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Women are lambs who become mutton after a single penis eats their virginity peanut, MGTOW explains

Trust me, you don’t want to see the other pictures I found by searching for “sheep nuts”

By David Futrelle

Here’s a little lesson in vaginanonmics from a Man Going His Own Way who might, I suspect, be a little bit hungry.

Men are appreciating assets. Women are depreciating assets. Women must acknowledge this fact. (self.MGTOW) submitted 1 year ago by FuckTOW So there's this old story about a girl posting on a forum to find a rich guy and she gets a reply from a banker explaining anyone with 500k annual income would not marry her because she is a depreciating asset. This line is key. The sooner women realise that they are less valuable than men the better. Men are the builders of society. We will continue to make money for a long time to come. We don't just pop out kids and then expect to be catered for till we die. Women lose their looks quickly (their ONLY bargaining chip) and the ability to reproduce. Women are like monkey nuts. Once you extract the peanut from the shell, who the hell wants the shell? You discard it and it disintegrates into nothingness. Biodegradable. Just like women. Once one man eats the nut inside. there's nothing left for anyone else. Men withstand the test of time. Our looks may (eventually) fade but we're still able to procreate till a ripe old age, and the money keeps on flowing in. So many women are just husks - mutton dressed as lamb. As far as I'm concerned, after that first cock - a women is nothing but a husk. And what do you do with the husk? Chuck it

Other MGTOWs agree: Once some guy eats a woman’s virginity peanut with his penis, she is no longer a tasty snack for any other man.

[deleted] 16 points 1 year ago* Very true. As far as I'm concerned, any woman who's already experienced one cock is just as used as a full-blown slut. A lot of guys will hamster "Well, she's only had sex with 2 or 3 guys, which is a lot less than most girls these days!" When girls bring nothing to the table but their sexuality and their sexuality has already been enjoyed by another man, what do they have left to offer? permalinkembedsave [–]FuckTOW[S] 0 points 1 year ago Yeah those guys that hamster are nothing but CUCKS. CUCKS who are happy being cuckolded. Happy in their position as lesser men. One cocks all it takes. We live in the age of science, and even science agrees the strongest bond is with the first cock. If that cock was a one night stand / initiation into adulthood due to peer pressure / any excuse to take a cock before the right time means you've fucked yourself for life. Then the next cock is just another cock, is another cock, is another cock. It has no value therefore, for me, that pussy isn't worth jack shit

In addition to being peanuts who are also somehow sheep, women are of course parasites. Parasitic peanut sheep.

FuckTOW[S] 13 points 1 year ago Women are worth a negative value as they literally are parasites. Emotionally mentally physically and financially they will take everything they can from a man.

Stay safe out there, fellas! It’s a dangerous world, metaphorically speaking.

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Dvärghundspossen
Dvärghundspossen
2 years ago

I was watching Blade Runner (the original) just earlier this evening with a friend who hadn’t seen it before. She paused the film after the scene where Deckard blocks Rachel from leaving, grabs her, shoves her against a window, forcefully kisses her and makes her say what he wants her to – until she asks for him to put his hands on her. We talked about how uncomfortable the scene is, since it’s the old problematic trope of “force a woman to be intimate with you and she’ll like it eventually.” Hell the next time he even sees her after that she says “I love you.”

Ugh. Heebie jeebies after that scene. I hope we’ve come a lot further than 1982 but I wonder how many recent films contain that trope to an extent.

I haven’t exactly researched this, but my impression is that this crap has become far less common over time. You still have this nice guy trope where a guy who hangs around for long enough deserves the woman as a price, but these straight up rapey scenes are hard to find in more recent movies.

kupo
kupo
2 years ago

@Dvärghundspossen

Isn’t it also degrading towards men, that crap they write?

There’s no misandrist like a misogynist.

F is for Fro
F is for Fro
2 years ago

Firstly, I googled Sheep Nuts to see where those were sold since I am a Chocoholic. I can agree with David that you don’t want to google those keywords.

OT:

I was talking to a friend about an anime… and he trailed weirdly into a pretty **detailed** screed/rant about his anticipation of upcoming sexbot technology.

… it was akin to seeing a buddy succumb to the effects of a zombie bite 🙁 .

Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent + Bard of the New Movement
Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent + Bard of the New Movement
2 years ago

Pardon my lateness, but wasn’t “rationalization hamsters” a thing with MRAs a while back? (metaphorical creatures running about in ladybrainz justifying all they do)

Pie
Pie
2 years ago

Turns out there’s a whole set of whtm posts tagged “hamstering”. It’s a pretty eclectic collection.

https://wehuntedthemammoth.com/category/hamstering/

Jo
Jo
2 years ago

Sorry if this article has already come up in the comments, I’ve been too busy to read them recently.

https://newrepublic.com/article/147744/rise-male-supremacist-groups

Nothing very new there, but there is increasing mainstream awareness of the central role of misogyny in the current rise of the far right.

EJ (The Other One)
2 years ago

@Jo:
That’s a very interesting link, thanks. As you say, what’s new isn’t the story, but the paper publishing it.

One of the things I’ve been saying for a while is that our beloved host David has inadvertently made himself a world expert on what has accidentally become one of the most important malevolent forces in the modern world. People should be interviewing him.

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
2 years ago

So many women are just husks – mutton dressed as lamb. As far as I’m concerned, after that first cock – a women is nothing but a husk. And what do you do with the husk? Chuck it.

Help me out, little MGTOW: Am I mutton? Or a husk?

Also, who are you to judge women — you wantonly mix your metaphors! Tsk.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
2 years ago

@Kat – I pairbonded with that first metaphor. It stretched my mind out of shape and ruined me for all of the subsequent metaphors.

the money keeps on flowing in

Until you get laid off, or become disabled, or have to take a pay cut, or retire, none of which *ever* happen to men!

I mean, it’s nice to be optimistic and assume that things will just keep getting better and better for you and worse and worse for your enemies, but the just-world fallacy rarely pans out. Life doesn’t follow a coherent narrative arc.

Dvärghundspossen
Dvärghundspossen
2 years ago

Yeah right, all men have jobs and all women just leach off of men.

My current job is fixed term that run out by June, but I have applied for a couple of tenured jobs that I might actually have a shot at. (I’ve interviewed for one of them and they only interviewed four people, but I won’t know if I get it until 24-25 of April or thereabouts.) If I get one of these jobs, my husband will quit his current very hard and stressful job and go back to being a student just for the fun of it. 🙂 Imagine that!

Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
2 years ago

@Dvärghundspossen

That’s exciting news on the job front! Do please keep us posted.
I’m a contract academic myself (or as a friend describes us, drive-thru academics), currently with five separate contracts, which is fairly normal for the first half of the year. I don’t always love life in the precariat, but there’s no way I’d have someone else supporting me. Not sure where these guys get their knowledge of the world – oh wait, we already covered that 🙂

OT, but has anyone been following the unfolding HBomberguy story on Twitter today? It’s ugly as hell. And the person at the centre of it has been subjected to unrelenting abuse by fanboys.
Hasty disclaimer: I don’t know the full story or the extent of HBomb’s culpability; and I haven’t seen anything from him at this stage. But it’s getting real nasty.

Dvärghundspossen
Dvärghundspossen
2 years ago

@Mish: I’ll hold my thumbs (as we say here) that we both leave the precariat soon!

Scildfreja Unnyðnes
Scildfreja Unnyðnes
2 years ago

@Zaunfink,

Secondly: where did he get the whole “even science agrees the bond with the first cock is the strongest”-thing from? Where’s the evidence?

Lord Rammington Codstroke there is referencing two things.

First is the whole “zombifying vagina goo” thing, where science shows the womz lady estrogens crawl up the mans donger and into his brain and make him her love slave! (It actually just shows that some chemicals in vaginal secretions trigger dopamine and endorphin production, which encourage pair bondings)

Second is the fact that orgasm also triggers dopamine and endorphin production, and orgasms while you’re young tend to more strongly have this effect. So “her first is her strongest! She’ll always be pair bonded to him the strongest!” (Not that dopamine or endorphins work that way in the slightest, but you know.)

Oh yeah, so, you remember that article way back ago where the mans were claiming that womz don’t have orgasms at all and that man-dudes shouldn’t worry about giving her the cumcums? (ugh, are these guys f’n six year olds?) Yeah, turns out that’s only true half the time. Other half the time, women have orgasms by having a penis waved in front of them, and they pair bond to its owner immediately.

