By David Futrelle
In the Men’s Rights subreddit, the regulars only discuss the most important issues affecting men. Prostate cancer. Circumcision. When scientists will get around to developing some new technology that will render women obsolete — or that will at the very least make women feel really bad about themselves.
In one (sort of) recent discussion of the Obsolete Women Question on r/mensrights, one gay MRA called Eryemil, a real out-of-the-box thinker, suggests that it won’t take anything as fancy as a sexbots or artificial wombs to make women unnecessary. All that straight MRAs really need to do is to start having sex, not with women, but with each other.
There’s just one little roadblock: straight men generally don’t want to have sex with each other. But maybe science will find an answer!
All we have to do to completely take away women’s social power over men is to discover a means to allow men the choice to become bisexual.
Like, I guess, a Gay Pill, or some sort of Gayifying Machine?
At the moment women couldn’t hope to compete with men in terms of sexual desire and common interests; the only thing that gives them so much power is that straight men have no other choice.
Actually, there are lots of men who think of themselves as straight who have sex with men. But never mind.
The most beautiful thing about this is that I don’t think this would work in reverse (making women bisexual, if they aren’t already) because of women’s evolutionary derived meta values i.e. hypergamy.
So a Gayifying Machine won’t work on women because they love sweet, sweet man cash too much — and their fellow women don’t have enough bucks to make them worthwhile hosts to latch onto? Well, at least this is an acknowledgement that men tend to make a lot more money than women.
Even if only a minority decides to go through with it, it will leave heterosexual males with an elevated sexual market value by virtue of their relative scarcity. You’d have a society of hetero men with harems of women eager to please him (and probably making all the babies) and a bunch of bros hanging out with their buddies playing video games and sucking each other off.
Damn. If scientists can pull this off — er, maybe that’s not the ideal phrase to use in this context — it sounds like women are DOOOMED.
@MrsObedMarsh
Do I want to know what that hashtag means?
@Weatherwax:
Remember: these MRA types learned everything they know about the birds and the bees from watching mainstream porn. And in mainstream porn, every man is either straight or gay (and nearly all of them are straight), whereas every woman is bisexual. 😛
@Treeperson
The original intent behind the hashtag is that transpeople are just aping femininity without understanding it and live to attack innocent ciswomen and girls. Standard TERF stuff.
@MrsObedMarsh
So it has nothing to do with peak oil or related terms?
I was expecting pseudo-intellectualism that I could laugh at,
but apparently TERFs just slap new buzzwordy names on old ideas.
@MrsObedMarsh
Yes that’s great news.
People already said it, but I too fear for all my gay friends who’d have to deal with all these terrible people. So happy that it’s not a likely scenario, sad that it’s because they have no real interest in actually going their own way, but just want to rant endlessly on the evils of womankind.
I mean, I remember being resentful at unreciprocated love and I know that I still have to be mindful and reel myself in if my attachments and infatuation proves to be one-sided, but that’s something any empathetic human being should eventually learn and start putting into pratice.
Sometimes I fantasize about posing as a PUA-guru who lures MRAs, PUAs, MGTOWs and all the other daft acronyms in with the promise of greater succes with the people they are attracted to, but then tricking them into becoming decent fucking human beings. I mean, it might work, right? /hopelessoptimism…
I want to interrupt this thread to thank Mish for linking the male novelist description generator on her twitter
https://electricliterature.com/if-youre-not-sure-how-a-male-author-would-describe-you-use-our-handy-chart-6a44afe0e586
It’s fracking amazing.
Mine is “she had knockers like a silken princess and I proposed to ravish her.”
Great! They’ll be so busy doing each other that we can finally advance The Great Gynocracy!! 😀
@Fguy
That’s a bad question, and especially a bad question for you to be asking
He must be in moderation because I didn’t see the post the first time I read the thread.
Yeah, considering he hasn’t listened to us or learned anything in the other threads…
I’ll just let the cat say it.
“Straight men should have sex with other straight men so they don’t have to have sex with women!”
What’s to bet he adds No Homo! to every other sentence when talking IRL? I’m not hugely in favour of diagnosing others’ sexuality on line, but if ever there was a closeted case…
You know it would be only a matter if time before they’d start complaining about each other hitting the wall and calling each other roasties and Throat busters.
But hey, it’s nice to have some friends
@Feministguy, I’m begging you, change your ‘nym post-haste.
Either that or engage with the multitude of posts in thread multitude of threads in which people have shown that your mindset and arguments are not, in any way or by any stretch of the imagination, feminist.
OT, all I have for this proposal is a giant eye-roll and a sigh of sympathy for any gay or bisexual men on the receiving end of a (hypothetical) MRA influx.
A gay MRA?
Such a pitiful sight. They’re not even making money off it like Milo.
Last time I checked, the (cis male) gay community already has their own term for this stuff, considering there’s a lot of ageism and obsession with fitness. I think it started with the whole AIDs epidemic and shit but I’m not boned up on my queer history.
@WWTH – Huh, I have knockers like a silken princess too. Is that copyright infringement?
There’s the key right there. Whether you turn the resentment outward at a target or inward at yourself, like FeministGuy is doing, it’s a whole lotta unnecessary toxicity. It took me years to be able to react to rejection by saying “oh well” and moving on, instead of catastrophizing. If a particular person doesn’t want you, it isn’t a permanent referendum on your attractiveness. As the saying goes, you can be the most delicious, juicy peach in the world, and there will always be people who hate peaches.
I’m not sure how they’d insult each other sexually, given that they think aging and sex-depreciation are only for women. I guess they’ll threaten to replace each other with cuckbots and then they’ll be MGTOWfromMGTOWs.
These idiots must be reading really, really bad porn written by MGTOWS on Reddit.
Of course, they could be the MGTOWS on Reddit writing the really, really bad porn. Who knows?
Nah, he’s out, he talks about being gay a lot on Reddit
@WWTH: My rump is like a silken waterfall! XD
@FeministGuy: “you people”? Not worth answering, take your disingenuous line of questioning elsewhere.
@WWTH
I have a rear end like a luscious bedsheet and he lusted to correct myself.
It’s too bad these same heterosexual males won’t elevate their sexual market value by improving their personalities.
@Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
If only they took a que from diamond owners and locked themselves away from the world. Then their individual prices would skyrocket!
I always thought why wont they advocate for asexual pills like the opposite of Viagra. If we are so inferior and repulsive, why would they make sex bots the looks and acts like us….. obviously i know the answer but i still want to hear their reasoning.
It’s like some sort of cargo-cult pseudoscience, only less rigorous.
Is there a phrase like “purple prose”, but for academic technical writing?
Pansexuality is just pot calling the kettle hot.
(sorry)