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Incel Problems: “My dad saw my Chad folder and now he thinks I’m gay”

No, not THAT Chad!

By David Futrelle

Ok, so let’s say you’re a totally normal dude who just happens to be, you know, an incel. And like most normal dudes you keep a folder full of pics of super handsome shirtless dudes on your computer, not because you like to look at them or anything but because you need them as evidence you can pull out at a moment’s notice the next time you get into an argument with someone online who doesn’t believe the totally true fact that super handsome dudes who are capable of removing their shirts are literally the only dudes in the world who can get dates with women unless, I dunno, the woman is super icky or a sex robot or just wants money from you or something.

And then your dad finds your folder of super handsome shirtless dudes and all hell breaks loose.

 My Dad Saw My "Chad Folder" and Now Thinks I'm a Homosexual Even More (self.Braincels) submitted 19 days ago by NoTimeForCucks I made a few posts ago how my dad accused me of being gay since I don't and have never had a girlfriend or showed any interest in getting one. Well now he saw my Chad folder which is just really attractive guys with mostly their shirts off. He now straight up thinks I'm gay and I couldn't convince him that they were just for r/braincels and incels.me I sounded like a stuttering IDIOT

Dude. Dude. Dude!

I’m sorry about your dad, who honestly sounds like a bit of a jerk, but there’s nothing inherently weird about having a folder full of pics of shirtless hunky dudes on your computer.

It wouldn’t be weird if you had a folder full of pics of shirtless hunky dudes because you think they’re hot, regardless of whether you think of yourself as gay or bi or straight or asexual or whatever. It wouldn’t be weird if you had a folder full of pics of shirtless hunky dudes NOT because you think they’re hot but because, I dunno, you were trying to learn how to draw superheroes and wanted some pics of buff male torsos to use as a reference. Or because you like making funny photoshops with them. Or because you’re trying to get buff yourself and want inspiration. Or just because for some unknown reason you find looking at them very relaxing.

I mean, there are hundreds of non-weird reasons you might have a shirtless hunk folder on your hard drive.

The only weird reason I can think of for having a shirtless hunk folder on your hard drive is because you need them as evidence you can pull out at a moment’s notice the next time you get into an argument with someone online who doesn’t believe the totally true not true fact that super handsome dudes who are capable of removing their shirts are literally the only dudes in the world who can get dates with women.

It would also be weird if you had a folder full of pics of Chad Kroeger, but that’s a whole other can of worms my friend.

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Shadowplay
3 years ago

Always wondered what the parents of these dolts thought about their kids.

dashapants
dashapants
3 years ago

This is just so…

It’s so…

*giggles uncontrollably*

…precious.

Jeff Fecke
Jeff Fecke
3 years ago

So let’s see, the guy:

*Has no interest in dating women, and never has

*Has a folder full of attractive shirtless guys

Now, he might not be gay or bisexual. But I don’t think he should dismiss the possibility out of hand. At the very least, maybe spend less time on r/braincels and more time with a therapist. I’m just saying, it’s not out of the realm of possibility that he’s attracted to men but so in denial that he’s lashing out at women — in order to put up a strong defense against being seen as gay. If so, then I hope this helps him figure that out. If nothing else, therapy would help him be less of a schmuck to women, whether he’s straight, gay, bi, ace, or pan, so there’s no downside.

HiddenTurtle
HiddenTurtle
3 years ago

I’m just confused about how a folder of hot dude pictures would even prove certain incel points? That’s just evidence that…hot guys exist? Are they like baseball cards, with stats of how many women they’ve gotten with?

kupo
kupo
3 years ago

@Jeff Fecke
I’m a bit uncomfortable about speculating on the sexuality of other people. Straight guys can have photos of attractive guys. It’s only toxic masculinity that assumes there must be a sexual reason for it.

Shadowplay
3 years ago

@Hidden Turtle

How else are they supposed to measure canthal tilt, wrist circumference, or the billion other measurements they think mean something? Not many concious and breathing people will stay still for that crap.

Moggie
Moggie
3 years ago

In that thread, he says he’s 18 and in high school. But someone links to a post he made days earlier in which he claimed to be 25 years old. Sounds like he’s just trolling.

Moggie
Moggie
3 years ago

But if he is 18? Dude: plenty of time yet. I get it: I remember the melodrama of being a teenager! But don’t write yourself off so quickly!

Steph Tohill
Steph Tohill
3 years ago

Strange, strange, strange, strange…

And I think ye incel doth protest too much…
It’s a nice excuse “oh these images – they’re just for if I’m arguing online…”

It’s not as if merely whipping out a photo is going to prove some weird incel point that only hot men get the women! (Especially when people have eyes and can look around them.)