In reality, orgasms give you a little burst of brain chemicals that make you feel nice, and that help you learn. End result is that it’s easier to emotionally bond after an orgasm. Happens to both men and women.

For men this has become the root of a bunch of “no masturbating, no pornography, don’t waste your manhood” movements in the nazis and the MRA and the moral-panic crowd; for women this has become … well, see the article above. Funny how everything turns into a reason to control and subjugate women, that.

As usual, they take a slice of actual science, exaggerate inappropriately, and then use it as a load-bearing beam in constructing their bilious tower of hate.

solecism
solecism
2 years ago

@Scildfreja Unnyðnes

As usual, they take a slice of actual science, exaggerate inappropriately, and then use it as a load-bearing beam in constructing their bilious tower of hate.

*claps hands* That is brilliant!

It’s kinda funny how they talk about the only purpose of women is for teh secks and perpetuation of the species, and yet when science demonstrates just how the biological mechanisms might work (to support the procreation part of the argument), it’s all about conspiracy to control teh menz!

I dunno. It’s like they learned about the basic process of development of the embryo into fetus in high school biology, where sexual differentiation starts with the female development path then reroutes into the male development path, and then went “Nuh-uh! We were here first! Men rulz! It’s a conspiracy!” Like massive projection and overcompensation due to a ridiculous inferiority complex. Over basic biology that is socially and morally neutral but somehow the largest existential threat ever.

Kidvelociraptor
2 years ago

I know the first guy is talking about sex & virginity, but he also says women are only good for popping out babies, which makes the “monkey nuts” metaphor sound like he wants to eat a baby 😅

Scildfreja Unnyðnes
Scildfreja Unnyðnes
2 years ago

it’s all about conspiracy to control teh menz!

shh, they might be listening!

It’s sort of funny. They claim to be ultra smart and know all the sciences but when you dig into what they actually claim, it’s all misinterpreted distortions of cherry-picked studies or badly-remembered high school biology. They know they’re smart (’cause they’ve always been told they’re smart), so they don’t even question the idea that their grade 11 biology course might possibly have been a micro-introduction to the topic with huge generalizations up and down it. No, they figure it’s the height of knowledge!

Speaking of: the idea of “we’re all female in the womb, then development makes some male!” is one of those high school generalizations. We’re undifferentiated at first and, without the presence of testosterone, sexual traits develop towards cis-female.

It’s sort of neat how that happens too! At that stage, the cells in question are impermeable to estradiol (estrogen), but not to testosterone. So if there’s sufficient testosterone around it will enter the cell, which then turns it to estradiol, which then does the estradiol thing inside the cell to masculinize it. (Testosterone and estradiol are chemically very similar; it’s just got a little wonk on the end between them and a little more hydrogen aside it. Take that how you will)

So next time those dorkuses womble on about manly testosterone and the horrors of soy? Feel free to remind them that estrogens (and phytoestrogens) are chemical relatives to testosterone and their digested products are perfectly suited for synthesizing their precious man-juice; and while you’re at it tell’em that all their manly man-bits were made because there was sufficient estrogen in their dongle-cells while they were in the womb.

Then put on your shades and walk away from explosions.

Feministguy
Feministguy
2 years ago

What a load of rubbish

Shaming people for how much sex they do or dont have is daft. These so called MGTOWS need to hang their heads in shame

EJ (The Other One)
2 years ago

@Mish:
Could you link me please? I’ve checked his twitter feed and it’s just Rick and Morty jokes.

I like Harris Bomberguy. I hope I don’t have to stop liking him.

@Feministguy:
Wasn’t that something you were doing in the other thread?

Feministguy
Feministguy
2 years ago

Nope, sex and money isnt indicator of whether a person is good or bad.

Z&T
Z&T
2 years ago

@ F is for Fro,

Try looking for “Bridge Mix”.

Nequam
Nequam
2 years ago

@Feministguy:

You’re still here?

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
2 years ago

@Mish

I had to unfollow HBomb after he went full BernieBro (it’s hard to take his self-proclaimed feminism seriously when half of his tweets are “HILLARY CLINTON IS WORSE THAN HITLER AND SATAN COMBINED” and/or “TRUMP-RUSSIA IS A HOAX”). What’d he do now?

bekabot
bekabot
2 years ago

“I always imagine this person at the end of their life with an Everyman-style review of their deeds and watching them try to justify all the time and effort they’ve devoted to being terrible, and all they have to show for it is a headstone destined to be overgrown and forgotten.”

