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Can’t Drive, Can’t Shoot: Idiots respond to news that the YouTube shooter was female

Modified screenshot of news coverage earlier today

By David Futrelle

More than a few observers were surprised, as was I, by the news that the “active shooter” on the YouTube campus today was not another young man angry at the world, but a female YouTuber who blamed company policies for a drop in her channels’ views who shot and wounded three others before taking her own life. [Note: This paragraph has been corrected; see bottom of post for more details.]

Naturally, a bunch of Twitter dudes decided to respond to the tragedy with jokes about women being as bad at shooting as misogynistic idiots insist they are at driving.

https://twitter.com/AnthonyChannin2/status/981308137549500421

https://twitter.com/gregvegas/status/981289349542117381

https://twitter.com/Mason0010/status/981277110831431680

https://twitter.com/elderindro/status/981294495420608512

Others made inane “ironic” jokes about glass ceilings being broken, welcoming the female shooter, whose name has not yet been released, to the boys club.

https://twitter.com/WeWuzVikings/status/981308119904083969

Others made jokes about sandwiches and how this means women should stay in the home lol lmao #AmiriteFellas?

https://twitter.com/sinndustries/status/981303664160706560

https://twitter.com/bk5950/status/981306476147937280

https://twitter.com/pvrgist2/status/981296657655529473

Then there were these dudes:

Congratulations, fellas! Amazing work all around. Really doing your gender proud.

NOTE: This post has been corrected. The initial news reports suggested the shooting may have been related to a domestic dispute, and I said something to that effect in the first paragraph. The police later released the name of the shooter, Nasim Aghdam, a YouTube creator. NBC is now reporting that she was angry with YouTube for allegedly discriminating against her and filtering her channel in such a way that she lost a lot of her audience.

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Myriad
Myriad
2 years ago

So, is this their new tactic to deflect from the fact that someone was firing a gun in public with the intention to kill? AGAIN… 😟 Because the jokes are not funny. Not even courtesy laugh funny. Not even groan funny. 😡

Handsome :Punkle Stan: Jack

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I wonder if any of these assholes have cried “too soon to talk about gun control” after a mass shooting.

Also, can’t wait for the trolls in this thread.

Redsilkphoenix: Jetpack Vixen, FemiNest Collective agent, Hell Toupee keeper, & Intergalactic Meanie
Redsilkphoenix: Jetpack Vixen, FemiNest Collective agent, Hell Toupee keeper, & Intergalactic Meanie
2 years ago

Uhm, why are they dragging Lauren Southern into this? A fast Google search tells me she’s Canadian, and right-wing to boot. Why is she supposed to publicly condemn something she has no control over over here in the US?

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
2 years ago

“active shooter”

I’ve always found that an odd turn of phrase. As opposed to what; a passive shooter?

Z&T
Z&T
2 years ago

Was at a loss for thoughts here, vague things like self and friends here all have sports cars (and can and do work on them), and I myself am going more “practical” next time.

Then the thought came to me, that our Miss T here used to have a Jaguar, and if anything would set someone off, that’d be it.

But did it? Um, no. She fixed the thing herself!

This is a mechanical GOD.

If a Jag won’t crack your mind, nothing will.

Starfury
Starfury
2 years ago

@redsilkphoenix

I think the Lauren Southern thing is meant to be a reflection of how she responds to attacks when the perpetrator is Muslim. That was my take anyways

WHTM

Thank you for the speedy compilation. Sexism is nothing if not utterly predictable.

AJ from GA
AJ from GA
2 years ago

@Alan

The term is used by various law enforcement agencies to mean that the suspect is targeting multiple people in a confined (or well populated) location seemingly without motive in the selection of their targets.

So an assassin wouldn’t be an active shooter for example.

The term is a way to distinguish which tactics should be used. A police, SWAT, etc. response to an active shooter would be different than to an attempted assassination, hostage situation, barricaded hostile, etc. An active shooter demands a much quicker approach, as one example. One such tactic is called Immediate Action Rapid Deployment (or IARD).

Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
Kat, ambassador of the feminist government in exile
2 years ago

@GROWVEGETABLESANDMOREYELLING

Ladies, get married, get knocked up, leave the workplace.

Of course someone with your abilities would prefer less competition.

Not gonna happen. Not even sorry that this ruins your plans and breaks your heart.

Try working harder. And smarter.

Ooglyboggles
Ooglyboggles
2 years ago

Uncute attempt at deflecting the gun violence problem.

