mensrights, one gay MRA called Eryemil, a real out-of-the-box thinker, suggests that it won’t take anything as fancy as a sexbots or artificial wombs to make women unnecessary. All that straight MRAs really need to do is to start having sex, not with women, but with each other.
There’s just one little roadblock: straight men generally don’t want to have sex with each other. But maybe science will find an answer!
All we have to do to completely take away women’s social power over men is to discover a means to allow men the choice to become bisexual.
Like, I guess, a Gay Pill, or some sort of Gayifying Machine?
At the moment women couldn’t hope to compete with men in terms of sexual desire and common interests; the only thing that gives them so much power is that straight men have no other choice.
Actually, there are lots of men who think of themselves as straight who have sex with men. But never mind.
The most beautiful thing about this is that I don’t think this would work in reverse (making women bisexual, if they aren’t already) because of women’s evolutionary derived meta values i.e. hypergamy.
So a Gayifying Machine won’t work on women because they love sweet, sweet man cash too much — and their fellow women don’t have enough bucks to make them worthwhile hosts to latch onto? Well, at least this is an acknowledgement that men tend to make a lot more money than women.
Even if only a minority decides to go through with it, it will leave heterosexual males with an elevated sexual market value by virtue of their relative scarcity. You’d have a society of hetero men with harems of women eager to please him (and probably making all the babies) and a bunch of bros hanging out with their buddies playing video games and sucking each other off.
Damn. If scientists can pull this off — er, maybe that’s not the ideal phrase to use in this context — it sounds like women are DOOOMED.
@ Blerkathon;
UrbanDictionary is a fratboy interpretation of culture
I wish I could share my real name’s novelist description. It is exceptional.
My nym’s description, however, is that I have a bust like a soft waterfall, and he ached to mansplain to me. Which sounds… exceptionally saggy, I’m not going to lie.
@Weird Eddie
So it seems… a shame. The concept was good from the start.
@Jules
Unless they’re sufficiently hot women doing it with each other so a guy can either jerk his gherkin to it or have a threesome. That certainly seems to exist.
*is feeling snarky*
If I were such a male novelist, I would write, “She had a bust like a juicy bedsheet and I expected to ravish her.” Not a particularly nice sentence, but who can pass up a juicy bedsheet?
It boggles the mind with mras/mgtow or whatever. I swear they get all their info on sexual orientations from cheap pornos and 20s to 50s era refeer madness type moral panic propaganda shockers. I’d suggest to them they do research but I know they’d go for avfm or reddit for info as they’re getting rejected by disgusted men and not just disgusted women
I described the level of tried I was often on the sub as “Think of the most attractive (person) you can think of, laid out naked on a bed…. The bed is the most appealing thing in that image.”
I god: “she had a butt like a wrinkled princess and he thisted to ignore her”
@tuputamulder, we laugh at funny nonsense here, and the MRA community is a never-ending comedy-horror show.
If you’re looking for well-cited arguments and positions to reinforce why this mockery is warranted, we would be happy to provide!
Seconding Dvärghundspossen’s post.
If by something you are born with, you mean your genetics, the question is deeply flawed.
behavioral genetics says genes interact with our environment to produce behavior (which interacts with our environment which interacts with our genes).
If this is something you are genuinely curious about, I would throw that false dichotomy straight out the window and start over.
@WWTH: “She had boobs like a expensive tulip, and I hankered
My name is actually too short for this, BOOOOOOOO.
On topic: It never fails to amuse me how queer people never fucking exist outside porn, even for the gay MRAs. Like, seriously?
“We’ll just fuck each other! That’ll show those feeeemales!”
Women who aren’t attracted to men, or who are but are also attracted to other genders:
MRA’s are the biggest disgrace to men ever
They dont represent mens rights, they represent an evil agenda
@feministguy,
Your latest comment seems a little… random.
Would you care to respond to the concerns and comments your previous comment elicited?
which comment in particular?
@feministguy:
This one:
Or this one:
Or this one:
I was just curious and wanted to know what determines a persons sexuality
Nobody actually 100 percent knows, feministguy. Environment is an argument but in some cases that makes no sense (like mine if any thing I would be straight-sorry for tmis). Genes could be but so far there is no conclusive evidence.
These are to the best of my limited knowledge.
The only thing I gather is all aready natural. Animals exhibit bisexuality, heterosexuality and homosexuality (asexuality too) no issue so why are we as a species still so weird about it?
To the rest sorry I tried but I’m not really eloquent online
@ Fluffy Spider
Hits all the bases. People are complex, no one really knows.
Though I do think genetics is more influential. Sister and I are about as different physically (and mentally) as is possible for two kids from the same parents.
I’m hetero, always have been. My sister is not, and she always has been quite happily lesbian. Same environment produced us both.
@Shadowplay
Thanks 🙂
I got a bit frustrated with feministguy but managed to keep my cool giving him my response. You seem to be better though at replying to him or her or them (it’s the internet you never know)
That’s interesting like with me and my sister. I’m very much bisexual she’s very much heterosexual. Not the only way we’re different (she’s super tall I’m decidedly short) but an interesting way.
You are a kind person. Shows in your replies. 🙂
Yeah – family stuff is odd. My sis is a bit taller than me (she’s 6 2, I’m just over 6 foot). She’s a pretty, ultra fair skinned blonde, I’m the skinny dark one you wouldn’t glance twice at in a souk. There isn’t a single art she can’t do to a high standard while I can barely paint walls, but she’ll take four hours and two trips to hospital to change a fuse – meanwhile I’ve put a new gearbox in the car. She’s outgoing and cheery, I’m decidedly cautious around people. She’s terrified of heights, I fly hangliders for fun, yet the first time she did a parachute jump she went up three more times and landed perfectly each time – I usually hit hard enough to bounce despite it being part of my job!
We had so little in common as kids that we always got on brilliantly together. About the only thing we share is that the other has very good taste in siblings. 😛
Lol my and mine having some similar opposites.
She’s tall, naturally dark haired (dyed blue now it’s so pretty) thin and tan
I’m short, blonde, fat and pale (the sun is my enemy)
She is more outgoing I’m shy
She is better with dogs while cats gravitate towards me (I love dogs too)
She loves heights I decided do not and belong firmly on the ground
I love spiders she hates them
We get along good recently
http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/21700000/True-Blood-gif-true-blood-21716726-500-222.gif
@feministguy
http://media1.giphy.com/media/NshsZXMuzcahG/giphy.gif
Edit: can anyone see the gif? It’s some dude from Community saying “Everyone wants you to shut up”
I can see the gif.
There must have been cases – can anyone think of a study of identical twins whose orientation differed?