That’s the penultimate scene in A Christmas Carol, which is a prime revenge fantasy if ever there was one.

http://www.biblicalcounselingthroughsong.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/RepentantScrooge.jpg

(Added: now there’s a revenge fantasy that is a revenge fantasy, a revenge fantasy worthy of the name, and it’s as unlike the puling squalid attempts at revenge fantasies ones finds in the manosphere as brie is from butter).

F is for Fro
F is for Fro
2 years ago

@Z&T

Found some!!! Thank you!

whatevermynameis
whatevermynameis
2 years ago

*sigh* Alas, there is no better way to tell that a dude hasn’t done anything with his life than when he launches into a rant about how “dah menz built society”. Bob, sit down. You didn’t build jack shit. And you don’t get to appropriate the accomplishments of others just by virtue of them being the same gender as you.

Talonknife
Talonknife
2 years ago

Do they think sex is a limited resource or something? Like a woman can only sex so many times in her lifetime and then she runs out of charges like a video game ability?

(I mean, technically sex would be a limited resource since we only have so much time in our lives, but that also applies to us dudes, too.)

EJ (The Other One)
2 years ago

Do they think sex is a limited resource or something? Like a woman can only sex so many times in her lifetime and then she runs out of charges like a video game ability?

Yes, they literally believe this.

To manospherians, a woman is diminished and less attractive every time she’s penetrated (which is the only sort of sex they believe ciswomen are capable of having.) Eventually, she achieves the fabled “thousand cock stare”, and becomes an object of revulsion rather than of lust.

Or, to put it another way, a woman gets XP from sex, and every time she levels up she strengthens her Repel Manospherians aura. This is exactly equivalent to the above, but I somehow suspect they wouldn’t put it that way.

Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
2 years ago

@EJ, @sfhc

@Clawshrimpy is the Twitter handle of the person at the centre of the whole thing; they’ve been tweeting and sharing about it so I don’t think they’d mind me sharing their name.
They’ve also been talking with another user – @hungandbuxom – about it quite a bit.

I’m honestly still processing it, so I’m resisting the temptation to try and summarise the whole thing (not to mention it’s really complicated and I’m not too good at being succinct).
It seems to have begun when Clawshrimpy made a video pointing out elements of toxic masculinity in the anime Gurenn Lagann, and HB took exception to it. The fact that this happened at the height of GG is also pretty awful.

But I’ll leave it there. I’m having one of those “please no, not this person as well” moments 🙁

epitome of incomprehensibility

Pah, this is so silly. Women aren’t only valuable because they give birth and people who give birth don’t “just pop out kids”. Pop out indeed. Plus, from the way Mr. FuckTOW writes “bond with… a cock” it sounds as if someone’s body is literally fusing with a penis. If I want mixed metaphors and body horror, I’ll read Les Chants de Maldoror.

@Dvärghundspossen and Mish – Good luck with jobby things! I’m also looking for a level-up this summer from my tutoring centre work to college* English teaching. Right now I’m exhausted from the April end-of-term rush; getting into a college as an ESL or literature teacher would start as part-time and not tenured, like what you’re doing, but at least I’d have a firmer schedule.

*in Quebec, it’s is a thing between high school and university, if you want to do university; in most cases you need a Master’s to teach at this level, though a PhD (don’t have) or relevant experience (hope I have) is a plus

Dalillama: Irate Social Engineer

@Scildfreja

For men this has become the root of a bunch of “no masturbating, no pornography, don’t waste your manhood”

Nah, that’s just putting a pseudoscientific veneer on a very old trope.

littlem
littlem
2 years ago

I came over to see this, because I couldn’t believe it …
I am scared that it’s been years and they’re still trying to get past that 101-level “Women Are Things” model.

Let’s get back to the interesting stuff, linking them to the Milos Yiannopoulos attempted riot-starters and crying Cantwell Nazis to the Trump supporters, so we can get rid of them all in one fell swoop. https://splinternews.com/vice-has-fired-the-writer-who-told-breitbarts-milo-yian-1819218391

TreePerson
TreePerson
2 years ago

@Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
I remember Clawshrimpy being really unpopular on 4chan’s /m/-mecha,
the only thing I remember was something about the way Simon intervened in Rossiu’s suicide attempt right before the final act.