Austin Loomis
2 years ago

the passage about ‘kill all men wherever you find them’ is taken out of context

So, he thinks the SCUM Manifesto is Teh Feminizm’s* holy book?

(* The cartoon feminism in Tigzy’s alleged head, which has as much to do with actual feminism as the nefarious plots of the imaginary “Democrat Party” have to do with the actual policy positions and actions of the actually-existing Democratic Party.)

Bina's Little iPad Sock
Bina's Little iPad Sock
2 years ago

Oh look, a bunch of menzers who still can’t make their own damn sammitches. Who are also totally insecure about their own job skills. And who never miss an opportunity to whine about it, even in the context of a totally unrelated incident.

I wish I were shocked, but between this and the gun shit, I am just too damn tired. And BORED.

epitome of incomprehensibility

I didn’t hear that until now. I’m glad no one else was killed.

…And to the assorted anti-feminists, making sandwich jokes? Really??

Its hard to aim and shoot while making a sandwich.

Yeah, no shit, but you could say that about a lot of things. It’s hard to shoot a gun while doing surgery. It’s hard to shoot a gun while doing snowboarding tricks. It’s hard to shoot a gun while emailing ones’ students about the assignment they’re supposed to do (which is what I’m supposed to be doing right now…)

Basically, all of the Tweets are garbage except for Ali Dawah’s – a bit gotcha-y, but he had a point about Islamaphobia.

Fluffy Spider
Fluffy Spider
2 years ago

I hate when jokes are made about shootings it’s just awful.

Hatred is the worst toxin of the human spirit.

I know what it’s like to wish karma upon an ex What she did though is the darkest form of that, while forgiveness isn’t always an option violence (unless self defensive) is never

…….
Sorry if I got preachy it’s just my feelings on the subject of anything similar

Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
2 years ago

@Austin Loomis

I still find it astounding how often Solanis is thrown at feminists as some kind of checkmate.
I wondered at first if this chap was referring to Clem Ford’s “kill all men” comment – but the “wherever you find them” is from SCUM, isn’t it?

Shadowplay
2 years ago

Never read Solanis’ manifesto. Should I bother?

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
2 years ago

…and this will be used forever and ever, world without end, to deflect attention away from the epidemic of angry white men with guns.

Meanwhile, all these asshelmets are crowing about how incompetent she was with her gun. As if taking more lives would have counted as a success.

Shadowplay
2 years ago

Oh joy. They’re gonna go nuts.

Her name has been released and, well, it ain’t exactly a WASP name.

Gijoel
Gijoel
2 years ago

That last one. wtf?

Moggie
Moggie
2 years ago

I suppose such a shooting was likely to happen sooner or later. Youtube demonetisation has hit a lot of content creators hard, and caused a lot of anger. It was inevitable that they would eventually piss off someone violent.

Zaunfink
Zaunfink
2 years ago

…and this will be used forever and ever, world without end, to deflect attention away from the epidemic of angry white men with guns.

Of course it will. Because actually trying to help and save people would be bad, a terrible idea in fact. Where would we get to if nobody hurt and killed others? We might *gasp* have peace and prosperity!

Knitting Cat Lady
Knitting Cat Lady
2 years ago

Why does the myth that ‘women can’t drive’ persist?

Most accidents are caused by young men, followed by the elderly in general.

And if youtube were consistent in their enforcement of their TOS people like Alex Jones, Carl of Swindon, Davis Aurini, etc. would have had their channels closed down ages ago.

TreePerson
TreePerson
2 years ago

I cant help but feel that this and the killdozer guy have some similarities regarding motive and body count and the reactions to both are quite telling,
violence committed by angry white men is celebrated and justified while violence by anyone else is used to excuse the violence of angry white men.

Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
2 years ago

One gets the impression that Twitter, YouTube et al opportunistically provided platforms to all the worst people to generate cult following and controversy (more traffic, more money), and are now stuck with the hate cults. Revoking the platform risks angering armed wannabe terrorists and lifestyle harassers who’ve grown entitled to using the platform.

TreePerson
TreePerson
2 years ago

@Knitting Cat Lady
Same reason aging cishet man comedians think the PC age is killing comedy,
they just tell the same sexist jokes about women being cold and not knowing how to drive they wrote back in the 70s/80s for other men.

Moggie
Moggie
2 years ago

Knitting Cat Lady:

Why does the myth that ‘women can’t drive’ persist?

Most accidents are caused by young men, followed by the elderly in general.

A majority of drivers over-estimate their own driving ability. See the wikipedia page on “illusory superiority” for some figures. Perhaps there are gender differences in this?