Steph Tohill
Steph Tohill
3 years ago

@Jeff Fecke,

My thoughts too. He would probably find himself happier if he interrogated his feelings properly.

Shadowplay
3 years ago

Moggie

I’ll take your word he claimed to be 25 elsewhere. Sounds more 18 to me – but they all do.

Diego Duarte
Diego Duarte
3 years ago

I sooo want to comment this but I am busy dying of laughter. Someone please come by to revive me in about 20 minutes.

EDIT: Okay done with that.

I wonder how old the OP is and why his dad has access to his computer. I was of the impression that incels were mostly around their late 20s or early 30s.

On the other hand, there are plenty of valid reasons to have these sort of pics in your PC (being gay included). Pretty much the only non-valid reason is the one stated by the OP.

Steph Tohill
Steph Tohill
3 years ago

@Moggie

I’m a member of a Facebook group which posts the strange shit incels says.

We have a member who admitted he had had once thoughts but was working on himself to not give in to what he felt was a developing bitterness towards women for the fact he had never had a girlfriend.

He is 16…

Iseult The Idle
Iseult The Idle
3 years ago

I dunno, I think guys start declaring themselves incels if supermodels aren’t trying to seduce them by puberty. Incel is the new Outsider.

But I agree with Moggie, in this instance. I think this guy is just trolling.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Sounds kind of like thinspo. The pictures are not really there to prove a point or provide motivation or provide any enjoyment. They’re just there to reinforce the collector’s worldview.

Gijoel
Gijoel
3 years ago

Next up, I really did totally trip in the bathtub and fell on a dildo. But everyone at the hospital totally thinks I’m gay.

DeimosMasque
DeimosMasque
3 years ago

@Moogie
“But if he is 18? Dude: plenty of time yet. I get it: I remember the melodrama of being a teenager! But don’t write yourself off so quickly!”

I know right? I mean I didn’t have my first date until I was 20 and didn’t meet my wife until 4 years later.

My brother in law has his first real girlfriend at age 26.

And that’s just me and my immediate family. A couple of my friends didn’t start dating until their mid 30s early 40s.

That’s what honestly makes me happy that reddit and the incel thing wasn’t easily found back when I was a teen. I feel like I might have fallen into the same hole these people have.

Now that I’m older I’m glad I didn’t just give up on dating at 18 (seriously besides ace people and the like who does that?)

It just feels like this guy has believed the lie pop culture projects that life ends after highschool.

Alexis Filth
Alexis Filth
3 years ago

Yeah, I guess I could see my 18 year old self trying to convince myself that the pictures of hot guys on my PC were for some other reason. Incels both disgust me and make me feel sad. There’s just so much damage toxic masculinity and the patriarchy has done to these guys, but then again, it’s their decision to wallow in their misery.

Bina's Little iPad Sock
Bina's Little iPad Sock
3 years ago

Posting pics of hot dudes wins arguments online? How? “My hot dude is hotter than yours”? Is that how it works?

Incel logic really is a raging contradiction in terms. I hope his dad is more of a help to him than his fellow haters are.

Steph Tohill
Steph Tohill
3 years ago

It’s funny I’m 37 and have never been in a serious relationship (as in the kind where you would introduce your partner to your family) yet I’ve managed to avoid the anger and bitterness some of these young men develop at 16-18. I guess it’s what happens when being in a relationship/having sex becomes an integral part of your identity.

Feministguy
Feministguy
3 years ago

DeimosMasque

Giving up on dating can be very healthy and good IF DONE IN THE RIGHT WAY. If you fill the time you spend on tinder or approaching women in bars getting rejected with instead meditating, reading about politics, walking, travelling it can be good.

Steph- 100% agree. Defining yourself on your romantic success is a recepie to disaster.

I think giving up on dating is unfairly frowned upon.

And also at 16-18 the main concern (especially for males where suicide is the biggest killer) is HAPPINESS. Not dating , not sex, not intimiacy but HAPPINESS. Also direction. Id imagine the 18 year old has college/studies that can define his future- far bigger deal than getting or not getting a date

DeimosMasque
DeimosMasque
3 years ago

@Feministguy
“Giving up on dating can be very healthy and good IF DONE IN THE RIGHT WAY. If you fill the time you spend on tinder or approaching women in bars getting rejected with instead meditating, reading about politics, walking, travelling it can be good.”

Absolutely. That’s why I even mentioned asexuals and others who would, for their own reasons, not necessarily seek out partners.

Fill that time with bitterness and anger. And then aim it at the wrong target (honestly as I suggested in my last post it is pop culture that creates the stigma not women.) That’s extremely unhealthy and it seems hard to pull yourself out after entrenching it these vitriolic online communities.