Fabe
Fabe
2 years ago

Gurenn Lagann as toxic masculinity? Hmm never really though if it that way Sure,hyper masculinity but was it toxic? maybe its time for a re-watch.

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
2 years ago

@whatevermynameis

You don’t get to appropriate the accomplishments of others just by virtue of them being the same gender as you.

What?

I don’t have Mariah Carey’s five-octave vocal range? This is disappointing.

whatevermynameis
whatevermynameis
2 years ago

@Kat

That made me laugh a little. XD Thank you.

BritterSweet
2 years ago

I actually forgot about Rationalization Hamster and, given the subject of this particular article, I at first thought the word was a reference to “Your Mother Was a Hamster.”

http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Pleased-Knight-Gif-From-Monty-Python-And-The-Holy-Grail.gif

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
2 years ago

@bekabot

“I always imagine this person at the end of their life with an Everyman-style review of their deeds and watching them try to justify all the time and effort they’ve devoted to being terrible, and all they have to show for it is a headstone destined to be overgrown and forgotten.”

That’s the penultimate scene in A Christmas Carol, which is a prime revenge fantasy if ever there was one.

I love A Christmas Carol. Is it a revenge fantasy? A tale of social justice? Yes!

Manospherians, you are Ebenezer Scrooge — bitter complainers who loathe all that exists. Of course, Ebenezer has a change of heart, one of the most famous changes of heart ever.

Are manospherians destined to remain crybabies (no offense intended to actual crying babies) forever? Dunno. As with Ebenezer Scrooge, their future is entirely up to themselves and the choices they make.

Moggie
Moggie
2 years ago

OT: remember the recent revelations about John K (of Ren & Stimpy fame)? Well, he’s hitting back, and it’s as revolting as you’d expect. TW: if you’re an abuse survivor, you might want to skip this one.

Zaunfink
Zaunfink
2 years ago

@scildfreja

I feel a lot more intelligent/knowledgeable after reading your posts and at the same time, my brain is trying to desperately exit my skull in disgust and to escape the impending stupidity. That level almost has to be catching.

Goodness. They really are exceedingly silly, insecure and plain dumb.
I just…. How are we at the same time completely stupid, unable to think like the menz and fucking pair bond like a simple animal to the first cock we get and yet, we are tempting seductresses, part of a hidden feminist overladyship full of wily wiles, who have the most complicated plans to take over and enslave the menz?
I mean, if they’re all brilliant examples of the greatest thing since sliced bread and we are silly, unthinking feeeeemales – how come we are still running around freely, changing the world?

I just…. The mind boggles.

And thank you for that really interesting information about “we’re all female in the womb” (and the information in general, I just love how thoroughly you – and others, of course – are able to answer and how knowledgeable you all are!)

LittleLurker
LittleLurker
2 years ago

Unless she was particularly young and easier to gaslight/emotionally manipulate.

That is exactly how it works, yes. Add enough questionable attitudes towards women/men and relationships in your immediate surroundings and suddenly “You’ll never find someone asking less of you than me…” becomes a totally believable statement. My only consolation is the memory of his face when my answer was – after months of agonizing – that I supposed I was just going to stay single then.

But the point is, that this is often exactly how it works. And it would have worked on me even if I had been a lot older. People with little experience are very easy targets, sadly. These guys don’t want someone who has a sense of their own worth or of how they should be treated from previous experiences.

opposablethumbs
opposablethumbs
2 years ago

Thought this might be of interest: a look at the links between male entitlement and violence, in the MSM Grauniad.

The comments btl are currently closed, but who would ‘a thunk it, for once the currently most-upvoted comments are currently mostly sensible! Knock me down with a feather. (Well, currently at the time of writing they are, anyway, currently; no idea if this will continue to be the case later :-s)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/08/violent-extremists-share-one-thing-gender-michael-kimmel

opposablethumbs
opposablethumbs
2 years ago

My only consolation is the memory of his face when my answer was – after months of agonizing – that I supposed I was just going to stay single then.


That sounds like a hell of a good memory to have, LittleLurker. Hat off to you for doing that even from a position of being pressured and undermined.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
2 years ago

Good for you, LittleLurker. I’m glad you got out of there.