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
2 years ago

@ knitting cat lady

Most accidents are caused by young men, followed by the elderly in general.

In the UK women report more accidents to insurers than men. But they tend to be stuff that can be fixed with a bit of T-Cut; whereas men’s accidents are the “the motorway will remain closed for the next three days” type.

Consequently women’s car insurance was much cheaper. However under EU equality laws that had to change (you can’t differentiate cost of services on gender grounds). So, thanks for the subsidy I guess.

misophistry
misophistry
2 years ago

Thing is she didn’t miss. Macho idiots always ignore the injuries and go straight for the kill count.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
2 years ago

Uggh. In case anybody else was thinking “This is fucking horrific, but at least the shooter wasn’t yet another Nazi who grabbed their gun in the name of Trumpism”…

It’s now looking like she was. -_-

Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
2 years ago

@ Tree Person

aging cishet man comedians think the PC age is killing comedy

When I hear that, I have to wonder… why does these people’s comedy always have to be offensive to be “funny”??

@ Z & T

If a Jag won’t crack your mind, nothing will.

It’s not for nothing that Joe Lucas was called the Prince of Darkness

Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
2 years ago

@Shadowplay

Never read Solanis’ manifesto. Should I bother?

It depends. It’s not a “canonical” text of second-wave feminism, and Solanis was never really a part of that movement, for most people anyway.
As an historical ‘moment’, and also so that you can be fully informed while laughing at people who think SCUM = feminism, sure. It’s definitely not boring.
On the other hand, I definitely do not appreciate the contemporary idea that Solanis was mentally ill, therefore she can’t be taken seriously. As for whether SCUM was serious, or meant as satire, the jury is still out for most of us.

Shadowplay
2 years ago

Macho idiots always ignore the injuries and go straight for the kill count.

That’s down to video games, pure and simple. In real combat situations, you WANT to wound! A corpse can be ignored, screaming wounded takes at least two out of the fight and rattles the rest.

Edit to add:

Thank you, Mish. I’ll probably have a look at it then. See what the fuss is about. 😛

misophistry
misophistry
2 years ago

Shadowplay yes it shows a basic disconnect from reality.

Feministguy
Feministguy
2 years ago

The shooter obviously needs help and I hope she does get it

Good at no one died, nothing to joke about.

Shows that no one is immune from mental health problems, as humans we are capable of anything unfortunately

Shadowplay
2 years ago

Not sure any of them would recognise reality if it passed them in the street anymore. 🙁

They’re depressing buggers to think on. I mean, absolutely everyone can and will perform acts of self deception at times, that is part of being a functional human, but these dolts have raised it to an art form AND made it contagious. It’d be impressive if it weren’t so dangerous.

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
2 years ago

More like willfull ignorance to me. The fantasy of “kill the bad guy and everything will work out” would not survive that kind of reasonment, so they are weeded out.

Katamount
Katamount
2 years ago

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: gamification of body counts is the inevitable trend and here we have it on display once more.

Insert relevant Bojack Horseman clip (if it actually shows up):

Just as an aside, I see a couple familiar facepalmingly-awful personalities represented in David’s selection. The Amazing Atheist is one of those guys I see going to jail for any flavour of petty larceny if YouTube ever kicks him to the curb. And June/Shoe0nHead actually somehow infuriates me even more because while TJ Kirk revels in his awfulness and probably sees his future incarceration on the horizon, June is one of those dime-a-dozen YouTube “cultural commentators” who is desperately protective of her innocence regarding any of the societal ills around her. As YouTuber @Gwen_No_Fear pointed out on her recent stream, June gets really upset whenever she’s called out for saying something racist/sexist/transphobic, always falling back on “Why you picking on me, I’m just a funny haha YouTube girl! It was just jokes!” I’ve seen multiple people explain to her why BLM exists and isn’t racist, why the terms “tr@**y” and “tr@p” are transphobic and why being friends with Lauren Southern might raise some hackles with… well, everyone. People have patiently explained this stuff to her and yet she’s still somehow surprised that she gets the flak that she does.

Much like she did in that tweet about the shooting. Was she also surprised that there was gambling going on at Rick’s place? Sorry, June, we’re wayyyy past WTF moments when it comes to active shooter incidents.

It takes effort to maintain the innocence (read: ignorance) that preserves that simple of a worldview. Most people find a propaganda outlet like Fox or Breitbart and burrow themselves in like ticks, explaining away contrary data as “fake news” or some globalist conspiracy or somesuch, but she seems genuinely confused that people aren’t big into mocking social movements meant to ameliorate inequality and being buddy-buddies with straight-up white supremacists. I suppose that’s one point in her favour… sort of.