When I wasn’t dating, while I did lament it because my friends all had girlfriends, I didn’t wallow in it (all the time) I focused on my writing, science fiction and RPGs.

Online MUXes actually helped the most as I got that sense of community I desired without it being all about what I didn’t have.

Feministguy
Feministguy
3 years ago

Finally someone who agrees with me:) Thats what I am teaching incels to do ! Im experienced in this field. I think even straight males and females can live without romance in a healthy manner

kupo
kupo
3 years ago

I like how he continues to not acknowledge that we’ve agreed with him on that point this entire time.

Podkayne Lives
Podkayne Lives
3 years ago

If I were his father I’d much rather he had a folder of men he thought were sexually appealing than a folder of hot men who prove some kind of bizarre grudge he has against women.

Friendly Neighborhood Dragon Arthur
Friendly Neighborhood Dragon Arthur
3 years ago

Why is it every time I hear the name “Chad”, I think more of the guy who thinks he’s hot stuff but actually isn’t than whatever these other guys are thinking of?

Maybe it’s because I don’t mind looking at hunky, shirtless guys?

Maybe its’ because I’m too busy with other things in life that I’m not trying to prove something?

I don’t know… Sometimes I wonder how I can even be on the internet when there’s so much stupidity on it.

whatevermynameis
whatevermynameis
3 years ago

Ma dude, if you have an entire folder full of pictures of hot guys, I’d think it’s very much a safe bet to assume you’re at least a little bit into men.

Mmyeah. XD That said, every time I hear “Chad”, all I think of is Chad Dylan Cooper, the Sonny with a Chance character. And maybe also the country. But I’m probably just weird like that.

brian
brian
3 years ago

if you’ve never had any interest in having a girlfriend, can you really day you’re an incel? I mean, technically he said he’s never “shown” any interest, but still… it sounds like he’s never even tried to date someone and somehow is already an incel…
oh wait, I just realized I’m acting like this incredibly toxic, damaging movement/philosophy/whatever-the-fuck has any real sense behind it.

Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
3 years ago

off-topic

The Atlantic off-loads garbage-bag-of-toxic-masculinity Kevin Williamson… apparently they found out he really is like he always said he is….

… *duh*

tim gueguen
3 years ago

Did you know Sean Penn has written a novel? It’s called Bob Honey Who Just Do Stuff. Apparently it’s really bad, full of purple prose, over-alliteration, and other problems.

Msexceptiontotherule
Msexceptiontotherule
3 years ago

Some people take a while to figure things out in regard to sex, sexual preferences, sex they do not want ever for any reason, and they have the right to decide when, with whom, what is off the table of sex they choose for themselves!

Whether they’re 18 or 58 they get to decide! And those younger than 18 shouldn’t feel like they have to know RIGHT THIS SECOND before it’s too late or whatever. Seriously. Quit taking away the wonders of going through and figuring shit out from people!

DeimosMasque
DeimosMasque
3 years ago

@Kupo

I was thinking that myself. I was after all lurking in that thread where he first showed up.

The disagreement most seem to have (and I share the skepticism) was the idea of “saving the incels.” You can’t save people who don’t want to listen to your message.

It’s the same reason the “coming to Jesus” moment in Rapture movies are silly. No one watching the movie is going to convert… they either already believe or will think the movie is bad and not care.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Weird Eddie,

I don’t think it’s because they found out how bad he was. It’s because female subscribers continued to complain and continued to unsubscribe from the magazine. Initially the editor in chief defended the hire even after those comments about how women who get abortions should be hanged were brought to his attention.

Sorry if the article already noted that. I didn’t actually read it.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
3 years ago

I’m sure he only ever looks at his Chad folder for the articles.

It is interesting how oriented (not in a sexual way, but in a paying-attention-to way) toxic dudes are towards other men. Redpill field reports frequently describe the competitor men in considerable detail, including height, weight, musculature, and what they were wearing. The women? They barely exist in the narrative except as generic HB8s, plates, thots, etc. Sex, if any, is glossed over as an uninteresting triviality. Only the men have any sort of dimensionality.

Then again, 99% of RP field reports never happened, so of course they’re going to be vague.

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
3 years ago

The way he just kinda glides right past ‘Chad folder’ like it’s just a thing, do incels generally have those? He just says it like it’s normal, like he don’t need to explain what the fuck that is. Is this a regular feature on the hard drives of these guys? So many questions

Fluffy Spider
Fluffy Spider
3 years ago

While the reasoning is odd for having it, it is weird to be judged for a folder of shirtless buff men
I have a folder of all size men and women to give me ideas on how to vary my art
Everyone is beautiful in their own way to me (is it weird I don’t have body type preferences)

PeeVee the Tired
PeeVee the Tired
3 years ago

Axe,

I thought the same thing!