These guys don’t want someone who has a sense of their own worth or of how they should be treated from previous experiences.

That’s what “negging” is all about. PUAs don’t expect it to work on every women. They use it to identify potential “seduction” (read: coercion) targets: women who are unsure about their boundaries and won’t put up much resistance to enforce them. It’s thoroughly vile.

Feministguy
Feministguy
2 years ago

What these idiots dont realise is that you can still form meaningful relationships with women without intimacy and sex

PUA is a load of immoral rubbish. Their idea is that sex is the end goal, another point on the scoreboard and the consequences (emotional/mental/social) for the woman is not important. Selfish manipulation

Shadowplay
2 years ago

What these idiots dont realise is that you can still form meaningful relationships with women without intimacy and sex

They don’t WANT to do that. You’d be as well telling them to make friends with their microwave.

Weird (thumper of trumpanzees) Eddie
Weird (thumper of trumpanzees) Eddie
2 years ago

@opposablethumbs, re: guardian article. Good piece, Kimmel done has a decent service with his interviews with extremists. I disagree on one point, tho, I don’t believe he gives enough weight to the effects of economic disenfranchisement on the growth of extremism in the third world. And among the left in the industrialized countries (first world?). Note, this does not apply to the right in the industrialized world, as their (whites at least) economic disenfranchisement is all in their heads.

Shadowplay
2 years ago

Don’t care how much good service Kimmel has done.

If you’re in an argument and your go to insult is “gay” or variations, you can fuck right off. Even if you’re arguing with a tosser.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Looks like Tony Robbins has gone full Warren “men are oppressed by sexy butts” Farrell.

https://www.glamour.com/story/tony-robbins-metoo-burke-response

Who’s surprised? I’m not.

His brand of “self help” is all about victim blaming bullshit. It’s no surprise he’d apply that to sexual abuse.

Dormousing_it
Dormousing_it
2 years ago

@Shadowplay:

I think you might be confusing Michael Kimmel with Jimmy Kimmel.

mcbender
2 years ago

@opposablethumbs

That’s a really good piece, and Kimmel makes some important points in it. He’s absolutely right that toxic masculinity (though he doesn’t use the term) and the way it intersects with men’s self-identity to lead them into very toxic modes of thought and action. That said, I personally am a bit wary of Kimmel; I think it’s very important that the sociology of masculinity be studied, and I appreciate him doing it, but his 2008 book Guyland struck me as weirdly wrongheaded (and I was unable to finish it). In an early chapter of that book he seemed to argue there was a natural progression for men from children through adolescence to adulthood which he specifically characterised as marriage and fatherhood (not, mind, describing this view as a cultural ideal or anything, it seemed to accept it), and claiming a lot of the problems were with the adolescent/early adulthood period being extended indefinitely and never moved on from. I’m not denying he observed some real phenomena, but the theory he put forward to explain it (and the equation of maturity with fatherhood) came off as very heteronormative and dismissive to me (especially as someone who is childfree by choice and on the demi/ace spectrum) and convinced me it wasn’t worth reading further.

It’s entirely possible he addressed this later in the book, or that his thinking has moved on from this in later work, but as that seemed to be a central thesis of the book the former at least seemed unlikely to me. I was very disappointed to find this in a book that had come to me very highly recommended; I don’t remember exactly the context in which it was recommended to me, but I think it might’ve been around the start of gamergate?

It also makes me want to link this piece, which I first read a couple of years ago and think is an excellent breakdown of how this works, and how easy it is to get sucked into: “Masculinity is an Anxiety Disorder” http://uncannymagazine.com/article/masculinity-is-an-anxiety-disorder-breaking-down-the-nerd-box/

I’ve been thinking about trying to write a piece at some point about male homosociality (NB: not a typo) and how it reinforces these kind of toxic dynamics, as well as encouraging the dehumanisation of women, but I just haven’t had the energy to write for so long that I doubt I’ll be productive any time soon.

@Mish, SFHC et al on the Hbomb issues

Thanks so much for bringing this up, I’d been completely unaware any of this was going on and it’s really disturbing. I like Hbomb’s work but this is the first I’d heard of any of it (which, if I’m interpreting this correctly, appears to be by design?). I will definitely be looking into this more.