Steph Tohill
Steph Tohill
2 years ago

Ali Dawah seems to be sending up Lauren Southern’s stance on Islamist terror attacks. Pretty good job too.

Andrew
Andrew
2 years ago

I guess they also miss the fact that since she hand just a single hand gun and not an AR-15 she was able to do a lot less damage.

If all the mass shootings we have in this country from now on are similar to this one, it would be an improvement.

Ugh.

whatevermynameis
whatevermynameis
2 years ago

Shooting happens, these asshats’ only reaction is to make jokes about it. Stay drunk, America.

@Kat
Bet these very same people will then proceed to cry about alimony and child support. Not very bright, are they?

Katamount
Katamount
2 years ago

@Zaunfink

Where would we get to if nobody hurt and killed others? We might *gasp* have peace and prosperity!

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PeeVee the Tired
PeeVee the Tired
2 years ago

I am so tired.

Alex
Alex
2 years ago

UGH! These people are going to have a field day with all this and now that they figured out she’s Middle Eastern, I can already hear the comments from them in my head, diversity, cultural marxism, feminine empowerment, immigrants. I keep wondering if there is some sort cruel joke being played on us, between them and Trump, the world seems so bleak.

Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
2 years ago

@ Katamount, re: June/Shoe0nHead;

“Why you picking on me, I’m just a funny haha YouTube girl! It was just jokes!”

again, why does these people’s comedy always have to be offensive to be “funny”??

not just “offensive”, but always offensive to those who are most vulnerable to violence….

@ PeeVee the Tired

me, too… so fucking tired

sunnysombrera
sunnysombrera
2 years ago

More “women should stay at home” jokes. But I guarantee that soon enough they’ll return to whining that there aren’t enough women in dangerous heavy labour jobs (“but 99.99999999% of workplace deaths are maaaaale why don’t feminists want equaliteeeeee wah”) even though the small percentage of women who have entered the construction industry report high levels of harassment from their male peers. Source: https://nwlc.org/press-releases/women-make-only-2-6-percent-construction-workers-and-experience-high-levels-sexual-harassment-new-report-shows/

Shadowplay
2 years ago

Picked up the Evening Standard when I went to collect my partner (they give it away free at the tube station).

Sure enough – a “former friend” has trotted out the “she was mentally disturbed, very angry always” thing in the article.

It’s like clockwork.

Edit: A key is sticking.

Handsome :Punkle Stan: Jack

The shooter obviously needs help and I hope she does get it

Good at no one died, nothing to joke about.

She fucking killed herself.

Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie
2 years ago

Offfffff-topic… way off-topic…

Read this piece on 5 diners in the south with strong ties to civil rights. One, of course, is the Woolworth’s on 5th Street in Nashville, site of sit-ins. The others are diners which ignored Jim Crow, which civil rights organizers dined and organized at, others had side/upstairs offices where planning and organization took place.

here is the Mitochondrial Eve of lunch counter sit-ins, Dockum Drugs, Wichita, Kansas, July, 19 – August, 11, 1958
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Carol Parks-Haun, 3rd from right

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
2 years ago

@ AJ from GA

Ah, thanks for that. Makes a lot more sense now,

Katamount
Katamount
2 years ago

@Weird Eddie

again, why does these people’s comedy always have to be offensive to be “funny”??

not just “offensive”, but always offensive to those who are most vulnerable to violence….

I have some theories on that. For one, the current crop of people coming of age were raised during the era of South Park, Family Guy and Zombie Simpsons as the mainstays of animated comedy, where everyone and everything is considered “fair game”. For another, the internet has only become more commodified and reactionary since its inception.

It is strange to think about, but when I was 12 and South Park was brand new, it was the “adult” show. Shown late on cable, freaked out the elders. It certainly made Comedy Central’s bones in the early years. But at the time, it was one show; we still had sitcoms like Friends, Seinfeld and good Simpsons where we could find a softer touch and a little heart. But with South Park‘s success, everyone began imitating them. Adult Swim was rife with South Park-like shows and that’s what a lot of teens found their comedy footing on.

As for the Internet, we’ve gone from the days of AOL Instant Messenger on dial-up to Netflix and YouTube. When I was a kid, going on SomethingAwful or Maddox felt edgy when all TV had was Seinfeld. But now you can customize your entire Internet experience to the point that you get nothing but Maddox 24/7. And if that’s what makes you laugh, the customer is always right.

Kinda scary now that I think about that.

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