He blithely says “Guys, my dad found my Chad folder” in much the same way someone from yesteryear would say “Guys, my dad found my Penthouses.”

I agree…so many questions…

And yeah, I pretty much think he’s just trolling, especially with that explanation for the 25/26 age thing: (paraphrased) “Well, I know when I’m that age, I’ll still be a loser, so I want to get my arguments squared away ahead of time, and that’s why I asked that question.”

Yeah…not really buying it.

Shadowplay
3 years ago

The way he just kinda glides right past ‘Chad folder’ like it’s just a thing, do incels generally have those? He just says it like it’s normal, like he don’t need to explain what the fuck that is.

It is a tad odd.

Wonder if they have Stacey folders as well, for the ten minutes hate.

TreePerson
TreePerson
3 years ago

@Gijoel
Just going to unpack a couple of things here,

Next up, I really did totally trip in the bathtub and fell on a dildo. But everyone at the hospital totally thinks I’m gay.

Its almost always something other than a sex toy (shampoo bottles are a common stereotype) since a good sex toy is usually designed to not get stuck in ones rectum (some one with actual stats on this a free to correct me) and anal masturbation is not an indicator of orientation.

@Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger

The way he just kinda glides right past ‘Chad folder’ like it’s just a thing, do incels generally have those?

Back before I bailed on an increasingly toxic 4chan everyone there talked about their “xyv folder” like it was the most normal thing in the world which was usually a folder dedicated to a specific meme or type of image (or porn) like say a “doge folder” or “reaction image folder” so I imagine incels have a lot of tics like that in common with general *chan culture just flavored with their specific form of toxicity.

EJ (The Other One)
3 years ago

@Bina:

Posting pics of hot dudes wins arguments online? How? “My hot dude is hotter than yours”? Is that how it works?

It’s official: Pics of hot dudes is the new Pokemon.

TreePerson
TreePerson
3 years ago

@EJ (The Other One)
You know at one point they wanted the American version to redraw all the pokemon as buff pro wrestler guys?

occasional reader
occasional reader
3 years ago

> Shadowplay

Wonder if they have Stacey folders as well, for the ten minutes hate.

Or is it the ten minutes fap, as they say ?

Handsome :Punkle Stan: Jack

If I were his father I’d much rather he had a folder of men he thought were sexually appealing than a folder of hot men who prove some kind of bizarre grudge he has against women

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Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
3 years ago

My Boyfriend Saw My Recipes Folder and Now He Thinks I’m Gonna Make Him Double-Cheese Lasagna!

It’s a folder of recipes and photos of really attractive dishes that take a long time to make. I have it just to remind myself that I’m too pressed for time to make vegan mushroom stroganoff or five-grain bread or even avocado toast. But now my boyfriend has the totally wrong impression!

Oh, and he saw my folder of handsome shirtless dudes and said I didn’t stand a chance with any of them, including Brad Pitt. But maybe if I made avocado toast for Brad . . . ♥ ♥ ♥

Uly
Uly
3 years ago

If you fill the time you spend on tinder or approaching women in bars getting rejected with instead meditating, reading about politics, walking, traveling it can be good.

I don’t think these guys should read about politics….

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
3 years ago

Melania Trump promised to do something, but I guess Amnesty International got tired of waiting

Twitter is so ‘toxic’ that Amnesty International is enlisting a ‘Troll Patrol’ to help police it

Amnesty International is taking it upon itself to help police harassment on Twitter.

On Wednesday, the human rights organization commenced with Troll Patrol,” a project which will recruit volunteers to find and analyze potentially abusive tweets directed at female journalists, activists and politicians.

http://www.businessinsider.com/amnesty-international-launches-troll-patrol-2018-4

Dvärghundspossen
Dvärghundspossen
3 years ago

I’m just confused about how a folder of hot dude pictures would even prove certain incel points? That’s just evidence that…hot guys exist? Are they like baseball cards, with stats of how many women they’ve gotten with?

Yeah that’s my thought too. Like what? What could pics of hot dudes prove? But maybe it makes perfect sense if you’re part of this weird incel subculture.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
3 years ago

@ Kat

vegan mushroom stroganoff

Do you have a vacancy for a ‘beta orbiter’?

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
3 years ago

@Alan
Yes! The cats are always hinting that they’d like extra parents, just in case our opposable thumbs become damaged.

Not gonna cook for you, though. I cook only for Brad Pitt.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
3 years ago

@ Kat

Yes! The cats are always hinting that they’d like extra parents

I’d quite like to be a fairy catfather. My record of looking after other people’s cats can probably fairly be described as ‘mixed’, but I do love the furry little buggers so I’m sure that makes up for it.

Not gonna cook for you, though. I cook only for Brad Pitt.

It’s my wrists isn’t it?

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